/vr/ - Retro Games

[Anonymous No.5513295]

I've never played a single Saturn game in my life. This needs to be fixed. Recommend some of your favorites to get me started. Any genre is fine. JP-only games, too.

[Anonymous No.5513304]

>>5513295
Are you fine with multiplats? Or exclusives only?

[Anonymous No.5513306]

>>5513295
Nights into Dreams
Daytona USA
Sega Rally
Panzer Dragoon 1 or 2
Virtual on

[Anonymous No.5513308]

>>5513304
Anything goes. If I have played it on some other system, I might still skip it though.

[Anonymous No.5513310]

>>5513295
Are you looking to emulate or use actual hardware? That would make a big difference in reccomendations because Saturn emulation is still somewhat shoddy, and as far as purchasing games goes, much of the library is insanely expensive.

[Anonymous No.5513314]

>>5513308
Saturn ports are just about always superior to PS1 aside from a couple instances like the Donpachi games

[Anonymous No.5513316]

>>5513310
The solution is to buy a $13 modchip and a $50 used Saturn + 3D controller. People exaggerate how supposedly expensive getting a Saturn rig is.

[Anonymous No.5513323]

>>5513314
Lol I have never seen such a load of bullshit on this board.

[Anonymous No.5513324]

>>5513295
Elevator Action Returns

[Anonymous No.5513325]

>>5513295
Langrisser III-V
Panzer Dragoon Saga

[Anonymous No.5513337]

>>5513323
Well I was specifically referring to 2D games. Guess I should have mentioned that.

[Anonymous No.5513339]

>>5513308
Dragonball Z The Legend
Guardian Heroes
D
Enemy Zero
House of the Dead
Deep Fear
Resident Evil
Panzer Dragoon 1, 2, & Saga
Die Hard Arcade
Parodius
Rayman
Silhouette Mirage
Shining Force 3
Wipeout 2097

[Anonymous No.5513410]

Daytona USA Champ (Preferably JP since it has original arcade music)
Asuka Burning fest
Vampire Savior
Any Marvel licensed Capcom game
Guardian Heroes
Elevator Action Returns
Darius Gaiden
Rayforce/Gunlock/Galatic Attack
Metal Black
Street Fighter Alpha Series
Real Bout Fatal Fury
Panzer Dragoon Trilogy
NIGHTS into DREAMS
Sonic R (hit and Miss)
Fighters Megamix
VF 2 and Remix
Radiant Silvergun
Battle Garegga
Batsugun
Grandia (Finally finishing their English patch I hear)
Shining Force III

[Anonymous No.5513482]

>>5513410
Sonic R is unironically based

[Anonymous No.5513539]

>>5513295
>NiGHTs
>Sega Rally
>Panzer Dragoon 1, 2 and Saga
>Radiant Silvergun (either use SSF's mesh to true transparencies or get the 360 version because it's full of disgusting mesh transparencies)
>Die hard arcade
>Virtua fighter 2
>Sonic Jam (Mario all stars but it's sonic instead)
>Daytona USA (not the original edition cause that has a shit framerate)
>Elevator Action Returns
>Sega AGES
>Castlevania Symphony of the night (the graphics are a bit of a downgrade from PS1 but it makes up with an extra character)
Temping, but a waste of time:
>Virtua racing Saturn (graphics might be better than 32X but gameplay and content sucks)

[Anonymous No.5513541]

>>5513539
*(either use SSF's mesh to true transparencies or get the 360 version because the Saturn version is full of disgusting mesh transparencies)

[Anonymous No.5513551]

>>5513323
I unironically prefer the look of Saturn Tomb Raider to the PSX. And people forget that at the game's launch the Saturn version had better lighting, since it took a hardware revision for the PSX's gouraud to not look like total ass.

[Anonymous No.5513553]

>>5513541
Cry more

[Anonymous No.5513561]

>>5513551
It looks shittier, darker, and grungier in every fucking way. It also runs twice as poorly.

[Anonymous No.5513563]

Baku Baku

[Anonymous No.5513565]

>>5513325
are the saturn ports for this even translated?

[Anonymous No.5513572]

>>5513295
Literally anything made by CAPCOM on the Saturn is gold.

[Anonymous No.5513574]

If you like shmups, you should play Soukyugurentai (preferably with the 3D Pad), Guardian Force, and Radiant Silvergun.

[Anonymous No.5513576]

>>5513561
>inside a cave
>WTF WHY IS IT DARK

[Anonymous No.5513582]

>>5513561
Also good job ignoring what I was talking about. The texture gradients on will be posterized as fuck on a launch PSX.

[Anonymous No.5513586]

>>5513553
What am I crying about?

[Anonymous No.5513604]

>>5513582
The Saturn version's textures...

[Anonymous No.5513608]

>>5513604
...are so inferior to the PSX version's that the light gradient issue on early model PSX models is irrelevant. Especially considering that the problem was fixed by 1997.

[Anonymous No.5513609]

>>5513295
Rayman
Theme park
Alien trilogy
Clockwork knight

[Anonymous No.5513613]

>>5513604
...are so inferior to the PSX version's that the light gradient issue on early model PSX models is irrelevant. Especially considering that the problem was fixed by 1997.

[Anonymous No.5513616]

>>5513604
>>5513613
based sony always wins babey

[Anonymous No.5513627]

>>5513295
astal, time crisis and nights into dreams are some of my favs. I've heard some great things about the panzer dragoon saturn games too but never played them.

[Anonymous No.5513628]

>>5513295
There you go anon

Amok
Baku Baku
Black Fire
Enemy Zero
Mass Destruction
Firestorm Thunderhawk
The Horde
Resident Evil
Iron Storm
Dark Savior
Powerslave
Robotica
Mystaria
Die Hard Arcade
Shellshock
Loaded
Lunacy
D
Deep Fear
Shinobi Legions
Sonic R
Akumajou Dracula X
Airs Adventure
Elevator Action Returns 2
Radiant Silvergun

[Anonymous No.5513634]

>>5513613
>>5513604

[Anonymous No.5513707]

Tomb Raider
Resident Evil
Sonic Jam
Sonic 3D
Torico/Lunacy (expensive but cool if you like adventure games)
Fighters Megamix
Alien Trilogy

[Anonymous No.5513731]

for me the absolute best is Dragon Force.

But you will also have a great time with Deep Fear, Bulk Slash or Dark Savior (even if this one is hated by some Landstalker fans, I think it's good). If you're into adventure games, Torico is great too. And obviously all the arcade ports (vf2, last bronx, sega rally...). oh and some original 2d fighters like groove on fight

[Anonymous No.5514020]

>>5513627
>time crisis
wrong console buddy

[Anonymous No.5514046]

>>5513613
>>5513604
I like how the Saturn one looks more. But it's personal preference.

[Anonymous No.5514142]

>>5513295
here's my shortlist, even if some has been ported elsewhere
all of these are excellent
>Bulk Slash (really fun 3D mech shooter, no ports)
>NiGHTS (look up a video of how to play beforehand; very pretty game; has a PS2 and PC release)
>Panzer Dragoon Zwei (fantastic flying rail shooter, no ports)
>Sega Rally (excellent port from arcade -- there's also a JP PS2 Sega Ages release that's a direct port of the arcade and an old PC release that's a port of the Saturn release)
>Soukyugurentai (cool multi-layer shoot-em-up with lots of scaling and the lot; has a PS1 port but it was made for Saturn hardware first and runs better -- take note that the original JP Saturn release will fuck up if booted on a US Saturn and try to run an incomplete localization, there's a later budget revision of the game that does work properly, so burn that one)
>Radiant Silvergun (very stylish shoot-em-up full of bosses; there's an XBLA port that changes some things and supposedly has some noticeable input lag, so play this on Saturn)

also, here's some assorted stuff that's interesting
some of it isn't good, but it's still interesting
>Wipeout (very, very different and more forgiving collisions from PS1, different soundtrack)
>Galactic Attack (aka RayForce, ex)
>Sonic R (game blows overall, but if we're talking best looking Saturn games, I'd posit that it's the best looking 3D Saturn game)
>Ninpen Manmaru (somewhat rough 3D platformer that starts off easy and then jumps into obnoxious precision platforming with the controls that would be okay if they didn't keep fucking up out of nowhere)
>Burning Rangers (you're a cool future firefighter; the game is rather pretty, except for the fact that it's basically made of polygon flicker, has mildly okay controls, shame about the fact that there's only 4 levels; no ports)
>Sonic Jam (the ports of each game aren't that good with weird sound and there's inexplicable slowdown in Sonic 2, but it's a polished package and has a 3D Sonic World bit)

[Anonymous No.5514292]

>>5513295
Die Hard Arcade, if you like Streets of Rage or beat-em-ups in general. Also known as Dynamite Deka in Japan.

[Anonymous No.5514328]

>>5514142
>the ports of each game aren't that good with weird sound and there's inexplicable slowdown in Sonic 2, but it's a polished package

[Anonymous No.5514363]

>>5513295
X-men vs street fighter. Jpn import and have a good time. Make sure you get a pro action replay

[Anonymous No.5514367]

>>5514328
the changes in sound are excused because it streams the music and sounds from the CD, not the console, but it's excused because these are actually ports and not simple emulation. It's literally 16-bit Sonic running on the Saturn. The Sonic 2 slowdown is weird, but it's not game-breaking. It might have to do with the fact the original Sonic 2 already has slowdowns, in Saturn version, it actually removes some of the original slowdown, but has new slowdown parts in turn, and I'd say it's even more noticeable than the original, but again, not game-breaking.
The whole Jam package is still polished, as it includes many neat features like time attacks for every game's acts, as well as optional stuff like spindash on Sonic 1.
Plus all the other elements like the 3D world, all the extra content and the whole presentation.

[Anonymous No.5514394]

Personal faves:
Die Hard Arcade.
Panzer Dragoon Zwei
Panzer Dragoon Saga RPG.
Virtual On

[Anonymous No.5514402]

>>5513627
Basically PD1 is their competitor to Starfox.
Zwei is their competitor to Starfox 64
And Azel/Saga is their competiter to FF7/ OoT.

[Anonymous No.5514404]

>>5513310
It's not so shoddy anymore to be honest. Mednafen runs just about everything fine.

[Anonymous No.5514478]

>>5513304
Exclusives only.

[Anonymous No.5514503]

>>5514142
>NiGHTS (look up a video of how to play beforehand; very pretty game; has a PS2 and PC release)
pls OP play the Saturn version. It has so much more soul than the other releases

[Anonymous No.5514506]

>>5514142
>Galactic Attack (aka Rayforce, ex)
aka Layer Section (japanese console ver.)

[Anonymous No.5514572]

Dark Savior, cool and unique story without boring garbage turn based jrpg gameplay

[Anonymous No.5515376]

>>5513295
dont. it's too late. anything worth it will be 100 dollars plus per game.

[Anonymous No.5515393]

>>5513295
Here, OP. Chart older than /vr/, but still useful.

[Anonymous No.5515434]

>>5515376
You've never heard about this thing called piracy?

[Anonymous No.5515438]

>>5515376
Who the fuck actually buys retro games to play them? Just emulate or hack the console.

[Anonymous No.5515442]

>>5513565
Panzer Dragoon Saga has a unique in game language like the other two, and there are full English subtitles for it since it got an English release.

[Anonymous No.5515453]

>>5513482
The soundtrack is excellent and the gameplay is fine just weird to start off with.

[Anonymous No.5515532]

>>5513325
Langrisser? I think not. The Panzer Dragoon games all got US/EU releases.

>>5515442
IIRC Saga only uses the in-universe language in the opening segment for some reason, the rest of the game is voiced in plain Japanese.

[Anonymous No.5515547]

>>5513295
Sadly, some of the best Saturn games were released in Japan only, mainly its SHMUP lineup. But there are a lot of great RPGs that never got localized outside Japan. Assuming your are an NTSC/US fag here are my top 10 recommendations for that region:

1. Nights into Dreams
2. Virtual Fighter 2
3. Die Hard Arcade
4. Shinobi Legions
5. Virtua Cop
6. Panzer Dragoon II Zwei
7. Galactic Attack
8. Panzer Dragoon Saga
9. Virtua Fighter Remix
10. Daytona USA

[Anonymous No.5515578]

>>5515393
Huh, had no idea Parodius came out in Europe

[Anonymous No.5515686]

>>5515442
I meant Langrisser you idiot

[Anonymous No.5515687]

>>5515547
Read the OP again. He says JP-only games are fine too.

[Anonymous No.5515732]

>>5513295

dark savior

[Anonymous No.5515741]

I don't remember which ones, but some Wizardry and Falcom Classics had switches to play the games in other languages (including english, of course) with enhanced graphics and gameplay.
They might be worth a look if you're into that.

[Anonymous No.5515747]

>>5515732
my nigger

[Anonymous No.5515756]

Had a dream last night that a group of elite hackers got together to translate all if not most of the saturn games stuck in Japan. There's a ton of cool shit. Goddamn I want to fucking play far east of eden fourth apocalypse man.

[Anonymous No.5515767]

>>5515747
too bad I sold my copy of the game in 1998 after rage quitting on silver castle

[Anonymous No.5515779]

>>5515756
4th Apocalypse has been on the verge of being localized like 7 times by now.

[Anonymous No.5515794]

>>5515756
Just learn Japanese. It's not that hard.

[Anonymous No.5515797]

>>5515794
Objective reminder that anything worth playing has been translated.

[Anonymous No.5515798]

>>5515794
gana/kana are easy as fuck but kanji ain't easy nigga

[Anonymous No.5515804]

>>5515797
On 16 bit systems, sure. Very far from the truth for anything after that.

[Anonymous No.5515837]

>>5515798
Kanji is easy (memory techniques nigga) it just takes time

[Anonymous No.5515846]

>>5515837
It's never easy. I regularly see japanese streamers and youtubers not know how some words are pronounced. The more pretentious the game, the more often these kind of words appear.

[Anonymous No.5515861]

>>5515846
Low resolution fonts can also make it hard to identify them sometimes.

[Anonymous No.5515902]

Does anybody here know if this is a good controller to get? I want to emulate a lot of Saturn games and my Switch Pro d-pad is ass.

[Anonymous No.5515912]

>>5515902
Don't go for the black version - the plastic used on the dpad is really slippery compared to the original and that used on the 'slate grey' version. Also the actuators on the shoulder buttons kinda suck. Pretty solid controller for the price tho

[Anonymous No.5515916]

>>5515902
At the same price you can get an 8bitdo M30. It has a nice dpad. The cons are that it's slightly smaller than the original saturn controller and quite light, but those are usually not dealbreakers.

[Anonymous No.5515920]

>>5515902
Might as well buy a real Saturn controller + adapter.

[Anonymous No.5515951]

>>5515916
>they made a bluetooth genny controller that works on a real console
not gonna lie that's tempting as fuck

[Anonymous No.5515957]

>>5515951
If you want to play on the real console, you should get the 2.4g variant, not the bluetooth one.

[Anonymous No.5515970]

>>5515846
You’re being a pussy if you think learning Japanese is that hard. It’s not.

[Anonymous No.5515972]

>>5515970
Anybody who thinks learning a language isn't hard doesn't actually speak the language they're talking about.

[Anonymous No.5515985]

>>5515916
>>5515916
8bitdo shill. Retro-bit is a LICENSED SEGA manufacturer now. Nobody wants your crappy laggy controllers.

[Anonymous No.5516023]

>>5515767
Mednafen runs it just fine on a good computer, though it looks much better on a CRT and plays better with a controller

[Anonymous No.5516057]

>>5515957
why deleted? anyway, I know why you'd say that and it's probably latency related, but how bad is it? because I hate batteries. I'd rather just recharge when finished

[Anonymous No.5516362]

I tried playing Nights for the first time ever. I had no idea what type of a game it would be. It made no fucking sense. Am I supposed to read some manual before even booting the game?

[Anonymous No.5516447]

>>5516362
- Collect the blue orbs
- Once you have 20 orbs you go into the large transparent globe
- Once you break the globe you are free to return into the blue house thingy from the beginning of the level to start the next lap(the path will change).
- Do that 3 times and you'll get to the boss battle to finish the level.

Now here's the thing, you are not supposed to do the laps as fast as possible. Ideally what you want to do is collect the 20 orbs as soon as possible, then break the globe and then you keep repeating the lap to collect as many points as you can get. To do so, rather then going into the blue house thingy you should fly over it every time so the lap doesn't end right there. How you maximize your score is by chaining as many links as possible, by collecting orbs, stars and going through hoops in fast succession you will see at the bottom of the screen the link counter going up. You should strive to avoid breaking the link chain the least amount of times. You're supposed to get to the blue house thingy in the last possible moment(when the timer is nearing zero so you get your maximum amount of points)

Once you get at least C rankings on every level you will unlock the final stage

[Anonymous No.5516703]

If you're emulating or have an ODE, get Magic Knight Rayearth, it's one of my favorite vidyas ever. If not, don't bother, it's not worth what it costs. There's a decent Utena VN that's fan-translated, too.

[Anonymous No.5517370]

>>5513295
dont bother

[Anonymous No.5517371]

street fighter alpha 2
guardian heroes

[Anonymous No.5517414]

Just emulate CPS2 and Sega Model 2

[Anonymous No.5517487]

>>5513574
Soukyugurentai is my favorite shooter on saturn.

[Anonymous No.5517496]

>>5515393
Man do i miss snesorama.us

[Anonymous No.5517501]

>>5515686
This=langrisser.
Oh. So you know that everyone can read minds.

[Anonymous No.5517509]

>>5516447
Its that easy

[Anonymous No.5517572]

>>5513565
>>5515686
No, there's a patch for III but it's incomplete. Out of those 3 Langrisser games only IV is translated but the patch is for the PS1 port.

[Anonymous No.5517590]

[Anonymous No.5517653]

>>5513295
when you inevitably buy a Stunner/Virtua Gun, be sure to pick up this absolute gem. it was released in japan only, but its perfectly playable being that its just a fun lightgun shooter. the software company would go on to make the excellent melty blood fighting games.

[Anonymous No.5518162]

>>5516023
dark savior must have been the first time I felt moved by a game with the whole Garian-Gay relationship, and how they end up according to which parallel they are

[Anonymous No.5518741]

>>5518162
As a kid I didnt know there was more than parallel 1 so this game would depress me with how brutal Kay's fate was.
I was mind blown when I revisited it as a teen and found out I only played a 1/3 of the game and Kay and Garian could actually get an happy ending

[Anonymous No.5518749]

>>5517653
No, burn those $50-60 instead, more fun than playing this POS

[Anonymous No.5519178]

>>5513574
>Radiant Silvergun
Got a good setup for this with a 360 controller? It's so uncomfortable I'm thinking of getting one of those 8bitdo saturn controllers

[Anonymous No.5519242]

>>5514404
I wanna play SotN in Saturn so badly because I want to see the extra content but Mednafen is kind of a shit program that feels like pulling teeth. It cant recognize the audio file right now because you gotta convert it and rename paths too so it doesnt find any directories either. That GUI didnt help either.

[Anonymous No.5520046]

>>5519242
Mednafen can be picky about dumps. Just check the cue file and see if all the filepaths are correct. Also audio files must be in .wav but romsites usually have them as .mp3s to save on storage costs so you have to convert them yourself and then edit the cue file accordingly.

Also if want you want to play is SotN then IIRC the PSP port included in Dracula X Chronicles has the extras.

[Anonymous No.5520386]

>>5520046
No, the PSP version doesn't have the Saturn exclusive content. Only thing it borrows from it is Maria as a playable character but even she plays completely differently.

[Anonymous No.5520619]

>>5515393
KOF '95 also came out in Europe, it's also the only game to my knowledge on the Saturn that comes with its own dedicated cart that actually contains game data, since it didn't come out in the US it's the only game you can't play on a US Saturn even with an action replay.

[Anonymous No.5520621]

>>5517653
I would buy this game if it was dirt cheap but it's like £40 what the fuck.

[Anonymous No.5521505]

anyone from australia here remember seeing saturn in shops? I was a teen when it came out but dont remember ever seeing it. I know it was released since i have a bunch of games i picked up in 2003 for $2 ea

[Anonymous No.5521509]

>>5521505
Nope, I've never seen a Saturn or Dreamcast at least where I live

[Anonymous No.5521518]

>>5521509
strange. I remember only 1 place in brisbane myer center sold the dreamcast (mr toys game world), but never saw the saturn.. electronics boutique never sold it either...only ninty and ps1

[Anonymous No.5521520]

>>5521518
>Brisvegas
That's probably why you saw one. I've only lived in rural areas, where even the gamecube was considered quite the exotic item

[Anonymous No.5521529]

>>5521520
ahh thats probably why you never saw them. I remember the gamecube being all over the place

[Anonymous No.5521603]

Digital Pinball Necronomicon. I can't recommend this fucking game enough. Also the game that came before it, Digital Pinball Last Gladiator.

[Anonymous No.5521998]

>>5519178

retro-bit's new controllers are better. perfect dpad and everything. and they're cheap. 20 bucks for the genesis 25 for the saturn or 5 less for original port versions.

[Anonymous No.5522162]

>>5521998
Depends whether he wants wired or wireless pad.

[Anonymous No.5524513]

>>5515732
>>5515747
I feel like the only person who ever played this game. wish there was some discussion of it

[Anonymous No.5525182]

>>5513295
Fire Pro Wrestling S
Saturn Bomberman
Panzer Dragoon
Panzer Dragoon II
Guardian Heroes
The Last Gladiator
Necronomicon

[Anonymous No.5525594]

>>5517590
fixed your image