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DOOM THREAD / RETRO FPS THREAD - Last thread >>5473935

DOOM/II/ULTIMATE/FINAL/64/CHEX/QUAKE/DUKE/ETC
Gameplay, WADs/Maps/Mods, Source Ports
All other retro FPS welcome
~~ Let's post like gentlemen ~~

FAQ/PASTEBIN
http://pastebin.com/hzDnLpct

SO YOU WANT TO PLAY SOME...
Doom, Quake, Duke, Marathon, or Thief:
https://imgur.com/a/wWS8zXz
-Album of infographics with setup information and user-made content recommendations

Same thing, but in video format:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ietb4JwaaXA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CGj4gXyCzg0

IWADs and more (>3 GB): https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B47V8l2eVZKxRU82S3JkZkdBRXM
PortaDOOM: https://github.com/Kroc/PortaDOOM/releases
Quake pastebin (2016-06-22): http://pastebin.com/XjBHDRFw
Downloads for various /vr/ shooters. (Includes Duke Nukem, Doom, Blood, and Quake.)
https://mega.nz/#F!QXIk1bjB!NHRWGIfjcc77PyGgRlga4Q
https://mega.nz/#F!GtEQTISJ!CCJGyPEEEsZasc1PMXicUA

Doom RPG series
https://doomrpg.weebly.com/

Launchers for Build Engine games
http://buildgamedosboxlaunchers.weebly.com/

== INFO/LINKS ==

OFFICIAL DOOM WIKI
http://doomwiki.org/

WHERE TO FIND WADS
Vanilla/Boom: https://www.doomworld.com/forum/4-wads-mods/
ZDoom: http://forum.zdoom.org/viewforum.php?f=19
/idgames: https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/

TUTORIALS/UTILITIES
https://pastebin.com/7vKYWYp0

RESOURCES
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewforum.php?f=37

== /VR/DOOM COMMUNITY ==

THREAD ARCHIVES
https://desuarchive.org/vr/search/text/%22doom%20thread%22/type/op/

MAKING NEW THREADS PROPERLY
https://pastebin.com/yzwgaLp7

IMAGE DATABASE
http://vrdoom.booru.org/?page=post&s=list

OUR WADS
http://pastebin.com/5sKRiJzS
http://pastebin.com/aiEgdB3K
https://pastebin.com/idahQRj2

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=== NEWS ===

[4-4] New vanilla mapping trick allows for voodoo doll conveyor belts
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/105364-did-you-know-you-can-make-a-voodoo-conveyor-belt-in-vanilla-doom/

[4-2] Switcher-Heretic project looking for mappers, remaking levels in Doom
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/105315-community-project-switcher-heretic/

[4-1] Plutonia 3 announced as an actual thing, not an April Fool's
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/105326-plutonia-3-boom-compatible-megawad/

[3-30] BloodGDX author binds his Blood, Tekwar, and Witchaven ports together as BuildGDX
https://m210.duke4.net/index.php/downloads/download/8-java/53-buildgdx

[3-26] SM194 for Q1 released; 14 maps each on a 64 unit grid
http://celephais.net/board/view_thread.php?id=61702

[3-26] Anon map release: Phobos Station
https://mega.nz/#!Sy5hGaKC!d16N4GKXcOYthn2ONDXw9d5DOC0maoMZatR2ruo0XBM

[3-26] Doom Eternal confirmed for a Steam release
https://twitter.com/bethesda/status/1110225138979651584

[3-24] James 'Jimmy' Paddock providing music for Romero's Sigil
https://twitter.com/JamesPaddock/status/1109737028571164672

[3-21] Hedon released, a standalone game using GZDoom
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=56480

[3-21] A Quake 2 RTX implementation project now taken all the way by Nvidia
https://www.pcgamesn.com/nvidia/quake-ii-rtx-nvidia-ray-tracing

[3-20] Recent gameplay footage of Nightdive's System Shock remake
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JdiaIRkjpI0

[3-19] id Software to release Doom Eternal on Google Stadia

[3-18] System Shock 3 teaser premiered at GDC
https://youtu.be/j--cFOyeT7E

[3-16] WitchavenGDX & TekwarGDX updated as part of beta BuildGDX multilauncher
http://m210.duke4.net/

[3-14] Google announces id software's presence at GDC
https://twitter.com/googledevs/status/1105964410168721409

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=== PROTIP ===

To submit news, please reply and anchor it to this post.

>> No.5482839

>>5482821
Add noise, grainy gradients, overall darker colors.

>> No.5482840
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>>5482821

pls helap

>> No.5482841

>>5482821
>>5482840
It's a "how do i shot web" kind of question

>> No.5482878

Posted this on the last thread few mins ago, but since the thread was just abandoned I post it here:

>Does anyone have the tutorial picture about importing sculpted 3d models into Doom as sprites? It was posted on past threads some weeks ago, but I can't find it anymore.

>> No.5482898

how to win a Cacoward
>make a square room
>put 100 Revenants in it
>*clap clap clap* amazing level design not like in COD
alternatively
>make a boring as fuck eye candy like Hellbound
>*clap clap looks so amazing I cri evritiem*
what happened to wads like Requiem?

>> No.5482910

>>5482898
don't be so hyperbolic

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>don't be so hyperbolic

>> No.5482924

small maps like like in Scythe > labyrinthian piece of shit like Valhalla

>> No.5482927

>>5482878
>>5482915
Not him, but hyperbolic means exaggerating. You were exaggerating. There's plenty good modern cacowards wads that aren't made in slaughter style, like Dimension Of The Boomed last year, or Japanese Community Project at 2016. If you don't want to play any of modern wads, have you considered that maybe you don't just like Doom anymore. You propably enjoy old wads, because of the nostalgia.

Requiem is great though, I have to respect you for that.

>> No.5482929

Reminder that the next big step in La Tailor Girl's development should be adding a cute boy.

>> No.5482953 [DELETED] 

>>5482929
stfu you kiddie fidler

>> No.5482956

>>5482927
Excuse me, I was just passing through, but I want to ask you a question.

In the context of discussing community-made levels, do you tend to throw around word "talent" or words "incredible talent" - and, if yes, then on what grounds do you think yourself capable of spotting said "talent"?

>> No.5482957

>>5482840
Practice. Study other artists, practice.

>> No.5482960

>>5482957
>Ape. Parrot others, ape.

>> No.5482964

>>5482960
Yes, that's how art works. You steal, you edit, you learn.
Or you could just sit here and bitch, accomplishing nothing.

>> No.5482967

>>5482964
Who said you are good at spotting what's art, and what's not art.

>> No.5482979 [DELETED] 

>>5482915
Kill yourself.

>> No.5482983

>>5482956
Someone is talented if they consistently do something better than most other people do, or add their own well done twists to it, that makes it distinctly "theirs".

For maps that is: good geometry and flow, creative use of textures and overall good texturework. Talented people put their mark onto things they apply their talent to.

>> No.5482985

>>5482960
You pick the works of others apart and see what works, what does not, and how to use stuff that works in your own creation.
That's how you learn if you don't want to bother with straight up tutorials (or if those don't exist)

>> No.5482995

>>5482983
1) Can the quality of the individual piece of the content be assessed completely separately from its intended purpose in the context of its appearance?

2) How do you distinguish between significant and superficial elements of a given individual level?

>> No.5482998

>>5482995
Yes
Doesn't matter if its significant or superstitial

>> No.5483003
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>>5482223
>autistic hack writer judging simulator
>better than anything

>> No.5483004

>>5482998
Okay, you are presented with the most impressive visually Doom level you have ever seen. The intended path of progression is walking 100 steps along the perfectly straight line. You cannot step off of it due to invisible walls or maybe steps just high enough you can't climb/jump them (for vanilla and jumping-enabling ports respectively). All the insane sectoral detailing and texturework exist only as a backdrop. There are no monsters on the level and naturally no secrets on the straight line you are allowed to walk along.

Your verdict?

>> No.5483007

>>5483004
Naturally, you also don't have weapons, can't break anything, there are no doors you can open (although numerous doors you can see) and no interactable buttorns/switches other than the one that lets you exit the level.

>> No.5483008

you realise that poster was a troll, right?

>> No.5483009

>>5483004
>>5483007
Stop pulling things out of your ass and push them back in

>> No.5483013

>>5483009
Way to evade the question you evidently don't want to answer.

>> No.5483017

>>5483013
Nobody would want to answer your questions if as soon as you get them you start arguing about semantics of the answer and employ reckless casuistry
now go and shove it up your arse faggot you will enjoy it I promise

>> No.5483018

>>5483004
good art piece, bad video game level, probably wouldn't get a cacoward because video games are meant to be played

>> No.5483023
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>>5482964
>art is added on plagiarization

>> No.5483028

>>5483023
Not plagiarization. But you steal, tear it apart, learn from it, and take your own spin on it.

>> No.5483029

>>5483017
Whatever.
On a sidenote, due to our little discussion, I just realized, words "instrumental" and "instrumentality" might be really good
I am sorry
_INSTRUMENTS_ for means of level-design analysis or attempts at such. Judging by online dictionaries, they even happen to mean precisely what I thought they would.
Sweeeeeet.

>> No.5483037

>>5483017
And, by the way, what I employed is rather called "reduction to absurdity"..

>> No.5483038

>>5483028
Why do you think you will be able to use what you stole appropriately?

>> No.5483043

>>5483038
>stole
>what is reading comprehension

>> No.5483047

>>5483043
Don't bother, it's more trolling.

>> No.5483048

>>5483038
if you can't learn anything from works of others there is no helping you
you are lost cause
go wallow in your misery

>> No.5483071

>>5482835
Ey, where da Sigil at?

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>someone discovers a new doom vanillia trick
>graf throws a fucking tantrum because he would have to rewrite half of gzdoom to support it

classic

>> No.5483091

>>5482836
>BuildGDX

Would be interesting if this eventually covers ALL the Build Engine games.

>> No.5483092

Does lower resolution on zandronum tanks performance? The frist level on Hell on Earth had some hiccups and I thought "well, this may be too much for my toaster" and I tweaked here and there,fiddled with resolution.Still had hiccups and what not, but much more playable and went on until map 13. Trying to resume it today, I had black screen, I went and resized to my original high resolution so I could enter the game and... it was butter smooth? Even the first level. What gives?

>> No.5483109

>>5482927
>You propably enjoy old wads, because of the nostalgia.
load of shit those wads were consideered ancient by the time I first played them they were just straight up less retarded

>> No.5483169

>>5482898
>>5482915
Salty-ass bitch.

>> No.5483171

>>5482929
A loli.

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>>5482835
Don't mind me, just the best Retro FPS checking in.

>> No.5483195

>>5483192
GET HER

>> No.5483196

>>5483192
Never played it.

>> No.5483238

>>5483196
It's a classic in my mind. Unique guns, unmatched multiplayer customization, endless replayability, but held back by incredibly shitty frame rates. It was remastered for 360 in 2010 @ 1080p 60fps. Online MP was pretty much DOA. With Xbox moving towards a service, I am hoping it lands on PC eventually.

>> No.5483305

>>5483192
That's not Unreal.

>> No.5483309

>>5483090
>not even strict doom compatibility
guess it's time to learn to set up prboom+

>> No.5483360

>>5483090
Mappers could always just script gzdoom levels to do the same thing without voodoo.

>> No.5483387

>>5483238
Kind of hoping something happens with Rare Replay, which has the 360 PD port.

>> No.5483390
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>>5482821

Don't try to waste your time sticking with the palete. Get messy. Use a black pencil with soft borders to add shadows and a think bright pencil to add details, then import to the wad and let Slade adjust the colors automatically. Don't be afraid of being filthy, because Adrian Carmack certainly wasn't. The messier it is, the more natural it will look.

>> No.5483402

>>5482840
you dont have to use just one color even if armor is entirely green, look into dithering but dont overdo it, take a look at existing sprites and see how they use different colors, explosive barrel is a good example

>> No.5483424

>>5483238
>I am hoping it lands on PC eventually.
You just know there are gonna be mods to replace all the assets with the stuff from Goldeneye 64.

>> No.5483425

>>5483424
Probably. Someone modded the GE stuff into the N64 version of PD so you can have multiplayer bots and whatnot. Goldeneye X

>> No.5483441

>>5483023
dude thinks he knows anything about art. The best pieces of art stole from others. Romeo and Juliet is repeated until today on many movies, books, you call it.

>> No.5483448

>>5483309
You really think Graf would be able to not fuck up vanilla compatibility? GZDoom's a whole new engine, my dude. Monsters will behave differently to level geometry in ZDoom ports than they would in accurate ports/OG Doom. I know this from a shitload of playtesting on various sourceports.

>> No.5483450

>>5483448
>what are compatibility settings

>> No.5483458

>>5483450
That's what I meant when I said "vanilla compatibility" in my previous post, it's not accurate to actual vanilla, one example is that in vanilla Cacos will not alter flying height when shot, but they do in GZDoom anyways, even with strict Doom compatibility. I also think that for GZDoom you also can't close a door while it is opening if what caused the action was a demon, but in vanilla you can. Haven't played GZDoom in a long time so you can probably prove me wrong. I can't check.

>> No.5483459

>>5483458
Can't, or won't?

>> No.5483461

Map12 in Back to Saturn X ep1 is fucking fantastic.

>> No.5483480
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Video gay here.
Half-Life is next, I certainly put this one on hold for way too long.
Since HL doesn't require a sourceport like Doom or Quake there isn't a lot of setup to deal with, but I figured I could mention how retail differs from the source version and the modern steam release I'm not as versed on this engine so I should look into that. and also bring up Xash3D.

In any case are you anons still okay with me posting occasional progress on thread relevant video guides or should I just drop them normally on the wild from now on? I will still take suggestions either way.

>> No.5483490

>>5483480
cool, anon

>> No.5483535

Hello gentlemen. I don't know if you remember, but I made a mod called JohnnyDoom a few years ago that had a game breaking bug. It's fucking finally fixed and you should play it.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/zqqdg9z84as5r0o/JohnnyDoomFINAL.pk3?dl=0

>> No.5483573

>>5483535
I've been waiting for this. You're a real hero.

>> No.5483575

>>5483535
How are we supposed to know anything of what to expect when you provide no description or screenshot? Do you think we're sluts who will gladly take on any mod that gets tossed in our general direction?

>> No.5483579

>>5483573
I did it for you bb

>>5483575
lol I mean kinda. WINKY FACE here's the zdoom thread, I don't want to paste a big ol wall of text in here. It's fast paced arcadey gameplay with lots of explosions.
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=47229

>> No.5483598

>>5483535
Fucking amazing. Well done, lad.

>> No.5483610

>>5483598
my man! I'm happy you enjoyed!!

>> No.5483684
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So... is there seriously no way to make GZDoom switch signal output to a native 640x480 instead of just stretching to your current desktop resolution? I have a CRT and play at 640x480 160hz, this was straightforward to set up with Crispy Doom and PrBoom+, but I'm not seeing any way to do that here. I've also tried forcing 640x480 in Windows' compatibility menu but not even that works.

>> No.5483689

>>5483091
BuildGDX covers Blood, Tekwar and Witchaven 1
RedneckGDX covers RR, Rides Again, Duke3D, NAM and most likely WWII GI too
This leaves Shadow Warrior, Powerslave, Redneck Deer Huntin', Witchaven 2, Legend of the Seven Paladins, demo of unreleased game Fate and of course Extreme Paintbrawl.
Shadow Warrior and Witchaven 2 shouldn't be too hard to add, considering that source code is available for both and not counting Powerslave that's every major game.
At this point I think it's just a question of time.

>> No.5483709

>>5483689
No, you don't understand.
ALL
L
L
the Build Engine games.

>> No.5483721

>>5483709
I have to wonder how feasible such a thing is.

>> No.5483732

>>5483709
That's what I said.
It's just a question of time, before M210 lays his hands on them and make them just like the rest.

>> No.5483803
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I know Aleph one is not super accurate, but Marathon really feels...weird, it feels floaty and jittery, on top of that it feels claustrophobic like someone set the FOV wrong.

>> No.5483813

>>5483803
Aleph One is garbage, but it's the only way to play Marathon and nobody seems to want to fix any of the issues so we just gotta deal with it sadly.

>> No.5483864

>>5482835
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iVkQkO8lywU
Turok alpha footage

>> No.5483867
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g-guys?
https://www.patreon.com/posts/zan-dakimakura-25891221

>> No.5483892

>>5482835
>our wads
are there any quake maps made by anons?

>> No.5483893

>>5483480
Is it a SO YOU WANT TO PLAY HALF LIFE video?

>> No.5483896

>>5483893
I think it is

>> No.5483901

>>5483535
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OCv1Cmygm30
Does it still have this intro?

>> No.5483904

>>5483867
Never thought I would see an official body pillow for a retro style FPS.

>> No.5483915
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>>5483893
>>5483896
Yes its going to be one of those
I was trying to come up with an alternate title since this one wont be based on an existing "SO YOU WANT TO PLAY SOME" chart, but maybe its for the best to leave it at that.

>> No.5483919

>>5483904
I just realized that that is probably the only time I will ever type out that particular sequence of words in my life.

>> No.5483925

>>5483904
>official body pillow of hunter or crash never
fuck
>>5483915
well I cant think of anything, you are going to include gunman chronicles right?

>> No.5483932

>>5483904
Which happens to be a free mod for Doom, even

>> No.5483943
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>>5483867
/ourguy/

>> No.5483950

>>5483901
looool it has a new one with a jet flyover! not sure I'll ever top that one though

>> No.5483953

>>5483867
does it come with a custom 3d printed dildo?

>> No.5483962
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>>5483867
>no dick
would support/10

>> No.5484028

>>5483480
Poor, borney. Don't hit him wif that crow bor

>> No.5484032
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>>5483390
>>5483402
thanks, i'll see what i can make of this
if i could learn to use blender from nothing within a weekend, i can learn to throw some pixels into a comprehensive shape

>> No.5484036

>>5483867
LOL

>> No.5484045

>>5484032
learning 3D takes a whole lot longer than that
you may wanna give Sculptris a shot, its better for visual folk and its free

>> No.5484085

>>5483867
he's bad at anatomy

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>>5483867
That's an ugly body.

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>>5484129
the /ic/fag in me wants to scream

>> No.5484182

>>5483867
The asteroid that wipes us all out is overdue

>> No.5484207

>>5484129
> made of playdoh

>> No.5484216

>>5482878
I thought the REKKR guy did that.

>> No.5484240

>>5484216
Yes, but not very good t b h

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>>5482878

>> No.5484290

>>5483867
Jesus these fucking proportions are hideous. What's with that tiny-ass head and the weird six-pack roidgut hanging over her loincloth?

t. artist

>> No.5484297

>>5483684
Aside from making 640x480 your display resolution - no.

>> No.5484315

>quake 2 rtx
>not quakespasm rtx
why we can't have nice things?

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>>5483192

>> No.5484329

>>5483867
did caco-bro draw this?

>> No.5484334

>>5484131
off topic but is the sticky enough to learn the basics?

>> No.5484349

>try qzdoom devbuild out of curiosity because of newfangled experimental stage vulkan support
>it's a single toggle in a submenu in display options
>performance is the exact same
I don't know what I expected.

>> No.5484365

>>5484349
Have you restarted before testing?
Also most strain in GZDoom comes not from rendering, but from parsing all the actor/script logic and nothing can be done about that.

>> No.5484482

>>5483092
I've had something similar and as good as I guessed (I'm almost sure, like, 90%), it was my swap file that went a little too much oversize (had too much fun with several browsers with a lot of open tabs and also with a Photoshop. Don't do it).

>> No.5484521

As I understand, SLIGE does not generate maps playable from the get-go because after generation it needs to be processed through node builder. So, is there a way to do it automatically, maybe some 3rd-party program?

>> No.5484546

>>5484365
there's a noticeable drop in my frame rate when I load diabolus ex and turn on ambient occlusion. I was hoping Vulkan would help but not apparently.

>> No.5484553

>>5484546
Turn on Multisampling up to x2 (not FXAA)
Trust me, it will help due to the way AO works.

>> No.5484657

>>5483867
I would've considered it if he'd had the sense to get a better artist to do it.

>> No.5484676
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> trying to look up D4 item pics for reference
> one of the first results is pic related

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>>5483904

>> No.5484686

>>5483192
Had anyone made a Perfect Dark weapon wad for Doom yet? I'd be surprised if no one has.

>> No.5484704

>>5484553
I'll have to try that, see if it does something for my case. thanks for the tip. ty either way.

>> No.5484716

>>5484704
Multisampling x2 reduces ammount of AO processed by half (you will get more subdued AO effect, which is better IMO), while itself has very low performance impact. In the end you get about 7-10% performance boost With AO+MSx2 compared to just AO

>> No.5484740

>>5483684
This has been really bugging me post 3.5

Setting resolution seems almost meaningless.

>> No.5484741

>>5484676
>mod db
found your problem

>> No.5484746

>>5483192
have you played goldeneye X? some guy recreated most of goldeneye inside the PD engine. goldeneye guns with reload animations omg

>> No.5484778
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5484778

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PwngnOCWIZo

I remember hearing about this recently, kinda cool to see these autists still going at it

>this motherfucker seriously did 50k attempts of fucking E1M1

>> No.5484810

>>5483732
>That's what I said.
Oh no you didn't. There is one more game you didn't mention.

>> No.5484814

>>5483803
What makes you think it differs from original material in that regard?
Listen. Marathon is simply not a particularly good game mechanically. Deal with it - or not.

>> No.5484815

>>5484778
damn

>> No.5484937
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5484937

still working on that 2d susievania mod
anyone knows how i'm supposed to make a side attack in zscript? i need a melee attack that is fired to the left of the player rather than the front where the camera faces
i've already set the animation frames for the attack but still struggle to learn zscript

>>5484686
there's an old and very unfinished one laying around, and i've made some sprite rips that i never used but that's about it

>> No.5484946

>>5484937
Wouldn't Ralsei's scarf work better as a whip, rather than forcing a whip on Susie? But I'm guessing you're already focused on it being a Susie game.

>> No.5484950

>>5484946
> scarf as whip
the goat would be at the end of it
and don't even try to tell me it's not in character

>> No.5484951

>>5484131
>>5484290
Post some of your work, you sure sound like you know your trade

>> No.5484954

>>5484946
ralsei doesn't have what it takes to fit in
and kris is simply less fun to work on
plus they're both pacifists, susie would be the one attacking every enemy without those two around
>>5484950
not a bad idea, that could be a whip replacement like the morning star is to the vampire killer lmao

>> No.5484963

>>5484937
>Undertale/Deltarune autism
Yuck. Keep that shit off here, thanks.

>> No.5484967

>>5484963
too bad

>> No.5484970

>>5484937
>still working on that 2d susievania mod
Still? This is the first I've heard of this, you're either brave or foolish to go all out with a 2D platformer sorta thing on the doom engine of all things

>> No.5484975

>>5484937
Are you making a side scroller?
You can't make a MELEE attack that is not aimed at crosshair, and if you manage to do it the 2D side scroller camera would freak out since it's supposed to re-orient you at the target's center axis if a melee hits.

What you can do however is to spawn an invisible "hitbox" actor that would deal damage to the target on contact.

>> No.5484979

I want to make a gameplay mod that is a bit slower paced than usual.
What do you think about slowing player Run speed to ~75% of it's original speed, but then give player a Sprint that is equivalent of SR40 (130% of original run speed) but prevents player from shooting until he stops sprinting?

>> No.5484980

>>5484979
Might be cool as long as everything else plays nice with the slower gameplay, having the sprint should help with those maps that require actual speed

>> No.5484981

>>5484970
>>5484975
the sidescroller aspect itself is already done and has been around for several years now
the sideway attack has already been done before for a sidescroller mod but through DECORATE, i need to pull it off in zscript somehow

>> No.5484985

>>5484981
You know you can just insert most of the Decorate code into Zscript right

>> No.5484986

>>5484967
>Make a side scrolling Castlevania mod out of Doom
Cool
>Slap furries onto it
Why do you gotta shoot yourself in the foot with this cringey shit? You're not that fervent Daisy poster too, are you?

>> No.5484987

>>5484985
i don't because i don't know squat about scripting for doom, but i do know everything else, which has been already set up mostly
especially sprites and general graphics as well as audio
>>5484986
don't really care, and susie's about the only "furry" like character i like
and the way the mod is structured replacing the player sprites with anything of choice would be the easiest thing to accomplish unless you're a world class retard so i wouldn't worry about it

>> No.5484989
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5484989

Romero please unbitch me and release fuckin sigil already

>> No.5484991
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>>5484986
She is scalie not furry you uncultured swine

>> No.5484992

>>5484989
>Romero made himself bitch of his past self
Timetravel shenanigans worthy of Daikatana

>> No.5485016
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5485016

>>5484991
>implying there's a difference

>> No.5485045

>>5484032
>i can learn to throw some pixels into a comprehensive shape

Keep practicing the method I told you. It took me literally 3 minutes to make that edit.

>> No.5485113

>>5484810
Not /vr/
Though I'd really want that to happen just to laugh at Hendricks.

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5485171

>>5484937
tomboys in my dooms are always welcome

>> No.5485189
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5485189

What are some good weapon and/or monster randomizer wads for Zandronum survival?
I need a shitton of different weapons and monsters.

Pic realted, it's me.

>> No.5485204

>>5484963
>>5484986
>>5485016
Fuck off. Seriously.

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5485216

>>5484986
>fervent daisy poster
a most cultured gentleman
now that we are at it when is that artist going to make more Crash pics? that's some excellent stuff

>> No.5485218

>>5485216
>Crash pics
i don't think i have seen those
care to share?

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5485226

>>5485218
there is one in the booru, I'm pretty sure there are more but I don't have them saved
not sure if its safe to post, I don't know if those spots are shading or nipples

>> No.5485229

>>5484283
Thanks.

>> No.5485231

>>5482835
I'm mad that every build of GZDOOM post-3.3.8 or so removed the option to pick between Hardware and Software rendering, as well as the fact that default screen resolution is fucked up beyond belief in the latest few builds! Why won't Graf's second in command wise up and STAND UP TO HIM!?

>> No.5485245

>>5485231
software rendering is still there mate, there is more options now and it even supports models

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5485246

>>5485231
Why you gotta make shit up, anon?

And if you don't like the resolution you can change it to any numbers you want.

>> No.5485253

>>5485245
that poster did this a couple threads ago, ignore him.

>> No.5485265

>>5484814
>Listen. Marathon is simply not a particularly good game mechanically. Deal with it - or not.
Hey fuck you buddy
Mechanically Marathon is great, I even prefer its combat over Doom, it's just that the level design sucks cocks half the time

>> No.5485268

Ok I finished Quake now. Doom was better but I can definitely see the appeal of this game now. The levels are awesomely well-designed and really fun. The only thing I really liked better about Doom was the large number of weaker enemies in places, which would have made the Quake engine shit itself in 1996, I understand, but I still think it would've made the player feel like a badass like Doom.

>> No.5485272

>>5485268
Rampaging in certain levels with Quad damage can certainly evoke those feelings. Arguably better seeing as you can flatten even stronger monsters with minimal effort.

>> No.5485274

>>5485272
Yeah that part was really fun

>> No.5485291

>>5485171
Even when trained to equal size, women still have

>> No.5485319

>generate 11 levels for Doom 2 in SLIGE2
>generate 11 levels for Doom 2 in ObHack 008.3
>generate 10 levels for Doom 2 in Oblige 7.70 + ObAddon
>mix it into one megaWAD so the 1st map is SLIGE, 2nd is ObHack, 3rd is Oblige, and so on
Now that's what I call a perfect Doom experience. It's like playing Doom through years: '90s, '00s and then our time, repeat.

>> No.5485328

>>5485319
>Oblige 7.70 + ObAddon
How's the quality of that generator? Are the maps actually good?

>> No.5485334

>>5485328
The last two releases of ObAddon are producing maps that really I can't describe with other words then "epic" and "magnificent". Every new level and sometimes even new room are a pure Doomgasm. From all last megaWADs I've played, and that included best from 95-99, it's the only two that I always finishing with a big broad smile on my face. Can't recommend it enough.

>> No.5485398

How can i take a screenshot and then quit, in quakespasm and in gzdoom? i'm planning to make a bash script that take a screenshot of the first level and then quit the source port (because i don't know if i can get the list of maps for a doom wad / quake pak files) maybe without the gun showing so the level is all you can see

>> No.5485401

>>5485334
Too bad there's nothing like that for Heretic.
Heretic never gets enough love =\

>> No.5485431

>>5485268
Play arcane dimensions. It has more enemies with less hp such as archers, unarmored swordsmen and like 10 new types of marine enemies. It has also triple barreled shotgun for more firepower.

>> No.5485519

>>5485398
I just found this two links for both source ports: https://zdoom.org/wiki/Screenshot and https://www.quakewiki.net/archives/console/commands/quake.html#h-3 now im going to try to make it in a script so i can take screenshots of my entire wads / maps collection

>> No.5485579

>>5485265
Hey fuck YOU buddy, I suffered through 68k version of first Marathon on TC and Win95 version of Marathon 2, again, on TC, and I absolutely feel in the right to talk as much deserved shit on these games as I gawddamn fewking pleeze.
I genuinely love Pathways (main game and demo 2.0) though (barring a couple of levels, like the one with unkillable oozes, where you have to poison yourself).

Also, even Greg Kirkpatrick's level-designs are not all that great, while Jones' are of outright HEY FUCK _YOU_, BUDDY variety.

>> No.5485581

>>5485579
>while Jones' are by and large outright insulting.

>> No.5485607
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5485607

Anyone know how to fix this text overlap with Lithium 1.6.1? It's not game breaking, just a little annoying. Also I'm using the suggested GZDoom version (3.7.2).

>> No.5485626

>>5485216
>>5485218
>>5485226
if you mean robotjoe, he stopped drawing doom stuff and started drawing chicks with horsedicks

>> No.5485667

>>5485607
The one on the background screen could just be moved I think, the white text is an image that comes from the map pack. The green text "Leave Area" can probably be moved up to the very top of the screen area on the background image.

>> No.5485675

>>5485626
not robotjoe, cacobro
fuck
FUCK
NOW I HAVE EGG ON MY FACE

>> No.5485683

>>5483867
Alright.
Now where's my Cygnis Dakimakura.
And a La Tailor Girl boobie mouse pad.
And HDoom figures.
And...

>> No.5485684

>>5485683
I would buy tailor girl dakimura

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5485685

>>5485626
>>5485675
Oh I was under the impression it was the same artist that did the UAC marine Daisy pics, since that one also posts sketches from time to time

>> No.5485703

What's the best place to upload .wad files to?
AllFearTheSentinel?

>> No.5485720

>>5485683
>Cygnis
Samson is better.

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>>5485683
somebody fucking make a Bassilissa one

>> No.5485762
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5485762

Why do autosaves save the seeds of random number generators?
I've tried dozens of workarounds, but I always get the same random numbers after autosaving.
I tried to even input the players random movement into the generator, but it still leads to the same fucking numbers.

Why?
Any Wizards here?
Ijon where are you?

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5485763

>>5485685
Stop that.

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5485774

>>5485763
>posting a non animated skeledance
YOU stop it

>> No.5485809

>>5484328
I still remember the first time playing that mission.

Great thymes.

>> No.5485819

>>5485246
Okay, but why move it to a place where after a compatible file is loaded? What was the damn point?

>> No.5485959

>>5485774
he stepped on a landmine, he doesnt want to move a muscle

>> No.5485961

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8eVugNC3zbM

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5486040

>>5485328
it's phenomenal in parts, but it's still the same old jank.

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5486043

>>5486040

>> No.5486048

>>5485334
>>5485401
for some reason the heretic mode just crashes :c

>> No.5486054

>>5486043
>>5486040
what's the best way to set your paramaters, i just end up with "mix it up" on almost everything cus i dunno what i really want

>> No.5486061

>>5485685
this artist seems like he has a fetish for making her bleed. nice.

>> No.5486063

Anyway to turn off autoaim in glboom?

>> No.5486069
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>>5486054
>what's the best way to set your paramaters, i just end up with "mix it up" on almost everything.

tbf i do that shit a lot as well, but it boils down to do what you feel.

you want to be swimming in zombies? go for the dtwid route. do you want the plutonia experience? turn up the skelington meter. want have the sadistic skillsaw experience? put map size to medium, put hk/barons on "more" & cybies on "less". your imagination is key.

>> No.5486070

D4T Crucible Slayer Edition is fun but i wished the didn't made the Berserk fists only.
Also, why do these mods restrict you to only one equipment item?

>> No.5486089

>>5486061
I dont dig that actually, but its Doom related art so what are you gonna do

>> No.5486095

>>5486040
Bro, you forgot to turn on Glaice Epic textures.
And ZDoom skyboxes.
And ZDoom fog.

>> No.5486109
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5486109

>>5486069
is that iris from doom radys

>> No.5486116

>>5486063
Probably not, Doom literally can't be played properly without autoaim unless it's an advanced port with freelook enabled.

>> No.5486117

How do I use PWADs and the command line in Chocolate Doom or PrBoom+? I used to just load them up on ZDoom easily, but now I've realized I know nothing about playing them on anything else.

>> No.5486128

>>5486054
Level size: Progressive. It gives you the feeling of gradually rising up demonic onslaught. The downside is that a) Hell part tends to drag a little, especially second half, and b) secret levels became the biggest. Alternatively you can go with Episodic, this way map size restarts after 10th and 20th levels (i.e. the biggest are 10, 20 and 30, the smallest - 1, 11 and 21).
Streets mode: 25% of Urban levels. This makes you experience this nice mode while still leaving place for metro mode.
Linear mode: 5% of all levels. This will give you one or two maps, nice change of pace.
Liquids: Rare. This will limit your visual experience a bit, but instead gives you more space to dance around without damaging floors.
Teleports: depends on how much you like long quests and complex map that hard to navigate without checking your automap.
Steepness: if you want the feeling of grandiose, the feeling of being oppressed by towering structures, the claustrophobic feeling of giant walls squeezing you - crank it up.
Prebuilt Levels: only on you first run.
Procedural Gotcha: Final Map Only, because boss map, duh, but Icon of Sin present only on prebuilt level, and Cyberdemon/Mastermind may not appear at all here.
Layout Absurdity: play with it only after you satisfied with everything else. It will enhance that old Doom feeling when rooms by itself looks pretty logic, but overall level structure are absolute madness. Good for Hell levels.
ZDoom Vista: only on you first run. This is a gimmic feature.
ZDoom 3D Skybox: Per Theme. That means that in Theme you must choose anything except Jumbled Up and Psychedelic, best is Original-ish and/or Episode-ish (because there is generic skybox, that is fine, but tend to show too often without proper theme).
Natural Cliffs: Heaps. Even without shadows it still looks better than old plain Doom walls.
Dark Outdoors: Rare, unless you play with a mod that has a flashlight/flashsticks.
Road Markings: Yes, it's more natural this way.

>> No.5486142

>>5485245
Okay, but why not have them placed in the window that comes up before GZDOOM launches fully?

>> No.5486146

>>5486142
Because you can change it on the fly now, without restarting GZDoom.

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Demonsteele is shit and doom community should commit group suicide
>ugh, weebshit in Doom so epic!

>> No.5486167

>>5484937
any reason 2d in Doom?

>> No.5486168

>>5486054
Exit Signs: Yes, helps on latter huge levels and also gives a little warning against possible high resistance (like, Archvile, Cyber or Mastermind. Or two. Or more).
Linear Start: Yes, there is only a small chance that you end up with room open to a huge room with a lot of monsters (this happens to me only once, and it's still manageable).
Live Growth Minimap: No Live Minimap, obviously, this is only if you're very bored, have a lot of free time and a very powerful computer.
Prefab Control: no need for it, unless you either a) choose Engine: Limit Removing and Level Size: Progressive/Extreme, or b) like to search for unmarked secrets.
Floor/Ceiling Styler: Curved, obviously, 'cause it's pretty.
Sky Generator: just try it and see for yourself if you like it or not. It changes the same boring skies, yes, but it's nothing too wonderful either.
Smaller Spiderdemon: check, unless you play with mods that mess with monsters. The reason is already given in tooltip, and it's very true.
ZDoom: Glaice Epic Textures: oh god yes. Sadly, it's still not working for Doom 1/ Ult. Doom, but will be in the next release.
ZDoom Special Addons: currently it's bugged (still trying to fog even if there is No, giving an error and finishing without creating WAD) and Outdoors Only looks jarred, but you can play with it and try to find most pleasing settings. This will also gives you custom loading/intermission screens.
Cages: Rare, this way you have more ammo/weapons to collect (Oblige takes into account zombies' ammo drops when counting the amount of ammo needed to beat current room).
Everything other is up to your tastes. However, I highly recommend to use Eday music for Doom 2 WAD (which is currently erroneously distributed as Edaymusic.wad) instead of any Music Swapper. There are some of the best tunes from Quakes, absolutely epic tune from Descent 2, some very nice Doom remixes, and more. The only downside is that it doesn't have secret levels themes, so you left with vanilla.

>> No.5486189

>>5486157
Sad

>> No.5486191

>>5484937
How high are you on the autism scale and is it contagious?

>> No.5486204

>>5486157
Cool, I can go to cool skeleton hell and fight for eternity while heavy metal plays in the background

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>>5484986
>cringey

>> No.5486219

>>5486215
Methinks thou dost protest too much

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5486228

>>5486157
>using Nu-Male smile Wojak

>> No.5486238

>>5486157
Well, you could:
1) leave the Doom community and never look back; calling it quits for good
2)Make your own set of WADs as you see fit
OR
3) move to other modding communities, such as Elder Scrolls, Fallout, or Unreal series.

>> No.5486253

>Hideous Destructor
>Ugly as Sin addon with hunger and frag shards turned off and friendly marine spawns (in place of marine corpses)
Makes going through vanilla Doom amazingly doable even though there some parts that require radsuit or some fast dash jumping.
Also pretty interesting when I get a notification that a marine died, wonder where that one was when he spawned and then come across a room with a couple of stragglers, a load of corpses and bullet holes everywhere.
HD friendly marines are no joke. I didn't even know they could die until I got the first notification after one that was following me took a point blank shotgun blast to the face while going to the soulsphere secret on E1M2.

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I'm gonna miss her.

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>>5486157

>> No.5486276

>>5486260
I still don't think that soi drinks and soi-steak can actually end up literally turning a Man into an effeminate emotionally attached idiot, let alone make them become transsexual.

>> No.5486279

>>5486253
You should give Plutonia a whirl on that setup.

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>>5482835
New version of Doom with Sprinkles released:
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=64173

>> No.5486286

>>5486279
I plan to.
It's gonna hurt so goddamn bad, but with the power of Vulcanette, DERPs, corner recon by grenade launcher and friendship I will at least get through the first and second maps!

>> No.5486404

>>5486253
>E1M4
>don't have computer headphones on so I can listen to some music from my phone's speakers
>go to secret and start looting the backpack inside
>Jigglypuff has died
>what
>open door
>bodies everywhere with a few surrounding the now dead marine
>easy to tell that he wasn't just a regular corpse decoration, there's a partially used grenade launcher ZM66 next to the body
So good

>> No.5486424

>>5486253
>>5486404
Reminds me of Immoral Conduct Special Edition, back on the EDGE version, it had NPC allies who would fight and engage enemies independently from you.

Problem was that they were dumb as shit.

>> No.5486430

What are some Doom wads that have a Lovecraft theme to them, like Quake? Shadows of the Nightmare Realm was pretty good, and I'm almost done with Strange Aeons.

>> No.5486436

>>5485272
Gibbing a shambler never fails to warm my heart.

>>5485401
I love Heretic because it's this simply presented gothic fantasy that's really atmospheric, same reason why I loved Demon's Souls when it came out.

>> No.5486484

>>5486430
Rylayeh for sure.

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5486490

>>5486117
Does anyone know how to use this thing? The Chocolate Doom wiki is down, and the Wayback Machine doesn't have the Level Warp page archived.

>> No.5486508
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5486508

>>5483803
don't use the xbox hud, it's ass, just write this in a notepad and save as a .mml file and put it in your scripts folder. Run the game and go to preferences>environment and select the script for solo script and it should work, and while you're in environment also go to plugins and disable the xbox hud.

<marathon>
<view>
<fov normal="100"/>
</view>
</marathon>

you can change the fov value, I just like it at 100

>> No.5486517

>>5486284
Beautiful Doom author will be butt-mad.

>> No.5486521

>>5486284
>GZDoom
I think I found a bug.

>> No.5486543

what is marathon even about?
serious question

>> No.5486568

>>5486543
you play as a security officer in the year 2794 aboard the UESC Marathon which is orbiting the colony on the planet Tau Ceti IV. The Marathon is in radio silence with the colony below so they send you to investigate it. When you board the ship you soon find out that aliens are invading the ship and that one of the 3 AIs is acting wack. Another AI named Leela helps you retake the ship

>> No.5486574

>>5486490
Alright, it must have been a browser problem. I've got Memento Mori working halfway decently, but the music and map titles are still the standard Doom II ones. Anyone know what I could be doing wrong?

>> No.5486609
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5486609

>>5483925
>>official body pillow of hunter or crash never
>fuck
same
i'd even accept one of those japanese boobie mousepads with hunter on it

>> No.5486623

There seem to be a lot of mods in the style of PSX doom, but are there any actual full mapsets MADE for PSX doom that can be straight up burned to a disc and played on real hardware?

>> No.5486653

>>5484129
a refrigerator with legs

>> No.5486656

>>5484951
I can't tell whether or not you're serious and it's scary

>> No.5486661
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5486661

>>5485045
thank you for your earlier advice anon
a definite improvement from the previous >>5482821
used 2 base colors
black and white soft pencil for shading and highlights with 'overlay' layer blend mode
threw into slade to palette
(left truecolor, right paletted)

also
> sunday
> ctrl f "saturday"
> no screenshot saturday

>> No.5486664

>>5486661
I was just wondering where Screenshot Saturday was.

>> No.5486665

>>5486664
>>5486661
screenshot saturday broke

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5486674

>>5486661
>>5486664
>>5486665
I WAS AWAY FROM MY COMPUTER ALL DAY SOOOOO
SCREENSHOT SUNDAY BITCHES. SORRY.
Let's see what the rest of you boys have been working on it, that anon with the armor did a pretty decent job.

>> No.5486678

>>5486609
but ranger, qump was released years ago and was a pretty good mappack

>> No.5486685

>>5486678
fuck, I only looked at the thumbnail before posting and thought it was the thingken of quad version, not qump
>years ago
FUCK

>> No.5486690
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5486690

>>5486674

>> No.5486696
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5486696

>>5486674
Bang!

>> No.5486701
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5486701

>>5486674
Ratatatatatat

>> No.5486702

>>5486696
That could use a little more energy but I REALLY like the sprite and the bolt thing too.

>> No.5486703
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5486703

>>5486701
Ooh this is really good though, what is this for anon?

>> No.5486704

>>5486702
the bolts motion going back is too smooth and slow
force of gun shot > force of spring

>> No.5486714
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5486714

>>5486702
>>5486704
For the shotgun, I really wanted to capture the kind of particular recoil impulse of a short-recoil long-gun, where the barrel recoils first, then hits the bolt, then the bolt travels backwards, and it kind of pauses abruptly as it hits the rear, then the barrel starts going back forward and the bolt slams forward.
Pic related is a pistol, but it's the idea.

The animation could probably need more tweaking, however.

>> No.5486715

>>5486714
It's a good start though!

>> No.5486717
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5486717

>>5486703
It's actually not for anything at all, I kind of just felt like putting them together, and I figure whoever needs them can put them to use, just put Chopblock in the credits somewhere.

I'll post the shottygun next.

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>> No.5486723

>>5486717
>>5486719
Got anymore weapons planned? Because these are fucking great.

>> No.5486735

>>5486723
In the immediate future? No, not really, because I kind of just did these to show something off to the Spriting Carnival on ZDF.
I'm kind of busy with my own project otherwise.

Y'all are free to use them, of course.

>> No.5486736
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5486736

Noticed some stray pixels.

>> No.5486747

>>5486690
hey thats pretty good

>> No.5486813

noobie here, trying to into doom because its fucking awesome. what are some games or mods that play like doom 1 and 2? do i have to own a copy of doom before installing them? im a complete scrub :(

>> No.5486817

>>5486813
Check the FAQ/pastebin and the SO YOU WANT TO PLAY SOME... posts in the OP.

>> No.5486824

>>5486813
>>5486817
we should just start the next thread without any of the shit in the OP because clearly no one reads it to begin with

>> No.5486825
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5486825

>>5486817
HOLY SHIT FUCK YEA PLAYIN SOME DOOM IN 2019

>> No.5486826

>>5482836
[4-7] GZDOOM 4.0 Released
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=64188

>> No.5486827

>>5486824
make a map and use the OP text to mark secret walls

>> No.5486830

>>5486813
If you have Doom 3 BFG Edition, it contains both files necessary to launch Doom & Doom 2, but you will be missing secret/special content (no Nazis, no swastikas, no Wolfenstein themes) and red cross on medical items (stimpack, medkit & berserk pack) will be changed into silly red-white pill. Otherwise it's the same Dooms.
Try Knee-Deep in ZDoom. It's a gameplay mod for Doom 2 that reimagining Doom 1 but much more prettier (much more complex architecture & geometry) and with a lot of modern cool features (ambient sounds, for example), all the while keeping good old Doom atmosphere.

>> No.5486834

>>5486825
Does it still lag like a bitch?

>> No.5486835

>>5486826
oh fuck a new MAJOR version?
probably vulkan support + some bells and whistles

>> No.5486836

>>5486835
I think its me but it isnt running as smooth as it used to. They will probably iron out the bugs by next week

>> No.5486837

GZDoom - the absolute mad lag.

>> No.5486838

Crysis used to be a benchmark for PC strength, soon it'll be GZDoom.

>> No.5486840

>>5486834
no not in the least. i have a confession to make. ive actually never played doom 2 and i feel a disgrace. im playing through right now and fuck i never realized how much i missed playing doom 1. such an amazing feeling of immersion and fuckedness that goes so unmatched. nothing ever feels as good as running around high adrenaline blasting fucking demons as they scream at you with their gnarls.

>> No.5486843

>>5486830
Kdizd is shit desu, next time reccomend actually good wads like AA, BTSX, or struggle

>> No.5486846

>>5486838
All the while there is Zandronum version for smartphones. For bloody smartphones, for fuck's sake!

>> No.5486852

>>5486843
The only shit here is you.
>AA
Yeah, for a novice player, fucking good choice, mate. Make him ragequit, yeah.
>BTSX
He said "play like doom 1 and 2", not "run on Doom engine", you moron.

>> No.5486853

>>5486843
>struggle
Isn't that sorta slaughterish?

>> No.5486861

>>5486852
Then JCP, CC4 and coffee break, there are still an ocean of wads that are better than kdizd.

>> No.5486864
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5486864

Could Risk of Rain work as a gameplay mod for ZDoom ports?

>> No.5486868

>>5486861
>JCP
Niche.
>CC4
Hit & miss.
>coffee break
>better than kdizd
Shit taste confirmed.

The point is - KDiZD is a best transition point between vanilla Doom experience and everything else more advanced. Don't throw a kid into college yet - let him finish school first.

>> No.5486890

>>5486864
reelism is kinda like that, i don't see why not

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>>5486253
>doombabs were asshurt when first DOOM gameplay showed reloading
>but mod that turns Doom into a fucking COD clone is fine, 10/10 Cacoward of the century :)

>> No.5486906 [DELETED] 

I made a square room with thosand revenants in it and got a Cacoward

>> No.5486907 [DELETED] 

>>5486901
B-but!.. It's not Brutal Doom! It's another thing! It's better!

>> No.5486910

Playstation Soundtrack
>foreboding
>atmospheric
>sense of loneliness and despair, game is even called Doom for fucks sake
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C0q68FwPVWY&list=PL8Ze5WK7zCVWudTwLZj_u06RqFcCSrSHC&index=6
PC soundtrack
>DUN DUN DUN DUDUD DUN DUN DUDUDU XD
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=re0A23CSvpw

I always play on PC with the music off

>> No.5486913 [DELETED] 

why doombabs pretend their game is hardcore? I think they forgot how piss easy vanilla was and just have flashbacks from Hell Revealed and Alien Vendetta and their boomer brains mistook them for the real deal because dementia set in

>> No.5486914 [DELETED] 

every megawad ever made
>10 techbase maps
>10 more techbase maps but this time it's harder
>BLUEERGH 10 SLAUGHTER MAPS GRIND THROUGH 600 ENEMIES AND SEEK COVER BUT IT'S TOTALLY DIFFERENT THAN COVER SHOOTER GAMES WE DESPISE

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don't fucking tell me Doom doesn't promote hiding behind a corner when this guy exists

>> No.5486919
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5486919

I like doom.

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>>5486826
I DONT SEE HOW THAT FUCKING COMPENSATES FOR ANYTHING

>> No.5486924

>>5486901
>>5486906
>>5486910
>>5486913
>>5486914
>>5486916
i cant report this for samefag shitposting because reporting is range blocked
someone else pls

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5486925

>>5486923
This is the one that upsets and baffles me.

>> No.5486926

>>5486910
Now go play Doom 64.

>> No.5486927

>>5486913
Better question is: Why some fuckers want hardcore supertough gameplay but absolutely refuse to play on Nightmare! that was fucking created exactly for that?

>> No.5486928

>>5486916
And arachnotrones.

>> No.5486929

>>5486919
Thank god I'm unlike doom.

>> No.5486938 [SPOILER] 
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5486938

>>5483480
>actually mentioning the retail WON version
Based

>> No.5486972
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5486972

>> No.5486984

>>5486972
whats up with that sky?

>> No.5486991

>>5483480
Either way it'll be neat.

>> No.5486995

>>5486984
fov is very low, so you are zoomed into a small part of it

>> No.5487028

>>5486901
>Hideous Destructor
>COD clone
It's more like, a cross between Arma and SWAT 4, with demons.

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5487045

>>5486656
>d-don't make me embarrass myself please
I thought so.

>> No.5487057 [DELETED] 

>>5487028
>I'm telling you, it's DIFFERENT!!!11
Yeah, bro, we believe you.

>> No.5487059

>>5484951
>what have YOU succeed?!
Ah, sweet classic. Thought it's something you usually hear in school. Or kindergarten.
I don't need to be a chief to tell if dish is shit.

>> No.5487065
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5487065

> try to make custom floatbobbing
> mess up the math
> get this

>> No.5487069

>>5487065
Make it a feature.

>> No.5487074

>>5487065
Possessed armour!
Or rubber.
Hell, it could be both!

>> No.5487081

>>5487059
Keep samefagging, angry artlet
Surely it will help you grow some relevance as much as studying Loomis everyday will

>> No.5487084

>>5487081
>samefagging
Wow, you really are just an angry kid. Don't worry though, in several years your hormones will come to balance.

>> No.5487119

>>5487057
CoD isn't anything like Arma though.

>> No.5487121

>>5484951
>>5487081
I thought "Cпepдoбeйcя" (make something better yourself before critiquing) was a mostly russian thing. Apparently I was wrong huh.

>> No.5487127

>>5486923

Fuck me, I'm not gonna uprgrade. I finally get to play some bigger maps with less framerate dip with any gameplay mods and he pulls it off.

>>5486846

Is there a internal resolution option like GZDoom that I can change?

>> No.5487134

>>5487127
>Is there a internal resolution option like GZDoom that I can change?
You mean, in Zandro? Of course, it's Options -> Set video mode.

>> No.5487135

>>5487121
Who said he's not Russian?
P.S. Isn't it "cпepвaдoбeйcя"?

>> No.5487141

>>5487134

I mean, GZDoom have "resolution scale" which can be lower, but the screen resolution itself is my HD one. In Zand I only have the set video, which shits on the menus too.

>> No.5487143

>>5487141
Sorry, I don't understand, haven't seen GZDoom since 2.something version. What do you mean? The overall screen resolution and the in-game screen (field of view) differences?

>> No.5487145
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5487145

>>5487121
>"Cпepдoбeйcя"

>> No.5487148
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5487148

>> No.5487153
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5487153

>>5487148
DO NOT
BE MEAN
TO THE CACO

>> No.5487154

>>5487148
We have a traitor among us!

>> No.5487157

>>5487153
OR THE CACO
WILL BE
MEAN TO YOU

>> No.5487168

>>5487145
Is he having a seizure?

>> No.5487172

>>5487143
>The overall screen resolution and the in-game screen (field of view) differences?

Yes. In GZDoom, I have side bars on my screen, the ingame resolution is much lower and my menus aren't fucked up as in Zandronum I can't change it without it looking hideous.

>> No.5487179

>>5487172
In Zandro you should be able to choose other (non-widescreen) options. Then there is +/-, which changes in-game display size. That is if I understand you correctly.

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5487189

how to trigger doom fans

>> No.5487191
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>>5487189
just like my triple a batteries

>> No.5487201

>>5487045
>'y-you can't criticize something unless you're on the same field!'
you could've just made one stupid post and that's it.

>> No.5487204

>>5487179

Even in non-wide resolutions, in fullscreen, will just stretch. In GZDoom, it adds side bars. Anyway, zandronum is better just for it performance while GZDoom have annoying fps dips when I play gameplay mods. Such is the fate of a toaster.

>> No.5487221

>>5486830
kdizd is the fucking opposite of "good old doom atmosphere"; they made a point of shoving every zdoom feature they could in there at the expense of things like "fun gameplay" or "levels that aren't the size of new york"

>>5486813
do alien vendetta instead, it's the best transition between classic and modern i can think of, and it isn't the gaudiest piece of shit ever
or do scythe, it's bite size doom that throws you into the deep end at map21

>> No.5487224

>>5487121
>shitting a morbidly stupid opinion on a mongolian basket weaving forum counts as critique
and here's the problem, this board is literally going in the gutter and all it needs is a few frustrated neckbeards to do so

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5487226

>>5487065

>> No.5487230

>>5487224
So in your opinion non-modders have no right to criticize mods?
And if we extrapolate then non-gamedevs have no right to criticize games?

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5487256

>>5487153

Dear UAC personnel, we are proud to announce that two of the closest to the entrance parking bays are now reserved for those with physical disabilities.

>> No.5487265

>>5487256
There's no crosswalk.

>> No.5487267

>>5486868
>KDiZD is a best transition point between vanilla Doom experience and everything else more advanced
It really isn't, since everything more advanced that came out later ditched kdizd's design philosophy. Kdizd is a good introduction to blade of agony, and not much else. Which, while I personally like it, it's not a terribly Doom like game.

>> No.5487276
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5487276

>>5487265

>> No.5487282

>>5487276
There's no wheelchair access ramp.

>> No.5487291

>>5486813
First read the OP. You need source port and the official doom wad files to play the user-made wads. Just throw the official wad files (doom.wad and doom2.wad) to source port directory and drag the user-made wad to source port. As for source port choice, it's the matter of taste.

But for the wads, I have to say that you got some quite shit suggestions. KDIZD, AA and BTSX are not for novice players. Instead you should start with classics.

Get the Final Doom. It's official expansion, that has two 32-map megawads in it: Evilution and Plutonia. Evilution isn't bad for novice players. It just goes into shovelware quality at the some point of the half way. I'm not blaming you, if you want to stop then, but you should play the first half at least. Plutionia is fucking classic. Gameplay is fun and challenging, and it even still looks good for a 1996 wad. But don't start with Plutonia, because I have to underline the challenging part. It can turn into frustrating experience, if you are not ready for it. But it's not that hard as the modern hard wads, so it's perfect transition wad to get into more difficult stuff.

And here's the community made classic wads, that are not as hard as Plutonia. This is the stuff, you want to go after finishing the old good Doom 1 and 2. Old wads but still absolutely great:
>Memento Mori
>Memento Mori II
>Requiem
>Mordeth
>2002 Doom Odyssey (rest are for Doom 2, but this is full 4 episode megawad for Doom 1)

And here's the harder classic stuff, that you definitely need to play after Plutonia:
>Alien Vendetta
>Hell Revealed
>Hell Revealed II
>Scythe
>Scythe II

2010 saw the release of new official level pack: No Rest For The Living. This is really good also, and definitely look into it. It's also more challenging, but nothing too much. We are also getting the fift episode for Doom 1 from Romero himself by the end of this month / start of next month. It has the name Sigil.

Comment gets too long, so read Cacowards for modern recs.

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5487296

>>5486824
Realistically what it just needs is compression and reorganization, it's just bloated like modern Brutal Doom. There's assorted downloads that likely have a ton of overlap and more niche things all over the place, and many pastebins are abandoned. We're coming onto a third 'our wads' paste, even.

>> No.5487302
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5487302

What do you guys think of Dawn of Darkness for Quake 2?
I saw it on the moddb page and I'm curious about it

>> No.5487307

is there any weapon pack out there that moves the weapon and arms position to the right like your regular shitty fps game

>> No.5487315

Are there any Doom mods that behave more like unofficial expacs? I'm thinking new enemy variants like Alpha pinkies, Revenants suped up to become Liches. Stuff like that.

>> No.5487328
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5487328

>>5487302
Haven't seen it before, going to check it out soon

>> No.5487373

>>5487189
Please go back to playing Cowadooty and Apex.

>> No.5487375

>>5487226
Looks like a windows 3.1 icon

>> No.5487385
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>>5487189
Someone looked at the original Doom and said "I can make this better".

>> No.5487386

There anything I can read or watch that give me a history of Doom or Quake mapping? Like, discussing landmark wads, pioneering level designers, what they influenced, stuff like that.

I like learning about the history behind this type of stuff.

>> No.5487423
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5487423

>>5487385
>>5487189
>>5487191
>explosions galore
>even the tiniest bullet spills gallons of blood
>fatalities
>bloom
>over saturated colors
>filters

I can't tell if that's a chinese knock off of Brutal Doom or the actual mod itself.

>> No.5487437

>>5487189
based based based get this free (You) based boy

>> No.5487441

>>5487121
>slavshits in thread
>quality of posts immediately drops

Really makes you think.

>> No.5487446

>>5487315
Valiant and Eviternity do have quite a number of new monster variants, that all fit into Doom and spice up the combat in a good way.

90s wads Obituary and Strain do also have new monsters. Though their level design might feel quite dated occasionally. Also Obituary's rocket zombie has been criticized for the fact, that they can instakill you before you find out, that they were right next to you, when you entered the new room.

Also if you are into ZDoom, Ultimate Torment And Torture adds more than 20 new monster variants.

>> No.5487447

>>5487386
https://www.doomworld.com/10years/bestwads/

>> No.5487473

>>5486852
why not doom the way id did?
knizd might not even run properly on his computer

>> No.5487478

>>5484951
You must be 18 or older to be here.

>> No.5487481

>>5486813
Follow >>5487291

>>5486843
lol these wads aren't for newcomers. You 100% only recommended because they are the pretty overhyped recent megawads.

>> No.5487483

>>5487446
Cool. Thanks.

>> No.5487486

Is there a way to aim the LAZ up/down in samsara? It only fires straight ahead, it's the same with mouselook on and off

>> No.5487492

>>5486923
does anyone have a video or screenshot comparison of this?
in fact, that could be useful to show off gzdoom's updates because i can't imagine everyone reads that huge text

>> No.5487498

>>5487492
Menu is not scaled in any way.
It's just that previously you could set custom scaling to 320x200 and it would look close in res to original.
Now you can't. Even if you make scaling 1/4 and res 1280x800 then you still would only downscale to 640x400, the scaling just outright stops working below that point and renders 640x400 no mater what actual scaling settings you set.

>> No.5487503

>>5487481
same guy, I also recommend Vile Flesh. An easy but challenging wad to newbies with some top notch level design.

>> No.5487507

>>5487230
Literally not at all what he said, but okay.

>> No.5487508

>>5487189
I only wish there was a mod that went for a quake level of 3d fidelity
most of these 'hd' mods always look like Quake 3 but with horribly block level geometry and terrible animation

>> No.5487509

>>5487065
commander keen doom when?

>> No.5487512

>>5487386
Evolution of the wad is exactly what your looking for https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXWZ-mE5FEDJ9_bjcovlQoMF6wkkEYpa6

>> No.5487513
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>>5487486
Please help, I just wanna zorch dudes above me

>> No.5487514

>>5487508
That's because they try to pull Q3 visuals over Doom mechanics and that does not work.
The monsters would still stiffly rotate at 45 deg, still change animations rapidly without iunterpolation unless actors themselves are heavily modified ETC.

What they should do to achieve proper Doom HD look is to use a different engine entirely, free of original's Doom stiff mechanics.

But ofc. nobodys gonna do that since it requires actual effort.

>> No.5487515

>>5487513
>>5487486
there should be an sv_bfgfreeaim cvar

>> No.5487523

>>5487515
Allow BFG Aiming is on in options

>> No.5487527

>>5487523
try turning it off, maybe graf reversed it

>> No.5487531

>>5487527
That was it. Fucking retarded. "Allow BFG Aiming: No" allows you to aim the fucking bfg? Graf deserves to be castrated. THanks anon.

>> No.5487540
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5487540

>>5486574
You have to load both MM.WAD and MMMUS.WAD. If that doesn't work try ZDL, I just did and it's working perfectly.

>> No.5487552
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5487552

>>5486923
Guess I can't get a classic look now.
>>5487492
Here's an example of me trying to use my old "crunchy" set-up. It isn't 320x200 because I was going for the aspect correction, and a bit of widescreen. Top is on 3.7.2, bottom is 4.0.

>> No.5487559
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5487559

no one ever gives wolfenstein 3d love. My fav retro fps

>> No.5487561
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5487561

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bghOhwMAOEs

>> No.5487562

>>5487561
is it real or just an aprils fool joke?

>> No.5487583

>>5487561
???

>> No.5487592

>>5487561
you gotta be fucking kidding

>> No.5487602

>>5487561
If you play Postal 1, it plays with default doom controls iirc. Kinda weird.

>> No.5487606
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5487606

>>5487559
Content gets made for it every so often. In fact two things were released so far for 2019, one being a pirate-themed mod and the other where you're a vampire slayer.
https://deans-wolf-blog.blogspot.com/2019/04/the-golden-parrot-project-x.html

>> No.5487647

>>5486574
>>5486490
not familiar with the port but...
try disabling the loader if you can
Then run chocolate doom from a command prompt with the following flag:
-file mm.wad mmmus.wad
if you want to warp to a level at start (example level 7) then add:
-warp 07 -skill 4
though you could just start a game then ingame type the cheat idclev07 to warp to map 7

all of this would work with original doom2 so it better work in chocolate

>> No.5487653
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5487653

>>5486609
>>5483925
>>5486685
hips that just will not stop
srsly, she has to run and jump a whole deathmatch at a time

>> No.5487671

>>5487653
I always disliked that model, it's just so thin in the middle. Both Hunter and Bisley's original character are built like a brick house, their toned midsections are just overshadowed by 60 pounds of tits and ass.

>> No.5487693
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5487693

>>5487540
>>5487647
Thanks a lot for the help. I had no clue ZDL even existed, and I'm glad it does. It reminds me of the Doom 95 GUI, which I always liked. This

It looks like I was typing in the commands at the prompt slightly wrong.
>>5487559
Spear of Destiny is possibly my favorite FPS. Doom has more depth to it and way better map design, but there's something satisfying about the way Wolfenstein's weapons and combat feel. Even a piddly little guard sneaking up on you can kill you dead in a way that adds tension to the gameplay, but at the same time the enemies feel squishy and reactive in a pleasant way. I also like the arcade-style lives system.

>> No.5487703

>>5487671
Yeah, it's really bad.

>> No.5487712

>>5487693
also there's nothing wrong with writing a batch file to run a mod either, shortcuts can be a little misleading and difficult to wrangle but open up notepad and type in what you'd do at the command line - and you wont even have to open the cmd for it
> name it something like _memento.bat so it sits at the top of the folder list

>> No.5487741

why do people get so antsy about brootal doom and why is v20 so much better than 21

>> No.5487752

>>5487703
I mean, it's still totally fappable, I'm a sucker for anything with bronze skin, fat tits, hidden eyes, nice lips, and a snazzy hat. It could just be better.

>> No.5487763

Did anyone try Redemption of the Slain WAD? It was made by No Rest for the Living authors, so it must be good. But I ran out of ammo early on by running into a horde of Cacos and locked door. Is the map only playable with Brutal Doom?

>> No.5487789

>>5487441
I wonder why there are no DOOM or Heretic WADs that are based on Spiderman, the GOTG, or the X-Men, as well as ones that allow you to choose a character to play as from the start menu. Hey, why not ones that have both?

>> No.5487792

>>5487653
poor girl has had her organs removed.

>> No.5487793

according to the doomwiki, the ssg reload upgrade in doom 4 still makes the individual shells deal the same damage as the regular ssg fire

>> No.5487794

>>5487741
I think the real question is why would anyone give a damn about brutaledoome when project brutality exists

>> No.5487806

>>5487792
You don't need 'em in the arena.

>> No.5487824

>>5487752
Not for me. Looks off putting.

>> No.5487854

>>5487824
Eh, different storks for different forks. Sometimes I like the idea of something enough that the product can be less than perfect and still be appealing- especially if the subject isn't exactly popular.

>> No.5487870

>>5487385
>>5487191

This looks objectively better, graphically, than the original game.

You may dislike the aesthetic design, but that's completely subjective and your opinion.

Graphically the effects are completely superior to vanilla.

>> No.5487874

>>5487794
What's great about project brutality?
t. curious

>> No.5487883

>>5487870
so does base gzdoom with ambient occlusion, dynamic lights, brightmaps and softer lighting lmao.

>> No.5487893

>>5487870
so?

>> No.5487904

>>5487121
>>5487135
>>5487145
Bы чepти.

>> No.5487914

>>5487204
There is an option "Force aspect ratio". Looks like you forgot to turn it off.

>> No.5487926

>>5487221
OK, you're just a lying idiot without any taste, I get it.

>> No.5487929

>>5487267
>design philosophy
And this is relevant how? Anyway, looks like you didn't see what latest Oblige with ObAddon can produce.

>> No.5487930
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>>5487870
>This looks objectively better
I don't think you know what "objectively" means. It has objectively more complex effects but it doesn't mean it looks better. That would be like saying a car looks objectively better with neons under it just because it's an additional thing.

>> No.5487934

>>5487870
it looks like a ugly, frame-dropping mess where i can't actually see what i need to see, so no

>> No.5487938

>>5487930
Probably because he's trolling.

>> No.5487941

>>5487446
>Ultimate Torment And Torture
And these people saying that KDiZD is shit.

>> No.5487945

>>5487941
You do know this website is anonymous, right?

>> No.5487947

>>5487503
>easy
>challenging
Make up your mind.

>> No.5487949

>>5487870
>Graphically the effects are completely superior to vanilla.
considering they're a framedropping mess with no cohesion, no

>> No.5487954
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5487954

I wonder if this inspired the 2016 Mancubus.
Also, does anyone know where to get this model?
Has it ever been used in a mod before?

>> No.5487968 [DELETED] 

>>5487741
Because it attracts many new players that do not want to play Action Doom and other mods that totally not changing gameplay and do not want to play oh so good slaughtershit. At the same time many so-called "oldschool gamers" love to bitch about "why so little new players in mah Doom". Go figure.

>> No.5487970

>>5487763
Yes, it's absolutely fantastic. No, it's beatable in vanilla.

>> No.5487987

>>5487930
A car isn't a graphical engine you stupid fuck. False comparison.

>>5487934
>>5487949
Graphical quality != performance

>> No.5488018

>>5487987
>Graphical quality != performance
>the standard of something as measured against other things of a similar kind; the degree of excellence of something.
graphical quality = performance

>> No.5488041

who's got the best music packs for PSX and N64 doom osts? i see theres a few different ones when i google

>> No.5488046

>>5488041
download the .flacs on soulseek, that's what I did with the 3do ost

>> No.5488081

>>5488046
yeah but i have no clue how to make a music .wad to set them ingame

>> No.5488086
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>>5488081
just do this

>> No.5488149

>obvious bait everywhere
>people keep falling for it
really makes you wonder why it's so easy to shit up these threads

>> No.5488207

>>5486923
I'm assuming this is a result of the implementation of Vulkan. But either way, this is fucking retarded.
fucking graf

>> No.5488217

>>5486923
For the love of talos could someone PLEASE steal the gzd code from graf and make a /vr/DOOM source port that isnt full of shit?

if randi didnt died, she could had lapped this fucker back to the pit he came.

>> No.5488220

Whoever greenlighted this garbage to show up on a shitty gamin journo website needs to go fuck themselves
https://www.nexusmods.com/hereticshadowoftheserpentriders/mods/1?tab=description

even the Doomworld one is superior

>> No.5488234

>>5488220
I don't even understand what you're complaining about.

>> No.5488235

>>5488220
>gaming journo website
>nexus
I wouldn't show off my single digit IQ if I were you anon.

>> No.5488237

>>5487561
Why does the Postal 2 map music instantly put a fucking smile on my face every time I hear it?

>> No.5488239

>>5488220
Nexus is a journalistic publication now?

>> No.5488245

>>5488234
>>5488235
>>5488239
it appears that someone from DSOgaming website did this pack to post at the website to get some props, and later picked up at PCgamer and such.
The conversion itself is shit, The asshole who did it, didn't cared for texture editing and such like the Doomworld Project, its just the Raw conversion on Esrgan with LOTS of errors.

also this shit is so badly made that you can see black "auras" around some sprites, even the menu is misaligned thanks to this shit, and it made the game slower even on the shittiest settings of GZD and DEngine.

>> No.5488248

>>5488220
its niggers like that who gives a bad fame for Neural AI texturing.

>> No.5488251

>>5486923
Asked on the ZDoom forums, turns out this was done because of the new fonts. Classic "fix one bug and ten more appear", but with features.

>> No.5488258

>>5487602
>ok so it's tangentially related to doom. doom is related to quake. that's all we need
>just cram him right up in there next to caleb and call it a day

>> No.5488261

How hard is to create maps for Build Engine games? For someone with no experience with programming at all (just with C).

>> No.5488263

>>5488261
It shouldn't be hard. You don't need programming experience for any kind of mapping, though.

>> No.5488271

>>5488263
OK then, going to google how to create some maps and try to do something. Any tips on tools, programs, etc?

>> No.5488279

>>5488261
It's more complex than vanilla Doom levels, but vanilla Doom is also quite simple to map for.

There's some learning curve, but you'll figure it out.

>> No.5488281

>>5487914

Even with it, I don't get the side bars. It's ok, the fps gain in 320x200 is good, but I can deal with 60 to 40 drops, as long as don't freezes like it was before.

>> No.5488284
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5488284

>>5486674
Improving one of the textures from TNT, using just DeluxePaint 2 Enhanced. This is actually surprisingly difficult, maybe I was just too cocky.

>> No.5488286

>>5488284
The brown is part of its look IMO.

>> No.5488287

>>5488286
Yeah, the brown was vines and stuff that I'm going to try to add on later, had to remove them first though to reduce all the mirroring.

>> No.5488293

>>5488287
Ooooh, now I see what you're doing. Yeah, that would make this texture better.

>> No.5488315

What the hell is this difficulty in D4T. I'm trying it with Doom 2 The Way ID did and its relentless. I just played D4D with the same map pack and at least I got to the second level. This one is much harder WTF.

>> No.5488350

>>5488284
>using just DeluxePaint 2 Enhanced
Are you just trying to use the same tools they might have at the time?

>> No.5488358

>>5488350
Yes. A lot of the new TNT textures seem to me to be really lazily/hastily done.

>> No.5488374

>>5488315
What difficulty are you playing on?

>> No.5488375

>>5487987
>Graphical quality != performance
that wasn't even my main point
graphics serve the gameplay, and if they get in the way of the gameplay by obscuring all the shit I actually want to see with super kewl special effects, they're automatically bad regardless of how technically competent they are

>> No.5488384

>>5488358
They kind of were. A lot of them are decent, some of them are *rough*.

>> No.5488387

>>5487870
Technology!=Graphics
"Graphics" also mean visual design, and this is where most "Doom graphic enhancements" are lacking.
Technology means nothing if it's not applied right and even most technology-heavy visuals with crapton of effects can look like shit (and they often are when applied to Doom)

>> No.5488394
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5488394

>>5488384
You'd be pretty hard pressed to sort out the really good new ones from stock iD textures, but the bad ones were BAD.

>> No.5488406

Any examples of ZDoom monsters that chase and attack at the same time?

>> No.5488426

>>5488406
I can't think of any, but it should be doable.

>> No.5488553

>>5488315
Use the Normal:Max Monsters difficulty for something more in line with UV. Anything in the Hard category is more like an Ultra-Nightmare without the ironman.

>> No.5488557

>>5487954
Doom 3 sure hasn't aged well. Actually modern Doom 1 and 2 maps look better than that. Funny thing is that, when this came out, classic Doom looked like ancient and this looked super realistic.

>> No.5488560

>>5488557
Doom 3's graphics aged kind of fast, actually.
Not a shabby game though, has some of its own things going for it, but it could have been better, and classic Doom is just way more varied and 'versatile', with far more replay value.

As far as "devs accidentally going down the wrong alley" goes, there's far worse outcomes.

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>>5482835

>> No.5488575

>>5488557
>>5488560
Doom 3 still looks great youre both retarded. Pretty awful game, though.

>> No.5488576

>>5488572
The zombieman on the left looks like he shit his pants.

>> No.5488580

>>5488575
It looks ok for its time, but far better looking games came around not all much later.
It plays alright though, fun enough action.

You fag.

>> No.5488592

>>5487741
v19 was already feature complete.
He couldve stopped then and bagin making other mods (like other modders do).
V20 and further is Mark dryhumping the project until it dies because after the jounro spotlight and a popularity surge he made a Patreon on the premise of continued BD development and then bragged to everyone about how he quit his job and now living entirely off of it. His livelyhood is now dependent of his ability to continuously cram in more shit into BD, which turns it into an even more of a bloated mess.

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5488596

>>5488557
>>5488560
>aged
opinions disregarded

>> No.5488597

>>5487741
Nothing wrong with Brutal Doom. Gameplay mods are not my thing, and nobody forces to play it. Problem is the guys that the mod brings to community. The guys who can't play Doom without it, and claim that it is "the intended way to play Doom", while it's just some crappy mod, that steals stuff from everywhere and fucks up the gameplay balance.

>> No.5488601

>>5488596
Cry more, you dipshit.

>> No.5488607

>>5488575
Not sure if you actually remember doom3's release but it was criticized at the time for being too dark and having too glossy/plastic looking bump-mapping. It's not awful, and some liked the style more than others, but there wasn't a consensus that it looked great.

>> No.5488614

>>5488596
I'm curious if people that complain about games aging also complain about other common idioms on the basis of interpreting them literally? I'm no psych but it seems dyslexic or autistic or something.

>> No.5488619

>>5488614
It's aggressive autism.

>> No.5488671
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5488671

What do you think about playing classic games in VR?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ebyXt_vvu-Q
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ff6t1-UVYrY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dclwWcB8nVo

>> No.5488686

>>5488671
I don't like virtual reality even for new games.

>> No.5488778

>>5488374

Normal, more monsters.

>>5488553

Fuck, I thought they amped up the damage due to the glory kill mechanic, but this is Ultra Violence levels?

>> No.5488816

>>5488245
>https://www.tweaktown.com/news/65479/heretic-looks-hella-good-ai-powered-texture-pack/index.html

this is utterly retarded

>> No.5488820

>>5488149
If you read the replies, you'd know they actually want to "fall" for it.

>> No.5488828

>>5488592
funny how bd is even that popular despite the versatiliy of modding being one of doom's greatest feats and leaning more towards other modders
then again you could blame bdfans for not playing anything else besides the mod
why else do you think they wanted other mods to be compatible with brutal?

>> No.5488834

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F8Au5drk0mo

>> No.5488838

>>5488828
>then again you could blame bdfans for not playing anything else besides the mod
Stop parroting this shite, proof||GTFO. I discovered the modern doom-scene because of BD, and I've played a crap-ton of different stuff since. I even made PortaDOOM and its launcher so that others can try out the good stuff way easier than has been possible before.

>> No.5488842

>>5488838
You are not a BDFan then, you are fan of Doom in general, even if you came to it through BD.
The problem with BDFans is that they never move past it.

>> No.5488867

If we port every emulator and rom to a Doom sourceport we could save emulation by claiming you're just playing a mod

>> No.5488885

>>5482836
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=53010&sid=02bf2fae2438f0dcd3b36503f87ae744&start=1545#p1098655
MetaDoom got a new update.

>> No.5488886

I just finished DOOM II after not playing it for over 10 years and now I feel an empty void.
What's going on?

>> No.5488889

>>5488886
there's plenty of mapsets and mods made for it
the rebirth is a good one

>> No.5488894

>>5488886
Play Lunar Catastrophe for another perfect Ultimate DOOM experience. Eviternity for something new and different. Mutiny for something inbetween.

>> No.5488910

>>5488867

So that Mortal Kombat II Doom. Seems neat.

>> No.5488923

>>5488834
neat to see stephen out and about these days.

>> No.5488970

>Shrak isn't a Shrek-based mod for Quake
what the fuck

>> No.5488979

>>5488886
>What's going on?

A standard response to playing Doom II.

Play Master Levels and Final Doom to wash that out.

>> No.5489002

>>5488979
Seconding Final Doom, not seconding Master Levels

>> No.5489012

is it only me or does vulkan run worse than opengl on certain maps

>> No.5489031

>>5489012
>(opengl) MAP01 Entryway - 120-130 FPS
>(vulkan) MAP01 Entryway - 80-90 FPS
LOL

>> No.5489035

>>5489031
>>5489012
So what is Vulkan exactly?

>> No.5489040

>>5487970
Loved this map too. Expected it on the top 25 cacoward snubs list.

>> No.5489043

>>5488576
The undead tend to have poor sphincter control

>> No.5489045

>>5488580
Not the point. Doom 3 did undeniably push tech forward. I remember all the big guys in the industry collectively shat their pants when that E3 tech demo played. Press also rambled on for months.

>> No.5489047

>>5488592
This mod is basically his identity and his ego. He needs to drag the project on because that poor bastard has nothing else.

>> No.5489051

>>5489035
The next hot shit and meme-tier graphics API, yet to prove it does anything better.

>> No.5489057

>>5489035
Technically supposed to be the successor to OpenGL.

>> No.5489064

Gotta love Beautiful Doom. The tracers thingy is so silly, but so satisfying.

>> No.5489070

>>5489031
holy shit, same on my end.

right after witnessing Doom 2016 running like butter on my rig using that API. what the fuck.

>> No.5489094

>>5489070
Doom 4 is exceptionally well optimized by any standards, while GZDoom is kind of just ok, and is bottlenecked the most by the way scripts and actors are handled.

>> No.5489221

>>5489051
Whats a better viable alternative to Vulkan then?

>> No.5489260

>>5487870
the hud gets in the way worse than the original status bar did

>>5488350
>>5488284
Use GrafX2
But yeah
Also the mirroring tool is kinda lame, use it a tiny bit then go authentic with the rest
Also remember Smoothing mode so you can antialias even under 256 colors

>> No.5489263

>>5489221
there's no real discerniible reason to switch from opengl if you don't find issues with its performance. supposedly vulkan is the better optimized API out of the two simply because it's newer and ogl is starting to show its age. but but the way its been implemented here looks to be more of a gamble. ive read complaints about performance being essentially unchanged from ogl in terms of rendering and framerate stability, some cases like >>5489031 outright jeopardizing it and some others claiming it improves by at least 20- 30%. i wouldnt be too sure.

>> No.5489268

>>5488671
I hate VR and I dont think it has any place in the computer world.
If you want full immersion invent holography so you can actually walk in it with your own two legs.

>> No.5489271
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5489271

>>5488886
>>5488894
Also Plutonia 2 and Back To Saturn X
BTSX is very similar to eviternity
Plutonia 2 is my baseline for competency these days
> pistol start a demo of map20 in PL2 and complete the map. UV of course.
You have your assignment soldier.

>> No.5489274

>>5489031
>>5489035
>>5489057
as long as it runs on old hardware im fine with it
otherwise its literally nothing
Someone needs to get assembly language after this shit to make it optimized, and compatible with an eeePc just to show off

>> No.5489347
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5489347

What's the best way to play Quake 1/Quake 2/Quake 3 Arena on PC?

>> No.5489386

>>5488671
Can be actually fun if it's done right. Serious Sam VR was pretty damn good.

>> No.5489413

>>5489347
>Quake 1
Quakespasm
>Quake 2
Yamagi Quake 2
>Quake 3 Arena
ioquake3

>> No.5489414

So what is wrong with Thy Flesh Consumed? It's kinda quirky and gimmicky but I don't see as bad as people make it out to be. What I missed?

>> No.5489468

>>5489414
Starts out way too difficult.

>> No.5489480

>>5489347
>>5489413
Windows 98, duh

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5489486

>>5489480

>> No.5489516

>>5489414
The difficulty is all over the place. The first and second maps of the episode are balls-to-the-wall hard due to a shortage of health and ammo pickups and lack of maneuverability, to a degree that not even Plutonia can really prepare players for. After that, the difficulty seems to drop significantly with each map, which following the intensity of the first two, almost feels like a let-down.

I wouldn't call it bad, it just feels like the levels somehow got ordered incorrectly.

>> No.5489547

>>5489002
Master Levels (played as an episode) is more consistent than TNT

>> No.5489582

>>5489414
I love the episode. Nostalgia may affect my judgement though.

>> No.5489649
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I'm trying to recreate the Inferno from Old School Runescape in Doom.
webm related is the final fight, you have to stay behind the shield at all times, or the icon of sin will instantly kill you.

Did anyone ever try to make a similiar wad?
Waves of monsters attacking you?

>> No.5489663

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kDj5u-OHQw4

parts of this track remind me of some soundtrack from a 90s shooter
or am I just hallucinating?

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>>5489347
>>5489413
>not quake epsilon
>not quake 2 xp
>not cnq3 1.51

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>>5489031
>Being this autistic about framerate in 80s-90s video games.

>> No.5489708

>>5489663
reminded me of metal slug a lot, especially intro which sounded like boss introduction

>> No.5489720

>>5489686
Why not just tell him to play Quake 1.5 while you're at it?

>> No.5489737

>>5489701
The point is that Vulkan was expected to increase framerates, and apparently isn't. And the point isn't getting better FPS on Entryway, it's the possibility of better FPS on modern, complex maps. Use some fucking critical thinking skills to understand what the post is actually talking about before responding with a meme.

>> No.5489739

>>5489720
there is nothing wrong with cnq3

>> No.5489747

>>5489414
I like it, but the first couple of maps ride your ass real hard (though I like that challenge).

>> No.5489748

>>5489547
Master Levels are consistently boring IMO.

>> No.5489749

>>5489701
You goon.

>> No.5489773

>>5489737
doom 2016 run best with vulkan
or are you expecting something working optimized in gzdoom?

>> No.5489786

>>5489035
Since none of the 3 replies seem to have any technical knowledge whatsoever, I'll pitch in.
It's a successor to OpenGL that's even lower level, which basically means that developers can put in usage specific optimizations that they couldn't before, due to the structure of OpenGL. The caveat is that it needs more work to use since it's lower-level than OpenGL.

>> No.5489796

>>5489786
So basically, wait until the pie has cooled a bit before taking a slice?

>> No.5489797

>>5489786
To elaborate, this means that Graf is shit with Vulkan and doesn't know what he's doing. It's no fault of the API itself, and more just poor use of an API, causing it to be slower than it could be.

>> No.5489834

>>5489701
this is such a bizarre idea. what the fuck do you think happened in 2001 that changed anything about how games run at high frame rates. do you think 9/11 somehow heightened our consciousnesses or something

>> No.5489843

>>5489834
People started caring because input latency. Unless you want to spend money on freesync or GSync and make sure you have the right cards to go with it, your monitor pretty much never displays a frame the moment the GPU processes it. The solution then becomes make frames as quickly as possible so that when the monitor refreshes, the one in the buffer was put there recently.
That, and 120Hz/144Hz monitors exist.

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>>5488671
>>5489268
A haptic vr suit mixed with a bigger version of those treadmills is probably the closest we'll realistically get for now
But could you imagine an immersive Doom or Quake in vr? I'm just excited about the cardio potential it could have

>> No.5489857

>>5489853
>cardio potential
>doom run speed
how about I just pass out right now?

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>>5489857
Wanna git gud? Gotta get fit
How do you think doomguy feels? Who said going solo on Hell was gonna be easy?

>> No.5489883

>>5489862
Listen, I'm just not gonna be able to run from an arch-vile in real life.

>> No.5489892

>>5489268
I like it.

>> No.5489915

>>5489843
are you so fucking stupid that you think people actually started caring about "input latency" in 2001 when 10 years later it was still basically universal that games didn't know / care about frame pacing?

>> No.5489920

>>5489915
People were thinking that 128 tick servers in Counter Strike were somehow better than 64 tick servers even if ping didn't allow for it back in 2001. This isn't anything new.

>> No.5489947

christ the font in the new gzdoom menu looks like garbage

>> No.5489954

>>5489947
I see yet another idiot reflexively dislikes new things rather than giving it a moment to see if it's any good.

>> No.5489959

>>5489954
it just looks like shit and its inconsistent sorry

but i guess we really needed to localize stuff like DISPLAY OPTIONS

>> No.5489961

>>5489954
>>5489959
It's a more practical way of handling text, but it could look a lot better.

>> No.5489997

>>5489954
>don't ask questions just consume product and get excited for next product

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>>5489954
Ehhh, this doesn't really fit Doom's aesthetic as well as the old font did.

>> No.5490025

>>5489663
I actually first started listened to Discipline because of "Thela Hun Ginjeet," which I'd read was similar to Doom II intermission music:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q-5hLiZnJhU
>>5489414
I wasn't aware that people disliked it. It's my favorite episode after Knee-Deep in the Dead. E4M2 and E4M6 really chap my hide, though.
>>5489954
He already tried it, doofus, and that's why he doesn't like the look of it.

>> No.5490030

>>5490012
It looks like it's grabbed from a DOS prompt, I hate it.
Is it possible to replace it with a custom font?

>> No.5490031

>>5489997
>getting this mad over a font

>> No.5490036

>>5489663
King Crimson inspired at least one of Doom 2s tracks directly, and I'm sure there's other games in the 90s which imitated it as well.

Also Robert Fripp is a crazy old grandpa.

>> No.5490037

>>5490025
>implying that someone who actually gave it a chance would think its complete garbage in spite of the fact that it's still readable and not completely ugly

>> No.5490040

>>5490031
Yeah. It's so incredibly visually uninteresting to look at, as opposed to the original small font in Doom.

It's far more flexible and practical, sure, but it could have not looked incredibly dull.

>> No.5490043

>>5490037
The new font is ugly though, and clashes with the rest of the game.

>> No.5490045

>>5490040
At least it isn't offensively dull.
The real question I guess is why completely remove the old font when it still works fine for english?

>> No.5490047

>>5489701
if baseline is 120 and something knocks it to 90 that means anything that really pushes it will be like 18 compared to 30.
And thats nasty.
And performance hit is unacceptable. Because when someone drops some bloated ass mod which happens to be really good to play, you'll be getting serious lag.

>>5489686
>>5489720
IS there a Quake 1.5 at this point?
Id love to play quake 1 in the q2 engine with higher detail weapons and maybe monsters. But last I heard nobody was pulling it off correctly. Could be I havent found the good one.
> cnq3
whats that?

>> No.5490049

>>5490043
>ugly
It's not that bad. If anything, it's a little dull.
>clashes
Yeah, it isn't very Doom. Then again, neither are foreign languages.

>> No.5490061

>>5490045
>>5490049
I think it's offensively dull.
I don't even dislike the idea of revamping fonts to make them more practical to work with and modify, in fact I think that's good, but this font looks too sharp and sterile, it really doesn't jive with Doom's aesthetics in the slightest.

It needs some volume to it, subtle shading. Doom's font looks decidedly not flat, like they're actual physical objects in some physical space, with physical light, you see it only from the front yet they look like they could be objects in full threw dimensions.

Compare to this new font that looks entirely flat and like it's from an MS-Word document.

>> No.5490065

>>5490047
cnq3 is CPMA only

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>>5489786
>>5489796
>>5489797
All of this probably.
Its still got too much fog of war on it.

>>5489892
>>5489883
>>5489853
To be worth it the visuals have to be apex quality and im talking like FC5 otherwise its not worth it, its going to be shit and tarnish the experience.
Its best to leave pixels on a computer screen where they belong.
I dont think we should be delving into making this stuff too realistic because they are just games. They're art. Its better to do real things outside.
VR stuff should be public arcade sorta shit so you cant just do it all the time.

>>5490012
>>5490030
*shrug
Find whatever the resource is thats packed into the data and replace it with a different font?
I think its a truetype file or one of those windows raster fonts as far as the format is concerned.
>>5490031
>>5490061
>>5490045
its featurecreep where it doesnt belong, there's nothing wrong with scrolling menus
It should be the same pixel size as everything else in the game too. Continuity error.

>> No.5490079

>>5490068
They presumably had to use a higher resolution font to get it to actually localize. So there's nothing that can be done except hope that Graf gets the idea to add the option to revert it for english users.
As for the "unnecessary feature creep" it has literally nothing to do with scrolling and everything with the new font.

>> No.5490080

>>5490065
I still dont know what that is either

>> No.5490083

>>5490079
"localize"?
Why is that even a concern?
Thats like browser and word processor shit.

>> No.5490090

>>5490083
It's a concern because non-english speakers probably also play.

>> No.5490091

>>5490047
>IS there a Quake 1.5 at this point?
it's just a "brutalized" mod

>> No.5490094

>>5490090
it's not a VN, it's an engine for a FPS from 1993

>> No.5490097

>>5490047
>>5490080
cnq3 is a ioq3 fork from before ioq3 started to use sdl for mouse input
it's used to play cpma (a "pro" mod)

>> No.5490103

>>5490094
Doesn't make a difference. If people who play read languages other than English should be accommodated. Do you know how useless the options menu or text screens would be to literally all of us if they were exclusively in Russian?

>> No.5490104

>>5490103
someone would put out a guide eventually

>> No.5490106

>>5490090
Then it should be done like this:
Download special version of gzdoom with a localization .dll which the game looks for. If its not there then the game doesnt apply those modifications.
Keeps it compartmentalized and easy to maintain.
Because you only have to put that .dll out ONCE and if you gotta make any changes to it they aren't spaghetti inside the main executable
Geez

>>5490097
Are you talking about that high definition Quake 3 that gets used to play Quake 2 maps and guns at QuakeCon?

>> No.5490110

>>5490106
>cue the million PMs to graf or whoever takes complaints about what a dll is or some stupid shit like that because people are incompetent
I don't like Graf either, but I'd rather not give him another thing to bitch at.

>> No.5490112

>>5490110
Besides, the doom font was not designed with foreign languages in mind.

>> No.5490115 [DELETED] 

The font change is just yet an another round of stupid horseshit Graf forced on the users for a fucking stupid reason. An another reason to stick to older versions, as if there weren't enough reasons already.

>> No.5490118

>>5490106
I have no idea, I don't use to watch other people play and I live at the other side of the world
but, yeah, probably quakecon is a good bet for cpma

>> No.5490124

Geez the number of children who have to have things their way is ridiculous, isn't it?

>> No.5490128

>>5490115
Fuck off, idiot.

>>5490112
Didn't stop people from making Cyrillic and katakana char sets for Doom.

>> No.5490131

>>5490124
Graf detected.

>> No.5490132 [DELETED] 

>>5490115
So true. The menu having a different font makes it LITERALLY unplayable. I'll never play one of the thousands of map & mods for GZDoom again, this is just too egregious.

>> No.5490135

>>5490124
why do you have to be so inflammatory toward people sharing their opinions lmao

>> No.5490138

>>5490135
>The font change is just yet an another round of stupid horseshit Graf forced on the users for a fucking stupid reason.
>Implying its me being inflammatory
>>5490131
>Complains about people complaining about dumb shit
>Must be a shill

>> No.5490140

>>5486919
Faster
FASTER

>> No.5490142

>buildgdx launches at 320x200 resolution without music
>changing resolution crashes the game
???

>> No.5490147

>>5490138
why would you treat one obvious falseflag post as several users

>> No.5490153

>>5490147
>christ the font in the new gzdoom menu looks like garbage

>> No.5490158

>>5490138
>>5490153
I thought you had meant one guy, but TWO? damn.
(and that's in the scenario it's not the same poster).

>> No.5490164

>>5490138
How is it complaining about dumb shit, when Graf forces a stupid change that makes the program objectively worse with practically zero benefits. Who the fuck actually asked for the fonts to be changed, other than the voices in King Lunatic's head while he's running the asylum?

>> No.5490167

>>5490164
>ease of localization
>a bad thing
>AWBJEKTUHVWUHWYEEE

>> No.5490173

So you guys play any good mods or wads lately? What about a mod or wad you enjoyed but wish you could change something about it?

>> No.5490187

i am looking for some doom enhancement mods. how do people like babel doom? does it feel like a better version of doom to you? are the starting weapons actually balanced? i definitely still die a lot even with the smg which i really like. aside from the things i like such as quicker weapon switch speed and that the highest difficulty doesn't have respawning enemies there are things i dislike. for example, weapon kickback is something i dislike but its nothing crazy and explosions seem to happen more than once which bothers my autism. i also dislike the weapon tracers but there was actually an option to turn that off

>> No.5490191

>>5490131
>>5490124
Yes, actually.
This is for the fans of the game.
If they dont like it, then its not serving them.
And yes it does create a vacuum of demand for something that will, if things get bad enough.
Its just like economics, if you dont make something people want, they dont buy it. Except money isnt even involved, so it Really has to be something they like.

>> No.5490195

>>5490167
>the niche audience of fans of original doom from countries that need wierd alphabet while also not being able to make sense of the game on english
If playing videogames has thought me anything, it's that russians and arabs know enough english that they can use it as a common ground to flame eachother while someone runs down mid.

But yes, it's totally worth it to make the font worse for 99% of everyone playing the game without giving them a free choice to keep using the old one, so it's easier to localize it for players who can only understand alphacentaurian non-linear crop circle 4D code.

>> No.5490201

>>5490191
>>5490195
>Fuck foreign fans of the game, only english speaking people should be able to actually READ anything
>It doesn't matter that I'm probably one of two people that actually care about this and won't just keep using 3.7 or whatever their preferred version is because they aren't dumbasses who go on the internet to complain about shit

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i liked the old fonts
the new one is too tall and widely spaced
the old ones fit with the main menu font, the new one clashes stylistically
and they can't be changed anymore

>> No.5490209

>>5490201
If you're a foreigner you already know english.

>> No.5490210

>>5490209
>Implying America and the UK are the only parts of the world with an internet connection

>> No.5490213

>>5490201
so what is the reason to ditch the old ones entireley and irreversibly

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>>5490209
There is seriously no reasoning with these people.

>> No.5490215

>>5490142
There's a startup menu where you can select resolution, midi driver, etc. Open bloodgdx.ini and make startup = 1.

>> No.5490220

>>5490210
>>5490214
If you're from virtually anywhere else on the planet with an internet connection you know english too. You've got to for commerce and to be able to participate online in other regards. Sites do not just instantly translate themselves if you're using a different localization.
Its a big thing overseas to be taught english in school to be able to compete and move around internationally. Everyone (in the US) knows this.

>> No.5490223

>>5490215
ayy, much appreciated my dude. that did the trick.

>> No.5490226

>>5490220
>Implying that the internet isn't so massive that there are entire parts of it used almost exclusively by a certain country

>> No.5490227

>>5490187
I like Babel quite a lot. It feels like a pretty natural ramp up in difficulty compared to vanilla doom, it kicks my ass about as often as vanilla Doom did back when I was younger and inexperienced. Also I recommend the plasma SMG or pistol over the standard SMG. The plasma SMG has the benefit of being able to pepper enemies with a few shots before switching to another weapon, and the pistol is arguably a better investment for bullets until you get the chaingun.

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>>5490226
then they can translate stuff by hand for themselves if they want, its their fault for not learning english like everyone else and joining the world market.
> failing to learn the common tongue
> t. any year past 2000 really
Rome conquered the world with its calendar
England conquered the world with its language
The US is dominating the world with military tech
its one of those deal-with-it sorta territories

>> No.5490256

>>5490220
East Asian artist twitter mainly tweets in their own languages and they tend not to be very fluent in English and other languages. Not to mention Japanese communities are typically insular as fuck.

>> No.5490264

new
>>5490261

>> No.5490272

>>5490090
I'd say that most people who are interested in Doom probably already know English. Beyond that, the game is incredibly straight forward and you don't actually need to understand English to play it.

However, I can see why some would like an easier way to translate it just for a wider audience in countries where people barely speak English at all.

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>>5490250
>common language
wrong by a whole 100 mil

>> No.5490296

>>5490281
thats by number
not by area
lumping everything in one place makes it common there, but nowhere else

>> No.5490307

>>5490281
Who gives a fuck about the Chinese?

>> No.5490321 [DELETED] 

>>5490281
bugmen don't count.

>> No.5490327

>>5490321
>caught out
>immediately goes full /pol/dditor

>> No.5490331

>>5490327
> ignore actual points >>5490296

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>>5490327
Hello, Chang. Don't know why you'd be here, seeing as how games with demons and skeletons are too scary for your shithole of a country.

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>>5490336

>> No.5490342

>>5490327
>>5490338
> >reddit
good comeback
you have anything to add to the actual point?

>> No.5490346 [DELETED] 

>>5490338
I thought Reddit would love the Chinese?

>> No.5490357

>>5490256
"not to be very fluent in English" is still enough to get through Doom menus, and all the relevant option terminology (like anisotropy, v-synch etc.) is going to be in english in any case

>> No.5490440

>>5490097
Why wouldn't you want SDL?

>> No.5490579

>>5490031
>getting this mad someone doesn't have the same opinion
god damn what's with the sudden influx of the graf defense force who feel the need to scream about every negative opinion, no matter how ultimately harmless

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>>5483867
I saw "Zan Dakimakura" and assumed someone made a body pillow of this guy. Then I realized his name was spelled differently, and I got really bummed out.

>> No.5490631

Guys ever since zandro 3.0 came i can't play online, i used to be able to play until my ping hit like 300 but now i can't even play any server unless it has like 70ms of ping which is like none.

>> No.5490672

>>5490631
Maybe try a computer at a friend's place or a fresh install? It could a bad Zandronum settings file, could be trash internet, could be a virus, or it could be Zandronum 3.0 in general. I know once in awhile I saw some servers running old versions, can you play on those fine?

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Wow people on /vr/ are ignorant about actual VR
the holodeck isn't happening

>> No.5490746

New thread.

>>5490742
>>5490742
>>5490742

>> No.5490910

>>5489749
Yeah, right. As if adding more frames to a programmed with a certain amount of frames in mind automatically makes the animation more fluid. Enjoy stuff like screen tearing and the like.

>> No.5491126

>>5489413
>YamagiQ2
Q2PRO, Vkquake2 and Quake2XP exists too nvidia is using Q2XP and vkquake2 for their Remaster port.

>> No.5491138

>>5489701
Some people are redardly enough to forget that games back then had bottlenecks due to hardware limitation, or had its speed tied to monitor framerates, making them buggy in highest framerates.

Wing Commander 2 is unplayable on Modern Windows due to that, everything goes unfuckingly fast

>> No.5491214

>>5490440
I think it removed that abstraction layer to have 1 picosecond less of input lag, I'm not sure really

>> No.5491332

>>5489480
>Quake 1
quake.exe
>Quake 2
quake2.exe
>Quake 3 Arena
quake3.exe

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