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https://www.theverge.com/2019/4/18/18311287/ai-upscaling-algorithms-video-games-mods-modding-esrgan-gigapixel?utm_source=pocket-newtab

Just saw this on my Pocket. Looks interesting.

>> No.5527384

>>5527380
They should change that headline into "ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE IS HELPING OLD VIDEO GAMES LOOK LIKE SHIT"

Seriously, people think this looks good?

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>>5527380
>No visible pixels means it looks better
It's fucking surreal

>> No.5527416

>>5527404
Pixels are infinitesimal points samples. It's somewhat arbitrary to render them as squares. They didn't display as squares on the shadow mask CRTs most PC users had in the 90s.

>> No.5527435

>>5527380
Not sure how to feel about the AI upscale meme right now. Maybe it just needs more development and time.

>> No.5527698

>>5527380
I think in some cases, it could be useful, but most people just don't fucking post-process this shit manually, and leave it as it just came out, and it ends up looking kinda bad.

>>5527416
True, but I don't care about that, and I genuinely think crystal clear pixels looks better than fuzzy smears on a glass screen.
>inb4 angry tube fetishists

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>>5527380
I love these so much. I look forward to the day we have the insane processing power that shit like this is a filter option in emulators. I want to go through all my old favorites like that.

>> No.5527723

>>5527713
It's effectively a filter process for what it's worth, and without some kind of human touch to clean the frames up and correct errors, you would actually not get a very good looking game.

Essentially someone would have to go through all the assets of the game and use this process on them, then make sure to finish them with manual work afterwards.

>> No.5527726

>>5527723
Ohh I know, but it's too processor intensive to apply to games in real time now. But it's probably not that far off really.

>> No.5527745

>>5527726
Right, but even with enough processing power to run it as a realtime filter for a game, it wouldn't look quite right on its own, you'd get weird distortions and misinterpreted details.

A lot of people think of the AI thing as a shortcut, and it is, but not all the way to the finish line.

>> No.5527747

>>5527384
Ah, the contrarian is RIGHT ON TIME. First post buddy, good job!

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>>5527745
Well that depends what you think is "quite right". I already play with sharp pixels because it's what I prefer but there's a large number of people who think it looks not right at all. I would expect some graphical weirdness, especially in motion. It already looks like a weird glitchy painting, I'm all over seeing what it looks like as a weird glitchy moving painting.

I'm one of the only people I know whp unironically liked that super eagle filter or whatever it was called in snes9x. I played through most of SD3 with that turned on.

>> No.5527769

>>5527723
We already knew that.
Thanks for wasting your time and embarrassing yourself.
PS. it looks like fucking dogshit.

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>>5527380
>actually using Pocket

>> No.5527793

>>5527776

/r/braincels

>> No.5527805

>>5527380
it's good in some cases, in others it's not. It still takes a lot of work, you need to "guide" the AI into not doing stupid shit.
Still a neat concept that can help zoomers become interested in some jewels from the past.

>> No.5527813

>>5527380
yes, this is old. like a year old? i have multiple games that have already had this process done to them. get with 2018.

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>>5527776
>tfw not knowing what a Pocket is

>> No.5527839

>>5527820
I still use my Digimon as a keychain, ironically. Has no batteries or cover, because mom never had the right screwdrivers for things. I could ask my brother to print a new one.

>> No.5527840 [DELETED] 

>>5527380
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0088127/

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>> No.5529556

>>5529448
>using the refuted meme
/v/ is over there

>> No.5529562

>>5529448
>cat memes
Hello 9gag and Encyclopedia dramatica

>> No.5530036

>>5527698
>I genuinely think crystal clear pixels looks better than fuzzy smears on a glass screen.
It depends how it works in the context of the bigger image. There's a reason some people love Monet's art and others love 16th Dutch realist art, there is a time when a less clear image tells more of a story and there is a time when it hinders the image. It depends on the art design and intentions behind it.

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>>5529556
Then why don't you show that refutation?

>>5529562
Grafics Cat is timeless.

>> No.5530056

>>5530052
ENBs are cute :3

>> No.5530058

>>5527380
Someone already made a thread about this showing its results with pre-rendered ps1 cutscenes from Klonoa