Playstation Classic

[Anonymous No.5503070]

As everyone knows Playstation Classic, the mini console released by Sony was a huge disaster for various reasons. Retailers are now selling it dirt cheap, $30 USD / $40 CAD. However the mod scene has taken over, this system was super easy to hack and comes with relatively decent hardware, all you need is a USB drive and you could run RetroArch with dozens of emulators. All the reported issues have been fixed, better emulation, ability to load any games or any emulator you want, etc.

Two solution to mod the classic exist, and both are easy to do.
BleemSync: https://modmyclassic.com/bleemsync/
AutoBleem: https://modmyclassic.com/bleemsync/

Comes with original 2 PSX style USB controllers, using an ARM Cortex-A35 & Power VR GE8300 graphics chip, with 1GB DDR3 RAM, 16GB eMMC storage, nice looking PS1 form factor, 20 built in games but some are not properly setup and there are PAL versions a NA release (can be fixed with modding).

Walmart in Canada currently sells it for $40 both on the website and in many stores. US stores have reported $30 during sales.

PlayStation Classic Games for North America:
* Battle Arena Toshinden [PAL]
* Cool Boarders 2 [PAL]
* Destruction Derby [PAL]
* Final Fantasy VII [PAL]
* Grand Theft Auto [PAL]
* Intelligent Qube
* Jumping Flash [PAL]
* Metal Gear Solid
* Mr Driller
* Oddworld: Abe’s Oddysee
* Rayman
* Resident Evil Director’s Cut [PAL]
* Revelations: Persona
* Ridge Racer Type 4
* Super Puzzle Fighter II Turbo
* Syphon Filter
* Tekken 3 [PAL]
* Tom Clancy’s Rainbow Six [PAL]
* Twisted Metal
* Wild Arms

Perhaps we can discuss this console, there is a small scene on reddit currently but it's basically running PCSX ReARMed by default: https://www.reddit.com/r/PlaystationClassic/

[Anonymous No.5503094]

>>5503070
It failed because ps1 isnt loved anymore sweetiebums.

[Anonymous No.5503134]

>>5503070
Might have to pick one of these up just to hack it.

[Anonymous No.5503142]

>>5503070
>the included emulator is open source dogshit
>PS4 controllers can be connected to a PC
What's the point

[Anonymous No.5503183]

>>5503070
SNES Mini is better for hacking anyway.

[Anonymous No.5503195]

>>5503070
just emulate on a better computer, ya melvin

Doesn't even have sticks so it's pointless to buy for the controllers.

[Anonymous No.5503196]

>>5503142

It's not for everyone, you can emulate PS1 for ages on PC. However there are reasons why someone might consider grabbing one.

>Dirt cheap during sales
>First party hardware created by Sony
>Just for collecting purposes, it will never be produced again
>Easy to mod/hack
>You get 2 basic USB controllers in the style of PS1, made by Sony, that alone may be worth it for retro gaming versus buying knockoffs
>Cheaper than buying a Pi 3 with peripherals during sales, nearly as powerful, or potentially more powerful with time as modding scene unlock more features and GPU capabilities
>Dedicated small factor system you can move around

The system is significantly better than nes/snes minis and has far more potential. Sony could of easily spent sometime configuring it properly & not including PAL roms, they could have also included a different selection of games, and the price point of $100 USD was far too much, but now it's 1/3rd of that or cheaper with overstock at many places for a limited time. If you are into hacking stuff or retro gaming/emulation is a great system for that.

[Anonymous No.5503207]

>>5503183
It's not, both NES/SNES minis have a ARM Cortex-A7 & 256 RAM & they cost a lot more, Playstation Classic is significantly better hardware wise, Sony fucked up so bad that they included PAL versions of certain games (which you can change if you want with modding) & did not properly configure shit. To the point that a SNES mini could run some PS1 titles better on much weaker hardware. But once PS1 classic is modded, it significantly better obviously.

[Anonymous No.5503274]

>>5503196
I’d much rather have a pi, easier and better setup and customization. No hacking required, it’s open source. Around the same price. Even more portable. Huge dedicated community. The list goes on

[Anonymous No.5503276]

>>5503274
>pi
>easier

[Anonymous No.5503281]

>>5503207
>>5503274
Snes mini has less lag.

[Anonymous No.5503282]

>>5503070
dont bother anon everyone is close minded as fuck about the ps classic i hacked mine and love it have played dozens of games on it

[Anonymous No.5503290]

>>5503281
what lag?

[Anonymous No.5503291]

>>5503281
Only for native games.

[Anonymous No.5503302]

Is there a way to boot games using retroarch's PSX core through the main menu (as opposed to through retroarch's no-frills interface).

[Anonymous No.5503303]

>>5503274

Yeah Pi is far more versatile, and a bigger community, but it will generally cost more once you add all the peripherals.

PSC classic is more complete as a dedicated emulation system out of the box, it's running open source as well, it was hacked nearly instantly and had little to no security (Sony used a public key to sign stuff on the PlayStation Classic). It's a system if you want to fuck around with emulation and modding, etc.

PSC can be found for $25 in US sometimes.

It's just kind of funny that it failed so bad, because Sony didn't spend enough time on it, all issues could have been super easily fixed because the hardware is decent.

I just thought people might be interested, while they have a ton of stock and prices are low while they fire sale the remaining stock.

[Anonymous No.5503307]

>>5503302

Isn't the PSX core just PCSX ReARMed? Which is already being used? I mean you could use either the built in (PCSX ReARMed) and tweak it or you an use RetroArch with PCSX ReARMed.

[Anonymous No.5503317]

>>5503307
No, I mean I'd like to be able to launch games through the main menu and have them not be lagged to hell and unplayble. I can play PS1 games fine if I launch them through Retroarch, but I'd rather click on thumbnails of the box art from the main menu.

[Anonymous No.5503323]

>>5503317
Oh yeah I see what you mean, yeah I'm not really sure about that myself.

I know you could change the built in games, so maybe you could mess with settings or how the games are launched as well.

[Anonymous No.5503334]

>>5503070

I noticed I didn't include a proper link to AutoBleem and posted the same link twice.

https://github.com/screemerpl/cbleemsync

AutoBleem's new version was just released btw 0.6.0beta2, and it doesn't modify anything on the console unlike BleemSync. If you want a more purest approach.

[Anonymous No.5503341]

>>5503281
No, the outdated bar chart you’re referring to doesn’t show the correct ms measurement of lag the pi has. The pi not only has less lag than the snes mini, it has less lag than an original console. The same is true for windows pcs. A real snes has about 40 ms of lag, and a pi currently has about 30 ms. You can even test it yourself pretty easily instead of blindly trusting inaccurate, 3 year old charts.

[Anonymous No.5503346]

The reason to get this is the controllers

[Anonymous No.5503351]

>>5503302
Try LaunchBox, I just drag the ROM into RA

[Anonymous No.5503357]

Why DID they use PAL versions? Was it some weird rights issue?

[Anonymous No.5503361]

>>5503357
They modified PCSX ReARMed for the worse

[Anonymous No.5503365]

>>5503070
I was looking into getting it until I read that it needs a really weak/old usb stick to not brown out/crash with the mod.

[Anonymous No.5503367]

>>5503281
Even this outdated image shows how (given the correct setup) a pi has less lag than the mini. Nothing beats a windows pc of course https://forums.libretro.com/uploads/default/original/2X/7/7a1cb3b3b477580334118d4ff2bad5c94f8bc2a1.png
But a pi is much better than a snes mini or ps classic, and cheaper too if you already have a controller laying around.

[Anonymous No.5503414]

>>5503341
>>5503367
Fake.

Plus less lag than snes isnt good.

[Anonymous No.5503437]

>>5503365
Because u plug in the usb into the second control port, and each port only provides low power so some usb sticks especially USB3 won't work properly. There is a 5 minute hardware mod u can do or use a powered hub.

https://github.com/pathartl/BleemSync/wiki/USB-Current-Limiting

[Anonymous No.5503459]

>>5503414
>when you get btfo so bad all you can do is troll

[Anonymous No.5503461]

>>5503276
What exactly is hard about setting up a pi? You put the disc image on a SD card and that's it.

[Anonymous No.5503467]

>>5503459
Nah shit for brains. Its not accurate.

Might as well put pepper in your bigmac.

[babbage's gramps No.5503473]

You know what also sold for $30 for a while? PSTV be those came with a Dual Shock 3

[Anonymous No.5503501]

>>5503365
duuno what it needs but i bought abrand new usb for tzhis fucker nand it worked one time after that the stick wanted tobe formated

[Anonymous No.5503527]

>>5503094
> No Castlevania: SOTN
> Only 1 of 3 Final Fantasy Games
> No Street Fighter Alpha or MKT
> No RE2 or RE3
> No Tomb Raider
> System that was popular among normies for sports games and racers that are no longer relevant.
> Early 3D games on PSX look like pixelated shit and don't control very well
> Lacks old school 2D "charm"

[Anonymous No.5503558]

>>5503070
If I am going to plug anything into a tv or monitor via HDMI, it is going to be a PC, not some shitty piece of shit emulator that has a 12 person following over at reddit of all places.

[Anonymous No.5503598]

>>5503070
can you connect better controllers?

[Anonymous No.5503606]

>reddit

[Anonymous No.5503614]

>>5503467
Accurate doesn’t mean better.

[Anonymous No.5503742]

BestBuy in Canada will have the Playstation Classic for only $30 on April 18th, check the flyer.

That's like $22.50 USD

[Anonymous No.5503965]

>>5503742
I'm really tempted to get it on Thursday, even if just for the controllers + hacking it as a bonus.
But will it go lower?

[Anonymous No.5503984]

>>5503965
>But will it go lower?
This guy >>S5431982 seemed to think so

[Anonymous No.5503986]

Meant to write >>5431982

[Anonymous No.5504013]

>>5503527
>no thumbsticks on the controller

[Anonymous No.5504023]

>>5503094
Yeah, we all know bugmen zoomers have faux nostalgia for any dogshit nintendo drops on them.

[Anonymous No.5505380]

>>5503965
It's hard to say, $30 CAD is already pretty damn cheap. Depends on stock, might see $20 or might not.

If you look at the hardware side of things, 2 USB retro controllers will typically cost u more than $20 CAD, casing $10+. Value wise for hacking/modding it's already pretty damn cheap.

I'd only get it if u just want it in your collection or you plan to mod it, otherwise the console isn't all that great.

Since they are not making anymore, once supply is sold in a year or two. Price will hold and may increase a bit into the future.

[Anonymous No.5505486]

>>5504023
Nah u wrong.

[Anonymous No.5505701]

>>5503094
it failed because it's just a worse product than Nintendo's mini releases
if Sony had put even the slightest bit of effort in, it could have done well

but it has fucking PAL 50hz releases, the game selection is weak, and there's emulation issues anyway
all of which led to terrible press about the thing not being worth it, and hence everyone just saying it's shit and not bothering

>>5503276
it literally is
>put retropie SD into pi
>copy bios and ISOs
done

[Anonymous No.5505724]

>>5505486
>t. soi drinker and nes/snes classic owner

[Anonymous No.5505726]

>>5505724
Nope im chad and i only drink water. Geeks love ps1.

[Anonymous No.5505762]

>>5505726
Cringe.

[Anonymous No.5505824]

>>5503070
I got one cheap,
It's kinda nice if you hacked it.

However, it's nothing special, you'll be better off buying an android emulation box.

[Anonymous No.5505827]

>>5505762
Faggot.

[Anonymous No.5505912]

>>5505824

Yeah basically what is it, just a decent emulation box for a cheap price. Unless you are collecting or like to mod stuff, no need to get it. But if you could use one, it's a good option.

[Anonymous No.5505932]

>>5503094
Poor sonyggers.
>>5503742
Toonies and loonies arn't real currency ya hoser.

[Anonymous No.5506368]

This thread has made me decide to put the ps emulator on my wii tomorrow, anyone know if it works well? I've never owned any Playstation fyi, figure I'll check it out finally though

[Anonymous No.5506520]

>>5503142
??? The best emulators are open-source, I don't understand how you can even say something like this.

[Anonymous No.5506523]

>>5503302
yes

[Anonymous No.5506525]

>>5503461
for the psc its exactly the same but with a usb drive

[Anonymous No.5507393]

OTG support is nearly here, will be able to plugin stuff through power in rear. Pretty much run anything at this point, mice, keyboards, ssds.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QwoEoerY_yc

If it hits $20 during sales will be the cheapest homebrew device for PSX/N64 era emulation. Hope Sony made a lot of these.

[Anonymous No.5507429]

>>5503070
How much onboard storage space does it have effort does it take to unfuck it via modding?

If all the ISOs were simply NTSC, it would already be a marked improvement over the product we got.

[Anonymous No.5507483]

Does it have input lag or frame drops when emulating NTSC games

[Anonymous No.5507490]

I wonder if the PS5's PS1 emulator is the same as the total garbage this thing runs on.

[Anonymous No.5507559]

>>5507429
16GB internal, you can replace the internal games using some modding, but will have to remove the originals.

For the rest you can use a USB drive in second controller, as long as it doesn't use more than 100mAh. Otherwise you will need to use a powered hub or remove protection to allow 1.5A output on controller ports. Typically USB2 flash drives will usually work, but not all.

Otherwise OTG from rear already exists, but it's not perfected yet but will be soon. You use a $3 USB splitter and can plugin, power plus anything else u want like an SSD or any USB, any peripherals u want, etc. Leaving 2nd controller port available.

Pretty strong modding scene on this console, and I would imagine a lot of hacks and mods will be available in the months and years to come.

[Anonymous No.5507572]

>>5507490
Default PSC was using PCSX ReARMed, you can also try Beetle PSX HW.

These aren't bad emulators, PCSX ReARMed was just poorly setup by Sony. I think they even had frame skip and some other shit on by default, combined with some games being PAL versions 50Hz versus typical 60Hz. No wonder they ran and looked like shit.

http://docs.libretro.com/library/pcsx_rearmed/

Also various kernel optimizations can be made in future to significantly improve performance. Modding scene will get there,

[Anonymous No.5507618]

>>5505701
>it failed because it's just a worse product
it comes with 2 controllers which are more useful because of 2 extra shoulder buttons and is easily hackable so at 30 bucks its a much better product actually

[Anonymous No.5507620]

>>5503274
>Huge dedicated community
all these shit emu boxes run the same dogshit arm hardware with some bullshit near worthless gpu

[Anonymous No.5507682]

>>5507620

GPU on PSC is actually 30-35% faster than a rpi3b+.

[Anonymous No.5507687]

>>5507682
they all have shitty non existent drivers except for the nvidia board so it doesn't matter

[Anonymous No.5507706]

>>5503346
The controller cable is just plugged in via micro USB inside of the housing. I swapped one and use it to charge my PS4 controller.

[Anonymous No.5507958]

>>5507483
>input lag
of course

>frame drops
on N64

[Anonymous No.5507963]

>>5507618
It's a better emulation system made of more advanced component hardware, but it was a worse *product* because it was poorly *produced*.

[Anonymous No.5507968]

>>5507963
>it was poorly *produced*.
that's sonys problem not mine

[Anonymous No.5508017]

>>5507968
I'm not saying that after putting in some of your own work you haven't got something worth having. OOTB, it was a shitty product and that's just reality.

[Anonymous No.5508024]

>>5508017
>OOTB, it was a shitty product
so is life

[Anonymous No.5508025]

Where the fuck can I get one for thirty bucks?

[Anonymous No.5508026]

>>5508025
ebay

[Anonymous No.5508029]

Is there a way to replace the base games instead of wasting the 2nd USB for the drive w/ games? I wanna use 2 controllers for modded games

[Anonymous No.5508041]

>>5508026
Wrong.

[Anonymous No.5508070]

>>5508029
Not exactly what you were looking for, but I know you can use (certain?) usb hubs on port one to connect two controller.

[Anonymous No.5508107]

>>5508029
also with otg support coming very soon this will be possible, just use an otg cable and plug the drive into the back

[Anonymous No.5508113]

How's the compatibility for this? I really wanna play some PSX games and was literally about to build a PC with a Ryzen 2200g to just have an emulation box.

I've read a list on compatibility from a few sources and it was all wonky.

[Anonymous No.5508186]

>>5508025
Not sure about US, but in Canada April 18th Best buy will have it for $30 CAD, also all Walmarts in Canada have it for $40 this week.

[Anonymous No.5508191]

>>5503282
Want to talk me through your hacking process?
I'm interested because I'm poor (despite working 7 days a week in construction) and this sounds like fun to fuck with. Especially if I can play CTR again with it.

[Anonymous No.5508234]

>>5508113
Build that PC, anon. Watercool it with a custom loop. Construct a desk around the case. Hand-wire your own keyboard. Then install Firefox and navigate to eBay to buy an actual Playstation.

[Anonymous No.5508256]

>>5508029
It's possible.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2tusvBDQzw&t=1s

This thread provides some info as well:
https://www.reddit.com/r/PlaystationClassic/comments/bb32v9/odd_behavior_replacing_internal_games/

[Anonymous No.5508263]

>>5508029
>>5508070
>>5508107
>>5508256

Some interesting stuff here as well, replace games & update internal emulator if you don't want to use USB stick on port 2.

What I am thinking of doing myself is using these methods to place only 2 player games on internal memory so I can use 2 controllers, but placing the single player games on a dedicated 16/32GB usb stick so when I want I can play them by just plugging in a stick on port 2. Easy, before OTG method get perfected.

https://gbatemp.net/threads/howto-replace-pal-tekken-3-with-ntsc-on-psclassic.531528/
https://gbatemp.net/threads/howto-update-stock-emulator-in-psclassic.531600/

[Anonymous No.5508265]

>>5508263
what's the point of this when you can just use retroarch to run the game in ntsc mode?

[Anonymous No.5508276]

>>5508265

You might be right, but I've read there might be other differences between PAL/NTSC versions?

Also I kind of want to remove some of the games I'll never play.

[Anonymous No.5508471]

Is this or Wii better for emulating Sega
Genesis?

[Anonymous No.5508627]

>>5508471
doesn't really matter.

[Anonymous No.5508637]

Emulation on this thing is terrible and I'm pretty sure it's bleemsync. Seriously, it takes at least 3 minutes to launch each game installed

[Anonymous No.5509661]

>>5508637
>bleemsync
Autobleem seems to be much better for almost the same functionality. Games launch pretty quick.

[Anonymous No.5509848]

>>5508637
Try a 2A 5V power adapter, the recommend 1A 5V is not enough I think.

[Anonymous No.5509849]

>>5503070
>Walmart in Canada currently sells it for $40
Already? Damn, maybe I'll pick one up tomorrow.

[Anonymous No.5509857]

Thanks for the thread great deal to be honest

[Anonymous No.5509916]

>>5509661
Might as well use Retroarch with Autobleem though. For all of its improvements, Autobleem's attempts to fix the PCSX_Rearmed emulator with its own version still aren't perfect, but unless the game's constantly streaming data (like Legend of Dragoon), the Retroarch version being distributed will run games far more efficiently.

[Anonymous No.5509932]

>>5503742
will be there other Good Friday offers, or any Good Friday offfer at all?

a friend plans to go to laredo this friday and seeing the 25$ price tag from >>5503303, i imagine will be that way or even lower, right?

[Anonymous No.5510115]

Are the controllers even any good? The D-pad on original PSX controllers was pretty crap as I recall.

[Anonymous No.5510165]

Any way to check if my local Walmart has them for $25? I bought one for $40 about a month ago and hacked it, but if like to keep on in it's box unhacked if I can for that price.

[Anonymous No.5510182]

>>5509849
April 18th go to BestBuy to get it for $30, in Canada, 1 day only.

[Anonymous No.5510186]

>>5510165
>check if my local Walmart has them for $25
I'll tell you now: They don't.

[Anonymous No.5510204]

>>5510165
Walmart still has them for 60. Fuck that.

Amazon has them for 31 with prime.

[Anonymous No.5510213]

>>5510204
Be careful with that used Amazon Warehouse stuff, anon.

[Anonymous No.5510216]

>>5510213

They accept returns right?

[Anonymous No.5510217]

>>5510216
Yeah, but as usual you want to be careful about the options you select if you go through the online process.

[Anonymous No.5510224]

>>5510217

Thanks for the heads up. Would you happen to know which one emulates better, this or a wii? I got a 64gb sd card for my wii for emulators. I've heard everything up to gba is great.

But this little thing looks good too. Really hoping it can run most PS1 games well. Only other option is my PS2 with FMCB.

[Anonymous No.5510237]

>>5510224
I'm a crtbro but also a physical game guy. My preference between the two would be a Wii outputting true 240p over component video to a non-HD CRT. These classic systems have all been HDMI only. That would be my main criterion in choosing between them.

That said I think the realistic limit for both systems emulation-wise is pre-N64, and PS1 should represent no problem on either. I think the Wii has better N64 emulation than this and other Android boxes of similar power, but that's just what I've heard.

[Anonymous No.5510456]

>>5510237
Wii has the option of injecting N64 ROMs into custom WADs to use Nintendo's own N64 emulator (fake Virtual Console, basically), which isn't always perfect but is better than a lot of emulation box solutions.

[Anonymous No.5510517]

How's the performance? Unmodded classics hardly play anything at a decent framerate

[Anonymous No.5510531]

BestBuy sale is on for Canada, $29.99 today only.

https://www.bestbuy.ca/en-ca/product/playstation-classic-console/13024442.aspx

[Anonymous No.5510547]

>>5510531
If I mailed them a US dollar, would they ship me one along with the change?

[Anonymous No.5510553]

Autobleem or Bleemsync?

[Anonymous No.5510557]

>>5508234
He is not red E

[Anonymous No.5510561]

>>5510547

An entire dollar? Mr. Prime minister how generous.

[Anonymous No.5510565]

>>5510553

I'd start with Autobleem, it doesn't modify any files on the system.

But both are good.

[Anonymous No.5510615]

>>5510115
curious about this

[Anonymous No.5510624]

>>5510615

They feel good, but a lot lighter than originals.

[Anonymous No.5510628]

>>5510115
you recall incorrectly, original psx dpad was and is amazing and lasts ages.

[Anonymous No.5510667]

>>5510547

They'd never return the change, they'd just pretend it never reached them/ got lost in the post and then buy some new warehouses and infrastructure with it.

[Anonymous No.5510682]

>>5503527
NES Classic had similar shortcomings, but the target audience for that had lower standards
>No Castlevania 3
>Only 1 of 6 Mega Man games
>No Super Dodgeball or Tetris
>No Ducktales or Chip n Dale
>No River City Ransom
>Games are too hard for the hipsterfags and normies who buy these mini consoles
>2D games look like shit on the big TVs that the cunts listed above hook these mini consoles up to

[Anonymous No.5510698]

>>5503070
No thanks basedny shill. I dont want that shit hardware and shit no analog controller. I'd rather connect my pc.

[Anonymous No.5510704]

If you are in Canada, check The Source stores. Online they just posted PSC for only $20 CAD! But it was sold out quickly.

https://www.thesource.ca/en-ca/gaming/retro-gaming/retro-consoles--and--games/playstation%c2%ae-classic/p/108078668

About $15 USD when converted.

[Anonymous No.5510743]

>>5505827

based Killer Kelly poster

[Anonymous No.5511635]

>>5510704
It was kinda funny. I checked online, and it said they had "limited stock" of the PSC at the source in the mall near my place.
Went to go check it out, turns out it's actually shutdown, despite that their website says it's open.
Limited stock my ass.

[Anonymous No.5511708]

>>5510704
so, is it really canada only, there wont be any offer chances outside Canada then?

[Anonymous No.5512141]

Can't wait till they come up with a way to install an SD card in the back of this thing or something.

[Anonymous No.5512241]

>>5503527
>System that was popular among normies for sports games and racers that are no longer relevant.
they didn't even have the ones that people actually remember like tony hawk, gran turismo or blitz.

who the fuck cares about cool boarders?

[Anonymous No.5512383]

Just use a PC and a playstation controller fags

[Anonymous No.5513204]

Anyone know of a guide of how to hook up an SD card reader to this thing? the expansion port slot on the back would be a perfect place to mount an SD card panel mount thingy.

[Anonymous No.5513219]

>>5503070
still worthless, useless trash without dualshock.
nice try $ony firesale $hill

[Anonymous No.5513229]

>>5503527
lack of street fighter is unforgiveable,after playing da psclassic i imidubtly wanna punch some people but now i can see why its not there

[Anonymous No.5513248]

>>5503070
>>5513245

[Anonymous No.5513327]

They should have included Legend of Dragoon, one of the CORE-era Tomb Raider games, and more of the PS1-era platformers like Jersey Devil and MediEvil.

[Anonymous No.5513331]

>>5503070
no thanks. id rather keep my 30$