/vr/ core

[Anonymous No.5522312]

I like lists so I made this. What do you think, anon? Do you think it's unnecessary? There's obviously a lot of room for growth. Are the picks too obvious? What games do you think should be added / removed? Discuss.

[Anonymous No.5522337]

>>5522312
I would add final fantasy 7 and sotn. Pretty solid. Anything else is as relevant as a pager

[Anonymous No.5522339]

Klonoa, Sotn and Policenauts should be removed.
Super Metroid is already there, we don't need third rate low quality ripoffs, and as much as I enjoy Kojima's works, I'd hardly call Policenauts a must play. If you're gonna put a Mario game, go with 3 or SMW instead of RPG.

[Anonymous No.5522347]

It's kinda like someone just took the most oft-discussed games without a semblance of taste or preference.

[Anonymous No.5522351]

>>5522347
Isn’t that kind of the point? It’s the games that are supposed to represent a community as a whole, that should be experienced by all so that they are on the same page. It is not meant to be representative of an individual’s taste or preference

[Anonymous No.5522357]

It looks to me like an obvious list. Besides, nobody is going to agree on what is vr core. Maybe you should make a compilation of games with a different subject, one that is harder to find, some ideas:
- Good looking 2D/3D.
- Multiplayers.
- Point & Click / Visual novels.
- Short duration.
- Hard / Easy games.
- Most hated games from most overrated series.

I can't remember any list with any of these subjects.

[Anonymous No.5522382]

>>5522357
>nobody is going to agree on what is vr core
There is no /vr/ core.There are already solid lists showing the notable titles on each system and plenty of discussion on more obscure games.
The best way to find more retro games is work through the exclusives of a console you never have played or try some untranslated games on a console you are familiar with.
There are far more pre 2000 video games that I want to finish or 1CC than I could in one lifetime

[Anonymous No.5522397]

This is really cringe

[Anonymous No.5522408]

ITT: People who don't know what "-core" means.
I agree with >>5522339 about replacing SMRPG with either 3 or SMW, not about removing the other three though.

[Anonymous No.5522438]

>>5522312
King of Monsters 2

[Anonymous No.5522440]

>>5522312
>> List almost all 6th gen

Not really sport

[Anonymous No.5522452]

>>5522408
I mean there are some games that are beyond obvious. If you look at /mu/ core there's no Pink Floyd or Radiohead. Do we really need to tell people that "Hey, Super Mario Bros 3 is a good game!"

[Anonymous No.5522454]

>Rondo of Blood
>DKC 2
>Fighting Vipers 2
>Magician Lord
>Tetris Attack
>Last Blade 2
>SamSho 2
>Metal Slug X
>Contra: Shattered Soldier
>Mars Matrix
>Cannon Spike
>Zombie Revenge
>Captain Commando
>Devils Crush
>Bushido Blade
>Darkstalkers 3
>No One Can Stop Mr. Domino
>Pepsiman
>Incredible Crisis
>Jet Grind Radio
>Fatal Fury: MOTW

[Anonymous No.5522464]

>>5522312
>SOTN
I love that game but so many people here seem to hate on it a lot.

[Anonymous No.5522471]

>>5522464
The castlevania fans here are extremely autsitic. You can only consider CV1 and CV3 the only good ones.

[Anonymous No.5522474]

>>5522464
>>5522471
Castlevania sucks.

[Anonymous No.5522478]

>>5522474
You suck.

[Anonymous No.5522479]

>>5522464
That's because the game is popular. See, in order to fit in 4chan you need to be a contrarian, and thus, if a game is popular you should call it shit.

[Anonymous No.5522480]

>>5522471
And Rondo

[Anonymous No.5522482]

>>5522464
No one other than bandwagon simpletons can like a below average game that killed a great franchise.
And once they come to /vr/ fellating this game, they expect everyone else to join the jerkoff session. You won't be getting it here, kiddo.

[Anonymous No.5522484]

>>5522312
Dump SotN, Nights, Xenogears, snatcher, Policenauts, Klonoa, Goemon, Guardian Heroes, and Radiant Silvergun and I’d say you have a pretty good list.

[Anonymous No.5522485]

>>5522479
That's not really it. The issue is SotN killing off Classicvania which is a fair criticism. It's still an all time classic game though, just not what long time CV fans wanted.

[Anonymous No.5522486]

how about super mario 3

[Anonymous No.5522487]

>>5522484

[Anonymous No.5522489]

>>5522312
>Xenogears
>Policenauts

Nice sleep-inducers...

[Anonymous No.5522491]

>>5522487
can you go back to /v/, please?

[Anonymous No.5522496]

>>5522491
I could say the same about you. Better yet, go back to Nintendo forums.

[Anonymous No.5522501]

>>5522496
But I like all retro games and I don't post shit memes made by 14 year olds.

[Anonymous No.5522504]

>>5522482
>bandwagon simpletons
Sorry but what if I bought the game without knowing anything about it at the time and enjoyed it? Am I still hopping on a bandwagon for liking it? Call me a simpleton, fine but this has nothing to do with other people liking the game therefore I must also like it.

[Anonymous No.5522520]

>>5522504
How, as a gamer, did you not know about Castlevania in 1997?

[Anonymous No.5522527]

>>5522520
I knew what Castlevania was, and had played Castlevania before, but I didn't know what I was getting into with SOTN.

[Anonymous No.5522539]

>>5522527
I see. I think that was how most people felt at the time; that it wasn't like the older games but it was still fucking amazing. But even back then there were a lot of people who wanted and expected the punishing gameplay of the previous CVs.

[Anonymous No.5522549]

>>5522539
Castlevania was too hard for me as a kid. I never got into the series until SOTN released in my teens. I have gone back and played the classic games recently and I like them a lot, but I imagine a lot of people shared my experience.

[Anonymous No.5522552]

>>5522539
>expected the punishing gameplay of the previous CVs.
I'll have to say, this might make me sound like an ultra pleb but when I first played this game, I wasn't that great at it. I thought the clocktower area with the harpies was hard as balls, and even late game I never knew about any of the awesome armor and weapons like Dracula's tunic(though Walking Armor is good enough) and Crissaegrim or the Alucard shield plus shield combo because I didn't know that was a thing too. The inverted Castle kicked my ass the first time too and Galamoth gave me tons of trouble. The game is a cake walk for me now but back then it was hard enough for me.

[Anonymous No.5522554]

I wanna see one of these for the dreamcasts. I miss those graphs

[Anonymous No.5522557]

>>5522312
All of those games accept for LoZ OoT are Literal What: The Game. Ammirite?? Lel

[Anonymous No.5522560]

Sotn should be banned on /vr/.

[Anonymous No.5522571]

>>5522560
No

[Anonymous No.5522582]

>>5522557
On a Scale of 'Yes" to "ULTRAYES" how fuckin much is this genius Anon ammirite :D??

[Anonymous No.5522586]

>>5522582
What?

[Anonymous No.5522650]

>>5522312
Why would you put the PS SOTN there instead of the Saturn one?

[Anonymous No.5522662]

ver 1.1
>removed policenauts
>added mario 3
>added ff7
>added dkc2
>added metal slug x
>added rondo

[Anonymous No.5522672]

>>5522312
>only console games

[Anonymous No.5522675]

>>5522672
alright anon, whataya suggest?

[Anonymous No.5522721]

>>5522662
Remove fucking Xenogears, it's an absolute trash piece of shit game.

Even fucking Chrono Trigger deserves more to be called core than that garbage fuck.

[Anonymous No.5522723]

>>5522452
>If you look at /mu/ core there's no Pink Floyd or Radiohead
Have you looked at the most passed around /mu/core chart?
>>5522347
literally the point

[Anonymous No.5522737]

When I think about making these charts or looking at others, it really hits me how dry of a well video games are. There's so little good shit out there and barely any room for having interesting taste without just claiming to like obvious trash and our likes are so homogenous even compared to /mu/ or /tv/. I know it's a young medium and for people who exclusively stick to /vr/ shit (not me, though my taste does skew older) it's even more limited but jesus christ. le gem is a meme because there aren't actually gems out there. Everything good has been found, there's no equivalent to finding an album that 5 people have heard and having it blow your mind. This shit's depressing.

[Anonymous No.5522742]

>>5522312
>Do you think it's unnecessary?
>Are the picks too obvious?
Yes

[Anonymous No.5522745]

>>5522312
Diablo and Doom seem to pretty often discussed here.

[Anonymous No.5522747]

>>5522721
Seconded. Replace it with a fucking fighting game. Why isn't Street Fighter on there?

[Anonymous No.5522749]

>>5522721
Keep crying bitch nigga. Xenogears is awesome and core as fuck.

[Anonymous No.5522779]

>>5522312
For me:
Gauntlet IV (MD)
Hagane (sfc)
Dune 2 (DOS)
Virtua Fighter 3 (Arcade)
Worms Armageddon (PC)
Windjammers (Neo Geo)
Power Stone (DC)

[Anonymous No.5522782]

>>5522312
is this a list for the best of the best or just games that get talked a lot on /vr/

[Anonymous No.5522792]

>>5522312
Either this or Tactics Ogre

[Anonymous No.5522834]

>>5522782
talked a lot

[Anonymous No.5522838]

>>5522721
>>5522782
The point isn't necessarily to showcase the greatest games, but the ones that are often discussed on the board so that one can experience them on their own and craft their own opinions

[Anonymous No.5522848]

Do we have a consensus on a /vr/ mascot?

[Anonymous No.5522858]

>>5522848
A fat angry 40 year old neckbear

[Anonymous No.5522865]

>>5522834
>>5522838
I see, then obviously add 90s fps like doom, quake, duke nukem and half life
>>5522848
/vr/-tan is good enough

[Anonymous No.5522879]

>>5522312
VR brainlets aways pushing their shit RPG Taste. Xenogears has an retard battling system, done 1000x better in VALKYRIE PROFILE, a RPG better in EVERY SPEC. Story wise is cringe af, you can have way more meaningful "philosofy" in games like FF Tactics and Chrono Cross

[Anonymous No.5522881]

>>5522312
Throw out the Kojimbo and Treasure shit, (and SoTN

[Anonymous No.5522887]

>>5522848
/vr/-tan is the best board tan out of them all.

He looks and acts like a bro and probably gets along with all the other boards.

[Anonymous No.5522954]

>>5522745
pc /vr/ and console /vr/ are basically two completely separate boards that barely acknowledge one another's existence.
There are constant or almost constant threads about build engine, Doom, Unreal, Quake, Diablo, Infinity engine, Might and Magic, Ultima and a bunch of other, yet none of these games are mentioned here.

For my part I haven't touched a controller since I was 6 or 7 and I haven't played any of the games discussed ITT, now call me a zoomer and give me (you)s, console kiddies.

[Anonymous No.5523135]

wtf, where's super mario and sanic

[Anonymous No.5523146]

>>5523135
>>5522662
I'll prolly add Sonic 2

[Anonymous No.5523148]

>>5523146
>not Sonic 1

[Anonymous No.5523150]

>>5523148
Dude stfu already.

[Anonymous No.5523152]

>>5523150
Sonic 1 best Sonic

[Anonymous No.5523153]

Since I can't seem to find a fine line between choices that are too obvious as well deeper picks, I might make a core section with more obvious essential shit as well as a "hidden gem" section. What would you guys like to see?

[Anonymous No.5523158]

>>5523150
COPE

[Anonymous No.5523160]

>>5523153
>What would you guys like to see?
Kelsey's feet.

[Anonymous No.5523249]

>>5522312
>zero arcade games
anon....

[Anonymous No.5523253]

>>5523249
RSG

[Anonymous No.5523257]

>>5522662
dkc 1 is objectively better than dkc 2

[Anonymous No.5523272]

>>5523249
all of you faggots need to stop telling me that games are missing with no suggestions

[Anonymous No.5523292]

>>5522312
Decent chart but I wouldn't call it core, it's too 5th gen focused.

[Anonymous No.5523362]

Alright. 8-16 games will be placed into the core. What are they?

[Anonymous No.5523380]

You forgot DUAL ORB II
it has MONSTER TRUCKS and SNIPER RIFLES!

[Anonymous No.5523438]

>>5522454
>Incredible Crisis
Based.

[Anonymous No.5523447]

>>5523160
You need to watch the beach episode.

[Anonymous No.5523450]

Add Quake and Starcraft

[Anonymous No.5523451]

Not enough JRPG's desu

[Anonymous No.5523454]

>>5523450
Ahhh yeah the games /vr/ likes to claim to love for cred while hardly ever actually playing

[Anonymous No.5523462]

>>5523454
I played Quake III, Starcraft, and Counter-Strike for 5 years straight 7 days a week.
I'm quite burned out.

[Anonymous No.5523492]

>>5523454
Not him but I always thought Quake was a shit version of Doom and Duke. 3D was ugly and muddy, everything was just grey-and-brown, and it lacked any personality whatsoever.

But that's just an opinion!!!

[Anonymous No.5523527]

>>5523492
Only if you think personality means goofy cartoony characters and one liners then yes Quake lacks personality. It's not about that though it has a more serious dark sci-fi tone and it does that very well, the sound design alone is some of the best at the time and still holds up excellently, it creates a very dark spooky surreal atmosphere, and the gameplay, enemy and level design are fantastic and multiplayer is still fun as hell. I'd say the worst thing about the original Quake is how crappy most of the guns feel but once you get past that it's a blast to play, it's so movement heavy with quick weapon switching being incentivized and the levels flow wonderfully.

[Anonymous No.5523679]

>>5523362
Childish console shit

[Anonymous No.5523702]

>>5522662
>only nintendo and weeb shit

fucking zoomer

[Anonymous No.5523703]

>>5522312
>Ocarina of time

fuck off back to plebbit

[Anonymous No.5523709]

>>5522312
Replace Nights with Chrono Trigger and I can live with it.

[Anonymous No.5523712]

kings field, daggerfall, H.E.R.O should probably be on there

[Anonymous No.5523721]

>>5523703
>>5522408

[Anonymous No.5523728]

>>5522312
Replace OoT with Link's Awakening.

[Anonymous No.5523734]

>>5522339
Metal Gear Solid 1 is retro, no? I think that's a must play if we're talking core /vr/

[Anonymous No.5523774]

>>5522723
>Neutral Milk Hotel
>Top corner at that
Damn it.

[Anonymous No.5523896]

>>5522312
based /jarpig/

[Anonymous No.5523924]

>/vr/ core
>no Wario games
You're doing it wrong. VB Wario is literally /ourgame/. The best thing about it is that normies don't even know it exists.

[Anonymous No.5523954]

>>5523679
>video games
>childish
No shit

[Anonymous No.5523959]

>>5523954
Why are you here then?

[Anonymous No.5524017]

>>5522662
>>5522675
DOOM, System Shock, Betrayal at Krondor, Diablo 1, Duke Nukem 3D, Quake, Fallout, Baldur's Gate 1, Blood, Half-Life, Thief: The Dark Project, Warcraft II: Tides of Darkness, Heroes of Might & Magic 3

>>5522737
Agreed

[Anonymous No.5524032]

>>5523896
>only 2 actual Japanese RPGs on the list
What did he mean by this?

[Anonymous No.5524035]

>>5522312
Sotn should be saturn version

[Anonymous No.5524040]

>>5524035
The Castlevania entry should be either III, Rondo or IV.

[Anonymous No.5524041]

>>5524032
>rpgish action-adventure
>action-adventure rpg
>nights
>rpgish action-adventure
>jrpg
>jrpg
>visual novel / adventure (more narrative game like rpgs)
>visual novel / adventure (same)
>klonoa
>rpgish action-adventure
>bmup with rpg elements
>one of the only shmups where you can grind for future attempts (saturn mode) like in an rpg
You tell me

[Anonymous No.5524043]

>>5524041
Yeah, hence why I used "actual", there's only 2 Japanese RPGs there, the rest are as "role playing" as Doom is (you can "grind" for ammo on Doom, it's so jarpig dude)

[Anonymous No.5524048]

>>5524043
And it's /jarpig/ because it's all either rpgs or games close to those games design-wise (more narrative / exploration focused, sometimes with possible grinding)
It almost completely lacks games that don't connect to rpgs design-wise. Other genres picked have the closest to rpgs in their own genre.

[Anonymous No.5524051]

>>5524048
okay

[Anonymous No.5524078]

>>5522454
Literally none of those games are retro core. MOTW is God tier tho.

[Anonymous No.5524080]

>>5524078
MOTW isn't as good as FF Special or Real Bout Special

[Anonymous No.5524082]

>>5522482
Anyone that thinks the old castlevania model is better than the metroidvania renaissance is objectively incorrect. :^)

[Anonymous No.5524085]

>>5524082

[Anonymous No.5524210]

>>5522312
I like lists so I made this. What do you think, anon? Do you think it's unnecessary? There's obviously a lot of room for growth. Are the picks too obvious? What games do you think should be added / removed? Discuss.

[Anonymous No.5524243]

>>5524210

[Anonymous No.5524287]

Nights into dreams is mediocre.

[Anonymous No.5524296]

>>5524287
(You) are mediocre

[Anonymous No.5524316]

>>5522312
a whole lot of boring weeb shit apart from metroid and ocarina. none of those other games drew dimes.

[Anonymous No.5524318]

>>5524287
The Wii game is better, but their blind nostalgia will never allow them to admit that.

[Anonymous No.5524328]

>NiGHTS
Barely anyone outside Japan has owned let alone played Sega Saturn.
>Xenogears
Which is not nearly as mainstream as OP seems to think. Bear in mind that Square churned out a plethora of RPGs during the fourth and fifth generations. Even something as niche as SaGa is probably more often discussed than Xenogears.
>Snatcher and Policenauts
Adventure games are too niche. /vr/ rarely discusses the genre as a whole. If you were just trying to be genre-inclusive here, then how about adding some sports titles to the list?
>Klonoa
Why? There are far better platformers with much better and more diversified content. Why not Spyro or Kirby Super Star?
>Goemon
No one cared about this series outside of Japan.
>Guardian Heroes
More fodder from a platform that /vr/ rarely discusses. Most of the time when Saturn comes up, it's Daytona threads.
>Radiant Silvergun
There are better shmups, and the popularity of vertical bullet hells is more of a recent phenomenon, certainly not one I would ascribe to the retro community. What ever happened to Gradius and R-Type? Those are the games older millennials grew up with.

[Anonymous No.5524336]

>lost game that literally was found by /vr/
>not /vr/core
Come on

[Anonymous No.5524347]

>>5524336
Either this or Chu-Teng needs to be here.

[Anonymous No.5524371]

>>5523959
Because childish things are fun by design you fucking idiot. Lol

[Anonymous No.5524398]

>>5524371
You BTFO of the other Anon, just sayin.

[Anonymous No.5524407]

>>5524398
I know faggot, I know.

[Anonymous No.5524426]

Stop arguing and add NFL Blitz to the list already.

[Anonymous No.5524427]

>>5522312
Camcerous generalized charts like this only stifle discussion and are generally made by posturing faggots who think have a pulse on a hobby they barely engage in. Charts are only useful for guides on how to set shit up (i.e. emulators or modding hardware) or getting into a long running niche franchise or games made by a specific developer (i.e. Ys, or any other Falcom series). Kill yourself
>>5524328
Underage detected
>Xenogears
>Which is not nearly as mainstream
JRPG and Square fags were in an uproar when it looked like the game's religious thems would prevent it from getting a western release. No one outside of autists who played Final Fantasy Legend games gave a shit about Saga Frontier.
>Goemon
>nearly every single game got released in English
>no one outside of Japan cared about it
Kill yourself after OP.

[Anonymous No.5524436]

I take that back. NFL Blitz 2000. thats the best version.

[Anonymous No.5524496]

>>5524427
>>nearly every single game got released in English
Nigger what? There were only 3 english releases not counting a shitty gameboy game, and the other 15+ fucking games stayed in Japan.

[Anonymous No.5524514]

>>5522662
It's bad enough OOT is on your list, but why do you have to add Final Fantshitty 7?

[Anonymous No.5524843]

>>5524514
because they are video games that are talked about on this board

[Anonymous No.5525297]

>>5522954
Thanks for saying this

[Anonymous No.5525329]

>>5525297
Arcade chads are yet another separated group, even if the smallest

[Anonymous No.5525338]

>>5522312
The entire list is just YOUR taste. It's nowhere close to being a list of essentials.

[Anonymous No.5525347]

>>5525338
read the thread idiot

[Anonymous No.5525584]

>>5525329
Arcade Chad?
As in Chad and Stacy?
Why does my age make me a Chad?

[Anonymous No.5525773]

>>5522485
>implying people that hate sotn were fans of the original castlevania and not just underaged contrarians

[Anonymous No.5525803]

>>5524336
who ever wrote this list has probably been here for a couple of months. true /vr/ core would have way more weirder shit like this and eastern mind

[Anonymous No.5525872]

>>5522662
>weeb console shit
the absolute state

[Anonymous No.5525878]

>>5525872
>weeb
The only VN-ish game there is Snatcher, which is normie as fuck.
Real weeb chart would be full of PC Engine and Saturn VNs.

[Anonymous No.5525936]

I feel like every /vr/ poster's favorite final fantasy game is tactics so why not add that

[Anonymous No.5525939]

>>5525878
I am a simple man, I see a bunch of games developped in japan for jap consoles, I label everything as weeb console shit. Don't really care about it much more than that, it's not the /vr/ I browse anyway ; it just hadn't really dawned on me that the majority of this board actually almost exclusively play this shit.

[Anonymous No.5525945]

>>5525939
Yeah you've got your shit wrong.If you think playing Sega, Nintendo or Playstation is "weeb", then welcome to Weeb World.

[Anonymous No.5525952]

>>5525939
Yeah, we prefer good games. If you have a problem there's a Doom thread or you can go back to /v/.

[Anonymous No.5525957]

Dk 94 for Gameboy is essential

[Anonymous No.5525989]

I would add...

Kirby's Adventure for NES
Super Mario World for SNES
Chrono Trigger for SNES
Final Fantasy VI for SNES
Super Mario 64 for N64
Goldeneye for N64
Super Smash Bros. for N64
FFIX for PS1

Also for PC...

Baldur's Gate 1 & 2
Diablo 2
Warcraft 2
Doom 1 & 2
Quake 1 (only Quake I acknowledge)
ZZT

[Anonymous No.5526005]

Oh and I will add for Game Boy and Game Boy Advance...

Link's Awakening, Oracle of Seasons, and Oracle of Ages
Pokemon Gold
Fire Emblem

[Anonymous No.5526017]

>>5525952
Why don't you go fuck yourself instead?

[Anonymous No.5526285]

>>5522312
Yu-no

[Anonymous No.5526337]

>>5525939
>я чeлoвeк пpocтoй
Зaбepи cвoи пидopaшьи мeмчики oбpaтнo.

[Anonymous No.5526626]

>>5526337
English, doc

[Anonymous No.5526821]

>>5526626
He used a russian meme construction

[Anonymous No.5526826]

>>5526821
English, doc

[Anonymous No.5526853]

>>5522838
Well then the OP is utterly retarded as Nights, Policenauts, Super Mario RPG, Goemon, Radiant Silvergun, Klonoa, Snatcher, Guardian Heroes aren't talked nearly as much about as games like Donkey Kong Country, Doom, Zelda 1, Baldur's Gate, etc. There are about hundred games I can think of discussed more frequently here.

[Anonymous No.5526970]

>>5522312
Exceptional list altough I'd add Mario 64 instead of OoT.

[Anonymous No.5527017]

>>5522454
Anon, you have some incredibly respectable tastes and I applaud you.

[Anonymous No.5527023]

>>5526285
The fact this has no replies shows how far this board has fallen.

[Anonymous No.5527031]

>>5526853
There's a Goemon thread up now and it seems there have been fairly consistent Goemon threads for a little while now.

[Anonymous No.5527343]

[Anonymous No.5527461]

>>5527343
it's shit

[Anonymous No.5527493]

>>5522723
The fact Astro-Creep 2000 isn’t on here offends me

[Anonymous No.5527502]

>>5523148
No dude 1992 game better than 1991 game

[Anonymous No.5527503]

>>5527343
>sneakin in fire emblem

[Anonymous No.5527518]

>>5527343
Zoomers aren't even trying anymore with this shitty ass bait

[Anonymous No.5527530]

>>5527518
there is nothing wrong with those games

[Anonymous No.5527558]

>>5523527
What was up with having a boss fight only in the first episode?
Boss fights were a big thing at the time, and even though he was gimmicky, it was interesting.
Then I played the rest of the episodes, and the "boss" fight is a big group of large monsters.
Then I got to the "final boss" and....
Well, you know.
I wonder if given more time, Id could have fleshed things out more and made something more spectacular.
As is, it has great atmosphere and ambiance, for the reasons you state, even if the levels have a disjointed feel.

[Anonymous No.5527595]

>>5527343
updated

[Anonymous No.5527606]

What's even going on in here and what am I supposed to do?

[Anonymous No.5527639]

>>5522662
This is pretty darn close. I would just switch Xenogears with DOOM, definitely needs a retro FPS.

[Anonymous No.5527680]

>>5527595
To whoever is making these, I appreciate the effort. But I'm not sure you can ever satisfy all of the different groups on /vr/

[Anonymous No.5527795]

>>5527530
pokemon is a cash grab shitty ass game meant for the lowest casual denominator. There is nothing good about it.

[Anonymous No.5527803]

>>5527595
what about ultima, gothic, thief, build engine fps, x-com, 4x games like civ/master of orion

There is so much missing.

[Anonymous No.5527825]

Not to mention the lack of strategy and rts games, this list reeks zoomers criclejerking to late 90's franchises

[Anonymous No.5528085]

>>5527795
Maybe it is now, but if you knew the story of Red and Green you'd know it is super soulful as the creator even sold its house at one point in order to keep funding the game. It's not a perfect game indeed it has all of its flaws, but it's far from being a soulless cashgrab.

[Anonymous No.5528090]

>>5527795
This post screams "Incel" though

[Anonymous No.5528092]

>>5528090
>when in doubt, go with "incel"
Pathetic. And doesn't even make sense. Only virgin manchildren play Pokemon, not the other way around.

[Anonymous No.5528110]

>>5527595
>No Ogre Battle
Hmmm...

[Anonymous No.5528189]

Ogre Battle or Tactics Ogre?

[Anonymous No.5528194]

>>5528189
>>5528110
>>5522792

[Anonymous No.5528201]

>>5527595
Still no NFL Blitz 2000 or Tetrisphere sad

[Anonymous No.5528212]

>>5528201
>tetrisphere

[Anonymous No.5528379]

[Anonymous No.5528504]

>>5522337
Sotn is the second game anon

[Anonymous No.5528507]

>>5528379
You need to add VNs like Yu-no or Doukyuusei

[Anonymous No.5528984]

>>5528092
Virgin for sure but virgin doesn't equate necessarily with incel, incel.

[Anonymous No.5528986]

>>5528092
Also
>pokemon is most common denominator casual shit
>lol only wizards play pokemon
Demential. You sure you don't have some brain cancer?

[Anonymous No.5529037]

>>5528986
Anyone with surface interest into adventure/rpgs know how dull and bland pokemon is. The stat system is weak, the skills aren't balanced at all, nor are the pokemons.

I know it's a game meant for kids so i can get over those things and see the appeal of it, mainly regarding the collecting part. I mean, i played it for gameboy and loved it back then. But now that i look back and see how poorly designed it is and how it meant to be a cash grab (with the trading system and different versions gimmick). The game purposely added some features intended to make people buy essentially the same product with little different nuances. That's also why it kept strictly on handheld. The social interaction is just an excuse, the game wants to capitalize hard on that. Sure, regarding design, balance, and straight up flaws the same can be said about games i still like (such as Digimon World, FFT, SShock, Master of Magic), but at least they don't have such gimmicks.

Pokemon is meant to be surface level.

[Anonymous No.5529045]

>>5528986
Anyone with slight interest into adventure/rpgs know how dull and bland pokemon is. The stat system is weak, the skills aren't balanced at all, nor are the pokemons.

I know it's a game meant for kids so i can get over those things and see the appeal of it, mainly regarding the collecting part. I mean, i played it for gameboy and loved it back then. But now that i look back and see how poorly designed it is and how it meant to be a cash grab (with the trading system and different versions gimmick). The game purposely added some features intended to make people buy essentially the same product with little different nuances. That's also why it kept strictly on handheld. The social interaction is just an excuse, the game wants to capitalize hard on that. Sure, regarding design, balance, and straight up flaws the same can be said about games i still like (such as HOMM, Digimon World, FFT, SShock, Master of Magic), but at least they don't have such gimmicks.

Pokemon is meant to be surface level.

[Anonymous No.5529048]

Anyone with slight interest into adventure/rpgs know how dull and bland pokemon is. The stat system is weak, the skills aren't balanced at all, nor are the pokemons.

I know it's a game meant for kids so i can get over those things and see the appeal of it, mainly regarding the collecting part. I mean, i played it for gameboy and loved it back then. But now that i look back and see how poorly designed it is and how it is meant to be a cash grab (with the trading system and different versions gimmick). The game purposely added some features intended to make people buy essentially the same product with little different nuances. That's also why it kept strictly on handheld. The social interaction is just an excuse, the game wants to capitalize hard on that. Sure, regarding design, balance, and straight up flaws the same can be said about games i still like (such as HOMM, Digimon World, FFT, SShock, Master of Magic), but at least they don't have such gimmicks.

Pokemon is meant to be surface level.

[Anonymous No.5529093]

>>5522312
>go to /vr/
>someone praises SotN
>thread explodes into threats, butthurt and unresolved conflict

everytime with you guys.

[Anonymous No.5529209]

>>5529048
>Pokemon is meant to be surface level.
Yes, and?
>the exclusive gimmick
That incentivated trades, not buying the same game twice. You needed 2 gameboys to trade abyway so why bother buying another copy? If you don't understand how much they wanted to make trade one of the core focus of the game you didn't understand Tajiri's vision.
>the stat system
It's fine, it's the battle system that's dull as fuck despite it's "competitive" dephts, like the type system which is kinda complex compared to othet jrpgs
>the pokemon aren't balanced
And we are talking about it as a competitive game or as an RPG? There's no RPG in the face of this planet with all characters Balanced, let alone one with over 150. And why should it be? I don't think a Pidgey has the right to be balanced as a Dragonite.
>the skills
Same as above, altough I don't think it is even so. Most of gen 1 level up learnsets are horrible, that's due a precise design choice: they wanted you to make a pokemon strong through technical machines, "work hard" for getting one strong mon.

[Anonymous No.5529365]

>>5522312
>not a single 3rd gen, PC Engine, or Dreamcast game in that lineup
>2 adventure games from same series
>0 fighting games without even SSB
Into the trash it goes.

Try this instead. It's still full of holes, but has a broader era and platform spread:

>Mega Man 2
>Metal Gear 1 or 2
>Tetris
>R-Type
>Rondo of Blood
>Super Mario World
>Super Metroid
>Chrono Trigger
>SNATCHER
>Sonic CD
>Metal Slug
>NIGHTS
>Street Fighter Zero/Alpha 3
>Final Fantasy 7 or 9
>Ocarina of Time
>Jet Set/Grind Radio

[Anonymous No.5529406]

>>5529209
it's a cash grab. the game is a big fat ad, the pokemons are the adds.

[Anonymous No.5529408]

>>5529209
it's a cash grab. the game is a big fat ad, the pokemons are ads. WAKE UP SHEEPLE

[Anonymous No.5529437]

>>5529408
this so much, it's all a giant jew conspiracy made to destroy the WEST. GAME FREAK hates America, hates the children, they HATES GOD, THEY HATES PROSPERITY.

[Anonymous No.5529452]

Shit thread, Shit taste, Shit board.

[Anonymous No.5529493]

>>5529452
why the fuck are people like you here

[Anonymous No.5530568]

>>5523462
i can relate to this

[Anonymous No.5530650]

>>5528379
I like the idea of this. Some obvious additions I see missing, with less obvious additions like you asked for in the OP coming later if you're still interested in doing this.

>Parasite Eve 1 and 2
Topics on these often get a lot of replies, one of them at least should probably be in core.

>Blood
A notable omission from PC.

>Thief
Another PC omission.

>Ogre Battle
There have been multiple calls for this game in this topic, I think thats proof enough.

Also, looking at that /mu/ list I think you should make a classics section, and move things like OOT and SMB3 to it, and Garage should probably be moved to core considering it's history with this board.

[Anonymous No.5530676]

>>5530650
>Also, looking at that /mu/ list I think you should make a classics section, and move things like OOT and SMB3 to it, and Garage should probably be moved to core considering it's history with this board.
good call, i'm currently working on add a bunch of categories and i'll try and figure this out.

[Anonymous No.5530712]

Sad. Shit like Mario, Zelda, FF7 are so basic yet they're "l33t /vr/ core!!11" what a bunch of faggots

[Anonymous No.5530718]

seething

[Anonymous No.5530753]

>>5529437
game freak is just a shitty developer desu senpai

[Anonymous No.5530756]

>>5529452
based, redpilled. Console weebs need to go

[Anonymous No.5531129]

>>5530650
Part 2

Less obvious additions:
These are more "niche" games that I've seen mentioned enough on /vr/ to be notable.

This is by no means comprehensive but should add a more distinct feel to the list so it's not just well known games or a generic greatest games list.

>Umihara Kawase and Shun
/vr/ actually made me aware of these games, used to be talked about more but still shows up every so often, one of these should probably be in core.

>Bulk Slash
Generally very highly regarded, also pops up in gifs a lot.

>Digimon World (not 2 or 3)
May seem like a strange addition but topics on this seem to get a fair number of replies, generally agreed to be the best PS1 Digimon game.

>Ecstatica
Bizzare looking horror game with comedy elements, mentioned enough to be notable.

>Hellnight
Another game I learned of here, mentioned enough in replies to be notable.

>Linda Cube
Cult classic game that never left Japan,
fairly well regarded, pops up relatively frequently, often in hopes of it being translated.

[Anonymous No.5531135]

haven't played any of those except SotN for 10 minutes, should probably go back to /lit/

[Anonymous No.5531141]

>>5531129
Part 3

>Dark Savior
Has a decently sized fanbase here. I remember someone in one of the topics joking about "the annual Dark Savior thread", there was even an effort to translate the Japanese sound novel by an anon that fizzled out after two or three entries.

>Baroque
Often recommended for it's highly oppressive atmosphere, generally preferred to the remake for this reason.

>Gomola Speed
Another game that I had no idea existed until I saw it mentioned in a reply here, I've seen it mentioned in replies multiple times over the years.

>Kaze no Notam
Not really my thing but I've seen it mentioned repeatedly enough I think it should be on the list, no idea what you'd classify it as though.

>LSD: Dream Emulator
Same situation as Kaze no Notam.

[Anonymous No.5531478]

some fucker whose first console was probably the dreamcast is going to tell me the 3 16-bit games and 0 8-bit games that are essential.

fuck off.

[Anonymous No.5531497]

>>5528379
It's fucking worse every time, just stop this travesty already, /vr/ doesn't need even more braindead conformism than it already has for fuck's sake

[Anonymous No.5531927]

>>5522312
Shit list. Pnly good games are super metroid and radiant silvergun

[Anonymous No.5531941]

MUH OBSCURE GAMES

[Anonymous No.5532000]

This is more reddit core than vr core.

Castlevania Bloodlines, Oracle of Seasons, Banjo Kazooie, and Links Awakening are vr core.

[Anonymous No.5532005]

The games i like are /vr/ core

[Anonymous No.5532476]

>>5525939
>Im a drone spewing memes and buzzwords I barely understand with no care for honest dialogue and proud of it

youre the cancer that killed 4chan

[Anonymous No.5532517]

>>5522397
You have nothing of value to add for /vr/, not to mention this thread.

[Anonymous No.5532537]

>>5522858
The same like /g/, ok.

[Anonymous No.5532548]

>>5523454
This baiting attempt. So unnecessary that it made me kek.

[Anonymous No.5532581]

>>5531497
Driving cancerous faggots like you out is reason enough for promoting these charts.

[Anonymous No.5533114]

>>5522312
depends really i think x-core lists are usually pretty pretentious and full of games people really only pretend to like a real /vr/ core list is going to be full of cult classics with no real fanbase as anything too good/popular such as doom and super mario bros 3 aren't going to be /vr/ core despite being universally loved you will put games like system shock, alpha centauri and xcom above actually fun games because again they are cult classics and im unique and special and again again anything too popular really doesn't need to be mentioned so really these lists are necessary since we all know what games are actually good or not and these lists aren't going to be full of games people DONT know about because nobody knows those games its got to be about the middle ground the almost fun the almost good maybe the almost successful but there isn't a reason to follow these sorts of lists because you can easily find a list of good games with a quick google search of "your favorite genre" and decide for yourself by earning a respect for said games in said genre and developing an opinion not biased by hiveminded acceptance of anything with a billion variables and endless replayability as if you didn't have enough games to satisfy your need for a unique experience every time you opened a game why not just play something else.

[Anonymous No.5533128]

>>5532581
it actually does the opposite, it will only attract cancer from /v/

[Anonymous No.5533130]

>>5522312
80/100

[Anonymous No.5533131]

charts are cancer

[Anonymous No.5533332]

>>5533114
That /mu/ list someone posted above had a classics section entirely devoted to listing foundational works that nearly everyone can agree are good.

Now obviously this is a board exclusively for older games and they're a board that can cover a much broader swathe of their medium, but there's no reason this chart also couldn't have a classics section for listing more well known foundational games that are nearly universally agreed to be good.

The core section then would be games that /vr/ particularly thinks are good, or talks about frequently, or has a notable history with. Under this rationale something like Doom would fit perfectly in core considering the long running generals.

Also, I have to disagree about your stance on cult classics, if you didn't like modern games and continued to play older games you hadn't played before eventually you'd start delving into more niche games and wanting to talk about them and let others know about them. People like the ones you mentioned do exist of course, but you shouldn't dismiss games you might like because of them.

Besides that 2.0 version didn't even really have that problem you mentioned, the arrangement of some of the games was strange but it had fairly well known games spread out throughout the categories even in core.

[Anonymous No.5533494]

>>5533114
>>5533332
Can we stop pretending that /vr/ is dedicated to only appreciating obscure games? At any given time we have at minimum a few threads focusing on super popular retro titles including:

-a Doom thread
-A "Build Engine" general
-Maybe a separate thread on a specific Build game. Today Blood is our lucky winner, but sometimes we get Duke, and almost never Shadow Warrior
-A Dragon Quest thread
-An Earthbound or Mother general thread
-An "I just beat Super Metroid/Symphony of the Night, wowee it was good" thread
-Assorted shitposts fanboying and flamewarring over Mario or Sonic or Zelda

I also think that people don't just pretend to like games, it's natural to learn to appreciate and want to explore more foundational works in a genre or that explored certain mechanics or game design.

[Anonymous No.5533498]

>>5533494
>thread about japanese game
>speak english you weebs XD
Yeah

[Anonymous No.5533569]

>>5533494
what about the arrangement do you think is strange?

[Anonymous No.5533589]

>>5533131
>info graphics of compiled information ruin my day because I'm a faggot

[Anonymous No.5533601]

>>5533569
Nothing at all, other than maybe having a conversation about why we would have the chart arranged by genre and then near the bottom have 'PC" and "Handhelds". I also think there is some discussion to be had over what constitutes genre, but I don't have any particular beef with any of your choices.

[Anonymous No.5533607]

>>5533601
it's still much of a wip but yeah the pc / handheld stuff could just be thrown into their respective genre tags

[Anonymous No.5533706]

>>5533601
I kind of like the fact PC has it's own category.

Someone in here wrote an interesting analysis earlier about console /vr/ and pc /vr/ almost being separate boards with how little they tend to interact, seen through that lens it makes perfect sense how this chart turned out the way it did. This is a list of console games divided by genre with separate categories for PC games (which historically have tended to have a much different design philosophy than console games) and handhelds.

[Anonymous No.5533752]

>>5522489
>he doesn't play boring games to help him sleep at night

lmaoin @ u

[Anonymous No.5533757]

>>5523924
I kind of see what you mean? It's a good game on a system people just assume has no good games at all.

[Anonymous No.5533760]

Super Mario RPG is total trash compared to any of the commonly recognized good Dragon Quest games

[Anonymous No.5533761]

>>5525936
A spinoff would be a fair choice since everyone is willing to fight to the death over the numbered entries. The fact that there's only one /vr/ Tactics entry helps too. No competition.

[Anonymous No.5533772]

>>5533569
It's still obviously in it's early stages, more categories should iron out any early version oddness. The game picks are all fine, there just need to be more of them.

One thing that is kind of weird is SOTN having an "elevated" position and Super Metroid just being listed by category, those two should probably be together wherever you put them.

[Anonymous No.5533795]

I love how jarpigs and collectors and other kind of poseurs ALWAYS shill treasure shmups to pretend they have eclectic elite tastes while they actually NEVER ever play the games

fucking poseurs with their dust catching collection sitting on shelves, disgusting

[Anonymous No.5533882]

>>5533795
HEY GUYS. Video game collector here.

Check me out. I'm l33t as frick.

Suzuki Bakuhatsu!? BEST puzzle game ever. Totally ripped off by that shitty PC game "Keep Talking and Nobody Explodes"!

Paranoia Scape!? A surreal DOOM-like first person pinball game... what a concept!

Kowloon's Gate!? Man, oh man, just read the HardcoreGaming101 article on this little gem... it's deeper than the pool at my local YMCA!

Kula World!? You think Super Monkey Ball is cool... THIS IS REVOLUTIONARY!

Cho Aniki!? Play this to realize just how trash most SHUMP games are... one of the first homoerotic video games too.

Tetsu One!? TRAINS, LOTS AND LOTS OF TRAINS... going fast as fuck, parallel tracks that intersect, clashing, derailing... why isn't this an e-sport!?

Korokoro Post Nin!? You're a FUCKING sexy little dime piece with your heart set on delivering mail... the world literally revolves around you! Fuck off Fez!1

[Anonymous No.5533883]

>>5533494
I completely agree with you that /vr/ isn't just dedicated to obscure games, I made three posts starting here >>5530650
suggesting additions, the first post covered a few obvious omissions, including Blood which is the type of game you mentioned.

Posts 2 and 3 however were focused on more obscure and niche games that I've seen mentioned frequently on /vr/. A few of these games would get threads and had a small but passionate fanbase here but most of these were games that I would see pop up frequently in replies, recommendations and lists.

I think you'd have to agree that's the other side of this place, and both more well known and niche games should be represented in an essentials list representing /vr/.

[Anonymous No.5535013]

>>5533882
anon you're crossed the line

[Anonymous No.5535017]

>>5533795
Wanna know what I love? You :3

[Anonymous No.5535031]

>>5533795
Hey anon look at this funny image
it's a jar pig

[Anonymous No.5535092]

>>5522312
>being "/vr/-core" means only playing 5th gen jap games like a weebfag zoomer

[Anonymous No.5535101]

>>5535092
Being /vr/-core means get discussed on /vr/ and nothing else.

[Anonymous No.5535121]

>>5522454
>Metal Slug X over 3
fellow brethren

[Anonymous No.5535479]

>>5528379
Have you made an update to this yet? It's been a while since this was posted and you've gotten some suggestions to work with.

If you're still experimenting or don't know where to go with it posting what you've got would get you some feedback.

[Anonymous No.5535592]

>>5535479
nothing significant. I haven't adjusted anything here, only added a couple things.
>added dragon quest iii to rpgs

>added fightan
>third strike
>alpha 2 + 3
>kof 98
>power stone 2
>darkstalkers 3
>jojos bizarre adventure
>gundam wing endless duel

>added belt scroller
>guardian heroes
>turtles in time
>final fight
>streets of rage 2
>panzer bandit
>ninja warriors again

I also have a couple other categories planned out, including rearranging some stuff into a classics tab. As well as categories for shmup, puzzle, sports, and visual novel . all lists are still very incomplete, including those already represented. Might make a public google doc so anyone can just throw in suggestions and highlight those which they agree with.

[Anonymous No.5535648]

>>5535592
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1irQ6dE0utTNGwqNw7YAOgXKDjwyUNalAYvtJQK2txh8/edit?usp=sharing

[Anonymous No.5535659]

I vote for OoT, FFVII and SM64.

[Anonymous No.5535697]

>>5523774
and?

[Anonymous No.5535714]

>>5535592
Fighting, shmups, and beat'em ups were all sorely missing from earlier versions, so it's good that you added those.

Not much to say about the game pics for those categories, most of them seem like pretty basic obvious picks.

I will say though that you probably shouldn't rely on the Google doc as anything more than supplementary if you want to keep people interested, you should probably keep posting new versions of the image here to engage with the community you're trying to represent.

Also, if you start a new thread with an updated image it should avoid a lot of the shitposts about the original image

[Anonymous No.5535723]

>>5535714
>Also, if you start a new thread with an updated image it should avoid a lot of the shitposts about the original image
was planning on doing this when this thread died but it's lasted longer than I expected. I've still got a lot to do before I have a chart i'm satisfied with so not sure when I'll make a new thread

[Anonymous No.5535724]

>>5524085
I second this image

[Anonymous No.5535952]

>>5535013
What line!? I didn't know there was a line. What are they waiting for?

[Anonymous No.5536531]

>>5535101
that makes it even more retarded. several PC games have constant threads here, yet this chart is console exclusive.

there's no denying that this "/vr/ core" chart is in fact a "games I personally like" chart.

[Anonymous No.5536562]

>>5525347
After reading the thread, it's confirmed that this shit is just your taste and doesn't line with the justifications behind the list at all

[Anonymous No.5536564]

Dear diary,

today OP was a faggot.

[Anonymous No.5536779]

>awful thread
>249 replies
we did it reddit

[Anonymous No.5536806]

>>5536779
you should look at the half life thread.

[Anonymous No.5536835]

>>5523146
>>5523148
>s3&k

[Anonymous No.5537410]

Is Jagged Alliance 2 /vr/ core?

[Anonymous No.5538432]

>>5536562
are you blind