The future of retro gaming?

[Anonymous No.5492508]

So this is the future of retro gaming? Games as a streaming service?

https://youtu.be/rhz4wKcuM4A

[Anonymous No.5492524]

(current) games as streaming service is fine with fast internet speeds, but I don't get the point behind retro ones. he claims 2000 games they obtained rights to, he's really going to divide up monthly payments to them?

it'll fail, emulation is too big now to fail but then again normies out there who can't figure out how to download roms anymore may fall for this. better hope the Kickstarter doesn't fail given he already invested lel

[Anonymous No.5492540]

>No downloads, no fiddly emulators, just instant streaming
Seems like an intent to trick people into thinking they're not using emulators, when really they're just using emulators you don't have to "fiddle" with. There's no way a small team like that could write their own emulators for all those different systems. So they're probably using (or stealing) community-made ones. Will those devs be compensated for their work? I doubt it.

And his part about the original creators getting paid is just laughable. None of the people who made those games will get a penny. He's an industry guy, so he would know that too.

[Anonymous No.5492586]

>>5492540
Aren't most popular versions of emulators (especially for retro shit) open source? Seems like they would avoid the compensation issue through that way

[Anonymous No.5492598]

>>5492586
He doesn't have to compensate them. But it would be pretty shitty if his "solution" to piracy is just software designed to enable to piracy, that he didn't create, and he didn't pay for. But he will charge you for it.

[Anonymous No.5492601]

>>5492508
go back to making technical videos pls, gamehut

[Anonymous No.5492635]

>>5492598

He has the one half of the equation in the bag, which is the rights to the games under such a service, but I do agree that it's only really shitty if he doesn't contribute back to the emulators in any way. Unfortunately, the only way to force equitable trade in this case is for all emulators to use a strict hosting license like AGPLv3, which isn't happening for the foreseeable future unless it gets pretty bad.

[Anonymous No.5492643]

>>5492508
>games as a streaming service
It'll fail before it even has a chance.

[Anonymous No.5492708]

You want to know the funniest part of this?

Basedtendo has the exact same plan (for when they drop support for the Switch store like they did with the virtual console) and retards are going to eat it up.

[Anonymous No.5492862]

Boy oh boy. People in this board often complain about input lag on emulators. Wait and see until this shit comes out.

Besides that's too many fucking games, how's that even gonna go to the original creator's pockets? What about when the service no longer provides a certain game because they don't like it being there or they need to make room for another?

>>5492708
Any confirmation on this? This doesn't sound any better due to how incompetent Nintendo is at anything that involves internet.

[Anonymous No.5492914]

>streaming retro games
To be quite fucking honest, they couldn't have picked a worse medium for their product. They should have decided to go with mini consoles.

[Anonymous No.5492921]

>>5492914
It's tone deaf as all fuck. A retro games developer trying to pander to an audience that knows exactly how horrible that idea is. Either he's blissfully ignorant or a sick motherfucker.

[Anonymous No.5492947]

>>5492508
Who's the fucktard trying to push streaming gaming services everywhere suddenly? Who is responsible for this cancer? It's not only google, a lot of companies are trying to force this awful idea down everyone's throat.

Why this, and why now?

[Anonymous No.5492954]

>>5492947
>suddenly
Game streaming services are pushed since times of fast Internet connection everywhere.

[Anonymous No.5492957]

>>5492947
It was intended for a good while. If it doesn't work, push it again and again. The main goal is to control everything that you do or possess, so with this they have a way of controlling which content is available with no way of copying (so no piracy), no way of keeping it in case they take it down, and a perfect opportunity to profit from "updated" versions while getting rid of the older ones.

Along with this in the current political climate there's more of a desire to censor content and more people trying to release that kind of content as well.

[Anonymous No.5492970]

>>5492954
>>5492957
Thanks God old games aren't to big to handle and making copies of retro libraries is easy. I don't know how they're planning to stop us from sharing theses.

[Anonymous No.5492983]

>>5492508
Didn't watch because I don't like that channel.
Is the whole ROM copied to RAM, or is it being streamed remotely? Old games were able to be designed for very specific latency, because it was uniform across all CRTs. The feel of the entire game changes with even one frame's difference. Humans take about 200 milliseconds to react and press a button, but most can reliably time an anticipated press to within a single frame, ~16 milliseconds. My ping to game servers is usually at least 19.

[Anonymous No.5493030]

>>5492708
Don't open if you're a Nintendo investor

[Anonymous No.5493034]

>>5492508
Yes. When this service launches, every single retro console will immediately fail, and all physical retro media will cease to exist. You fucking moron.

[Anonymous No.5493037]

what is this a stream for ants?

[Anonymous No.5493041]

>>5492508
It's fucking retarded. You can't even play the original Mario with the kind of input lag this shit would have. And they most certainly don't have the kind of global server center network google does.

[Anonymous No.5493043]

Why can't they just ship something like retroarch, add some drm and download the roms from their own servers?

[Anonymous No.5493202]

>>5492508
>emulation is too big now
This. The cat has been out of the bag since the late 90s on emulation and you can't get it back in. In no way shape or form is any service or reselling of titles going to make a major impact. Emulation is generally simple, and requires a potato for a PC and anyone with half a brain knows this.

[Anonymous No.5494130]

It’s as if all of Gamehut’s annoying clickbait titles and thumbnails combined to form a bullshit streaming service that’ll be dead on arrival. This guy is industry veteran yet he really thinks money from this going to go back to the original devs?

[Anonymous No.5494140]

>>5492508
Fuck no.

* Down with digital landlords trying to cash in rent on long unprofitable IPs.
* Down with long term enforcement of copyright purely for profit purposes, without any added convenience or dissemination of culture.
* Down with the exploitation of the work of those who gave countless free work hours of their lives to preserve these games under rom format.

DECLARE PUBLIC DOMAIN STATUS FOR ALL +20 YEAR OLD ROMS NOW!

[Anonymous No.5494173]

>>5494130
>he really thinks money from this going to go back to the original devs?
He's just trying to make it seem charitable. Sounds better than "the money will go to the insurance company that bought the IP when the developer folded".

[Anonymous No.5494175]

>>5494140
I've been on post 2010 4chan for too long to tell if this is supposed to be a genuine post or some sort of satire.

[Anonymous No.5494179]

Umm.. I just want to play some old less than 100kb 80s c64 roms that I do actually own and used to play back then.. pay a monthly service? Streaming? I need to be connected to the net and sue bandwidth for that old game?

Uhh.. sure. No long gone publisher will make any money, he's simply trying to use a poor moral argument about piracy and publishers getting money when it's really about them making money.

Greasy snake oil sales talk. No thanks.

[Anonymous No.5494183]

This whole campaign and idea is so fucking funny... Only a brainwashed idiot would invest in this.

[Anonymous No.5494185]

>>5492601
Why? All he does is showcase visual tricks he pulled off to mask shitty gameplay. That or how he pushed Christian bullshit into his games.

[Anonymous No.5494196]

>>5494175
I've been on 4chan since 2006 and I could not be more serious. I for one, am tired of bullshit copyright enforcement and takeovers on emulation just because crappy gaming companies finally saw an opportunity to cash in after years of fans putting all work over their initial negligence.

It is a shameless disregard for culture and predatory re-aquisition for the sake of making a buck on something that has become the property of the commons on all practical aspects save for legal ones.

It does not help the preservation and dissemination of these games. It does not increase their accessibility, rather locking them behind digital walled gardens. It does not benefit the original creators, since the profit they would be getting would be residual, and they have moved on with their lives since and have mostly shown no interest in cashing back.

It's a pure scam by snake oil salesmen pretending to offer convenience while helping creators, when all they want is to extract profit of something that no longer belongs to them. To put a toll gate on a cultural highway that has been free for years, and has helped many to come in contact with games they never had access in the past.

[Anonymous No.5494224]

>>5494185
That's ultimately the sad truth of it, all the games he worked on are really swallow, Sonic R is a tech demo compared to Mario Kart 64 for example. In a similar way he always mask his videos with clickbait thumbails that rarely have anything to do with the actual video.

[Anonymous No.5494354]

>>5492957
>the first amendment only applies to the government, its cool when corporations censor you!

[Anonymous No.5494372]

>>5494185
>>5494224
*tips fedora*

Have some anal cream for that sore asshole

[Anonymous No.5494393]

A few months ago there were a lot of threads like "would you be interested in a Netflix for retro games?"

[Anonymous No.5494637]

>>5494372
I’d tip mine back but the streaming service I got it on shut down :(

[Anonymous No.5494646]

>>5492540
>no fiddly emulators
what kind of an absolute normie faggot would say stuff like "fiddly emulators"
May be its because im old - 34 and i stopped following EMU scene years ago when i got emulators for all my needs - you could emulate pretty much all famous consoles with good result may be with exception of N64
nobody in their sane mind would say stuff like "YAY NO MORE FIDDLY EMULATORS! :D"
did i missed something and EMU-scene swarmed with normies these days?

[Anonymous No.5494686]

>>5494140
This is so udderly retarded I also can't believe it's true. There is nothing inherently wrong with using open source emulators to and give money back to the devs who made the games they acquired, despite how angry you are about it.

[Anonymous No.5494690]

>>5494646
another extremely pretentious post, get a fucking life dude

[Anonymous No.5494693]

>>5492540
You're either a shill, or a normie nigger straight out of facebook. Kill yourself, my man. Your very existence brings the game industry down.

[Anonymous No.5494916]

>>5494686
I'm sure the people who worked long and hard on those open-source emulators were hoping that one day some guy would take them, lock them behind the cloud, and release a shitty selection of roms every month for a small fee.

[Anonymous No.5494928]

>>5492524
You answered your own question anon, remember that nintendo sold over 2mil copies of a ROM hack maker for full retail

[Anonymous No.5494930]

So, how will they source these ROMs? Will the original companies provide the master ROM files from their archives, will the owners of the service buy and dump these things themselves? Or will they just hop on archive.org or wherever and download some no-intro ROM sets for console titles, and arcade ROM dumps from wherever?

[Anonymous No.5495019]

>>5494690
not an argument

[Anonymous No.5495089]

I'm just wondering: Even though people would fucking riot for this, wouldn't there be a way to remove certain files by way of spyware?

Like let's say Microsoft gives in and all ROMs that can be publicly found on websites are listed as malware to be automatically deleted. Wouldn't that be possible?

[Anonymous No.5495090]

Remember when gamehut posted a video promoting a hate group?

[Anonymous No.5495098]

>>5495090
Lol what? You got a source on that?

[Anonymous No.5495191]

>>5495090
what?

[Anonymous No.5495196]

This is such a retarded idea on many levels. But there is one special one at work here, beyond the usual streaming bullshit.
Why the fuck would you stream retro games? The video data would be several orders of magnitude larger than the actual games and emulators unless it's a CD game. Even the biggest Nintendo 64 game is 68 megabytes. That's going to be what, half an hour's worth of gameplay in video?

[Anonymous No.5495201]

>>5492508
Didn't Seganet already do games as a service

so technically its not the "future"

[Anonymous No.5495204]

>>5495196
Not watching video because that guy is a lowkey bigot. Are they really proposing that? Not running it locally and making it seem like it's remote?

[Anonymous No.5495212]

>>5495204
He said his initial idea was to run the games locally, but he met this great group of chaps with a streaming service and they convinced him it was "the best of both worlds".

[Anonymous No.5495216]

>>5495204
>Not watching video because that guy is a lowkey bigot.
I've never heard of this guy, what do you mean by that?

[Anonymous No.5495313]

>>5495216
Seriously what the fuck is this and him supporting a hate group about?!

[Anonymous No.5495346]

>>5495313
Only thing I watched was that he put out a video on christian easter eggs on his games because he happens to be a christian.

[Anonymous No.5495354]

>>5495346
That video is fine, until he pushes alpha.org shit

[Anonymous No.5495357]

>>5495354
Is alpha.org a hate group?

[Anonymous No.5495361]

>>5495357
Every christian organization is inherently hateful.

[Anonymous No.5495369]

>>5495204
Bigot? Like a Liberal screaming about the LGBT community?

[Anonymous No.5495374]

>>5492508
They don't want us having computer anymore that aren't directly linked to something a much larger entity is in direct control of.

>They want to control all forms of speech and communication.

[Anonymous No.5495381]

>>5495361
Wow are you fucking dumb.

[Anonymous No.5496364]

>>5494693
This was such a low-energy shitpost that I don't even know which of his points you're trying to discredit.

[Anonymous No.5496367]

>>5494354
Where in his post did he say anything remotely like that?

[Anonymous No.5496370]

>>5494916
then that's their fault for making something open source? the guy isn't "stealing" the emulator away from everyone, it's still fucking there.

i'm so confused as to what you're even trying to argue here

[Anonymous No.5496371]

>>5493043
Because retroarch is shit not even normies would pay for.

[Anonymous No.5496374]

I’d love to have a bunch of games stored in the cloud with their emulators configured, ready to play. I’ll pay for it. I guess I’m a “normie” or something

[Anonymous No.5496375]

>>5495346
Christianity is obviously a hate group, you fascist pig.

[Anonymous No.5496396]

>>5496367
It's making fun of people who support private censorship, I wasn't implying that post supported it

[Anonymous No.5496416]

>>5495090
Most corporations support hate groups like BLM and the Democratic Party anyway.

[Anonymous No.5496427]

>>5496416
If not all, considering all of the are financed by the same group.

[Anonymous No.5496435]

>>5496427
So sick of Weimerica

[Anonymous No.5497076]

>>5496416
based schizo post

[Anonymous No.5497092]

>>5497076
You have no idea what schizo means.

[Anonymous No.5497128]

Even RetroRGB is calling them out on how stupid their idea sounds.

>"First and foremost, if people are going to pay a monthly fee to play these games, Antstream would have to provide much more than just a library of free-to-use arcade games, mixed with games that are available elsewhere like the Commodore 64 Mini. At the moment, almost all the games listed on their website are from much older platforms and while they’re in the midst of deals with SNK and others, legally licensing these games will most likely be a nightmare. It would be near-impossible to get Nintendo exclusives onto Antstream and other games from Sega and Neo Geo platforms are already legally available in emulation packages on other consoles. Will people be willing to shell out a monthly fee for the same games they can buy on the SNK collection on the Switch and own forever?"

Regardless, judging from their kickstarter, it looks like this utterly retarded business venture will get funded.It's only een 3 days and they're nearly 2/3 of the way there. Morons will throw their money away to pay a monthly bill to stream abandonware over an internet connection.

[Anonymous No.5497164]

>>5497128
>It would be near-impossible to get Nintendo exclusives onto Antstream
He uses Mario in his pitch, too. Implying that Nintendo is on board with this, which they clearly aren't. That's a bold move considering how litigious they are.