Mugen thread

[Anonymous No.5476486]

Post your mugen, it counts right? It was made in 1999.

[Anonymous No.5476512]

Post that "later the same frame" image.

[Anonymous No.5476520]

who /saltybet/ here

[Anonymous No.5476559]

>>5476520
i usually make my own

[Anonymous No.5476638]

>no modern easy to use and versatile successor to Mugen has ever come along
I will literally pay money for this. Someone do a kickstarter.

[Anonymous No.5477283]

>>5476486
So much potential... Looks like it was spoiled by the cheap stuff. Still, I love it

[Anonymous No.5477372]

>>5476512

[Anonymous No.5477379]

>>5476638
There is one Mugen content creator who is in the process of making one, but it's still early enough that there's not much to show.

[Anonymous No.5477414]

>>5476638
What is the current one lacking in your opinion?
It has come a long way through official and unofficial updates, I remember checking it last year after not checking it for a long time and realizing they now support HD resolutions and stuff.

[Anonymous No.5477421]

>>5476486
>stage has one artstyle
>one character has another artstyle
>the other character has even another artstyle

[Anonymous No.5477915]

>>5476638
Most users are dirty latinos that literally can't accept a new engine.

[Anonymous No.5477923]

>>5476638
How bout one without a broken engine?

[Anonymous No.5477942]

>>5477421
you can put together a matching Mugen if you wanted. most people prefer a clashing, chaotic mess though.

>>5477923
Mugen works fine and can replicate most things from other fighting games, at least the characters, /IF/ you're willing to put in the work.
and that's the problem, Unity, UE and UX in general turned people lazy and stupid.

[Anonymous No.5478079]

>>5477942
I know, loved the JoJo mugen with new characters CPS3 style. Although they're not perfect, I think it's good enough

[Anonymous No.5478087]

>>5476486
Does it work on ipad or tablets?

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[Anonymous No.5478673]

>>5477421
That is what makes it fun. Things from a bunch of different games lol so up against each other.

[Anonymous No.5478690]

>>5477372
I don't get it

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[Anonymous No.5480413]

>>5478690
something about changing in the options

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[Anonymous No.5482813]

>>5477942
luddite

[Anonymous No.5482880]

>>5476486
Fuck this thing. I couldn't find any character worth crap on the internet decades ago or even ways to set up the windows version (which was supposedly a glitchy mess), and some other people took for granted that I used the DOS one for some reason. People would also actively hoard 80% of the available characters/stages and "trade" them for other characters like a fucking card game. FUCK this shit super hard and anything it stood for.

[Anonymous No.5482886]

>>5478130
my issue with the wide-screen resolution is that it is cropped as opposed to gave the same field of view as, per say, capcoms cps2 games.

[Anonymous No.5483745]

>>5482886
yeah i kinda don't like the widescreen feature in mugen 1.1 but at least it has a zooming out and in feature like cps3 games like jojo had but then again when it does feature it it makes the perspective of the stage all screwy like if the characters shrunk and the background is giant til the camera zooms away

[Anonymous No.5484641]

>>5482813
I'm not against tech advancement but it's undeniable that people in the field went from dumb to downright retarded around the time UX became a thing.
back in the day the lowly IT guy was expected to be able to fix C syntax errors, code a full php server and even do the wiring around the office.

a program is not necessarily bad just because it's not accessible so long it doesn't constrict development
and like I said, most things character-related can be recreated in Mugen to some degree

[Anonymous No.5484765]

>>5477421
It's just part of the charm.

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[Anonymous No.5485639]

>>5476638
The closest thing I can think of is IKEMEN, which is basically rewritten open source Mugen with online. Or that one plugin for unity that lets you make 3D fighters.
But yeah, considering the engine's popularity, it's too bad no one has made some sort of modern successor yet.
Not that I don't understand why. I tried my hand at making a Tux Fighters a while back, and let me tell you, making a competent fighting game engine is some tough shit. Certainly not something you can do on your own, not unless you got years of free time

[Anonymous No.5487801]

>>5485639
why

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[Anonymous No.5487873]

>>5487801
Well, the scale of such a project is much bigger than your average game.
First, you need to make the base fighting engine. This is already no easy task, you need to create a lot of systems to handle stuff like rendering, inputs, player control, hitboxes, character states, special conditions, AI support, etc...
Then, you need to make an actual game on top. Let's say we make something simple, 4 characters and a handful of stages. Creating that kind of content is incredibly time consuming. You need to draw the art assets for each character, program a moveset for every one of them, then balance them so one isn't over/underpowered compared to the others (something that can be tricky to do on your own, since that sort of thing is hard to judge when testing against non-human opponents)
Now that's just for a "standard" fighting game. Let's say you want to make it moddable. Than it gets even more complicated. You need to make sure your engine's code is structured in such a way that it can accept any sort of additions users could throw at it. And since you probably want the modding aspect of your game to be easily accessible (otherwise, why would you make it moddable in the first place?) you're probably gonna need to create tools for users to easily create new content. Basically, making a game moddable is like adding a whole new project on top of the existing one.
AND THEN, since we live in the age of the internet, we can't really consider a fighting game without some sort of online mode now can we? Networking is already a tough thing to do in a normal game, but considering this is a fighting game, then it's even harder because it need to be exceptionally fast and precise. Also, you need some way to ensure people who fight against each other have the same files so there is no discrepancies between players. Also, you need a solid anti-cheat system. Also... (etc, etc)
tl;dr : don't make a fighting game unless you got a whole team of people who know what they're doing.

[Anonymous No.5487986]

>>5482880
MUGENArchive is doing a bang-up job of keeping MUGEN from being MikuMikuDance

[Anonymous No.5488228]

>>5484765
>dampir's Sprites
INTO THE TRASH it gors

but as i said before, no one on the community Cant get the fucking CVS sprite style right, besides the Late POTS

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[Anonymous No.5488584]

>>5487986
MUGENArchive would be a lot better if the owner wasn't a massive sperg. There are better sites that freely put hundreds of characters up for download, anyways.

[Anonymous No.5488605]

for any anons that might not know
http://www.saltybet.com/

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>>5476638
stfu u fat fuck

[Anonymous No.5490376]

really wish I could sprite for shit
I'm a great coder but can't make a cape move to save my life

[Anonymous No.5490391]

Hardly /vr/ since it's in HD but I quite like the build I've got going. I need to go and fix all of the stages to work well with MVC2 characters though

[Anonymous No.5490393]

>>5490391
Oops

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[Anonymous No.5490540]

>>5490401
Just looking at this makes me not want to play

[Anonymous No.5490657]

>>5476486
Characters in Mugen games are completely unbalanced.

[Anonymous No.5490661]

>>5490540
Why

[Anonymous No.5490664]

>>5490661
quality over quantity
just look at this mess

[Anonymous No.5490665]

>>5490657
mugen is not exactly plug and play if you're looking for anything resembling an actual fighting game.
you need to buff/nerf characters accordingly. I prefer to just break all of them.

[Anonymous No.5490670]

>>5490664
But they're all fun to play. I spent a lot of time picking only good characters

[Anonymous No.5490856]

>>5476486
Is there a simple way to get mugen and a bunch of characters in a pack or torrent or something? Asking for a friend.

[Anonymous No.5491323]

>>5490856
All Characters Battle Zero has 1000 or so characters and 1000 or so stages. It is extremely dated, by this point, however. It's all 2001-2007 content. Some youtube guy has it uploaded in parts so he can make money, and it also has a torrent, but I'm uploading it to MEGA to do away with that bullshit forever.
https://mega.nz/#!4RAjRYQQ!iq1Jpe131C6fgHvUnENnd9UTMiLijghLaipvkruxdh4
Unzip and it's ready to go. Be sure to run it comparability mode, specifically for Windows XP Service Pack 3.

[Anonymous No.5491330]

>>5490856
some guy uploaded last night a big screenpack with 1000 characters and stages from almost a decade ago
"All Characters Battle Zero has 1000 or so characters and 1000 or so stages. It is extremely dated, by this point, however. It's all 2001-2007 content. Some youtube guy has it uploaded in parts so he can make money, and it also has a torrent, but I'm uploading it to MEGA to do away with that bullshit forever.
https://mega.nz/#!4RAjRYQQ!iq1Jpe131C6fgHvUnENnd9UTMiLijghLaipvkruxdh4
Unzip and it's ready to go. Be sure to run it comparability mode, specifically for Windows XP Service Pack 3."

[Anonymous No.5491337]

>>5491330
Kicking rad, thanks.

[Anonymous No.5492112]

>>5491330
How I'my download without using the extension

[Anonymous No.5492143]

>>5492112
chrome

[Anonymous No.5492219]

>>5492143
But I have Firefox.

[Anonymous No.5492226]

>>5491330
wait a minute is this the same one?

[Anonymous No.5492578]

>>5491330
It's all 2001-2007 content

[Anonymous No.5492668]

>>5492578
The older the better.

[Anonymous No.5492671]

>>5492668
gonna have to disagree with you there
most good Mugen content was released /after/ 2007

[Anonymous No.5492682]

>>5492219
You can easily remove that shit browser and install Chrome at any time. You don't have to be outdated and retarded forever.

[Anonymous No.5492721]

>>5492682
But isn't giggle chrome A BOTNET??

[Anonymous No.5493786]

>>5492721
what's that

[Anonymous No.5493839]

>>5476520
back to the mines with you! ᕕ( ཀ ʖ̯ ཀ)ᕗ

[Anonymous No.5494330]

>>5492578
it's okay

[Anonymous No.5494480]

>>5492671
any good?

[Anonymous No.5494489]

>>5476486
A friend of mine did like a weird mugen that I loved playing just because of ridiculous the figthers were:

>Bald Ryu x Shitty Pallet Swap of Guile called 'Tigre Negro' (some brazilian guy did it)
>Car from Street Fighter x Health Bar
>Gyigas x Google
>The Abstract Concept of Time x Dark Warrior
>The letter 'G' x Andrew Mussels The Assistant

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[Anonymous No.5494936]

>>5492682
It's a botnet

[Anonymous No.5494939]

>>5492578
But muh rare characters

[Anonymous No.5494979]

>>5494936
are you sure

[Anonymous No.5495524]

>>5494480
the pack or any good characters?
because the pack is terrible and I'm terrible with names so I can't remember any creator from the top of my head. need to check my collection.
but PotS and team Z2 is a great way to start a mugen roster.

[Anonymous No.5495548]

I'm a mugen coder
what's your opinion on hentai characters?

I know most people find them cringey and I agree, they're all poorly made and the sprites are janky as fuck
but what if someone capable ported them over from H games and came up with a proper "system"?

asking for a friend

[Anonymous No.5495739]

>>5495548
I just watch the videos and fap to them.

[Anonymous No.5495807]

>>5495739
what do you like about them? do you mind the janky edits, like non-H, actual fighting characters getting dicks copy-pasted onto them? or would you prefer characters that exist specifically to get raped?

[Anonymous No.5495816]

>>5495807
It's like official art, but lewd. I always like my lewds when they get close to the official art style. And I just like hentai in the form of pixel art, even if most of them use the same copypasted positions. Favorite characters and the x-ray vision are a nice bonus.

[Anonymous No.5496038]

>>5495548
Go for it man, I would play that shit

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[Anonymous No.5498504]

>>5476486
I used to think MUGEN was really cool back in the day. I used to fuck around and just shove everyone in that I was cool/quality worthy enough to have in a fighting game from my favorites. The problem with MUGEN I soon discovered was that every character has their own physics engine and nothing feels like it fits together leading to a very lets say.. unconvincing product. Even games that are 100% custom by 1 person that did literally everything, still plays like a MUGEN and is too lacking. Its a shame because its one of the coolest things I've ever seen. I guess what it comes down to is cool doesnt always = good. cool thread though, never realized it came out in '99

[Anonymous No.5498761]

>>5498504
I know Mugen inside and out and can confirm it can work if you're willing to put in the time and work, which most people aren't.
even PotS, which made some of the best Mugen characters, adjusted them to "mugen physics".
I remember him saying 1:1 ports could easily be done but didn't work because every other character had basic as fuck mugen states. Amachi tried way back when to port Sol from GGXX and it ended up not working at all because no character supported his customs states.

basically you need to know mugen intimately and put together a roster yourself for it to resemble a real fighting game, althoug it can definitely be done

[Anonymous No.5498926]

>>5498761
have you ever made anything for mugen?

[Anonymous No.5498943]

>>5495524
the characters

[Anonymous No.5499145]

>>5498926
yes, lots
although nothing new because I keep undermining myself

[Anonymous No.5499163]

>>5498943
Goku, Vegeta and Frieza by team Z2
Ryu and Shin Akuma by PotS, Ken by JMorphMan
Sol, Ky and Justice by Muteki
hell, anything by those people is a great way to start your roster

SNK/KoF is tough due to sheer variety but Zillion is a decent bet

[Anonymous No.5499184]

>>5491330
this is why /vr/ is great. keep being awesome

[Anonymous No.5499221]

nopan edits best edits

[Anonymous No.5499316]

>>5499145
how hard was it? what did you make? characters?

[Anonymous No.5499594]

>>5499163
Almost all Z2 characters are recommended. There's a couple joke characters like Farmer you can ignore though

[Anonymous No.5500150]

>>5499316
everything, characters, stages, whole screenpacks.
it's really not that hard but the "language" is extremely rudimentary and would turn most people used to modern, fluid coding away.

[Anonymous No.5501047]

>>5490670
I like it. Wanna link it?

[Anonymous No.5501436]

>>5501047
You be lying?

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[Anonymous No.5501851]

>>5500150
post links or i dont believe you m8

[Anonymous No.5502135]

>>5501436
Nope. Would like to give it a try.
I'm not the anon who said it's shit though.

[Anonymous No.5502724]

[Anonymous No.5503718]

mugen's gotten kinda boring rather play the real deal

[Anonymous No.5504059]

>>5501047
It's 11gb. If the thread isn't dead by the time it's done compressing/uploading, I'll link you to it

[Anonymous No.5504590]

>>5504059
Can't wait for it desu.

[Anonymous No.5505897]

>>5504059
I'd like it as well please. Lost my mugen folder a while ago with a corrupted hard drive.

[Anonymous No.5505946]

Last time I played Mugen, I was meticulously collecting, resizing and tracing spritesheets to make them all the same size/style. My next step was to synchronize all of the character's move controls to one similar to smash Bros (So that you could easily learn the movesets of any character.) But when I showed my friends they didn't get it and frankly thought my project was dumb.

Maybe I should pick that back up again.

[Anonymous No.5506428]

>>5504590
>>5505897
I stayed up late for you bitch ass niggas, you're welcome.
https://mega.nz/#!SgdXlKZQ!jafbIUTwjuoSa7MhJr9aAr2_3haARqgc9o3Fby_-GKM

[Anonymous No.5507121]

>>5506428
thanks

[Anonymous No.5507139]

>>5507121
Thank you anon.

[Anonymous No.5507151]

>>5506428
Thank you, you beautiful bastard