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5506874 No.5506874 [Reply] [Original]

Why was there no fire flower in SM64?

>> No.5506878

Seems like something that would be difficult to aim considering how far apart enemies generally are from each other. The emphasis certainly was on jumping over anything else in the game.

>> No.5506917

Because it's not a 3rd person shooter

>> No.5506918

>>5506874
Z-targeting hadn't been invented yet.

>> No.5506920

>>5506917
>Why was there no Racoon Leaf in SMB?
>Because it's not a flight simulator

>> No.5506924

>>5506917
does that mean the 2D mario games are run and gun?

>> No.5506974

Using the fire flower was mapped to the run button in the previous Mario games. Mario runs automatically if you hold the stick in any direction completely, so the usual way it was done was out of the question.

B, A, R, the C-pad, and Z were all taken up by pretty important functions that would've taken a massive nosedive in QoL if they were impeded by a shooting fireball mechanic. All that's left was L, but when holding the N64's awful controller the player wouldn't be able to reach it without taking their hand off the stick.

>> No.5506995
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>>5506924
Yes, scotforming run and gun.

I hate myself for typing that, please don't respond to my idiocy.

>> No.5507193

>>5506874
>Why was there no fire flower in SM64?
Could you imagine trying to aim with that camera?

>> No.5507208

You think about the fireflower, but you didn't stop to think that there's no small/big Mario and powerup mushroom either.
But it has 3 new powerups instead, invisible, metal and wing cap (which could be considered sort of similar to SML2's rabbit hat I guess)

>> No.5509543

>>5506995
Howdy ;)

>> No.5509570

>>5506974
Wow, you overthought that so hard. B is just used for melee attacks, which could have easily been replaced with shooting fireballs if you had the flower, >>5506878 is way more plausible.

>> No.5509846

>>5506874
it would be extremely useless besides the odd occasion where you find a group of enemies or any of the bowser stages

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