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How much longer can I feel special for owning this game before Sega ruins everything and releases it digitally?

>> No.5459387
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>>5459379
>hoarder fags btfo yet again

the salt must flow

>> No.5459390

>>5459379
It's available digitally regardless of whether or not Sega is actively making money from it?

>> No.5459546

>>5459379
Did they find the source code or something? The price won't change too drastically. Earthbound didn't change much after it hit the VC and it has way more copies than PDS.

>> No.5459557

>>5459546
I'm not worried about the resale value, I want all the money I threw at this game to have meaning until the day I die.

>> No.5459580
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It's been available digitally for the last 20 years. Also didn't they throw out the source code for it and a bunch of other games out of spite when the Dreamcast almost bankrupt them?

>> No.5459593

>>5459557
What meaning does it currently have for you?

>> No.5459601

>>5459580
>.zip

>> No.5459605

>>5459601
Probably .bin/.cue files.

>> No.5459629

>>5459593
That no man should ever have to spend what I did for a video game but I did so no digital rerelease at a reasonable price will ever be allowed to take that from me...

>> No.5460242

>>5459379
Until you don't. You have box art, etc.

Not all digital releases have that kind of thing as extras.

>> No.5460246

>>5459379
You feel special for owning a ¥5,000 game? Woah...

>> No.5460320

>>5459379
How are they going to do that without the source code? it would be awesome if Sega created their own saturn emulator to run digital editions of their classics, though

>> No.5460360

>>5460320
That's what I'm expecting them to do at some point. Probably for the Nintendo Switch.

>> No.5460421

>>5459379
It's been available digitally for the past decade or longer

>> No.5460906

>>5459557
>I'm not worried about the resale value
>I want all the money I threw at this game to have meaning until the day I die.
Are you an ESL student or just plain retarded?

>> No.5460927

>>5459379
I, too, own this game.

>> No.5460961

>>5459379
not much longer. sceencap this

>> No.5461743

>>5460906
I mean I’m never going to sell the game to try to profit off it. However I don’t want my initial investment to ever depreciate because it pisses me off that I had to spend that much. If I had to pay that much, everyone has to.

>> No.5461750

>>5461743
That's some real retarded boomer logic right there.

>> No.5461834

>>5461743
>I mean
*pisses in your ear*
It's raining.

>> No.5462117

Sega lost the source code, so don't expect an upgrade. They had fired a lot of people and whoever had it, deleted it.

Best they can do is release it on a poorly hidden emulator the way Sony did with Umjammer Lammy on PC (was actually running on a PSP emulator)

Or how Panzer Dragoon unlockable on Orta for Xbox was just the Windows PC version running on an emulator inside Xbox.

>> No.5462783

>>5462117
>Sega lost the source code

They didn't lose it. They threw it away.

>> No.5463376

you shouldn't feel special to begin with. the game is interesting but next to the ps1's jrpgs...it's not even in the top 10 jrpgs of that console generation.

>> No.5463508

>>5462783
That happened with a lot of Japanese devs back then though didn't it? They almost never thought ahead about re-releasing games.

>> No.5463514

>>5462117
they don't need the source code for a port. In fact the source code would be mostly useless for a port as it's deeply tied to the weirdness of the saturn.

>> No.5463540

>>5463514
What’s it like being so overconfident that you’ll willingly offer up completely wrong information and act like it’s true?

>> No.5463541

>>5463540
what's it like having the best HD porters in the industry agree with me while you're in agreement with some of the worst HD ports ever done?

>> No.5463545

>>5459379
lol everybody owns this game

>> No.5463550

>>5463541
[Citation Needed]

>> No.5464527

>>5459379
>Sega ruins everything and releases it digitally?
You know Sega doesn't make good ports out of the Genesis/Mega Drive ones, right?

>> No.5464532

>>5463540
He is right, Sega could reverse engineer the game if they wanted. It would cost as much as making a new game tho.

>> No.5464893

>>5463550
Not that guy but seriously, you can't be so blind. Bluepoint are on record as saying they start with the retail disc, make an emulator on PC and start replacing code and assets as they go and they have made the best HD versions going. The reason they give is that there's very little chance any source code you are EVENTUALLY given WON'T build the retail version.

Meanwhile Silent Hill HD was a disaster due in large part to being given source code that didn't build to the retail version.

>> No.5464904

>>5463508
>>5463514
True. I've been a programmer for 20+ years and things have changed massively over that time. Everyone unknowingly relied on compiler and library quirks that only became apparent when they try and build their old projects folder in a modern Clang.
The first step to bringing source code up to date 20 years on is to first recreate the build environment used back then. This is NEVER documented by the devs and libraries are rarely stored with the source code, because libFuckingEssential.a comes with the debug kit and everyone has it, right? So it takes a heap of specialist knowledge to reverse engineer it and track down stuff that was jealously guarded by companies that don't exist anymore.
Then when you have a working reference build you can start migrating it to a new build environment testing as you go.
If you can't do that, then you're making a reimplementation.

>> No.5464917
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>>5459379
A digital release will benefit people who want to actually play yhe game.

Collector fags such as yourself can always feel like special snowflakes for owning physical, and lording it over everyone all the time.

A digital release has yet tomdevalie a physical copy, and physical is always more desireable.

If you aren't OK with that, then just find another pretty shiny to lord over everyone you literal homosexual.

>> No.5464920

>>5464917
>devalue

Small phone and fat fingers is a bad combo.

>> No.5465004

>>5464904
The good news is a Polish developer named ForeverEntertainment is under contract with Sega doing remakes of PD original and Zwei.

If it goes well you can bet your ass Sega will have someone do Saga.

They can always include an emulator and Rom for purists.

>> No.5466074

>>5465004
>If it goes well you can bet your ass Sega will have someone do Saga.
And if it goes bad they will never touch a saturn game ever.

>> No.5466524

>>5459580
>saturn emulation

>> No.5466730

>>5461743
I bought it when it was released so I guess I didn't pay as much as you. How do you feel about that?