/CRT/ Thread - Head On Edition

[Anonymous No.5518845]

>Try to keep things /vr/ related: Focus should be on 5th Gen (+Dreamcast) games on back. Slight off topic is fine so long as it's related to CRTs, such as later 16:9 models, HD models, etc. Systems with backwards compatibility are also safe territory, as are re-releases on newer hardware. PC CRTs are also welcome and appreciated.
>Produce OC! Bust out your camera and take photos of your CRTs displaying all sorts of games, featuring all sorts of tubes, using all sorts of signals. Getting good shots can be hard, but if you take enough, at least a few will turn out alright. Tips'n'Tricks™ coming soon.
>Try and give as much information as possible when asking for info on a specific set, or troubleshooting an issue to expedite and help you may receive. As always, Google is your friend and we are your friends with benefits. Older archived threads aren't a bad place to look either; Seriously, there's literally 6 years of backlog at this point.
>Share appreciation for other's choice of technology and personal philosophy of gaming. Always remember to show courtesy in your discussion and moderate yourselves first.

Limited discussion of video processing and scaling devices is alright, but remember to keep the focus on CRTs and CRT accessories.

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[Anonymous No.5518852]

>>5518845
>Tips'n'Tricks™ coming soon.
when? Set your camera to 60hz for 240p, 30hz for 480i, adjust white balance until colors are correct.

[Kya !kDashing02 No.5518857]

>>5518852
When I stop being a lazy bastard and write something a bit more general and less flowery.

[Anonymous No.5518861]

Friendly reminder to always fall for the meme.

[Anonymous No.5518874]

you're supposed to link to the last thread
which was >>5495125 just for the record

[Kya !kDashing02 No.5518879]

>>5518874
I'm a moron and only half awake.

Thank you.

[Anonymous No.5518898]

Out of fear of fucking up my PVM's main board through my poor soldering skills, are there any places that still repair CRTs?

[Anonymous No.5518905]

>>5518860
>Just sort of had to back away from a lot of stuff for health reasons.
Get well soon

[Anonymous No.5518957]

What would you guys recommend for hooking up a pc to a pvm? My graphics card doesn't have vga, but it has dvi and up.

[Anonymous No.5518971]

Do composite cables make a PS2 look good on a HDTV?

[Anonymous No.5519000]

Thoughts on getting a PSP as an emulator output to a CRT?

[Anonymous No.5519024]

>>5518898
Try one of those apps or sites where you can request a random service.

[Anonymous No.5519028]

>>5518971
About as good as you’re gonna get out of a PS2. So yes.

[Kya !kDashing02 No.5519048]

>>5518898
Depends on your area, but people capable of doing in-depth work on them have been dwindling for years and years.

>>5518957
What GPU? The DVI output may be DVI-I which still has all the required pins for analog (VGA) output available.

>>5518971
A good portion of what the PS2 is outputting is going to be 480i, which your TV likely isn't going to treat the best to begin with. If possible feeding it Component just to have something clean for it to process can go a long ways. Composite is just asking for whatever it ends up displaying to look like trash.

>>5519000
Assuming you mean using the PSP as the emulator, the TV out is going to end up windowboxed terribly so regardless of whether you're doing interlaced or progressive output, and the quality of said emulation is going to be pretty trash as well. Any PSP native software gets stuck with this as well, so PSP games also leave a good bit to be desired.

Would be decent for PS1 games though, as those will output at fullscreen and 240p even when set to "interlaced" in the system settings. GO would be the nicest model to do this with, given the ability to pair a DS3 with it.

>>5518905
t.hanks

[Anonymous No.5519134]

I'm having a hard time finding resources for a crt I picked up the other day. Images in 480i are cropped because of overscan, and I wanted to see if I could adjust the image.

Problem is, I think this tv is too old to have a service menu.

[Anonymous No.5519248]

>>5519048
Thank you

I'm really doubting between a PSP Go and a Vita, as the PS output to CRT is way too tempting. Will look more into it

[Anonymous No.5519281]

anyone know how to get the adnaved settings with a JVC AV-27D302

[Anonymous No.5519326]

crts in foreign (read: 3rd world) countries?
after the related thread that was on /vr/ a couple of weeks ago, I havent stopped playing Uncharted Waters, and it got me thinking, could I get in my dinghy, travel to Brazil, slide through the favelas, dodge the el gangsteros and buy crts for cheap?
assuming of course that I could buy enough to make a large enough profit to cover food costs at 90% rations

[Anonymous No.5519381]

>>5518861
I will never forget.

[Anonymous No.5519389]

>>5519248
For PS1, PSP 2000/3000/Go. For most other things Wii does a lot better for CRT. Vita is pretty nice as a handheld emu machine though.

[Anonymous No.5519391]

>>5519326
Mountains of cheapo consumer shit that's not worth the shipping cost. Also PAL-M, enjoy the incompatible composite.

[Anonymous No.5519538]

>>5519326
The newest CRTs being made are in South Asia.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HovUBEvlpAQ

Although the other anon is right in that it definitely wouldn't be worth the trouble to ship one to wherever you may be.

[Anonymous No.5519545]

>>5519134
How old we talkin? Does it have an on screen menu at all? You may have to adjust pots on the inside of it.

[Anonymous No.5519595]

>>5519538
I think those are Chinese-made models just being sold in India. I wouldn't be surprised if they were made from salvaged or new old stock tubes.

[Anonymous No.5519643]

>>5519048
This gpu https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127880
I think it has both possible dvis because it came with a dvi to vga adapter.

[Anonymous No.5519976]

What does recapping a CRT do exactly?

[Anonymous No.5520068]

>>5519000
Get a Wii instead if that's your only reason to use a psp, unless you mean emulating PS1 then sure

[Anonymous No.5520115]

What's the best way to play region free SNES with RGB? I'm open to FPGA and such, I deal is just that I live in europe and want to play my japanese and pal carts on my PVM.

By the way what's up with the discord server?

[Anonymous No.5520207]

Finally got my hands on a computer monitor. Even though the computer is some no-name company, I was pleasantly surprised by the quality of the image. CRT is Model Sylvania TF721.

Not even an hour after I had got it, an issue arose. There is a problem where if the cord is bent in a certain place, The image becomes green, red, or blue tinted. I know the problem is the cord because if I hold it in certain position really still I can retain a clean image. My question is how should I go about replacing the cord? I am stuck between slicing the cord before the bad area and soldering on a new one, or opening the monitor and replacing the full cable. Also, I am not sure how to decipher which cord goes where. Looking online, It seems like there isn't really a standard for VGA, with there being different amounts of wires inside the cable. What would be the best way to go about replacing the cable, and how will I know where which cord should go? Any advice/clarifications are really appreciated.

Here's a pic before the thing started acting up.

[Anonymous No.5520230]

>>5518845
Thank you OP!

[Anonymous No.5520316]

>>5520207
Nice pickup, anon. Some Sylvanias were pretty nice.
>I am stuck between slicing the cord before the bad area and soldering on a new one, or opening the monitor and replacing the full cable.
The better bet would be to open it up and replace it entirely. In fact, I highly doubt that splicing a new cable halfway along its length will do anything to resolve the issue, as it's much more likely that the issue is the solder joints where the cable is attached inside.
>Also, I am not sure how to decipher which cord goes where.
Ideally, you could use a technician's spec sheet for the monitor, if one exists and you can find it. Alternatively, if you're committed to replacing the cable, you could (very carefully) strip the casing off of the cable and just look at what goes where.

[Anonymous No.5520325]

>>5520207
>>5520316
Also, I had a suspicion that "hardwired" cables aren't actually hardwired, and are instead just connected on the inside. A quick web search turned up some forum posts that suggest this is true.
So before you go cutting things up, open up the monitor's case and see if it's just a connector in there that needs to be tightened down.

[Anonymous No.5520337]

>>5519326
Most CRT around here only have Composite. At best S-Video

Literally have a late trinitron at home and it only has old Composite. Looks great but will never get to experience the rest. Sad

[Anonymous No.5520426]

>>5519538
>being made
No. Stop with this retarded meme, tubes are not made anymore

[Anonymous No.5520431]

>>5519538
Those tubes do not appear new.

[Anonymous No.5520450]

What are some of the best PC CRTs? Mainly looking for high max resolution (2048x1536 or 1920x1440) above 60hz and a good dot pitch so that it looks good at those resolutions

[Anonymous No.5520452]

I've recently been wanting to get a CRT PC monitor for old DOS/PC98 games and such, but have no idea what to look for.

So, whats good? Whats the trinitron of PC monitors

[Anonymous No.5520503]

By this picture, would you guys guess this set has geometry or collapse issues? By the yellow text, it's certainly looks like something's wrong, but I'm no expert. It's fairly close to me but I don't wanna drive and be disappointed.

[Anonymous No.5520671]

>>5520503
Looks fine to me.

[Anonymous No.5520857]

>>5520316
>>5520325
Alright, I opened that beast up without dying On the inside the tube was a Samsung, which was surprising for me. You were right about the VGA cables not be hardwired and instead being connected. I unplugged that big white connector, cleaned it, and plugged it back in with no luck. Still the same color issue. My only choice now is to replace the cable. Now, where can I find a VGA cable with this white connector at one end or how create one? The only soldering I have to do is attach ground to that big metal plate.

[Anonymous No.5520867]

>>5520857
Would I need something like this?

[Anonymous No.5520924]

>>5519643
>>5519048
Double checking I believe both are actually dvi-i
I wouldn't know what would be the best cord for the job though.

[Anonymous No.5520960]

>>5520867
Looks close enough to be worth a shot. If I were you, I'd get that and one of pic related so I could use a longer VGA cable and not wear out the one with the D-sub connector.

[Anonymous No.5520963]

>>5520960
forgot pic

[Anonymous No.5521034]

>>5520960
>>5520963
Yea, even if it doesn't work $10 isn't the biggest loss ever. I'll post updates later.

[Anonymous No.5521045]

>>5521034
looking forward to it

[Kya !kDashing02 No.5521251]

>>5520924
Only one is going to be DVI-I, and even if both connectors are, the card only has one DAC to handle output of analog signals.
Cord wise, just going with a basic DVI-I to HD15(VGA) adapter would be the best route. From there, HD15/VGA to BNC.

This will get you RGB to your PVM, but unless it's an L5 or D-Series BVM/other Multiformat model, you're going to need to jump through additional hoops to get a signal appropriate for the monitor.
crt_emudriver is the way a lot of people go for getting 15khz video output from AMD cards; It's a custom driver which allows you to spit out low enough resolution video for your PVM to accept.
Alternatively, you can get it to do it manually in linux via xrandr or otherwise if you're feeling frisky.
The other direction you can take is passing it through a downscaler like an Extron VSC or similar, but this is going to give you 480i and add a bit of delay.

[Anonymous No.5521276]

>>5519545
Sorry, I had to be away from the pc for a while. It's from 1984. I've been having a hard time finding a manual for it too

[Anonymous No.5521360]

>>5520867
It's a shame you'll lose the nice clean gasket and strain relief coming out of the monitor.

How about half-assing the fix by using something to keep the cable permanently straight or bent (as needed) at the trouble point? Free and easy.

[Anonymous No.5521672]

>>5519643
>This gpu https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127880
>>5520924
The listing is wrong. Only one of those DVI ports is DVI-I. You can see which one if you look at the pics, too.

[Anonymous No.5521761]

>>5521360
i'm gonna slice down the middle of the gasket with a razor blade and the glue to back together. We'll see how well that works.

The cable needs to be in such a precise spot I can barely get it in the right spot half the time. That would be too much work.

[Anonymous No.5522202]

So I took gamble and bought two of pic related, 6€ each. Even chaining two of them there is no loss in picture quality at all. The buttons are kinda shit though. Im so impressed I might go back and buy third one so that I dont run out of scart inputs when I buy more consoles.

[Anonymous No.5522215]

How do I make good crt shots?

[Anonymous No.5522258]

please ignore rotated image, i suck cocks.
i have an extron 190f hooked up to my rgb trinitron, just the red signal for testing, whats the issue here? obviously sync, but i dont see what the issue is. im using the combined sync (labeled s on the extron box) but this is what im getting. do i need a sync stripper or a conditioner? ive tried plugging sync into composite and to s-video luma, same result. any help is appriciated.

[Anonymous No.5522263]

>>5522258
forgot to mention, the image is still, it just jitters up and down a little. no scrolling or anything.

[Anonymous No.5522307]

>>5522258
If you're only using the red signal, then that could very well be the issue. Try connecting everything and report back.

[Anonymous No.5522316]

>>5522307
i was using all 3, i got the same thing, the reason im only using one color is to make testing setup easier. same jittery mess with all 3, i can get a picture of that too though.

[Anonymous No.5522525]

>>5522215
TV model?

[Anonymous No.5522939]

>>5520207
I also have a Sylvania. It's pretty good, but has some problems with colors as well. Though mine appears to be a problem with the gun rather than the cables, but honestly who knows? It works fine most of the time and I use it for new games as well.

[Anonymous No.5523180]

>>5522258
What resolution are you sending? Got pics of what you have hooked up?

[Anonymous No.5523183]

>>5522215
Shutter speed set to match framerate, 1/30s for 480i 1/60s for 240p60 etc. Manual white balance, manual sensitivity if possible.

[Anonymous No.5523189]

>>5523180
I've tried sending 800x600 and up, resolution changes the image very slightly, but it stays a blurry mess. I don't have it set up at the moment, i'd rather not go through the process before i have something new to try.

[Anonymous No.5523206]

>>5523189
This is an SD CRT right? You'll need to send 240p or 480i. 800x600 is waay too high.

[Anonymous No.5523516]

>>5523206
im using the model 190f extron rgb converter, it says it can go higher than 1600x1200. i dont see why the crt would be limited to 320x240 or something like that, but ill see what i can do.

[Anonymous No.5523525]

>>5523516
The Extron box doesn't change resolution, you still need to be sending a resolution the CRT accepts, only ones you're gonna see that do 1600x1200+ are PC monitors and projectors.

[Anonymous No.5523580]

ive found some luck. using the vga output on my laptop, 800x600 resolution gave me this result. i tried to lower the resolution to 320x240, 60 hz and 30 hz, neither of those displayed anything recognizable. the vertical sync seems ok but how the image is repeated multiple times horozontally tells me its definitly a sync issue. i even tried 1600x1200 and it was somewhat recognizable, just very squished, which makes sense.

[Anonymous No.5523582]

>>5523580
aaaaand its upside down.
nice

[Anonymous No.5523782]

>>5523580
Dude you're trying to send 800x600 to a TV, of course it's not going to work. Unless you have custom drivers the VGA out is not going to be 480i/240p, even if it says it is .

[Anonymous No.5523797]

>>5518845
what crt is this? can you take a regular front on picture? it looks really nice.

[Anonymous No.5523832]

>>5523580
How are you setting the resolution? What GPU/OS?

[Anonymous No.5523865]

>>5523782
are you retarted? i said twice im using an extron 190f rgb converter. please google what that is and post some more.

[Anonymous No.5523921]

>>5523865
Doesn't look like a scaler to me bud. Looks like if you're feeding it 800x600 RGBHV that it's just gonna pass that resolution through and strip the sync.

[Anonymous No.5523923]

>>5523580
The TV expects 240p/480i. 1200=240*5 so you get 5 images across.

>>5523865
190f is not a scaler.

[Anonymous No.5524164]

Have anyone tried this before? Does it convert NTSC to PAL60 or to 50hz?

[Anonymous No.5524175]

>>5524164
Im waiting for mine to arrive, but as I understood it, it should convert ntsc to pal60

[Anonymous No.5524198]

I've got a nice CRT computer monitor that supports sync on green component which lets me use it with a PS2. Its mostly used for retro computing, but whats a good way to get composate and S-video to a CRT's VGA?
Would be nice to also hook up my NES, Genesis, etc, to it.

[Anonymous No.5524208]

>>5524198
The best solution is OSSC->HDMI->VGA.

http://junkerhq.net/xrgb/index.php?title=Analogue_video_output_options_for_OSSC

[Anonymous No.5524223]

>>5524208
I've been planning on picking up a OSSC at some point, but it seems a little silly to convert analog to digital back to analog, but i'm not really finding any better solutions then what you've suggested.
I might just skip using the CRT for game consoles and just use the OSSC with my flat panel TV.

[Anonymous No.5524229]

>>5524223
If you read the options on that link there's actually no downsides to converting back to analog if the converter is good. Converting it back that way would certainly look nicer than an HDTV accepting the signal.

[Anonymous No.5524230]

>>5524229
Huh, I'll give a further look though on that.
Thanks for the responses btw

[Anonymous No.5524381]

>Mixed Pallet of CRT TVs and Monitors
>£9.95

[Anonymous No.5524432]

This old boomer refuses to sell for less than $40. I know this model has a permanently turned on edge enhancement setting that looks like shit, but it can be disabled by disconnecting a wire on the main board. Should I go for it for $40? Seems like a high price.

[Anonymous No.5524448]

>>5524432
No, offer him $25 in a month when it's still on there.

[Anonymous No.5524450]

>>5524448
That was my original offer. Then I tried $30, then $35 and he still wouldn't budge. After I agreed to $40 he raised the price to $50 on the ad. I fucking hate baby boomers.

[Anonymous No.5524451]

>>5524450
Just walk away. Find something better.

[Anonymous No.5524491]

>>5524451
This. Go to a couple of thrift stores before resorting to Craigslist if all you're looking for is a consumer set.

[Anonymous No.5525032]

>>5520503 This anon here.
Here's a video the seller sent me. The reason I'm being paranoid is because I had 3 trinitrons I bought locally die on me recently. I'm out of CRTs and I need to be sure I'm not fucking myself again.

Does this look right to you, /vr/?

[Anonymous No.5525047]

>>5523580
>vga output on my laptop
It still may require a specific resolution that your laptop may not support. 640x480 interlaced would be the first place I would check. Getting proper 240p from a computer can be a pain in the ass, but not impossible.

>>5523923
>The TV expects 240p/480i. 1200=240*5 so you get 5 images across.
This.

[Anonymous No.5525053]

Are these Indian late generation CRTs actually as slim as the photos suggest?

[Anonymous No.5525062]

>>5525053
looks like shit, as is to be expected from india. I've seen better plastic from a 3d printer

[Anonymous No.5525071]

>>5525053
nevermind, I'm going to say the answer is "no"

Still interesting page to look at:
https://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/14-21-inch-ultra-slim-pure_60064557367.html

I swear, one of these days some savvy person is going to hook up the right contacts and start getting companies like this to make retro CRT tvs for sale in the west.

[Anonymous No.5525073]

>>5525062
Wouldn't matter because I would just decase it and mount it in a cab. Image quality is probably so-so, but also acceptable for that usage.

[Anonymous No.5525087]

>>5525032
thats just static, only thing it tells that it turns on and theres bright picture, which is good start. But we cant tell anything else from these two pictures.

[Anonymous No.5525097]

>>5525087
I mean, I don't know if I'm having a stroke, but I'm kinda seeing the text shaking. I remember the shakes from a previous set I've had, it had horizontal collapse issues and died. I want to see it personally but its an hour drive away.

[Anonymous No.5525102]

>>5525071
I am sure there are pallets of these sitting new in the box somewhere in the world. All you would have to do is buy up a few hundred of them for a bargain price (I assume the owners have trouble moving them these days), then have them shipped to a location where they can be decased and rebuilt into something suitably retro and Sony-ish looking. Charge a huge price for a "new" , "premium" grade CRT (with service menu tweaks and manual re-calibration the image should actually be pretty nice, and I think these have component) and I think you could make some money.

[Anonymous No.5525105]

>>5525097
That's normal with no input signal.

Good news though, at least you know it picks up CBR.

[Anonymous No.5525110]

>>5525102
They've just got piles of them laying around.

[Anonymous No.5525113]

>>5525102
>I think you could make some money.
Put your money where your mouth is then. Alibaba is your friend.

[Anonymous No.5525146]

>>5525113
If I had the $100k you'd need to start up a business like that I would.
You'd need to do a lot of research beforehand and get the marketing just right for a product like this.

I think you'd want to go for the 14" units first because of their shipping weight, and the possibility of being repackaged into another product. Imagine a competitor to the arcade1up systems, but this time with an actual CRT in them. The biggest reason why no one does that is because getting hundreds or thousands of identical new CRTs is a problem right now, but this could be the solution. You would not need to decase them for a mini-cab, just build them around it. And you could sell the cabs without the CRTs as well if a buyer wanted to supply their own small CRT.

So you'd have a site selling three products: the TVs, the cabs with the TVs in the, and the cabs by themselves. Maybe also offer a wooden "console television" kit to surround the TV to cover up a bit of the ugliness of the plastic.

Just some ideas, there are other ways to go about it.

[Anonymous No.5525151]

>>5525146
You're grossly overestimating the demand for CRTs.

[Anonymous No.5525156]

Here's another interesting CRT:

http://salestores.com/samsun14.html

21" CRT with only 12.8" depth.

[Anonymous No.5525175]

>>5524432
>>5524450
He messed with you for wasting his time. From his perspective, you eventually found $40 reasonable on the 4th try when he considered that price reasonable from the start. In any case, he should have let you take it for $40 even after all your attempts to shave it down.

[Anonymous No.5525202]

>>5520450
Eizo F980 or F930

[Anonymous No.5525590]

>>5525047
Getting 240p is often easier than getting a PC to do 480i

[Anonymous No.5525690]

>>5525151
I feel like a lot of people forget about how niche of an interest CRTs are, even with their increased popularity in recent years.

[Anonymous No.5525924]

>>5525690
when some older person asks why I still have a small crt I tell them; I still have my old video games. Theyre all analog. They dont look right on hdtvs. I need an analog tv for my analog games.

[Anonymous No.5526771]

>>5520450
LaCie Electron Blue IV

[Anonymous No.5527054]

I just chanced upon multiple medical supply warehouses filled with PVMs in the middle of nowhere USA. The owner is desperate to get rid of them and seems willing to cut me a deal. Should I get rid of my 3 consumer sets and buy them all?

[Anonymous No.5527069]

>>5525146
>If I had the $100k you'd need to start up a business like that I would.
You don't need a penny, that's what banks are for.

Put together a watertight business plan and present it for the required startup loan. All they want to know is whether they'll get the money back, simple as that.

[Anonymous No.5527071]

>>5527054
Definitely.

Why stop at selling your current CRTs? Sell everything you own.

[Anonymous No.5527146]

>>5527054
Definitely buy everything if possible. Hell, rent a warehouse to store them in if you must, until you can offload them.

[Anonymous No.5527183]

Today after a week or two of hunting I came accross a sony trinitron crt
Sony KV-13M42

Now I never came across this but it only has a yellow and white input. I'm wondering if this will be decent enough for a first crt for gaming?

It's a nice small TV too. It's 13 inches.

I just don't know if my standard composite cable would work.

[Anonymous No.5527285]

>>5527183
Yellow is standard composite video. The other is mono audio.
How much is it?

[Anonymous No.5527320]

>>5527285
$5

[Anonymous No.5527359]

>>5527183
>I just don't know if my standard composite cable would work.
>I'm wondering if this will be decent enough for a first crt for gaming?
Its mostly likely good enough, but you are stuck with mono audio unless you use external amplifier and speakers/headphones.

[Anonymous No.5527403]

Alright bros is there a way to get my PC to run some retroarch through a crt? Or is it too expensive to bother.

[Anonymous No.5527473]

So today I found the service manual for my old Sony set and I adjusted all the picture values to the defaults it listed, which were all off by varying degrees. It made quite a noticeable difference. It doesn’t come through in the pic but the brightness is radically different.

Dark blacks while retaining detail in the background. This area of Super Metroid has never looked quite before. Detail in the dark background and around the pinkish ground, while not being so washed out and overly visible as seen in emulator screenshots.

[Anonymous No.5527478]

>>5527320
Knock yourself out then. Remember to post pictures when you get it.

[Anonymous No.5527489]

>>5527473
Emulator screenshot for reference

[Anonymous No.5527980]

What's the difference between a Dell P1130 and a Dell P1230?

[Anonymous No.5528067]

>>5527403
Does your PC have a VGA or DVI-I output?

[Anonymous No.5528069]

>>5527489
>>5527473
This mostly has to do with the gamma curve of the CRT vs how it was captured by the emulator.

[Anonymous No.5528075]

>>5527320
Buy it now. Composite is absolutely fine for a 13" TV.

[Anonymous No.5528243]

>>5520207
>>5520857
>>5520867
The r eplacement cord doesn't fit! What do you guys think I should do now? I really want to save this monitor.

>>5521360
>>5521761
For the Anon who asked about the gasket I successfully removed it and it will be super simple to insert a new cable and glue it back together.

[Anonymous No.5528283]

>>5527054
how many? just sell them all on ebay, especially if they're 14 inchers

[Anonymous No.5528320]

>>5528243
Try sliding a pin out of the new cable and see if it will hook into the old connector. You'll see where you have to press for the pin to slide out. If it snaps in properly, try rewiring the whole connector.

[Anonymous No.5528396]

>>5528320
I'm able to remove the pins from the new cable, but I can't figure out how to remove the ones from the old cable without bending the plastic.

[Anonymous No.5528516]

>>5528396
If the old connector retains pins that differently, then the new pins likely won't click in properly anyway. If you eventually succeed in removing the pins safely, you could try removing the old wires and re-crimping the new ones to those pins. Or you could order a replacement connector and pin set if you're able to ID the right replacement.

[Anonymous No.5528518]

I just found a HP M70 crt monitor, and I want to clean the pedestal stand because it was filthy when I found it and spiders like to live in crt monitor stands in my experience, but I don't see a way to remove it, and there's no rubber feet on the monitor, so I'm not sure what to do. Any advice?

[Anonymous No.5528536]

>>5528518
>>5528518
If you turn the monitor upside-down and slide the stand all the way forward or all the way back, do you not see a retention tab that is holding the stand to the chassis? That's a common design for most PC monitors. Normally you'd press that tab and slide the stand forward or back to unlock the rest of the tabs inserted into the base.

[Anonymous No.5528559]

>>5528536
Well, I figured it out. The tab is meant to allow you to unlock the stand from the base, the base is permenantly attached. I found two tabs, one in the back, one in the front. I thought it was the one in the back you were talking about. I didn't know what the front tab was, So I pushed on it, thinking it would free the base. Out of fear that I wasn't pushing hard enough, I pushed harder and snapped it. The stand came free after that.
So now the monitor will now freely rise from the stand if I tilt if forward and turn it to the left. Good job me.

[Anonymous No.5528590]

>>5528559
Ouch, sorry anon. I've done that before.

[Anonymous No.5528604]

>>5528590
Well, I've connected the monitor to an hdmi converter connected to my computer, and now whatever resolution its on, it keeps blinking signal and I hear clicks or maybe even sparks, especially when its degaussing

[Anonymous No.5528608]

>>5528604
Stick to a resolution/refresh rate combo you're sure both the monitor and your HDMI converter support. Try 640x480 or 800x600 @ 60Hz to start.

[Anonymous No.5528609]

- CRTs are no longer produced because they have inferior picture quality versus LCDs
- CRTs emit dangerous levels of X-rays or other forms of radiation
- CRTs always have easily-visible flicker
- CRTs always cause eyestrain
- CRTs always make a high-pitched squealing noise
- CRTs contain lethal amounts of electricity, even when unplugged
- CRTs need calibration more than two to three times a year
- Overall CRT black levels are not superior to LCDs because ambient light ruins CRT black levels
- Analog CRTs have more processing time than digital LCDs due to poor RAMDAC performance
- Afterimages caused by phosphor decay are extremely annoying and are a significant downside of CRTs
- Sending an improper mode (resolution or refresh rate) to a CRT can cause permanent damage
- CRTs cannot have touchscreens
- 4:3 is so bad that nobody should use a non-widescreen CRT
- The Sony GDM-FW900 is the only CRT worth owning
- Curved CRTs have objectively inferior picture quality versus flat CRTs with otherwise equal specifications
- CRTs should not be used because they are heavier and deeper than LCDs
- CRTs have severe reflections because they do not have matte coats
- CRTs can be permanently damaged by nearby magnets
- Analog signals limit a CRT's resolutions and refresh rates and negatively effect picture quality
- Heavy metals are used in CRT glass to reduce radiation

[Anonymous No.5528618]

>>5528608
I tried navigating nvidia control panel but it kept switching from saying I had one monitors to two monitors. Then the monitor went to orange LED for standby, and now I turned it off and on again and now it says Video Cable Connected?
I'm going to test my shitty e773c to see if my converter still works.

[Anonymous No.5528624]

>>5527489
People camped out and paid to have it look like this. Is it because they're not allowed to own a CRT? Do they not know about ebay? Did they mostly just want to tell everyone they got the official emulator box?

[Anonymous No.5528636]

>>5528618
Maybe make sure it isn't trying clone your main display.

Also maybe the flaky detection and switching to standby could be some eldritch HDMI negotiation magick, ugh.

[Anonymous No.5528637]

how to if fix this shading bleed or whatever you would call it? It seems to show up nomatter what Input or system I have in.

[Anonymous No.5528638]

>>5528618
so I went to set up multiple displays and the second display was somehow disabled
in the middle of changing monitor position and resolution, it would constantly change back to the old resolution and position. even on 640x480x60, it turns off and on again about every 10 seconds. it's kinda inconsistent. But when it turns off, it cuts the signal. the shitty e773c never did this with the converter.

[Anonymous No.5528639]

>>5528637
composite video?

[Anonymous No.5528647]

>>5528638
Also, if I try to operate the menu inbetween blinks, the menu disappears when the display reappears.

[Anonymous No.5528648]

>>5528639
That's actually s-video but it shows up on rgb too, I'm using a Sony PVM-20M2U. I also seem to be getting a slight screen tear every now and again, but I think that's just my cheapass s-video chord.

[Anonymous No.5528650]

>>5528609
>CRTs should not be used because they are heavier and deeper than LCDs
weakling

[Anonymous No.5528687]

>>5528609
>4:3 is so bad that nobody should use a non-widescreen CRT
I find this one especially dumb because a 4:3 display is basically the only way to view a wide variety of movies and games without the image being letterboxed or stretched.

[Anonymous No.5528868]

>>5528638
If the difference between working and not working is the monitor, look at everything from the converter onward in order, not necessarily the PC. If it's optionally powered, are you powering it or letting it get all of its power from HDMI? If the VGA cable running into the new monitor can be separated from the monitor, can you try a higher quality/shorter cable? Finally, are you sure the monitor itself is getting enough power? If its power cable is separate and seems a little light or thin, can you try a better one on a known stable power outlet?

[Anonymous No.5528896]

I've got a 17" SyncMaster 796MB and a 21" RCA TV similar to pic related, which one should I get a converter for?

[Anonymous No.5528908]

>>5528896
does the TV have component input?

[Anonymous No.5528912]

>>5528896
>21"
Are you in a PAL country? Does your TV have RGB SCART input? Does it say "Thomson" anywhere on the back? And is it 100 Hz?

tl;dr - post model # of your TV

[Anonymous No.5528917]

>>5528908
Yes, S-Video, composite and standard A/V.

[Anonymous No.5528924]

>>5528912
>Are you in a PAL country?
Yes
>Does your TV have RGB SCART input?
No
>Does it say "Thomson" anywhere on the back?
No
>And is it 100 Hz?
Not sure, I can't find a spec sheet anywhere (RCA RAR-2108 USL)

[Anonymous No.5528925]

>>5528917
Are you planning to use real consoles or emulation?

[Anonymous No.5528927]

>>5528925
Emulation, do I just stick with the monitor?

[Anonymous No.5528929]

>>5528927
Just depends. A 17" monitor is kind of small.
I say get a Wii and hack it, then run component and 240p to the TV. If you're at the level where you are asking these kinds of questions this option will provide the highest quality with the least amount of configuration and money invested.

Alternatively build a dedicated emulation PC for the 17" monitor with a GPU that has VGA out and can run high quality shaders. Something like GTX 750/950/960

[Anonymous No.5528950]

>>5528929
I'll look into the Wii, I have a Q6600 laying around but I need to change the GPU. Thanks for the help.

[Anonymous No.5529008]

>>5528609
BASED
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Guaranteed Replies.

[Anonymous No.5529115]

>>5528637
It looks like your brightness is way too high. Not the issue, but it would be less noticeable with the set properly adjusted.

[Anonymous No.5529129]

>>5528283
One of the buildings had about 20 alone from what I could tell. It was a massive place and very cluttered, so I'm sure there's more. The owner was certain his other storage places had similar amounts. They are all 20". The times I tried to get CRTs off eBay, they were broken (even in a fucking flight case), so I'm not gonna risk that. Might just sit on them.

[Anonymous No.5529131]

Can anyone recommend me a good shadow mask set?

[Anonymous No.5529153]

>>5529131
JVC D-Series are well regarded.

[Anonymous No.5529202]

>>5528069
Believe me I know, I made those adjustments after obsessively/autistically pondering the nature of black levels in CRTs for two days straight.

[Anonymous No.5529203]

>>5529131
panasonic, ikegami, toshiba, mitsubishi, nec, and even some of those RCA trueflat's look gorgeous.

[Anonymous No.5529272]

>>5528637
I'm not really helping but I've seen this a few times before with no solution offered other than recapping.

[Anonymous No.5529317]

>>5529272
I already recapped it...

[Anonymous No.5529324]

>>5528637
Did you pour water down the back of it?

[Anonymous No.5529328]

>>5529129
Are you near iowa, wouldn't mind buying one from you if the price wasn't rapey.

[Anonymous No.5529352]

>>5529328
Only about a 22 hour round trip.

[Anonymous No.5529357]

>>5528243
>What do you guys think I should do now? I really want to save this monitor.
If it were me, I'd do some more research to find out what kind I need buy another connector. Take measurements and stuff, there's gotta be someone selling that online somewhere.

[Anonymous No.5529393]

6500k vs 9300k on your setup?
6500k looks awful on my display, everything has a green filter through it

[Anonymous No.5529414]

>>5529393
Depends on how white your ambient lighting makes white objects irl look. You'll want to use warmer colors (cooler color temp) to match the yellow-reddish light of natural daylight more closely, and you'll want cooler colors (warmer color temp) to match something like the blueish hue of fluorescent lighting. If you need help, hold a bright white piece of paper next to your monitor and try to match it. Since my lights are either daylight or natural-tint LED lightbulbs between 2700-3000K, I stick to 6000-6500K.

[Anonymous No.5529423]

My CRT PC monitor just died, it's not syncing to the picture and the green LED is not lighting up.
I took a brief look inside and there are no components that are obviously broken, what do?

[Anonymous No.5529428]

>>5529423
Also it's a Compaq 472P which is a samsung OEM

[Anonymous No.5529724]

How viable is it to get a crt to emulate retro games from a pc?

[Anonymous No.5529739]

fuck, that fw900 sold for $2,100 on ebay

[Anonymous No.5529759]

>>5529724
it's complicated. On a crt tv? It can be difficult. ( https://forums.libretro.com/t/15-khz-crt-documentation-wiki/15671/2 )
On a crt monitor? It's the same function as emulating on any modern display.
if you want to emulate on a crt tv the recommended route is to use a wii to emulate, because it outputs 240p natively

[Anonymous No.5529874]

>>5529357
I've literally typed every key word I could think of, but I cant find what I need. It would help if I knew what that white connector is called.

[Anonymous No.5529907]

>>5529202
There is also the issue of CRT micro contrast, my own tinfoil hat theory as to why CRTs look better than LCD.

[Anonymous No.5529914]

>>5529739
Not surprising. I think that CRT is one of the very few that has never really dipped down to what could be called "cheap" levels. Even a decade ago they were still going for hundreds on the used market.

[Anonymous No.5530072]

Why are we so retarded? I know its stupid as fuck but I keep chasing a crt monitor that will help relieve the past times...

Its way too sad.

[Anonymous No.5530107]

>>5530072
If you want it to be like the old times why are you needing to spend time chasing a CRT monitor? Did you play on a high-spec production monitor in the past?

[Anonymous No.5530115]

>>5530107
It sounds to me like he's looking for the same consumer set he used when he was younger, which may end up being a tougher undertaking than looking for a specific pro monitor.

[Anonymous No.5530167]

>>5529874
Me again
>>5528516

They're both 12-pin single-row receptacle connectors. The new one looks like a JST PHR-12. I knew it looked familiar because the 10-pin version of this connector is what certain old Soundblasters used for their proprietary front panel audio jack headers. Because Creative Labs are jackasses. Checked my adapter cables and they match, except yours is a 12-pin.

The old one from the monitor may be from a different manufacturer. Measure the distance (pitch) between pins on the new connector and check digikey. When you find the right one, remember that you'll need to order pins too.

[Anonymous No.5530353]

>>5529739
URL of the ad?

[Anonymous No.5530383]

Is there anyone who can explain this image? Does the Dreamcast's image not look perfect on a VGA monitor because of scaling?

[Anonymous No.5530437]

>>5529759
On CRT sony trinitron pvm monitor.

How do I hook up my pc to it?
Everybody makes it sound like its rocket science but unless I'm missing something I just need this converter(that I already own) right?

And why is everybody obsessed with having svideo over componant(or vice versa)?

[Anonymous No.5530443]

>>5530437
Pic related

[Anonymous No.5530456]

>>5530383
DC outputs 720x480, but image is 640.
If you use a VGA CRT, you can just stretch to hide the L/R pillars.
All the rest is just when sampling for digital conversion.

[Anonymous No.5530629]

I found a Sony trinitron CRT monitor, but it has only one input video connector, and one output connector.

I thought pretty much all CRT were working with RCA.
So what kind of input/output format is this?

[Anonymous No.5530683]

>>5530456
I still don't understand. So the picture will be stretched using a DC on a VGA monitor? (Why would people say this is the best way to enjoy DC, then?) Also, what do you mean "All the rest is just when sampling for digital conversion."?

[Anonymous No.5530734]

>>5530683
A CRT doesn't have pixels, you can have the image however wide you want with no issues. For Dreamcast you'd set a bit wider than a broadcast standard 480p source.

[Anonymous No.5530748]

>>5530437
That converter will work okay, but it'll do 480i/576i out only, not the 240p/288p you'd want for retro use, so more flickery and/or fuzzy vertically, also has a frame or two lag from the downscaling.

Advantage of component over S-video is better colour resolution, most noticeable on things like coloured text,

[Anonymous No.5530751]

>>5530629
Got pics or a model number? That's presumably composite on a BNC connector, same thing as the yellow RCA on consumer stuff but with a nicer connector that's harder to accidentally disconnect.

[Anonymous No.5530754]

>>5530734
So using a DC on a VGA monitor results in a wider image than the developers intended?

[Anonymous No.5530772]

>>5530754
No, you just adjust the monitor to make it 4:3, then it's running as intended. It's only really an issue for digital capture.

[Anonymous No.5530781]

>>5530353
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Sony-GDM-FW900-CRT-Monitor-Good-Used-Condition-No-Cords-Tested-and-Working-/273780911452?_trksid=p2047675.m43663.l44720&nordt=true&rt=nc&orig_cvip=true

[Anonymous No.5530923]

I've had a Proton tv for a while now and there aren't very many out there, but just found one in Total Recall lol

[Anonymous No.5530942]

>in 2017 retro-access said they could reduce the cost of their bnc cables with 3d printed plugs
>2019 still as expensive as ever

[Anonymous No.5531048]

>>5530923
>Proton
Nice, I remember seeing big ones at The Good Guys (US, not Australia) back in 88/89 but I was too young to remember much other than they looked great and were some of the most expensive things in the store.

Are you by any chance in California? IIRC they were based here.

[Anonymous No.5531159]

>>5531048
they are an american company, first known for their hi-fi audio equipment. Not from California but I think the guy I bought it from had moved from there

[Anonymous No.5531195]

>>5531159
Sure, they were still selling them by the time I was old enough to start buying my own equipment, but they were priced in B&O territory and I never even considered saving up that much for a TV.

[Anonymous No.5531232]

>>5529739
>>5529914

Can't find the listing now but there was a black SGI FW900 on eBay uk the other day for £80 bin.

[Anonymous No.5531245]

>>5531232
>tfw it's cheaper to fly to the UK, catch a few Big Ben bongs, and come home with a nice black FW900 than buy one in your own memeriffic country

[Anonymous No.5531358]

>>5530751
>>5530748
If the CRT I'm going to purchase a single BNC input for video, does it mean I'm going too need the converter to output a 15kHz signal frequency in order to display, or is it fine if I just use a RCA converter?

[Anonymous No.5531362]

Actually let it be a general question, but my fear when getting my first CRT is not being able to output 15KHz frequency signal.

I heard this is key in many CRT in order to display the image, but some sources just claim it's in order to output component image format.

How does it work?
In order for me to output the display from a 1080 gtx

[Anonymous No.5531374]

>>5531362
15khz is the proper signal for 240p, if you're emulating, you need to have a 15khz compatible monitor and then you have to set your gpu up.
windows: https://www.reddit.com/r/emulation/comments/675wk4/guide_how_to_run_retroarch_at_240p_on_your_vga/
linux: https://github.com/alphanu1/MME4CRT-Auto-Script
there should be a pastebin with this info somewhere on this board but spergs don't like it

[Anonymous No.5531382]

>>5530942
What the hell are they doing now if 3d printing can be cheaper?

[Anonymous No.5531389]

>>5531374
Proper how?
Why would I need a 15hz monitor exactlt if I'm just looking to output my pc display?

I thought that if the gpu didnt output a 15khz frequency it would simply not work.

This is the CRT i can get my hands on right now.

I'm looking to use for both emulation and movie/anime.

[Anonymous No.5531392]

>>5531389
you don't need 15khz just to connect your pc to a crt. you'll probably have to install the right modeline and that's it.

[Anonymous No.5531396]

>>5531392
So why is everybody looking to make all these complicated conversion from hdmi to vga then vga to an arcade adaptor and then use CRTemu?

I mean if I connect my 1080 to a crt using a hdmi to rca convertor does it just display the image fine or is it a matter of retro quality?

[Anonymous No.5531409]

>>5531396
>So why is everybody looking to make all these complicated conversion from hdmi to vga then vga to an arcade adaptor and then use CRTemu?
>is it a matter of retro quality?
yes

[Anonymous No.5531496]

Downsides to get a crt with only pal/secam format?

[Anonymous No.5531507]

>>5525151
You just have to market them as the "Tv Classic"

[Anonymous No.5531513]

How do I find TV stations then how do I beg them for professional CRT monitors?

[Anonymous No.5531514]

So I had converted all my SNES over to RGB and I only game on a Megaview or XM37+ via RGB. Just bought a SNES Jr and haven't modded it yet for RGB/clean sync, wanted to see what plain old composite looked like, holy cow is it bad. Looks like I'm playing on an NES. Colors are all washed out, some sort of weird distortion/blurriness has replaced the crystal clear pixels. No more vibrant colors. I was starting to think I got suckered into some meme, but it really is a huge huge difference.

[Anonymous No.5531518]

So I had converted all my SNES Jr's over to RGB and I only game on a Megaview or XM37+ via RGB. Just bought a SNES Jr and haven't modded it yet for RGB/clean sync, wanted to see what plain old composite looked like, holy cow is it bad. Looks like I'm playing on an NES. Colors are all washed out, some sort of weird distortion/blurriness has replaced the crystal clear pixels. No more vibrant colors. I was starting to think I got suckered into some meme, but it really is a huge huge difference.

[Anonymous No.5531532]

>>5518898
Had my Megaview 29 repaired at Andalusia TV in Bensalem PA. Not cheap though, $675.

[Anonymous No.5531536]

>>5531496
I have one, it still should display pal60 so your soft/hard modded consoles should display properly(although you need RGB scart cables in most cases). 60hz/ntsc consoles will be in black&white though, unless you use chink adapter which apparently is hit or miss(I ordered one, but haven't arrived yet). But other than that I havent had any problems with mine, and picture quality is excellent too. Via service menu I even set the useless 16:9 mode to act like zoom in so that PAL stuff displays in full screen.

[Anonymous No.5531557]

Getting a PVM over a common TV crt?
pros/cons?

[Anonymous No.5531592]

>>5531557
pros:
looks fantastic, great color, crisp
likely to have multiple connections, composite, s-video, rgb, as well as resolution/15khz options
professional grade parts, shit's gonna last a while and take a beating
lots of service menu options

cons:
hard to find/expensive, a decent consumer crt could be found for a fraction of the price
a similar picture is achievable through rgb modding
might be 2sharp4u
/vr/ will tell you it's shit for retro games because it's not an authentic nostalgia shitbox

off the top of my head

[Anonymous No.5531593]

>>5529352
Kek, thanks but I think I'll pass, that's quite a drive.

[Anonymous No.5531598]

>>5531557
What >>5531592 said is correct. I dont care about "muh authentic" but I really dont like anything 16bit and prior on my pvm or bvm. They look nice color wise, but the scanlines are too thick and dark, like 100% dark scanlines on older emulators.

Honestly you can have the same or better enjoyment from a nice consumer set and sleep better knowing you didn't pay 2k for video equipment, cables, and mods. S video is legit 95% as good as the highest quality bvm.

[Anonymous No.5531623]

>>5531598
>>5531592
What do you recommend I get instead of a PVM?
And I don't want any of these 14'' or above screen.

[Anonymous No.5531628]

>>5531623
i don't know much about consumer sets, but trinitron's seem to be a regular go-tom they come in all kinds of sizes.

[Anonymous No.5531647]

>>5531507
Nah.

That would be a CRT-style case with the shittiest TN LCD stuffed into it.

[Anonymous No.5531665]

>>5531358
You will need something that does composite, that converter will work.

[Anonymous No.5531669]

>>5531389
If you're looking for PC use get a PC monitor, which use 31+kHz.

[Anonymous No.5532034]

>>5531382
They blame it on the BNC connectors they use (The ones where they can fit the capacitors under the hoods). Supposedly they could fit the capacitors in the 3d printed plug now. My guess is that they have a large stock of the old BNC connectors they want to go through before they do the updated builds.

[Anonymous No.5532278]

whats the safest and best way to clean CRT's glass screen?

[Anonymous No.5532284]

>>5532278
Glass cleaner and clean microfiber cloth or paper towels. Unplugged and off if you're fraidy.

[Anonymous No.5532343]

I did a SNES Jr mod with a 7314 board that had 100 ohm outputs and no resistors from the RGB input. I was reading the TV is expecting 75 ohms and the 100 ohm was a hack. Should I replace the 100 ohm SMDs with 75's and put 1.2k resistors on the input as suggested? Or is it not a big deal? Or should I get a new board from console 5 that has the 7316?

[Anonymous No.5532391]

Is there any way to remove scuffs that are scratched into the glass on a screen?

[Anonymous No.5532464]

>>5531557
The virgin PVM
>expensive unless you spend months awkwardly farting around on the medical and av surplus market
>high TVL count results in overly pixelated image
>probably have to settle for 19" or smaller
>RGB quality is a placebo-tier improvement over component
>looks like ass

the chad consumer TV
>still common and cheap/free, get one off your local craiglist or fb marketplace tomorrow
>coarse screen pitch makes /vr/ games look juuuuust right as the devs intended
>25" and 27" models are the sweet spot for a retro gaming display, but big-ass models are also out there
>s-video is slept on and gives great results
>plenty of old games need composite video to look correct anyway
>wide variety of colors and designs to pick from
>with service menu adjustments picture quality can be superb

the supreme being PC CRT
>hooks directly up to your GTX series GPU
>shader effects let you emulate a wide variety of CRT styles
>high resolution ability also great for PC gaming of yesteryear and today
>the choice of ascended ones who have left the need for physical media behind

[Anonymous No.5532484]

>>5531389
480i is 15khz
240p is also 15khz

are you getting it now?

[Anonymous No.5532529]

Not retro in any way, but look at GT Sport on a CRT via HDMI to S-video
Damn, I'm geting more and more addicted to CRT's and I'm wanting to hunt down and collect them.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UJcLOo6cuVw

[Anonymous No.5532560]

>>5532529
>minute long intro

[Anonymous No.5532628]

>>5532464
>PC CRT
>Sitting close
Enjoy your cataracts, gramps

[Anonymous No.5532649]

I like to use crt tv to watch retro anime from youtube using PS3

[Anonymous No.5532661]

>>5532649
Any issues with downscaling on PS3 with YouTube?

How's Bible Black look on this? :^)

[Anonymous No.5532801]

>>5532661
I prefer watching 4:3 so I dont see any issues. It looks the same as watching DVDs

[Anonymous No.5532805]

>>5532801
4:3 content*

[Anonymous No.5532862]

>>5530167
how about just cut the wires an inch after the connector and solder onto those wires? If I were to do this, How would I know where to connect each wire?

[Anonymous No.5533096]

Reminder to adjust your CRT's focus if your image is the least bit blurry. Just don't kill yourselves doing it.
Did this today with a 13" Sanyo set I coincidentally bought for $13. It wasn't that far off to begin with but that little bit of adjustment has made a huge difference in clarity. Also how can you get scratches out of CRT glass? Don't say toothpaste cause that shit doesn't work.

[Anonymous No.5533246]

>>5532278
>safest
water sprayed onto a microfiber cloth (not onto the screen), don't wipe so hard that you damage any anti-glare coating

if you use glass cleaner, don't let it soak for long

[Anonymous No.5533365]

Does anyone here know whether not this guy's 7800 s-video is for real? or does it just pass the composite signal?
https://electronicsentimentalities.com/Assembled%20Mods.html

[Anonymous No.5533421]

>>5532343
when I modded mine I didn't want to buy anything so instead of 75 ohms I just tested all my 67 ohm resistors and picked some that were above spec and matched to each other. Came out around 72 ohms if I remember correctly. And I did use the 1.2k resistors.
It all worked great, looks better than my regular old snes. Those extra amp boards that people sell are unnecessary in my opinion.

[Anonymous No.5533563]

>>5533365
I don't know about him or his stuff specifically but real S-video from a 7800 is possible if that's what you're asking.

[Anonymous No.5533574]

>toyed with the idea of hunting down a CRT TV for years but decided against it because my apartment didn't have the space for one
>move into a bigger place at the beginning of this month
>a week after moving, see one sitting out next to my neighbor's trash
Fate is real.

[Anonymous No.5533584]

>>5532862
If you decide to go the wire-splicing route, that's fine, but determining the wiring would be all up to you. Look at a standard VGA pinout and see how they line up into both the old connector and the new one. A multimeter would help, or since you're junking the old cable anyway, you could open up the cable at the plug to look at wire colors.

[Anonymous No.5533628]

>>5533563
oh good. yeah essentially that's what I wanted to know. Thanks anon.

[Anonymous No.5533810]

I'm picking up a Sony CVM soon. I'm unable to find any substantial documentation for this line. It's composite only - would like to try an RGB mod if it's feasible. Do you guys know anything about the CVM series

[Anonymous No.5533819]

>>5519048
In order to ascertain what it means, the faces need to be studied in more detail. The refraction of the light within the glasses allocates more of a particular realm and has more with time dilation that compared to the other. As to answer why, the reason remains unknown.

The corner describes another instance in which the shadow of the temple regarding the facial structure eats away at them simply. Therefore, it should be noted that despite all this, the realm of reality and fiction in which they exist cannot simply be explained with simple precautions but must be known.

Behind that, behind your vat of blood, there lies it. The God of it all demands the dragon of the golden crown to eat away at the vat of blood and feces. The God of the machinations dislikes the scripts and upon the screen of death, hates that with the passion of death. The abyss and the void of death clings onto the void of the screen. The abyss and files within the abyss cling to the vat and the refraction of the light continues to press forward onto the screen and mirror of disrepair. In order to properly contain it, the addendum of time must be added onto the dilation of the screen and exit out onto the God of machinations and the fiction must be coincided with them. The screaming and the void.
>Regarding the void

The simple equation is resulting of about a life to another. A mammal in which is equal to that of a fox equals about a human life. So, a cow with a head of a pig can thus equate to about two human lives. Therefore, you can say that the lives in the escape of the exit can see forward through the abyss and into the vat of blood and feces of about two human lives. Therefore, it should be stated that the life of a pig with the body of a cow can be seen with the lens of a pig with the body of a fox. With the abyss, it cannot be understated. Therefore, it should be with Lain instead. Inside the machinations of it, lies the fiction of the refraction of the light.

[Anonymous No.5534086]

Why use crt when retroarch shaders already look better?

[Anonymous No.5534247]

>>5534086
>GBA
>CRT
son

[Anonymous No.5534279]

>>5533810
>Do you guys know anything about the CVM series
Only that they're exceptionally rare, similarly rare to the GVM line.

[Anonymous No.5534357]

is it better that I use a HDMI to Sdi converter or should I first connect a Sdi to RCA adaptor then RCA to hdmi? in order to hook a PC to my Sony PVM?

[Anonymous No.5534526]

>>5534247
On a related note, does pic related only support an HDMI out?

[Anonymous No.5534568]

am i suppose to keep sharpness 0 or aroumd the middle on a crt?

[Anonymous No.5534574]

>>5534247
should i just play them on the 3ds? im pondering on ethier playing them on a wii conected to crt with mgba or 3ds with VC

[Anonymous No.5534580]

>>5534357
RCA is a connector type, not a data type. If you mean composite, rgb, or even component, you should always avoid that. Beside that fact that you would most likely fuck up the resolution if you don't know what you're doing, switching from digital to analog and back is silly. Since HDMI and SDI are both digital, converting between them takes the least amount of effort, basically no effort.
>>5534568
Raise sharpness until you see a 'halo effect', or a glowing outline around objects on the image. Or any amount of sharpness below that to your preference

[Anonymous No.5534764]

>>5532862
>>5533584
Here's what I got. Both cords have 12 wire connectors. On the old one, three are ground. Also, On the old cord, no matter how hard I try, I cannot find the pins for the grey and pink wires. Hopefully you guys can understand my notes. What should I do now? I have no clue what I'm doing so any help is appreciated.

[Anonymous No.5534852]

>>5533810
Anon, I'm going to need you to stop talking now.

[Anonymous No.5534937]

>>5533574
Did it have the internals removed anon? If so welcome to the neighborhood. Sorry, it was probably pretty heavy to move only to realize it was gutted.

[Anonymous No.5534941]

>>5534852
Buy cvm, great tvs, and not meme priced. Tell your favorite youtuber with your patron payment.

[Anonymous No.5535083]

Somebody at work wants to sell me a sony pvm 8044(I think it was this model) a 9'' monitor for cheap enough.

Up until now I was just used to used a component adaptor from a crt to to my laptop, it looked alright for most games and anime I watched on them at 480p.

What happens if I connect my laptop to a 240p display with no setup involving CRT emudriver or vga cards?
Is the render worth it anyway or it will look like absolute shit?

My laptop currently displays at 720p and I assume it will output 31khz at 720p.

[Anonymous No.5535087]

>>5535083
Damn autocorrector.


FROM A CRT TV TO A LAPTOP

[Anonymous No.5535114]

>>5534764
Based anon for not giving up. I don't know enough to give advice but I'm cheering you on.

[Anonymous No.5535154]

>>5535114
Thanks... it's been tempting to get a new one, especially since all of these are within a 2 hour drive. If gas wasn't $4 in Sunny California™ I would have a road trip and get all of these.

[Anonymous No.5535161]

>>5535154
the second and third from the left are the only monitors I would be interested in. the third especially

[Anonymous No.5535361]

>>5531592
>/vr/ will tell you it's shit for retro games because it's not an authentic nostalgia shitbox
>implying recreating old Genesis ads and promo shots of yore with black cube PVMs isn’t epitome of authentic nostalgia

[Anonymous No.5535367]

>>5535083
>hat happens if I connect my laptop to a 240p display with no setup involving CRT emudriver or vga cards?

It won't work at best and at worse you can damage your crt.

[Anonymous No.5535540]

>>5532284
be careful with glass cleaners, some will damage anti glare coatings.

[Anonymous No.5535542]

>>5532343
100 ohm to drop the brightness a bit works fine, not being proper 75 doesn't really matter unless you're either using super long cables or going to another device that also doesn't do proper 75

[Anonymous No.5535552]

>>5535083
If you don't do any setup you won't get working sync, most likely you'll get what kinda looks like static, if the resolution is close to a multiple of SD you may get a multiple image.

720p60 is ~45kHz. 31kHz is 480p60 (or 400p70 or 576p50)

Depending on the laptop's GPU and OS you may be able to get it to do proper 240p / 480i, through an HDMI to VGA or component dongle/box if you need it.

[Anonymous No.5535756]

>>5534937
Nope, it's literally only missing the antenna, which doesn't count for shit now terrestrial channels have gone the way of the dodo. Just needed a replacement remote so I could actually get to the AV channel. Sometimes it really does feel like the universe provides.

[Anonymous No.5535802]

>>5528637
Fucking Christ! What is this!?

[Anonymous No.5535808]

>>5528637
>>5535802
I had this happen on my nes, but it was white and in less than 5 minutes the whole picture went white. I got new power brick and now it plays properly

[Anonymous No.5535842]

>>5535802
>>5528637
might be recapping time for your tv

[Anonymous No.5536009]

got this old dumpster dived piece of shit back up and running, first time I've seen this game on a crt in almost 20 years
it's emotional

[Anonymous No.5536103]

What's the best VGA/DVI-A to HDMI adapter for a PC CRT if your graphics card doesn't support analog?

[Anonymous No.5536225]

dumb question but theoretically, what is worse for your crt's lifespan, turning it on and off frequently or just leaving it on for longer periods of time?

[Anonymous No.5536292]

>>5535842
I just recapped it

[Anonymous No.5536356]

>>5536225
Both are bad. The rule of thumb when it comes to turning on CRTs is this: Don't do it, you might mess something up.

[Anonymous No.5536409]

>>5536356

[Anonymous No.5536416]

>>5536292
go through with a multimeter and check for cold solder joints.

[Anonymous No.5536428]

>>5536225
Not a dumb question, but it's not a question with a straightforward answer, either. Too many factors are in play to say definitively one or the other.
>turning it on and off frequently or just leaving it on for longer periods of time?
It depends on just how long you plan to do so. Screensavers were a thing for a reason in the 90s, but if I'm done using it one day and I plan to use it the next, or several days afterwards, I'd turn it off. If you had reasonably detailed stats about all of the components and the instantaneous stress that a power cycle has on them and about long-term stress from constant power, you could solve it as an optimization problem in MATLAB or something.

[Anonymous No.5536442]

>>5536416
Good idea. Thanks. I'll try that sometime this week.

[Anonymous No.5536482]

>>5536225
Leave it on when you don't need it and turn it off when you do.

[Anonymous No.5536551]

Can someone explain this to me. Spelunky says in requirements that it needs 16x9 widescreen monitor and minimal resolution is 1280x720. I tried it on my crt tv and it stretched to 4x3 without any issues and looked good. How?

[Anonymous No.5536554]

>>5534574
Most gba games look like snes games and I think they look better on crts than on nds/3ds.

[Anonymous No.5536685]

Did my first CRT RGB mod to a little Zenith TV/VCR combo. Crisp yet cozy, I like it. I'll do my KV-27V42 next.

How come more people don't do this? It's so easy. I didn't even have a datasheet for the jungle chip but I still figured it out.

[Anonymous No.5536703]

>>5536685
it looks nice, quite different to the pvm image i'm used to but not in a bad way
the best word to describe it is probably 'warm', i'd like to rgb a consumer crt one day too

[Anonymous No.5536741]

>>5536703
Thanks. It doesn't come through too well in my shitty picture, but I find the balance between the graininess of a low-TVL consumer set and the clean, vibrant colors of RGB to be quite pleasing. Now I just need the remote so I can correct some of its geometry problems in the service menu.

[Anonymous No.5536769]

>>5536741
i had an old universal remote that worked perfectly when i found an old beat up crt on the side of the road. it came with a really in-depth manually for all kinds of crt types so you might have luck starting there.

[Anonymous No.5536910]

>>5536551
>looked good

[Anonymous No.5536930]

>>5536910
Yeah well on on the photo. I was drunk and my phone is old and camera is shitty and it was too bright. You know how these things are.

[Anonymous No.5536935]

>>5536930
>not in the photo

[Anonymous No.5536978]

>>5536930
Yes we know how the terminally incompetent are.

Now go and sober up.

[Anonymous No.5537125]

I try getting things to work on my Windows 10 PC, but I always have parts of the image cut off, both on desktop and when i'm emulating games fullscreened.
Stuff fits on the screen when i'm playing off real hardware, but not when I hook up my PC. Is it the converter that i'm using or does Windows 10 just not place nice with 4:3 displays?

[Anonymous No.5537141]

>>5528637
This is an impedance issue. You've got a problem either with video signal level or with the monitor.

[Anonymous No.5537163]

>>5536769
My old Samsung Galaxy S4 has an IR blaster that I can use to get into the normal menu, but so far I've been unsuccessful with the typical Zenith service menu codes, possibly because they involve holding the menu button down and the apps don't do that properly or something. I'll see if I have a usable universal remote laying around to try, but if not I'll just grab an original one off eBay.

[Anonymous No.5537665]

Is there a reason you shouldn't have two CRT TVs powered on at once when near each other? I have two 13" sets and they both get wavy images when they're both powered on. Is this a frequency issue or just general interference? is it unsafe?

[Anonymous No.5537683]

>>5537125
What kind of converter are you using?

It's normal for an SD TV to be set up to crop a bit of image off all the sides.

[Anonymous No.5537696]

>>5537665
Probably just EMI. Most CRTs are properly shielded so stuff like that isn't normally a problem. If that's it you would just want to keep them farther apart and keep magnetic storage media away from them.

[Anonymous No.5537701]

>>5537683
I use this;
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01HGDB3V8/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

It crops way more on the sides than it should as it currently is. I've played games on the actual original hardware and it doesn't crop much at all, but when I use my PC it can't help but crop the image a lot.

[Anonymous No.5537887]

>>5537141
What would I need to look for to know which one it is and maybe how to fix it?

[Anonymous No.5537910]

>>5537701
Better way to do this is with a cheap ATI card and CRT_EmuDriver.

[Anonymous No.5538002]

>>5537696
Think so? One of the sets is an older Trinitron and I think it's the one causing issues. Its flyback transformer is noticeably louder than the other set's and it's randomly had issues in the past with the image becoming wavy for a few seconds at a time. It seems really susceptible to interference even when there's very little around that should be causing it. I've had both sets apart and neither seem very well shielded. Not like a PC monitor or anything. Just the plastic cases over the tube and boards, so it's not surprising that there would be interference, just curious as to what specifically is causing it. From the looks and sounds of what I've seen of them I would guess they're just operating at frequencies they simply don't agree with, but that's just a guess. I'd honestly like to have one more set around to test and narrow down at least which set specifically is causing the issue. Pretty sure my wife's grandpa has an old CRT in storage I might have to dig out for shits n giggles.

[Anonymous No.5538021]

I have a chance to get a Mitsubishi AM-2752A for very little, but it's listed as being "For Parts Only". How hard would it be to fix?

[Anonymous No.5538083]

>>5538021
Without knowing what's actually wrong with it? A total crapshoot.

[Anonymous No.5538089]

>>5538021
>Fixing a CRT
Just don't unless you have a shit ton of experience to draw upon.

[Anonymous No.5538283]

>>5536685
this looks great, a CRT with good geometry and RGB is a thing of beauty

[Anonymous No.5538368]

>>5536685
Beautiful. Consumer sets with a clean RGB signal beats PVM's any day. That's how a game ideally should look like, pixel and dot perfect, not full of ugly giant scanlines.

[Anonymous No.5538441]

>>5538368
>not full of ugly giant scanlines.
i've seen this a lot in these threads, but i'm not sure if it's a misconception from looking at super zoomed in pictures online.
can't speak for all professional monitors, but the ones i've used don't have jarring scanlines at all, when you sit at the right distance they are quite mild.
there's an image i'm thinking of that has a really close shot of link from alttp on pvm/bvm's and the scanlines look like huge black lines, not a good representation imo.

[Anonymous No.5538778]

Stupid question, but is Playstation 2 considered retro around here?
I want to go back and relive simpler times with it. What's a good CRT TV to play this thing on?

[Anonymous No.5538867]

>>5538778
Anything that takes S video or component. I'd say PS2 benefits the most from a CRT out of any console.

[Anonymous No.5539391]

Called an electronic recycling company yesterday and he said he had a bunch of pvms and bvms and I think he mentioned projectors. What models should I look out for while I'm shopping around in there?

[Anonymous No.5539414]

>>5539391
Basically anything working that takes RGB would be worthwhile.

[Anonymous No.5539625]

I finally connected my CRT to 14'' trinitron to my laptop using a HDMI to rca adaptor.

It doesn't fit the screen, somehow the monitor doesn't display the whole desktop.
I tried switching resolution down to 600x480 4:3
It doesn't work.

What would be the issue?

[Anonymous No.5539634]

>>5538867
Thanks my dude.

[Anonymous No.5539645]

>>5539625
The TV will be set up to crop the edges a bit to hide any dodgy geometry or crap at the edges of the broadcast. Can compensate in your GPU driver settings or adjust TV in the service menu.

[Anonymous No.5539737]

How do I clean the yellowing from my PVM? its also dirty on the menu board, not really dirty but it lost its colors.

[Anonymous No.5539792]

>>5538021
There is a chance that one of the cooling fans is stuck and all you will have to do is blow it out with compressed air.

[Anonymous No.5540152]

>>5532649
what are the best retro animes i should watch

[Anonymous No.5540243]

What's the use behind getting shielded cables versus unshielded cables? Can't seem to find anything on it.

[Anonymous No.5540258]

>>5536685
I did it with a 27" sharp. Looks fuckin good. Even put a scary port in back.

[Anonymous No.5540273]

>>5540152
Look up 90s anime, that's mainly cell animation. I'm no hardcore enthusiast but dragonball, dragonball z, cowboy bebop (this is best), akira future boy conan is comfy, anything ghibli, samurai champloo, many others but again I'm not hardcore anime guy.

[Anonymous No.5540280]

>>5539391
Which electronic recycling company?

[Anonymous No.5540293]

>>5540280
Just a local recycling company. Here is their website.
https://www.rar-recycles.com/

[Anonymous No.5540315]

>>5540258
Sounds terrifying.

[Anonymous No.5540327]

>>5540243
Shielding is important for any cable but especially so for analog video which deteriorates gracefully, making it difficult to eyeball the effects easily. Without it your signal is susceptible to all kinds of interference from even just other cables around it, especially power cables. The best cables will even have thick ferrite chokes at one end to reduce EM interference further on those lines.

[Anonymous No.5540342]

Saw this in my grandparent’s garage, it was on top of some stuff so I can’t get it right now. Anyone know the model and date, and if it would be fine for different retro systems, such as the Famicom and SNES?

[Anonymous No.5540363]

>>5540342
Looks like early-mid '70s at the latest. You'll probably only have an antenna (RF) connection on it. It might not even be color. IMO it might be comfy for pre-NES consoles but I probably wouldn't use it for NES and later even if it were color.

[Anonymous No.5540537]

What's your ideal size of CRT? I have a decent 20 inch flatscreen set with component inputs but it's having a few problems so I'm eyeing a new set that's a curved screen w/ component inputs but it's also a 27 inch. I'm weighing the pros and cons in my head.

[Anonymous No.5540575]

>>5540537
Viewing distance and preferred perceived size at that distance are both important, and only you can decide on what you want.

[Anonymous No.5540634]

>>5540273
This post is infuriating, and I think you did it on purpose.

[Anonymous No.5540685]

Thoughts on RCA brand CRTs? Particularly the curved ones?

[Anonymous No.5540731]

>>5540685
I love early '90s Thomsons (ProScan, RCA, GE). My 1991 ProScan is still my favorite S-video display. They're all curved from that period, some very curved to the point of looking bulbous. At the high end their shadow masks are made of Invar, which helps keep geometry good even at high brightness/temperature. If you find one made in the US especially, you're quite lucky. Most will need to be recapped by now though.

[Anonymous No.5540928]

Is it better to get a CRT using the AV cables for a PS2, or get component cables for a HDTV?

[Anonymous No.5540934]

>>5540928
Why not a CRT using component cables?

[Anonymous No.5540935]

>>5540934
Would that look better than either of them?

[Anonymous No.5541131]

>>5540935
Yes, actually

[Anonymous No.5541280]

>>5540928
PS2 games run in 480i 95% of the time anyways.

[Anonymous No.5541321]

>>5540634
Swear to God I'm not trolling. I said I'm not some expert. What are better recommendations? I'm a doesn't really like most anime but watches some guy.

[Anonymous No.5541347]

>>5540152
Watch GI Joe, Transformers, and Thundercats instead

[Anonymous No.5541573]

>>5541321
It's because people like you always think you know about anime when you don't. This is the first time on this god forsaken site I've seen one of you people actually admit they don't know what they're talking about. Saying Cowboy Bebop is the best is just plain nonsense, and most people would even see it as bait. Also animation cels are called cels with one l, because it's technically a celluloid. The post just screamed bait but here on /vr/ I'll give you the benefit of the doubt.
Watch SPT Layzner and VOTOMS

[Anonymous No.5541594]

>>5541321
These are mostly overly-safe, no-taste recommendations. Not that they're bad anime, per se, but that there is so little personality behind these recommendations that there's hardly any point in posting them. That guy would get 90% of the exact same anime on 10,000 other "ToP tEn aNiMe oF aLL TiME!!1" lists. Future Boy Conan is a good rec, though, I can't fault you for that one.
I'll rewrite your post in the context of /vr/, so you can see why I thought it was a shitpost:
>Look up 90s games, that's mainly pixel art. I'm no harcore enthusiast but mario, mario 2, ocarina of time (this is the best game), Final Fantasy 7, anything Nintendo, Super M
Breaking the greentext here to say you get points for saying Future Boy Conan.
ario Sunshine (i.e. Samurai Champloo, because it is not retro, nor is it close, or even mistakable for being retro in its stylings or production), many others but again I'm not a hardcore retro guy.

>>5540152
>animes
>s
pic related.
Anyway, the 08th MS Team, Gunsmith Cats, Riding Bean, Urusei Yatsura, Yokohama Kaidashi Kikou, Shoubaku(if you speak Japanese), Gunbuster, Neo Tokyo, and Memories are all good.

[Anonymous No.5541612]

>>5541573
>It's because people like you always think you know about anime when you don't.
THANK YOU. You beat me by a few minutes while I was writing >>5541594, and I intended to comment on "cells" but forgot.
Good picks, btw

[Anonymous No.5541613]

>>5541594
>Gundamshit
>Good
Apart from that good post

[Anonymous No.5541626]

>>5541613
>>Gundamshit
>>Good
While I concede that the majority of Gundumb is a cash-grab snoozefest, I like 08th MS Team. It's the most "real-robots" entry in all of Gundam. Think Vietnam War but with mechs. If that sounds good you'll have a good time.
>Apart from that good post
pic

[Anonymous No.5541632]

>>5541626
Do I need to see UC before 08th MS Team? That's the main thing I have against Gunda,. I tried watching 0079 and I literally fell asleep

[Anonymous No.5541636]

>>5541632
You don't HAVE to, but it would add to the experience. Just watch the recap movies if you're concerned about the backstory.

[Anonymous No.5541693]

>>5541573
>>5541594
>>5541612

Thanks for the recs. I admitted I don't know shit, just saying things I enjoyed, tasteless or not , I did personally like them. As for cels vs cells, I was phone posting at work and missed an auto correct.

Again, thanks I'll check out some of your recommendations because I clearly am not up to speed on anime.

[Anonymous No.5542130]

>>5540280
Nice try trying to snag those 20" pvms Anon but it's too late!

Holy shit though. They had three functioning 14" Sony pvm. Several remotes for bvms, a whole pallet of bvm a-series ( no RGB cards I checked), a couple of 8" ikegemi monitors(V&a in and s-video only), and even more that they hadn't pulled out yet. Plus a bunch of consoles for dirt cheap.
I think I might grab an ikegemi for shits and giggles now that I think about it.

[Anonymous No.5542205]

I moved my Sony pvm 2530 from the floor onto the a table last night. When I turned it on about 10 seconds later a white line flashed in the middle of the screen. I didn’t have any problems after except my s-video cable for ps2 will only show black and white. I think I must have damaged the s-video cable by stepping on it but just worth mentioning. I had no problems getting composite to work on the n64 and the color seemed fine. Should I be worried about the white flash?

[Anonymous No.5542229]

>>5541594
>Gunsmith Cats, Riding Bean,
Only two out of those bunch i've watched, both really well-animated, fun short OVAs.
I took a break from watching retro anime because I hit a point where I felt like I was starting to scrape the bottom of the barrel and running out of good ones to watch.

You gotta pace yourself with watching everything otherwise you'll run out of quality retro anime.

[Anonymous No.5542528]

>>5542229
There's far more of it than you might think, especially if you're open to long-form series. Now, running out of quality 80s OVAs, that's a realistic issue.

[Anonymous No.5542548]

Can you identify this monitor for me, please?

[Anonymous No.5542884]

Nobody knows?

[Anonymous No.5542907]

>>5542548
ah yes I can tell by the perfectly symmetrical placement of the lights that it's a how the fuck are we supposed to identify a fucking silhouette you dingus

[Anonymous No.5543254]

>>5520207
>>5528243
>>5534764

>>5535114

Operation Successful! The Patient is Saved!

[Anonymous No.5543646]

>>5541573
>It's because people like you always think you know about anime when you don't.
>>5541594
>These are mostly overly-safe, no-taste recommendations.

These posts are so much more annoying than the plebbiest of pleb posts I've ever read about anime, kys you're selfs.

[Anonymous No.5543795]

>>5541573
>It's because people like you always think you know about anime when you don't.

[Anonymous No.5543870]

>>5543254
Great job, anon. Enjoy the monitor!

[spookyelectrik No.5543919]

https://cincinnati.craigslist.org/vgm/d/independence-multiple-pvm-monitors-for/6844570964.html

only one sold still 2 for sale 1 20" left

[Anonymous No.5544017]

I don't know much about computer CRT monitors. Are any of these worth rescuing from recycling?

MGC -770BG 17’’ Color monitor

Magnavox MegaScan /20

Sony CPD- 15SX1

Sony CPD 200SF TRINITRON Color Computer Display

[Anonymous No.5544038]

>>5544017
Couldn't tell you about the Magnavox but the Sonys are definitely worth saving. Neither are good for modern games but both would be great for Dreamcast or emulation.

[Anonymous No.5544039]

>>5544017
Both of the Sonys

[Anonymous No.5544058]

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Hitachi-Superscan-753-19-CRT-Computer-Monitor-w-Cables/173868603191?hash=item287b605737:g:vMcAAOSwUf9crZYs&frcectupt=true

[Anonymous No.5544110]

>>5543919
Would you ever ship or is this for locals only?

[Anonymous No.5544121]

>>5543254
Nice job anon. Did you put a new external sheath around the wires?

[Anonymous No.5544206]

>>5544038
>>5544039
I had the feeling those might be good. I'll rescue them and see if I can find them a good home.
Why aren't electronic recycling companies at the top of the guide? I'm having a ton of luck with them.

[Anonymous No.5544516]

>>5544121
No, the old cord didn't really have any. I could always wrap it in electrical tape if I needed too.

[Anonymous No.5544772]

Any recommendations on a universal remote? I'm wanting one to access the service menu so I need one with a sleep button.

[Anonymous No.5544834]

Can I get an estimate pricing for a bvm 14e5u?
Is it a good pvm? I already have a bvm 1311

[Anonymous No.5544839]

>>5544834
is it a good bvm* my bad

[Anonymous No.5544882]

>>5544516
>No, the old cord didn't really have any.
Oh, alright then.

[Anonymous No.5545023]

>>5518845
just found this at my local thrift store for 26$,would I be able to play a 80GB phat PS3 on it?

I already have a working PS2 AV cable hooked up & the picture quality is great the dvd player actually still alive & kicking

[Anonymous No.5545140]

>>5545023
If you're using S-Video or composite, yes. Although it'll only output 480i, so emulation won't be accurate to the original resolution.

[Anonymous No.5545146]

>>5538867
not that anon but what's the difference between all this component vs composite talk?

I've always just used the old "red white and yellow" cables for my PS2 & the picture quility came out just fine?

I don't even want to ask what's the deal with S-video

[Anonymous No.5545214]

>>5545146
Please leave immediately. Zoomers are not welcome here.

[Anonymous No.5545271]

[Anonymous No.5545276]

>>5536103
this

[Anonymous No.5545375]

>>5545146
how did you end up here whilst still knowing so little? I'm genuinely curious.
If you really want an answer go watch my life in gaming or something

[Anonymous No.5545469]

>>5545140
>Although it'll only output 480i, so emulation won't be accurate to the original resolution.
Depends on what you're trying to emulate. Retroarch on PS3 outputs 240p just fine.

[Anonymous No.5545472]

>>5545469
Really? I thought the PS3 couldn't output 240p due to its hardware. Would you be able to play PS1 games at original res that way?

[Anonymous No.5545548]

>>5545472
>>5545140
Im pretty sure ps3(and psp too) outputs ps1 games at native resolution, at least to me it looks great and good as the original, you just need to adjust settings an little(smoothing is enabled by default).
>>5545023
yeah, you just need to set settings to output to AV output, if you dont get picture hold the power button down until you hear beep and release, wait an bit and you should get picture(this restarts video settings)

[Anonymous No.5545580]

>>5545472
AFAIK the PS3 does not run PS1 cores in Retroarch
>>5545548
>Im pretty sure ps3(and psp too) outputs ps1 games at native resolution
The PS3 does not, it only outputs 480i or higher for PS1.

[Anonymous No.5545593]

What's the most I should pay for one of these? Will more bros want to smash if they see I have it?

[Anonymous No.5545609]

>>5545548
>>5545580
In addition to the forced 480i issue with analog cables, it should also be remembered that PS3 also has scaler lag with PS1 games on HDMI because it won't do 240p or 480i on HDMI. It's why PS2 is still the preferred hardware for compatible (most) PS1 games.

[Anonymous No.5545735]

>>5536554
They would look better on a native 160p LED screen or MicroLED screen.

GBA games look weird with scanlines.

[Anonymous No.5545806]

>>5545593
I despise playing smash on tiny tubes. 36 inch or better

[Anonymous No.5546005]

How much is Sony PVM-14m2u worth? found one locally but the guy has no idea how much its worth.

pic not related

[Anonymous No.5546073]

You guys can probably help me. I don't own a TV of any kind and I don't want to. I'm currently resident so I've had to change living arrangements for med school, residency, and now fellowship and most likely after that as well.
My needs have generally been meet with handhelds and a business laptops, but I have a bit more free time now and I really want to replay some PS2 shit. To my dismay after fucking over a decade a half, some games still emulate like shit on top end PCs, let alone an ivy bridge thinkpad, so I need to actually use real hardware to play ace combat.
The problem is I have nothing to output a PS2 to. The only PsOne like solution I could find for the fat (fuck overpaying for 17 year old disks) is pic related, which is a laughable 5 fucking inch screen using 2002 tier TN eye cancer, I'm blind enough no thank you.
So what do I do? I thought of buying a cheap TV/monitor but it's a complete waste of money because I would need to throw it out and it would only get like 20 hours total, since most of my favorite PS2 games have portable versions now.

I vaguely remember that those shitty portable DVD players could take an input, would that work without much hassle or daisy chaining 20 adaptors and converters? Would the image be at least semi-decent? If so, have any of you guys tried that?

[Anonymous No.5546086]

>>5546073
Your best bet imo would be getting one of those new-fangled portable monitors. I believe they only take HDMI but you could take it wherever and also use it with your laptop, and two screens is nice for lots of workflows. PS2->HDMI adapters exist and some of them work okay but I couldn't tell you more.

[Anonymous No.5546094]

>>5546086
>PS2->HDMI adapters exist and some of them work okay but I couldn't tell you more.
you mean the ones on amazon for like $15 bucks?
They seem to have input lag issues from what I've read.
I really like the idea of mounting one of those laptop style players to the PS2 with maybe velcro or something and having a portable PS2 that I can just toss into a bag when I have to move and use it on my lap etc. I just don't know if they can actually take input.

[Anonymous No.5546110]

>>5546094
Yeah those ones. I believe there are actually two models with identical cases, one of which works quite well.
In any case, the god awful TN on any of those portable DVD players is going to look far worse and have far more input lag than a modern, good quality panel taking a converted input. Added to that the DVD players tend to only have composite input which just looks terribad on any LCD.

[Anonymous No.5546449]

>>5518845
I just found my old Samsung SyncMaster 753DF. Hooked it up and it works fine, but somehow it feels very much like an LCD compared to my TV of the same size.
Are there any large differences between CRT TV and CRT Monitors? Why might this not have the same nostalgic aesthetic as old TVs?

[Anonymous No.5546501]

>>5546449
>somehow it feels very much like an LCD compared to my TV of the same size.
Being a flatscreen it probably uses the same sort of digital processing as your LCD. Most flat CRTs are pretty undesirable because of this.

[Anonymous No.5546532]

>>5546501
Thats a crt monitor. Only crt hd TVs suffer from that.

[Anonymous No.5546538]

>look on amazon for vga to hdmi/DisplayPort adapters
>they all use the same chink RAMDAC that only supports 1080p60hz and below

What adapter do you guys use?

[Anonymous No.5546597]

Does anyone know what this thing on the back of my CRTV does?

Another question. I picked up another CRTV from the side of the road and when I plug it in, it doesn't turn on and it keeps making this click sound every 4 seconds. What's happening inside and how do I fix it?

[Anonymous No.5546607]

>>5546597
>Does anyone know what this thing on the back of my CRTV does?
Its place to hold antenna, some crt's has detachable ones

[Anonymous No.5546617]

>>5546597
>I picked up another CRTV from the side of the road and when I plug it in, it doesn't turn on and it keeps making this click sound every 4 seconds. What's happening inside and how do I fix it?
Either source a dedicated CRT repair business nearby or throw it away. I strongly discourage you from trying to repair the internals of a CRT TV unless you have extensive experience with it, since cathode ray tubes are essentially huge capacitors and lethal voltages lurk inside the case even when unplugged. Don't go rooting around in there if you have even the slightest doubt about your ability, because it could kill you.

[Anonymous No.5546623]

Name a more aesthetic game than this. I'll wait

[Anonymous No.5546630]

>>5546623
If you factor sound design into it, Tekken 2. The graphics on a CRT plus the soundtrack is flawlessly representative of the mid-90s in every respect.

[Anonymous No.5546647]

>>5525047
>640x480 interlaced would be the first place I would check
I can test it but i can't get 480i to appear in the Resolution list (Nvidia Control Panel), 240p works fine

[Anonymous No.5546882]

>>5546630
The character models and backgrounds are nowhere as clean as in VF. Also music is lot better in VF

[Anonymous No.5546895]

>>5546882
Sure, but it's not Tekken 2.

[Anonymous No.5546937]

I'm new to this CRT thing, I'm using the Sony Trinitron I've had since I was a kid, any suggestions on what I can improve or upgrade to? I'm running on S-sideo with an S-video/RGB modded SNES mini

[Anonymous No.5546948]

>>5546937
Jeez why is that so fuzzy? I've never seen a Trinitron so fuzzy. What model no.?

[Anonymous No.5546959]

>>5546948

[Anonymous No.5546965]

>>5546959
A set like that really should look fuzzy. In my experience they have relatively thick scanlines at decent colours even. Are you sure the cable is any good? Maybe try taking a better picture?

[Anonymous No.5546971]

>>5546959
I don't have a way to change the settings, the remote is long gone.

[Anonymous No.5546981]

>>5546971
ez way to improve the settings would be to buy a replacement remote and adjust the picture the normal way tbqh

[Anonymous No.5546989]

>>5546971
Any Sony TV remote will work with it.

[Anonymous No.5547009]

>>5518971
Composite? No
Component/YPbPr? Yes
That is how I have my PS2 set up and I don't have any issues with lag.
Check the manual for your TV for a better idea of how to get the best performance out of SD content.

[Anonymous No.5547016]

So I'm trying too hook up my pc to my pvm using this cable and CRT emudriver 2.0.
I get a picture but it's purple and rolling vertically.
I assume it has to do with the sync. Did I buy the wrong cable or am I doing something wrong?

[Anonymous No.5547018]

>>5546501
Flatness has nothing to do with that on any kind of CRT, not even as a coincidence since there are loads of flat TVs that aren't HD.

[Anonymous No.5547031]

>>5546597
Your first and second paragraphs are pretty scary to take in combination, anon. I'll second the advice not to poke around in there.

[Anonymous No.5547048]

[Anonymous No.5547093]

Just a recent shot I took.

27FS320, TG16 with composite out. I swear the TG16B has the best composite signal of all consoles.

[Anonymous No.5547112]

>>5547016
Computers generally don't put out a composite sync signal. Don't know how that is wired for but vga from your computer is pinned for rgbhv rather than rgbs.

[Anonymous No.5547121]

>>5547093
I would argue the PS1 has the best composite but that sure is a mighty sharp image.

[Anonymous No.5547129]

>>5547112
It seems that emudriver now comes with a csync feature, but it did nothing when I enabled it.
I feel like I should've bought a 5-BNC and combined the H and V cables. Maybe I'll just get a cheap HDMI to component converter and be done with this.

[Anonymous No.5547152]

>>5547129
Do you know how the cable is wired? What pin does it tap the sync from

[Anonymous No.5547206]

>>5547152
dunno, but the sync cable is grey so since it refuses to work even with csync, I assume it's H sync only? Is there anything I can do about this or should I just buy a 5 BNC cable?

[Anonymous No.5547301]

>>5547206
Fuck this shit, I'm gonna open up this nigga and combine the sync signals myself

[Anonymous No.5547308]

>>5547129
What cable and monitor are you using?

AFAIK 300 series cards aren't supported for csync with emudriver.

[Anonymous No.5547309]

>>5547308
HD7650M

[Anonymous No.5547314]

>>5547308
ahh sorry, that photo is just something I found on the internet to show the options.
The actual monitor is an Ikegami tm10-16r
video card is HD7650M

[Anonymous No.5547316]

I picked up a JVC D Series TV but it apparently has two noticeable quirks. The first one is that near the top of it, there's a line that's brighter than the rest of the screen at the point above. The second one is that the picture seem to distort sometimes based on what's being displayed. Anybody have any experience with these sorts of issues? Also not the best picture but this is it.

[Anonymous No.5547320]

Alright, how should I go about calibrating this? Aside from it being crooked, do you guys see any other glaring issues?
I've seen that calibration test suite many times, but never actually researched it. Should I use it?
I've also tested the image with FF6, but that game in particular seems to have its own issues.

[Anonymous No.5547549]

>>5546623
>implying it's not pic/related

it's like apples & oranges anon,although honestly DOA II & Virtua Fighter IV are great too

[Anonymous No.5547559]

>>5547320
Look up the service manual for your model. The picture settings in that are going to be the best you can get without instruments.

[Anonymous No.5547571]

>>5547549
if you were trying to stay retro, you spoilered the wrong game there

[Anonymous No.5547601]

>>5547559
Yeah I have experience with the service menu, I was more so hoping for some more specific pointers for my situation.

[Anonymous No.5547636]

>>5519048
You seem to know your shit. Would you take composite to a decent crt over component to an hdtv?

[Anonymous No.5547649]

>>5547636
SD consoles will always look like shit in HDTVs, even in the best scenario, which I'd say is the OG Xbox through component, it would look only decent. Anything other than a CRT is not optimal.

[Anonymous No.5547671]

>>5545023
I have the same set which I got for free. Honestly not sure I would have paid for one though. It is a neat set anyways, especially if you have lots of DVDs.

[Anonymous No.5547686]

>>5547649
Yeah when I adjust a new CRT I usually pass through to my plasma for a reference point. Good way to quickly weed out old sets with shitty colours.

[Anonymous No.5547718]

>>5547686
>Yeah when I adjust a new CRT I usually pass through to my plasma for a reference point.
Good idea if you have a properly calibrated set.
>Good way to quickly weed out old sets with shitty colours.
Most of the time that can be adjusted. Some of the older sets you may have to open and turn some pots but I've yet to run into a CRT I would actually describe as having shitty color after giving some attention.

[Anonymous No.5547738]

>>5547316
>The first one is that near the top of it, there's a line that's brighter than the rest of the screen at the point above.
No idea what this is.
>The second one is that the picture seem to distort sometimes based on what's being displayed.
Common problem among consumer sets. You'd really need some sort of quality monitor with a better power supply than what's found in consumer sets to not get that. Images usually distort when there's a lot of bright white on screen. You can dial the distortion back a bit by turning contrast down. Alternatively (and I don't recommend you do this) there's likely some sort of Image Value or Sub Contrast potentiometer (if there's no sub contrast setting in your service menu) on the inside you could adjust to alleviate it a bit. Obviously the trade off is a dimmer image with less distortion.

[Anonymous No.5547741]

>>5546501
>it probably
No, it doesn't. And if you had any clue at all you'd know that.

It looks closer to an LCD to anon because it's RGB and has a fine pitch.
Lurk moar and stop replying to things you know little about.

[Anonymous No.5547848]

Jut went to a video game exhibit with a cutie and the Druaga cabinet's CRT was doing the wave. What causes this? I also played Asteroids and it was amazing

[Anonymous No.5547852]

>>5547093
>. I swear the TG16B has the best composite signal of all consoles.

TG-16B?
Are there TG-16A and TG-16C models are well?

[Anonymous No.5547884]

>>5547852
He's probably referring to the Booster. Not something I'd abbreviate either if so, but eh

[Anonymous No.5547919]

>>5547314
Ye, I think at minimum you'd need a 5 BNC cable + T connector, if the monitor's still not liking it maybe need an Extron interface box.

[Anonymous No.5548002]

>>5547848
Either interference or the horizontal frequency needs adjusted

[Anonymous No.5548129]

Does anyone in this thread own an OLED?
Have you tried CRT shaders on it?

[Anonymous No.5548130]

>>5547093
>I swear the TG16B has the best composite signal of all consoles.
That title belongs to the gamecube, but yes that looks very good.

[Anonymous No.5548131]

>>5546623
What CRT is this?

[Anonymous No.5548134]

>>5548131
Phillips 14pv211

[Anonymous No.5548180]

[Anonymous No.5548273]

Almost got my shader adjusted perfectly, but it's missing something.

[Anonymous No.5548279]

>>5518845
Almost have my shader adjusted perfectly, but something is still a bit off.

[Anonymous No.5548671]

>>5543646
>>5543795
t. the exact normalfag who seethes at "moeshit"

[Anonymous No.5548695]

>>5548180
have some oc I made yesterday

[Anonymous No.5548704]

attn seething moeshitter, please find somewhere else to be retarded about anime instead of the crt thread

[Anonymous No.5549134]

>>5540152
Legend of the Galactic Heroes

[Anonymous No.5549620]

Rate my Samsung CB-15N112T.

[Anonymous No.5549639]

Anybody have an opinion on the Sony GDM-F500R? Able to pick one up for cheap. Should I go for it?

[Anonymous No.5549646]

R8

[Anonymous No.5549864]

>>5548671
wrong, you just sound like a moron who takes anime way too seriously

>>5549620
cute

[Anonymous No.5549882]

>>5549646
>Three different DVD players
Why the redundancy?

[Anonymous No.5549893]

Apart from Sony, any general recommendations on good consumer brands to keep an eye out for? Pickings for professional monitors around here are slim to nonexistent it seems.

[Anonymous No.5549954]

>>5549893
I like JVC and Panasonic TVs

[Anonymous No.5550072]

>>5549864
I can hear the C I T Y P O P through this image.

[Anonymous No.5550081]

>>5549893
Sharp are pretty great but not echo chamber circle jerked here on /vr/eddit.

[Anonymous No.5551259]

>found CRT on the roadside
>works perfectly except the picture is slightly too small
>spend hours trying to find the service manual
>finally find it and immediately see the parts I'd need to adjust to fix the picture
>everything I can find on CRT adjustment tells you not to do it yourself because you'll fucking die
>CRT repair is a dead industry
Fuck my life, I guess.

[Anonymous No.5551373]

Does anyone here have any experience with Sony PVM 1444QM?

Found a guy that is willing to send me one he has for a good price. Is it nice for retro gaming? Anything I need to think about?

[Anonymous No.5551387]

>>5551259
>finally find it and immediately see the parts I'd need to adjust to fix the picture
Is it potentiometers on the board? If so you could honestly get away with adjusting those providing you use plastic service tools and don't fucking touch anything.

[Anonymous No.5551620]

>>5551373
I have a PVM 1440QM, which seems to be of the same series. It can't do PAL60 but other than that's it's fine.

[Anonymous No.5551654]

>>5520452
That would the Sony GDM-FW900. Literally the Trinitron of PC monitors.

You can still find them refurbished for a small fortune... Man I really miss mine. Got a refurb a decade ago (much cheaper then) but unfortunately it conked out after a few years. Great colour gamut (for the time), proper blacks. Was a beast.

[Anonymous No.5551671]

>>5540152
Unironically, Sailor Moon.

[Anonymous No.5551720]

>>5551620
Fuck. I live in EU so that might actually be a legitimate problem of mine. My plan was to play Gamecube on it as well.

[Anonymous No.5551737]

>>5551720
If you're going to use RGB it won't matter.

[Anonymous No.5551890]

>>5551654
Great monitor but overkill for DOS games

>>5520452
Honestly most VGA monitors that still work will be more than enough to get the job done, and you don't have to stick to Trinitrons either unless there's something specific about them that you like

[Anonymous No.5552117]

Should I keep the "aperture" knob all the way down or what? What does it do exactly?

[Anonymous No.5552261]

>>5552117
it's a sharpening filter. Turning it a little up can be nice.

[Anonymous No.5552290]

>>5551387
I assume it's a potentiometer, but I can't say for sure. My electronics knowledge is passing at best, and I'm honestly too apprehensive to open the damn thing now I've read all these horror stories.

[Anonymous No.5552408]

>>5552290
Yeah, if you're not sure exactly what it is you're gonna be fucking with before you open it, and if you're nervous about it then don't. The horror stories are real, CRTs should be feared and respected. I've suffered a shock before in the past working on them myself and I was extremely lucky it wasn't any worse than it was. I hate opening these things to adjust anything and these days and I generally don't unless the problem is really severe and the fix is something obvious, but if it's just a shitty consumer set anyway I don't bother. If I'm going to risk my life in any way by opening CRTs, it's gonna be some sort of quality monitor at least.

[Anonymous No.5552529]

Got a broken CRT off ebay (guess a hundred bucks wasn't good enough for shipping, even though the guy put it in a cute form fit cardboard box, there was basically no padding) and trying to fix the massive color purity problems cracked the case open (shards of plastic scattered across the floor) and with my trusty screwdriver started goin' pokey pokey on the little knobs. Cranked that sucker up to the maximum but still wasn't good enough so I pulled a magnet off my refrigerator and slapped it right on the tube. Finally that worked. But now it makes boing and crackle sounds that shake and blur the image so I put it to the side. GDM-520P (137 kHz) if anyone's wondering. Consider that another ultra high end trinitron taken out of circulation: another one bites the dust.

[Anonymous No.5552592]

>>5551737
Thanks for telling me. Then I will get it.

[Anonymous No.5552908]

>>5548180
Model?

[Anonymous No.5553294]

>>5552529
Moral of the story is to never buy any CRT that you can't pick up locally.

[Anonymous No.5554189]

>>5553294
this I actually have ato luge around a 26 inch around town to get it back towards me house,my arms are still bruised after five days ;_;

[Kya !kDashing02 No.5554374]

>>5523797
Sorry, somehow missed this; It's a PVM-20L5. I'll post a couple photos in the next thread. Any game in particular you'd like to see?

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>>5554369