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"waifus" Edition

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>> No.5505572

What's with the manfeet?

>> No.5505649

Heroes IV is underrated

>> No.5505667

Why are threads autosaged after some time again?

>> No.5506332
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Wew, in time for Mephala

Guys, what faction is your favorite and why?
For me it's rampart, mainly because grand elves and "fun" slow bulky units for strategic combats and protecting shooters. Also atmosphere and music in town. Mephala is waifu but I love starting with Ivor because of elves specialty. Would like to know about your favs too /vr/

>> No.5506387

I enjoy cheating

>> No.5506524

How would you guys say the tierlist is for HotA?
Necro Conflux still on top?

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If I were to pick a waifu, it would be Adelaide or Jenova, because why not. I guess Adelaide was one the heroes I managed to hold onto the longest during the campaign, so I have a soft spot for her.
As for a faction - back in the day, I was an unapolgetic fan of Necropolis or Dungeon. Nowadays I lean more towards Rampart, Castle or Tower. Necro is a rather one-trick-pony (vampires) and I grew bored with the Dungeon.
I like the atmoshphere and unit design of the Rampart, the mechanics behind the Tower and Castle while boring and straightforward, plays really well.

>> No.5506542

Conflux was absolutely suplexed into oblivion
>to upgrade to pixies you need to build magic uni
>Psychic/Magic elementals received a bump in price
>you only get 3 Phoenixes, only after you build new building - burial urn that gives +1 to weekly growth
All of these nerfs and their garbage tiers 4/5 are left unattended.

>> No.5506902

>spammer figures out new way to spam board
>make post, delete post, thread is bumped but post count doesn't go up
>now every single shitty thread lasts forever and frequently is on the first page
>in order to get rid of him, mod team would need to figure out how to range-ban someone
>say fuck it, and just make every thread on /vr/ auto-sage after 7 days
>spammer is still here shitposting, but now every thread just dies for no good reason
>nothing has been fixed by this, board is even worse now
>no one wants to go anywhere else because "Wah, those places are too slow/require registration"
I just come here to call people retards and give purposely bad advice. Never put in more effort than the people in charge.

>> No.5506907

>I just come here to call people retards and give purposely bad advice.
Have you nothing else to do with your finite lifespan?

>> No.5506916

>he asked, while posting on 4chan
Nothing else to do here. You want to post something worthwhile? It will get drowned out by shitposts that never gets deleted. You want to have a conversation about something? It will get drowned out by trolling that never gets deleted. There is no point in trying to do anything of value here since the mod team won't put any effort into trying to get rid of the shitposting and trolling. What posts of value are made are quickly buried and fall off the board, which removes any reason to post them to begin with.

>> No.5506936

Then, I dunno... don't post anything at all maybe? Move on. What other "reason" to post here aside from having a conversation/discussion? I'm perfectly okay with how these threads are going even if I'm not playing currently any MM games.

>> No.5506943

IP range block is a shitty practice, I can't post anything on /v/ because of some retard. In /qa/ anon said rangeblock for his isp still consists after a fucking year.

>> No.5507045

It sucks getting nailed with someone else's ban, but there is no other real way of getting rid of persistent spammers and shitposters. They avoid rangebanning because many people complain about getting caught up in it and adding a ton of exemptions for all of them is a lot of work. But short of every country going the South Korea route, there is no other way.

Judging by all the threads clogging up the catalog, to make threads about console/platform wars, shit on popular games, discuss the latest e-celeb youtube video, blogpost, and ask to be spoonfed about everything.

If it matters any to you, this is one of the 10ish threads on this board that I don't give bad advice in, since this is one of the few threads still about /vr/ material.

>> No.5507078

I just don't understand you - complaining about shit everywhere and shitting up this board at the same time. If you're enjoying it, why complain about others, if not - why do it yourself?

>> No.5507105

I shit in the shit threads. Hidden gems on the NES? Play Urban Champion. Halp me find roms? Lemme find a good attack ad-ridden site for ya. Need your hand held in starting a new game? You should sell all your starting gear and buy junk. Can't be bothered to google up a solution? I can think of an expensive fix.
Garbage in, garbage out.

>> No.5507112

Cringe and retarded.
If you look at Russian pro MP games, people still pay huge amount of gold to play Conflux, Conflux is still very powerful and the strongest town in HotA.

>> No.5507114

Used to play the fuckload out of Tower, simply because it had mages, djinns and nagas, all packed into a single faction, with the spin on pretty much all cliches about "magic faction" in fantasy setting.
But eventually I just pushed that into "ideas I like when playing TTRPG" and switched to Rampart, for purely pragmatic reasons. And Stronghold, because HoMM3 is the only time barbarians are really cool.

Conflux was nerfed into bottom tier and Necro is still OP even after nerfs, since, duh, Necro.

>> No.5507118

There is also one of a mods with a hate-boner toward Core-era Tomb Raider, so all threads about TR get saged much, MUCH earlier and at random. Thread is up for 2 days, but everyone went asleep and it slumped to page 7? Fuck you, it's now on page 7 and dropping.

>> No.5507123

All threads get autosaged after two weeks or so, that TR thread stayed for that time.

>> No.5507127

Which one, anon? You mean the most recent one?
The example I brought up happend in late January. We had thread that got mod-saged after 2 days and slightly above 100 replies. Then it continued with a handful of other threads, all saged prematurely (some really fucking fast). So either there is some additional factor in what auto-sages threads or there is a mod that does that to just TR threads. Given this is 4chin, I'm more likely to bet on the mod with hate-boner.

>> No.5507128

>I shit in the shit threads.
Why? Why bother? Why not just walk away instead of bumping shit threads (I assume you aren't even bother saging) and encouraging more shitposting? Does it make a thread less shit? Is it really worth wasting your time on reading and typing shitposts? Did it ever occur to you that maybe YOU are part of the problem?

>> No.5507131

Yeah, recent thread.
I believe that spammer was active exactly in January and after that this 2week autosage became a thing.

>> No.5507181

conflux is still strong af and can rush easily with level 2/3 units

>> No.5507216

>Tier 4 and 5 are utter shit with no plans for changes
>Pixies nerfed into oblivion
>Magic elementals costing just too fucking much
>Phoenixes nerfed and less of them, but still too fast
It's like they didn't even try to fix or balance the faction, but just pour their dislike for it into the mod.

>> No.5507219

>>make post, delete post, thread is bumped but post count doesn't go up
That was a thing since... fucking forever. I used to bump quests with this back in the day when quests were still on /tg/

>> No.5507342

I don't give a shit about pro scene, it makes an already limited faction even more constricted in the way you can play them.
They didn't touch the stats of them though, except for nerfing firebirds imminuty to just 50% res against fire magic.

>> No.5507405

I would bother to continue the conversation, but the HoMM thread really doesn't deserve this amount of off-topic shit. Pick a shit thread if you want to continue.

>> No.5507434


Should I buy them even if I already pirated them?
Those two show up in the russian, belarus, ukraine sale, but for some reason the rest is not there of the games is not there. I actually wanted 4

>> No.5507443

>Can't be used for first-move Armageddon anymore
>Somehow not nerf

>> No.5507446

But yeah, I agree, the entire "pro" scene is the epitome of autism, since they are trying to out-do each other on abusing of ancient bugs and coding loop-holes. "Fun"!

>> No.5507447

Do you want to support Ubishit?

Fortress. Because fuck off, this swamp's full. Also because of all the special abilities its creatures have. Mighty Gorgons, Basilisks, Dragon Flies, Hydra. A bad roll (in case of MG's and basis) or a tiny mistake (hydras, dragon flies) can cost you a lot against Fortress.

>> No.5507449

Nah, subject isn't really all that interesting (something something broken windows theory maybe?), it's pretty late here and I was going to sleep, so restarting conversation after several hours in completely different thread seems kinda odd.

>> No.5507452

oh, I forgot. Thanks anon, you saved me $3

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Well right now this girl here is doing a lot to win my affection. Is there some kind of increased chance to have your specialty unit desire to join your army or was it totally random luck that I got 200 cerberi to join for free as fiona?

>> No.5507709

Because it's a trap

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Nevermind I just got a massive stack of unicorns for free too. Kind of an anticlimactic way for a game to be decided.

>> No.5507860


did you get Diplomay or something?

>> No.5508003

>single player random map

get a load of this autism

>> No.5508482

> I don't give a shit about pro scene
> the entire "pro" scene is the epitome of autism
The best way to see if something is OP or weak is to look at competitive MP and high level players.
In MP, strong towns win statistically or people will start paying gold for them. You can watch MP games and see how people play towns and how it works in practice. Hard facts proved by repeated experience.
On the contrary, "autism" is the most opinions of 4chan and reddit low level players. And on 4chan people regularly post completely false statements about the game. If you make a claim that something is weak or strong, but experience shows the opposite, you're wrong, not MP community.
> they are trying to out-do each other on abusing of ancient bugs and coding loop-holes. "Fun"!
What? What bugs and loopholes do they abuse? I understand, for example, complaints that people play JC too much, but "bugs and loopholes"? Examples, please.

>> No.5508484

>I don't give a shit about pro scene, it makes an already limited faction even more constricted in the way you can play them.
you do realize HotA doesn't use nearly as many special extra rules as SoD? so what is constricted here?
not to mention that deflecting the argument because "pros are autists" kinda defeats the point of balance-whining about HotA conflux. The best players squeeze the biggest dividends out of the faction even post-nerf, so you being unable to do so might mean you just need to git gud

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arena najlepsza

>> No.5508567

jancel hates this thread

>> No.5508573

>so what is constricted here?
Your early game? Pixies are locked away, tier 4/5 are still garbage so the only thing left is powercreeping with storms, followed by ice elementals, truly riveting and fulfilling gameplay.

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It's like you are doing this on purpose

>> No.5508853

>People abusing to this day the loophole with Badge of Courage
>E-examples! T-the meta is perfect! S-stop calling people autistic
Takes to be brain-damaged to actually play HoMM on competitive level, because that's a game with NO support, INTENTIONAL lack of balance, NO chances of fixes and NO actual way to fix certain things at all without reworking half of the game.
Somehow, autists and mouth-breathers feel really good about themselves, because they use and abuse all that shit and trying to out-do each other with it. Wow, such fantastic sport!
>inb4 b-but HotA
As already other anons elaborated, HotA fixed shit, while adding more of it and also pushing modders bias into the game. And Conflux is the prime example of it. Rather than re-balancing things, they just nuked the entire faction with all-around nerf. Who needs solutions, like lowering speed, when you can just affect growth of Phoenixes. It's not like it's the speed that makes them broken, rather than amount or something. And it's not like HotA dev team considers "first move win" strategy to be the one and only true. Or that competitive autists are retarded enough to pick a faction that's still fucking broken, but also close to unplayable.

tl;dr get the fuck out.

>> No.5508925

competitive homm3 is an oxymoron

>> No.5508941

What's the deal with the badge?

>> No.5509012

and you are still the fucking retard posting this shit reaction image to every single time someone questions your worthless, undefendable logic

fuck off from this thread already

>> No.5509134

Heh time to play HoMM6 again!

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lol pleb

>> No.5509170

>Miss the points so fucking hard it qualifies for ultimate missing the point gif
>N-no, stop posting!
Funny how you didn't even try to refute anon that plough your back and planted barley over it, but try to wiggle some space for yourself about reaction images

>> No.5509187

t. russian sperg

>> No.5509206

What are some good backup strats to do if you don't get armageddon while doing efreetgeddon strat for inferno?

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>Being this much out of argument

>> No.5509213

i'm not even the guy you were talking to m8, you are defending crappy decisions made by a fan made mod

>> No.5509814

This argument would make sense if you weren't trying to refute people telling you that Conflux is still considered playable in spite of the nerf, merely brought up to par with other factions, and even posting examples of viable play with it, while you still keep going on with rants about overall HotA design ("first move wins" doesn't win instantly in any HoMM iteration, otherwise Stronghold and Fortress wouldn't be popular towns at all due to relatively low top speed) and claiming that the faction is "close to unplayable" when, again, it still works and stacks up well to other factions.

The loophole with Badge is that it makes you immune to mind spells (including Berserk) that isn't written down anywhere. I have no idea why this person considers this particular quirk of the game such a massive gamebreaker or why it's his chief argument on how the game is broken so it's not worth taking seriously or talking about in capacity other than his 12 Month-long "comfy" romps on Arrogance, but here we are.

Can confirm, you are posting this gif every single time you get BTFO'd and it has never, ever worked. You're a misinformed cancer in these threads and nobody knows what you even enjoy in HoMM3, because you always post inane shit about multi, balance this, balance that, and then when people tell you you are retarded, you post the "missing the point" guy without explaining how the point was missed in any way. Rather, you could explain why someone clueless like yourself can't play Conf but any semi-decent player can use it (some of the best starting heroes in the game, excellent tempo on the L2 unit, starting with a ton of fliers that are fast and do their usual job well even without the retal, good extra buildings and solid costs) well, or why is it "autism" to play and enjoy the game at the level that's above your own, because that's what the crux of the posts that "missed the point" was.

You've been doing this for months. Stop it already.

>> No.5509818

And also, what is the merit of posts like this? All competitive HoMM3 means that is that people compete in it, for fun and much less likely for profit. People stream it, people watch that, people attend tournaments, Paul Anthony Romero does concerts before those HoMM3 tournaments that popped up in Poland a while ago. Literally all that has to happen is that there's some niche playerbase that competes in this game and there's enough of a movement to make a buzz around the competition. It's not like you can't consistently figure out who the good players are (the best players' names are in circulation constantly) even though the game is full of RNG and not particularly balanced, so obviously there's skill involved.

So, what is the problem? Do you somehow feel threatened about the hundred or so "autists" play this (apparently old, boring, dated and poorly designed) game at a higher level than you do? Why do you give a shit? The meta they play at or even the mod(s) they use are completely irrelevant to you if you so choose.

>> No.5510701

>>nothing has been fixed by this, board is even worse now
>>no one wants to go anywhere else because "Wah, those places are too slow/require registration"
but muh Anonymous!
srzzzly anon or registered. people will spam. requiring registration just slows them down. if you a make a sekrit club with only 5 people, accessed only via some private VPN,that might work.

>> No.5510705

Suppork GOG polandballs.

the official HD shilled by ubisoft is the one you should avoid.

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>Retard gets BTFO
>Bitches and moans anyway

>> No.5512665
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Why do hero sprites work incorrectly? I noticed it with Crag too.

>> No.5512781

>Why do hero sprites work incorrectly?
Original game had a single sprite for each class of heroes, regardless of their gender. HotA people fixed that by adding both male and female variant for each class.

>> No.5514168
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Just found out that the HD mod adds an option to see detailed informations when right clicking a starting hero in the advanced options when starting a game, but for some reason I'm only seeing the classic screen when doing it
wat do? Or is it only working with HOTA?

>> No.5514647

>wat do?
The advanced screen is only available when you're choosing to play a random map, or so it seems.

>> No.5514862

>Waifu Edition
>Shiva still not having decent fan-art
Guess I will just have to suffice on Lorelei then

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She still has more.

>> No.5514887

I think he meant the Russian series of redraws that started this very thread

>> No.5515157

>Stronghold SP random map
>Check recruitment in tavern
>Oris and Nimbus
For those unfamiliar - Eagle Eye specialists

>> No.5515184

Speaking of Stronghold:
Is Jabarkas worth it? He has Orcs speciality, so they gain +1 to speed, but other than that, he's Barbarian rather than Battle Mage (best class, period)

>> No.5515231

Depends entirely on how much you rely on orcs. I eventually just have two stacks of cyclops.

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>using cyclops

>> No.5515416

Among the best Tower heroes.

>> No.5515479

>Not using one of the best shooters around

>> No.5515526
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>never leaves the house
>cooks for you
>child-bearing hips

>> No.5517278

Happy Easter and carry on, anons.

>> No.5517290

I did specify that they all joined for free, that's why I came to bitch, seemed strange that a game would be handed to me like that.

Until I'm able to beat 7v1 200% like that mekick faggot, random maps hold a challenge. Are you honestly implying I should be playing MP instead?

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They were great back when they were called trolls and were literal best shooters in the game. But then devs decided to nerf em in 3, took one of their eyes and gave their dwelling a fuckoff huge crystal cost. Since Stronghold is pretty much rush: the faction that made cyplopses really unpopular.

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>> No.5518173

>rush: the faction
... what?
No, seriously, what the fuck.

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>birbs day 2
>behes week 1
What's not to get? They are really really good at clearing the map quickly and are very popular as a rush faction because of that.

>> No.5518186

Different anon, but that's not how rush works at all

>> No.5518192

I'm sure Mephala would be eager to get some one-on-one lessons from Tazar

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121 red rush is pretty much synonymous with Stronghold though.
121 refers to the monday of the second week of the first month and red is the player color that goes first. You get your turn on monday, buy out the creatures, chain them to your main and move in for the kill before your opponent gets an opportunity to buy out his own creatures. That works on any monday really, but 121 is the fastest, most balls to the wall variant (only possible on small maps).

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best waifu

>> No.5518308
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Reminder that AI value of an earth elemental (a level 5 creature) is 330 (roughly equivalent to 3 centaurs) while air elemental (a level 2 creature) has AI value of 356 beating even fire elemental (a level 3 creature) which has AI value of 345
Conflux is a well designed faction.

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Typo, fire elemental is a level 4 creature

>> No.5519092
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>All those dainty waifus
Now, here's a woman that will bear you strong sons!
I actually like Jenova

>> No.5519221

As the Shiva anon already mentioned - second best

>> No.5519291
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Gretchin is a gobbo, why's she proportioned like an ogre?

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Tomboy waifu moving at incredibly high speed.

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>> No.5519314
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Why's catoblepas in Homm3 called "gorgon"?

>> No.5519317

Because Gary Gygax.

>> No.5519319

He doesn't own copyright on mythological Ethiopian beasts. And Homm "gorgon" doesn't even look anything like a dnd catoblepas.

>> No.5519323

>And Homm "gorgon" doesn't even look anything like a dnd catoblepas.
HoMM Gorgons looks like DnD Gorgons, you doofus.
Copyrights has nothing to do with it. 95% of M&M creatures straight up copied from Monster Manual.

>> No.5519353

More like Kyrill

>> No.5519408

sigh. It even says on the screenshot
check the adiitional settings in launcher. You can tweak a lot iof things n HD mod.

>> No.5519464

Yeah thanks for nothing, prick. HD+ is enabled by default and there are no options or tweaks in the launcher or the .ini for this. The other guy as right, it only works when you select random maps, not scenarios.

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>> No.5521559

the incredibly high cost on the building is what makes them not viable.

at least Hota fixed that

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