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5490249 No.5490249 [Reply] [Original]

There seems to be a lot of newfriends here spouting /v/ and /b/ bullshit in hopes that they fit in, so let's set the record straight.
>game aged badly
Video games do not age. If a game was good when it came out, it's good forever. You dont compare a game made in december of 1989 to a game made 20 years later. That's pants on head retarded.
You compare games to their CONTEMPORARIES (look it up) if you really must.
tldr: if you think a game "aged" you actually just suck and are making excuses
>people who own physical games are hoarders
Look up the definition of "hoarding" and try again.
We know this is a case of jealousy, so just stop.
>people who buy games are harming the market!
Either you want to own the game, or you want to emulate. Make up your mind and stop being the fox who cant reach the grapes.
>why do people pretend to like this shit game?
Nobody in the history of ever has pretended to like a game. That's fucking retarded. You just suck
>you own video games? You're just LARPing on the internet/looking for brownie points/want to impress your friends.
First of all, you literally can not LARP (LIVE ACTION roleplay) on the internet. Again, look up the definition of this word instead of being a dumb asshole.
Internet brownie points are not a thing and nobody thinks it's a thing and nobody wants them.
Nobody in the history of ever has EVER paid for a game just to impress someone. Stop obsessing over vanity. Video games dont make you look cool, so you have no reason to be jealous of people who can afford them.
>just emulate! It's the same thing
Nope. Emulation is fundamentally different to real hardware. Emulation will always have visual and audio bugs, or run at a slightly faster or slower speed. Also, lmfao try emulating Saturn.

Welcome to the hobby. please assimilate to our culture or shut the fuck up.

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i disagree

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I, too, disagree.

>> No.5490274

Does Metroid 1 compared to its sequels fall under that contemporary point? Because it's extremely hard to go back to the first game with its weird knockback, samey looking areas, and emphasis on grinding for resources.
I say this as someone who loves all of the Metroid games, and I actually really enjoy the simple combat of the first game, where beams were quite weak and missiles were king, instantly morphing and dropping bombs was satisfying too, it's just the exploration part that chaps my ass.

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Games don’t age but they do become dated

>> No.5490285

>>5490249
DAISY A CUTE C T U E CTUE!

>> No.5490323

I love dated 3D models so fucking much you guys wouldn't even begin to understand how happy those make me feel inside.

>> No.5490356

>>5490249

>fundamentally different

this makes it sound like there's huge differences between emulation and the real thing. the differences at this point are so minor you have to be a complete autist to really care. speaking of pre-saturn stuff. even ps1 emulation is pretty fantastic at this point.

>> No.5490359

>>5490249
Saged. Also your opinions/rules doesn't matter, since YOU aged badly

>> No.5490396

>>5490249
I ain't justifying this shitty bait with a proper reply and you know damn well why you shitposting son of a disappointed mother.

>> No.5490403

>>5490249
All arguments are fine except about games aging. Of course I'm going to compare every game to the current standard because that's the time I live in and I've got an entire library of games to choose from and plenty more to buy, so if something has been outdone and become obsolete, then I'm not going to bother with it.

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>>5490249
>Esl kids still don't understand English concepts

I don't know why it's so hard for you, but it's funny that it is.

>> No.5490538

>>5490284
No, you and your perception aged

>> No.5490549

>>5490249
>You dont compare a game made in december of 1989 to a game made 20 years later.
I disagree with this. You can, and should, compare older games to contemporary games. If the older games don't look as graceful in comparison to the newer games, that's not a mark against the older game's quality, but if it still compares favorably to contemporary games, that makes the older game that much more commendable.

>> No.5490575

Why are there so many third worlders shitting up this board lately?

You dumbasses get your first $20 android and just go buck wild with the garbage.

>> No.5490581

>>5490575
It's almost like retro games are cheap and accessible to pirate

>> No.5490585

>>5490581
We should take the average IQ of Brazil as a baseline, add +5, and region ban every country under that threshold.

>> No.5490589

>>5490585
Sounds good

>> No.5490591

>>5490585
You don't seem to understand how IP addresses work

>> No.5490621

>>5490538
Art doesn't mean anything until it's perceived.

>> No.5490703

>Nobody in the history of ever has EVER paid for a game just to impress someone. Stop obsessing over vanity.

Completely and utterly disagree. It doesn't have to be an expensive watch or set of clothes. If it's valued highly by someone and difficult to come across, some people will genuinely be impressed, and some people will boast about owning it. Whether there's enough interest / it's effective to boast is a different thing, and that's not what collectors do on average, but still you cannot just say "nobody".

>Nope. Emulation is fundamentally different to real hardware. Emulation will always have visual and audio bugs, or run at a slightly faster or slower speed. Also, lmfao try emulating Saturn.

This comes from an uninformed perspective. It's fundamentally different because it's emulation, but visual and audio bugs are minor to non-existent in many cases for older platforms. Levels of accuracy have been reached to where only homebrew demos can tap into the limitations of accurate emulators. Many emulators are in fact exactly as fast as the real hardware and designed that way. And many Saturn games can be emulated properly through Mednafen without any visual or audio glitches either.

Please refrain from doing blanket statements without doing proper research.

>> No.5490714

>>5490621
Your opinion doesn't mean anything

>> No.5490769

>the issue is people disagreeing with me instead of people bringing in /v/'s super-ironic cancer culture of wojaks and soys
expected about as much from a daisyfag

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>>5490249
Your time is over gramps, don't you have a rocking chair to keep warm?

But seriously some games were always shit but we had no frame of reference. Now that we do have something to compare them to, we realize how bad they are.

>> No.5490809

>>5490776
More games suck ass today. You corporate drone money.

>> No.5490816

>>5490249
Emulation is fine though, you fucking faggot pretending that you arent from /v/.Its literally how people played games like SD3 or FE4. Only a stupid shitposter gets caught up in caring how other people play retro games.

>> No.5490820

>>5490249
Sounds like a hoarder trying justify their pile of poorly aged and outdated kids games that he pretends to like to me.

>> No.5490831

>>5490249
As amusing as your post is, you're wrong on many points.

>First of all, you literally can not LARP (LIVE ACTION roleplay) on the internet.

Your devotion to technicality made me chuckle. LARP has been turned into a simile for pretending in general.

>Internet brownie points are not a thing

I take it you have never been on social media, in the history of ever.

>Nope. Emulation is fundamentally different to real hardware. Emulation will always have visual and audio bugs, or run at a slightly faster or slower speed.

This is true, but I have never experienced anything significant in the 5th or 4th gen emulation that I use.

>Stop obsessing over vanity. Video games dont make you look cool, so you have no reason to be jealous of people who can afford them.

That's why I get a ton of likes when I post my cool shit on Instagram.

>> No.5490928

>>5490538
Everything ages

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>>5490249
Sorry mr gamer. Please assert your gamer cock some more while I go admire some medievil paintings that was good then so it must still be good today

>> No.5490981

>>5490928
No.

>> No.5490994

>>5490809
Not really. Sturgeon's Law, my bro - 90% of everything is crap. That has applied true to video games from 22nd gen, 3rd, 4th, etc.. all the way to today.

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>>5490981
Sorry, but yes. Don't worry though, I won't keep lecturing you to try to help you understand anymore. If you're content being ignorant about simple English phrasing and what it means that's your choice.

>> No.5490998

>>5490994
What are games like in the 22nd gen anon from the future?

>> No.5491015

>>5490998
10% of them are good, and the rest of them are crap.

>> No.5491018

>>5490249
Welcome to /vr/ newfriend. I'm sorry some of your fellow younglings have triggered you. You realize you are literally LARPing about being a non-youngling, right?
>please assimilate to our culture
Get fucked kid

>> No.5491019

>>5491015
That's bullshit and you know it. Everyone knows 21st gen was the last even slightly good one.

>> No.5491038

If you own the original cartridge, you don't really OWN that game. The data is trapped inside a plastic cartridge that WILL eventually stop working, no matter how many times you repair it.

Emulation is the only way to REALLY own a game forever, knowing that its data will be intact no matter what.

>> No.5491053

>>5491019
xXxLuv2T0ke2054xXx, my nemesis! You followed me back in time!

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>>5491038
>knowing that its data will be intact no matter what.
*EMPs your path*

>> No.5491326

>>5490585
Disappointing to see racist idiots on /vr/. Stupidity is found everywhere, and you should know that.

That's the whole point of taking an average, because there is variation in intelligence.

>> No.5491348

>>5490249
>people who own physical games are hoarders
collecting != hoarding, but it's still possible to hoard games.

>> No.5491359

>>5491038
>own a game cartridge
>it can only be played on specific hardware
>if it is broken or stolen, then you no longer have access to the game

>download a rom
>it can be played on almost anything
>can be copied and re-downloaded as many times as you want

>> No.5491372

>>5491359
See, I'd rather have something that can be reproduced an unlimited amount of times, even if everyone else got access to it, than owning a thing that I only get access to until some faggot takes it from me.

>> No.5491440

>>5491038
This is literally the ONLY reason I pirate movies too.

I don't like buying a fucking disc and having the movie be trapped inside, fearing that it will get scratched or degraded over time. I'd rather download the actual .mkv file and preserve it forever in my hard drive.

>> No.5491458 [DELETED] 

>>5490249
I want to fuck Daisy

>> No.5491481

>>5490249
You started out fine then turned the rest of your post into an autistic hissy fit because you got called out for being a collectorfag before. Are you that guy with the filthy nails by any chance?

>> No.5491510

>don't compare a game made in december of 1989 to a game made 20 years later
So what you are saying is old games are antiquated pieces that cannot be compared because, logically, they are inferior? While is is true that technology was more limited, this argument suggests new is better than old, that a comparison cannot be made because new will always be better. This is not the case.

I don't limit myself to games made in the 90s because of nostalgia, to appreciate something that is "antique". I touch 90s titles as they were objectively better than 2010 titles. The bare essential medium of CDs and shovelware versus internet and cloud-based Steam means there is no real exception to this rule, it is the method of distribution itself which will lead it to be inferior even if the games itself were duplicated.

Games can age certainly, but aging suggests the originals sucked and was something we just tolerated. A well functional medium cannot age because the design felt functional.

>owning games
I praise people who gather collections. The more we collect, the better, as the medium is rarely respected and so our past is doomed to fade. Everyone will log Doom, sure, but who will log Prince of Destruction?

>> No.5491516

>>5490249
You are spouting complete bullshit about emulation. What's next? That roms contain viruses?

You sound like the typical ignorant normie who thinks roms are literally bootleg chinese versions of the physical game, lmao.

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>>5490575

OP here. I'm a New Yorker and I've been on /vr/ since the day it was made. Lick my asshole.

>> No.5491559

>>5491550
>I'm a new yorker
so from a third world country, got it.

>> No.5491580

>>5490769
>>5490816
>>5491018

See >>5491550

>> No.5491627

>>5491550
Maybe if the OP didn't make that last thing about emulation being fundamentally different, as if that isn't how we got to enjoy so many more games we didn't have access to growing up, I might believe he isn't shitposter. Me playing SD3 on a retro arch with beetle core isn't a fundamentally different experience from someone who bought the nip version of it.

On /vr/ before shitposters like that OP showed up, you would just talk about games and not make a big deal if you emulated it or not. It was understood that original hardware is better but it's fine not dropping hundreds of dollars on a copy of Chrono Trigger and just emulating it.

>> No.5491675

>>5491627

The problem isnt people emulating, it's people throwing a fucking fit if you DONT emulate.

>> No.5491695

>>5490249
>Video games do not age.
Yeah they do kid. Some do very poorly. Some don't.
>Emulation will always have visual and audio bugs, or run at a slightly faster or slower speed
Fuck off that is complete horse shit.
>lmfao try emulating Saturn
I've been emulating saturn since the mid 2000s and ive finished a lot of games via saturn emulation.

>> No.5491698

>>5491675
It's both sides. You have zoomers throw a fit saying that someone owning hardware is a hoarder. Than you have people who say that if you emulate a game then you are fundamentally experiencing something different. Sure in some extreme cases like if you're on a phone emulating Street Fighter 2 is a bad experience and fundamentally different because of it, but I would think that most of /vr/ would have a decent computer just for modern gaming and can emulate just fine. The OP is just adding fuel to the fire that he supposedly is against, which is why he was being called a LARPer himself.

>> No.5491701

Do you have autism or asperger, OP?

>> No.5491720

>>5491698
I think you need to embrace that when you see the extreme opinions expressed they're either trolls or idiots. There will always be those, just take it with a grain of salt. Trolls want to rile up distress and the idiots aren't worth the bother.

>> No.5491742

>>5490538
Thats the point. When people say a game aged, what they means is that the perception of that game has changed due to shifting standards in design philosophy. Nobody is implying the game itself changed.

>> No.5491758

>>5490714
>>5490621
Yes it does. We ascribe "value" to games based on our non-objective evaluation of it's qualities. How can we partition that evaluation away from our other experiences in an attempt to retain a perspective that no longer actually exists? Saying that games age is simply an acknowledgement that our own perception changes as we age and experience things.

>> No.5491814

>>5491698
I still feel the anti-physical side is way more vocal, QED just last week we had three threads at once railing against collecting, one of which is still up. I can't say I've ever seen more than a single OP complain about emulation at any give time.

>> No.5491817

>>5491814
Oh well I guess since it was three threads as opposed to one, then it's fine to shitpost two more threads?

>> No.5491826

>>5491758
No it doesn't. Fuck off already.

>> No.5492182

>>5491580
>See >>a dumb kid larping
We've all seen that, dumb larping kid

>> No.5492224

>>5490249
>getting mad because people wont play the game on real hardware
why do i keep on coming back to /vr/ i know its the same shit but i keep on coming back.

>> No.5492251

>>5492224

>interpreting the complete opposite of what you read.

Fucking wow.

It was a criticism on people who throw a tantrum if you DONT emulate.

>> No.5492259

>>5490714
Then why are you triggered by them? Check mate faggot.

>> No.5492267

Ummm bros... YU-NO is kinda shit. The MC is literal nihilist with a wicked sense of humor who also happens to be a mature highschooler enough to where he hangs out with teachers with the strongest Oedipus complex I've seen in a VN.

>> No.5492273

>>5490249
>Video games do not age.
But sadly, people do. I would have most likely loved to play through Shining Force III when I was 14 years old. But today many years down the road playing through a traditional JRPG gives no feeling of accomplishment, engagement, or adventure. I am not challenging myself to finish a game which is reputedly dozens of hours in length. I am not seeing cutting edge 32 bit graphics.

>it's good forever.
for who? in the real world, who is it good for? Does a 14 year old today want to play Shining Force III? What do they get out of it? For them the experience would be completely different. It would seem exotic only because of its age. Accomplishment only coming from the idea of completing something retro. A good time perhaps. Or perhaps not.

I don't subscribe to the notion of judging anything in a vacuum.

>> No.5492337

>>5491326
This is the shit I'm talking about. Of course we know how averages work, do you think you're intelligent for pointing it out? Board quality would still go up if we region banned cesspools like Huezil.

>> No.5492702

>>5492337
I'm a big fan of anonymous free speech but your argument is sound. It's an objective fact that a large portion of shitposts come from that shitstain of a country. How many unretarded posts would be lost by that ban is the question. So simple straw poll. If you're a huefag write a coherent sentence explaining why your entire 3rd world shithole shouldn't be banned.

>> No.5492705

>>5492702
huehuehue gib gold or i report u

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>>5490249
Context is for kings.

>> No.5493136

>>5490249
Why would I be envious of what's essentially a sticker collection? I just like to play them. I got a Kobo just because I hate touching books.

>> No.5494490

>>5490249
>Nobody in the history of ever has pretended to like a game.
that isn't true though