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5446924 No.5446924 [Reply] [Original]

>*makes a romhack of link’s awakening*
here’s your new zelda, bro

>> No.5446978

And that is a good thing

>> No.5447000

It's baffling how much worse Oracle of Ages is compared to Seasons. Did they just put all the good ideas into Seasons and then make a second game out of the trash?

>> No.5447052

Both are better than LA though

>> No.5447056

>>5447000
it's not worse. it's more difficult and convoluted and kinda frustrating but it has a lot of good parts too.
I liked the Zora village and the Tokay being Tokay and shit. the worst part is Rolling Ridge though. So confusing. the Goron dancing game is awful too because you need to do it more often than the one in Subrosia.

>> No.5447058

>>5447000
>It's baffling how much worse Oracle of Ages & Seasons is compared to Link's Awakening.
FTFY

>> No.5447079

>>5447058
IKR they don't even have a message box when you pick up something from cutting grass

>> No.5447085

>>5446924
>Implies there's a better Zelda than Link
s Awakening
>on the Internet>>5447052

>> No.5447086

>>5447079

>Wow! This looks pretty heavy! You won't be able to lift it with just your bare hands...

>> No.5447109

https://youtu.be/5K4RR12EUhs
https://youtu.be/snhK3z6IAKw
https://youtu.be/0M828fvIoho

I like a lot of ages music more than seasons

>> No.5447115

Are there any good rom hacks for LA or OoA/OoS?

>> No.5447141

>>5446924
>games use same engine
>"romhack"
By this logic like half of all games are "romhacks", even retro games
Besides it's made by Capcom instead of R&D1 so more likely it was a new engine just styled after LA

>> No.5447143

>>5447109
The second one is in seasons, when the pirate ship sinks into the sand.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ir-SWzOwqe8

>> No.5447148

>>5447109
I think the ancient tomb was a pretty cool location.
It's off be itself in the map in The Sea of No Return, it's impossible to swim to, you can't even time travel to it as some unexplained force keeps you from traveling. Even the Maku Tree can't tell where the essence is due to this weird force. The outside has that triumphant theme, as if you're treading hallowed ground of warriors as it also hosts dangerous darknuts and lynels. The dungeon itself is naturally the toughest in the game and has a unique pyramidal structure and is crawling with ghost enemies and has a very droning music track, all tying into its tomb name. And there's a whole new layer of intrigue when you realize that it's the same dungeon as the first, Spirit's Grave.

>> No.5447174

>>5447148
>And there's a whole new layer of intrigue when you realize that it's the same dungeon as the first, Spirit's Grave.
Wait what

>> No.5447195

>>5447058
there isnt a single thing link's awakening does that oracle of seasons doesn't do better

>> No.5447212

>>5447000
Other way around anon

>> No.5447219
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>>5446924
>*makes a romhack of DOOM*
here's your new DOOM, bro
Ever heard of an engine, OP?

>> No.5447229

>>5446924
Worried about going back to play this, as a kid I got Ages first and got Seasons after because I liked it so much. And I preferred Ages. Hoping it's still as fun. Nayru is a cute!

>> No.5447235

>>5447174
The two levels are one the same spot on the map in the present and past

>> No.5447294

I played Oracle of the Seasons and Ages, but neither them were as memorable as Link's Awakening.

>> No.5447318

>>5447000
Total opposite, Ages is the only one with any semblance of challenge from the puzzles

>>5447058
This also

>> No.5447425

>>5447318
Linked Hero's Cave was just the best.

>> No.5447485

>>5447219
DmC is a romhack of Borderlands!

>> No.5447501

>>5447195
Doesn't give me as much as a tinkly feeling :)

>> No.5447594

>>5446924
i preferred it to link's awakening, and i like how you had to link the two games in order to beat them

>> No.5447596
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>>5446924
>*makes it look like link's awakening is the roomhack*
here's your new zelda, sis

>> No.5447615

>>5446924

I still cant get through seasons. I start it and do the second dungeon then stop.

>> No.5447661

>>5447086
Just press B if you're not playing the shitty DX version. You're not playing the DX version... Are you, anon?

>> No.5447680

>>5447000

I thought the same. Nice trips tho

>> No.5447693

>>5447318
>muh puzzles
Fuck off with this shit. Nobody cares about "puzzles" in Zelda.

>> No.5447705

>>5447693
Lots of people do, actually... Not everyone is you.

>> No.5447707

>>5447693
You mean half the game?

>> No.5447749

>>5447000
ages is more focused on puzzles while seasons is more focused on dungeon crawling.

>> No.5447819

>>5447749
Would be nice if Ages had GOOD puzzles, though. They're mostly shitty trial and error garbage.

>> No.5447864

>>5447819
Thwomp is a slot machine boss..

>> No.5448017

>>5447000
original plan was for three games, read the wikipedia-article about the games.

>> No.5448023

if I play Seasons first should I just skip ages?

>> No.5448032

>>5448017
Original-original plan was a remake of the first NES Zelda, the assets of which went into the Oracle games (mostly in Seasons).

>> No.5448036

>>5448023
Nah. Play ages first then linked seasons. It completes a plotline from ages.

>> No.5448040

>>5448023
no, besides you should write down all the codes from Seasons, especially the one after beating the game to unlock the linked game for Ages and then just play Ages to get all the secrets in Seasons, cross-references between both games and what not.

>> No.5448049

not that anon, but
>>5448036
>Play ages first then linked seasons
>>5448040
>play seasons first then linked ages
based

>> No.5448083

>>5448036
>>5448040
>>5448049
the problem is i only have the Seasons cart. should I just buy a chink Ages cart on ebay so i can get the full gameplay?

>> No.5448137

>>5448083
Why ask if you have only one game?

>> No.5448319

>>5448137
Thats why I said should I play Seasons and skip Ages, since I dont have Ages.

>> No.5448378

>>5448319
at this point, just emulate both.

>> No.5448382

>>5447058
>It's baffling how much better Oracle of Ages & Seasons is compared to Link's Awakening.
Fixed. Better items, dungeons, puzzles, animal companions, overworld(s)

>> No.5448781

>>5448382
Except that LA has better items, dungeons, puzzles, and overworld.

>> No.5448786

>>5448382
>Better animal companions
Are you trying to talk shit about Kiki, Flying Rooster, and Marin? I'll fucking fight you.

>> No.5448793

>>5448781
There is absolutely no way you could say LA has better items than any of the Oracle games. This post has worked me into a seething shoot, thanks anon.

>> No.5448847

>>5448786
not him but kiki is literally just a gatekeepr for the quest item and marin just follows the player and does nothing else but force you into a story/cutscene segment. the oracle animals are there to actually change the gameplay and help you out

>> No.5448862

>>5448847
This, and the one you choose changes what types of landscape you face (flying vs water vs jumping up cliffs). Only wish these segments were a big longer because there was some great potential there. I would have been fine with one standard animal across both games if it meant the world was suited for it.

>> No.5448880

>>5448847
the animal you choose actually changes the area you need it for. that's quite cool replayability-wise.

>> No.5448968

>>5448023
Yes, Seasons is top tier Zelda and Ages is trash

>> No.5449006

>>5448793
Maybe Minish Cap has better items but not retro

>> No.5449026

>>5449006
Oh I'm not saying there haven't been better items in a Zelda game than oracle, just that LA wasn't one.

Although that is a good question, what Zelda game did have better items? Seasons would probably be the top for me although I never played anything that came out after GBA

>> No.5449028

>>5449026
Every Zelda game has better items than capcom's, but Minish Cap had the best out of those.

>> No.5449054

>>5449028
the magnet glove is one of the best zelda items though. it's literally the hookshot 2.0

>> No.5449059

>>5449028
Examples being? Oracles have
>shooter with 4 different ammos
>two levels of flying capes which is the GOAT item
>power glove
>animal flute
>t2 glove
>game-specific world changing item
I could go on, but I'd be hard pressed to be convinced that there are better items than those.

>> No.5449097

>>5448781
What items? Bow and Arrows? Ocarina? Magic Powder?
lol, I'd rather have the seeds, Roc's Cape, Switch hook and Boomerang lvl 2.
Also comparing each game overworlds makes LA one look bad, both ages and seasons have much more interactivity. Also seasons have an aditional one, Subrosia.

>> No.5449102

>>5449054
>it's literally the hookshot 2.0
It's called the longshot
>not by a long shot
>>5449059
>game-specific world changing item
You mean like in every Zelda game?
>>5449097
Koholint is a literal dream world, just one of the final boss's forms is Ganon with a single letter N.

>> No.5449135

>>5449102
>i'm autistic
i mean it's the hookshot 2.0 in that it substantiates what the hookshot could do already with extra, intuitive mechanics. like not only can you use the magnet glove to pull/push yourself to/from grounded objects, you can also use it to pull and push ungrounded objects towards/away from you. and the game's puzzles stretches what you can do with all of that to its absolute limit. it's an overall MUCH more versatile item than the hookshot ever was or has been since

>> No.5449224

>>5449102
>like every Zelda game?
No? Name some other games that have world changing items outside of LTTP and OoT, I'll wait. Just like I'll still wait on you to give me examples of how LA has better items than the Oracle games.

>> No.5449250

>>5448319
The whole linked story thing is cool to play through so I'd honestly recommend playing both. If you really want to see what a linked game is like you can play seasons again and use a code generator although characters from ages you haven't seen would show up. Either that or emulate ages afterwards, it's all password based so you would be able to transfer over to an emulator despite playing seasons on real hardware.

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>>5447000
>>5447000

>> No.5449587

>>5447864
I hate that boss. My recent play through though, nearly every toss was a hit and I beat him in like a minute. Still hate him because of what you said, and he's so early on.

>> No.5449597

>>5448382
>Better companion pets
This is a shit lie.
If you don't know what you're doing you also get stuck with the shitty fucking bear, for both games if you link. Only the dodongo one is even kind of neat.
Plus they force you to use them through out the games, until you get the roc's cape which is only in seasons for some stupid fucking reason.
Bow-wow in LA easily beats all of the others, but you only get to have him for a limited time.

>> No.5449605

>>5448793
LA has rockets, ala bow + bombs.
But, the Oracle games have a lot of great items, and I really like the Roc's cape. I think I prefer the Pegasus boots to the seeds though. In fact, I kind of hate having all the seeds.

>> No.5449649

I personally thought the magnet gloves were cool

>> No.5449651

>using same engine
>dude nice romhack
So by this logic only 1 game per console generation should be released

>> No.5449654

I would have preferred a LA romhack desu.
Scrolling screens in 2D Zelda were a fucking mistake.

>>5447000
They made it more puzzle focused but failed to make the puzzles fun, they made it more story focused, Zelda has pretty boring stories to begin with but a text heavy story just simply does not work for 2D Zelda, and they padded it out with even more fetch quests between dungeons.
It's not baffling at all.

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>>5446924
How about you make a rom hack that makes seasons+ages=awakening(serkit)?

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>>5449654
>Scrolling screens in 2D Zelda were a fucking mistake.

>> No.5449673

>>5449597
Not him, but I don't know how you can make that argument desu. Unless I'm forgetting something, you use bow-wow to open the dungeon and that's it right? In oracle games it's not hard to unlock more than the bear, they have personality, and you can use them whenever you want to wander the land. How is thay worse than a temp pet who eats people?

>> No.5449687

>>5449665
I don't know how that counts as grasping at straws but how is it not? If the dungeon screens don't scroll, you can see the whole puzzle laid out before you instead of needing to walk to all four corners of the screen to survey the area.
Zelda 1 and Link's Awakening got it right. Scrolling is okay in the overworld ONLY. But in dungeons, that shit should remain stationary... or at least not have such shit dungeon design like the Oracles and DS games.

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>>5449687
why is having to move around a bit to survey the room even a problem? you think you maybe just have a problem with object permanence or something
>Link's Awakening got it right
yeah this glorious one-screen system led to absolute gems of puzzles like pic related

>> No.5449746

>>5449597
>implying any first-time player didn't find ricky first
>implying moosh is a bad companion anyway
dimitri has a neat gimmick but if anything he's the most useless overall really

>> No.5450081

>>5449745
Everytime people complain about this puzzle they also conveniently mention at the time of playing they couldn't read or weren't playing a version of the game with their native language

>> No.5450267

>>5447000
Its weird how oos has no story just beat le bad guy whereas ooa has more story elements such as infiltrating the castle etc. It's as if they gave seasons all the fun gameplay and ages the story

>> No.5450270

>>5449746
>>implying any first-time player didn't find ricky first
I played Ages for the first time recently and got Moosh, then reloaded my save and bought the flute from the shop and got Dimitri. I still have no idea how to even get Ricky.

>> No.5450395

>>5450267
Yeah that's how the games are generally perceived - ages has better story, seasons better game play. One of my favorite things about Ages as a kid was seeing the tower get built over time and when it got finished you genuinely felt like you were fucked.

>> No.5450476

>>5450270
Can't you just find one permanently?

>>5449224
The items you get are better, it's just missing an ice staff and more uses for the book.

Ocarina, Baton, Flute, Wolf link & Dark world, The air, The sea, The minish cap, even Breath of the Wild which I loathe gives you several powers with the sheikah plate. These are world transforming and the games largely center on their existence.

>>5449587
I kept missing and it was bullshit.
>>5449605
And LA has rockets, which are used by engaging two items simultaneously

>>5449649
Of course they're cool and should have come back but instead we got the sheikah plate..

>>5450267
Big bad is coming and he's also a dragon, it's pretty much Skyrim on gameboy...

>> No.5450580

>>5450476
>Can't you just find one permanently?
Yes. You meet each of them once, then at a certain point of the game you'll meet one a second time and they'll be with you the rest of the game. If you buy the flute from the store you'll get Dimitri, if you do nothing at all you'll get Moosh. I got Moosh the first time and then reloaded my save because fuck that stupid bear, Dimitri is way cooler. But I have no idea what you do to obtain Ricky. Moosh is the default so I don't know why the other anon suggested that Ricky is the most likely option for a first timer to get.

>> No.5450619

>>5450476
>the items you get are better
Wow, can't argue with that explanation, thanks anon.

>> No.5450626

>>5450580
It's been a little bit since I did the Ricky route, but iirc he's somewhere kinda near the beach and he asks you to find his gloves. You dig up gloves on beach, give them to him and you get the flute. Pretty fun little quest.

>> No.5450672

>yfw your 3 2D Zelda games are unironically LA, Ages and Seasons
It's like debating which of Da Vinci's pictures is the greatest.

>> No.5450687

>>5450081
If you couldn't read by the time LA came out, you need to leave here.

>> No.5450727
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If you want a real romhack then look no further than this senpai

>> No.5450764

>>5449673
I don't generally like the sprites for mooshu and Ricky... Ricky's personality might make up for that a bit.
Those two pets are also a pain in the ass to control
>Bow-wow only for a few seconds
When I first played the game, I didn't have everything memorized, and I took him around for a little while. I had gone through a quest and saved this bad ass chain chomp dog and now me and him were friends and travelled the country side. I agree, the biggest downside is that you couldn't keep him for very long. The flying rooster is very similar in this regard, you literally resurrect him from dead ashes and bones in a secret kryptonite you've actually been passing by the entire game. Again, you don't have him for very long, but he's 1000x more effective than Ricky or Mooshu at going over holes. They even included (semi)flying roosters in Seasons because the mechanic was so great, but those are failures by comparison.

>> No.5450771

>>5449746
I won't imply then. Moosh sucks. He's a whiny ass bear with shitty little wing and loses me hearts.

>> No.5450916

>>5450626
I did that and he let me get to Tingle, but he didn't give me a flute for it. And I did meet him before I got Dimitri's flute. Maybe there's some other factor for whether Ricky gives you his flute?

>> No.5450937

>>5450916
https://zelda.fandom.com/wiki/Ricky%27s_Flute

Never mind, I was slightly wrong on how to get it and forgot it's different for each game. A little pain in the ass, but fun to figure out if you're inclined.

>> No.5450954

>>5450937
That's interesting, so I guess Ricky is the default in Seasons like Moosh is in Ages.

>> No.5450981

>>5447115
I'd settle just to know where to get the roms in the first place these days

>> No.5451027

>>5450981
Reddits piracy mega thread has DDL links, literally googling "reddit emulation Nintendo roms" will provide you with links. It's just as easy to download roms now as if was before if you Google, I'd link but on mobile right now.

>> No.5451036

>>5450981
archive.org
You can download entire sets or individual files inside of the .zip file.

>> No.5451047

>>5450727
Must be a master hacker, because nobody can seem to figure out how to hack following pokemon into any of the games that didn't already have them.

>> No.5451049

>>5450081
I could read, I just didn't know what the fuck a Pols Voice, Stalfos, or Keese were.

>> No.5451067

>>5451049
Did you know what it meant for something to be imprisoned? Because after that there's only two possible combinations.

>> No.5451070

>>5450981
archive.org
search "no-intro complete"
You're welcome.

>> No.5451161

>>5450672
Why do you think they're better than A Link to the Past?

>> No.5451184

>>5450081
>implying that's even the problem and not that the puzzle requires being told how to solve it to solve it
it's the worst possible puzzle design

>> No.5451208

>>5449605
the pegasus boots were such a sloppy addition to link's awakening. it feels tedious and borderline useless in a game where every area is only a screen large. they just randomly inserted it in because it was in lttp without any thought as to why lttp had it to begin with. it's why they had to invent that contrived crystal thing you had to break with it since it isn't actually useful otherwise. just the general, multiple-screen-lasting speed boost you get from the seeds is much better from a design standpoint

>> No.5451334

>>5450954
I got Moosh in my recent play through and I did Seasons first. I don't like Moosh all that much, though I wouldn't mind him if he were just an NPC and/or if you could call on all three animal friends with the flute (why not?)
>>5451049
>>5451067
I believe I figured it out because it was the last room the compass dinged to, so the hint had to involve it somehow, then I fucked around till the cheat showed up.
This was at about age 5, and I knew what imprisoned meant, but I didn't understand how that applied to the puzzle. I spent a lot of time playing that game imagining alternative solutions to many of the tasks set forth in the game--for example, I imagined to get the dungeon 7 key, I would need an item that teleports you to the torches, much like how the hookshot works... Dumb, but I hadn't gotten to the flying rooster yet, and that seemed the only likely solution to that puzzle.
>>5451208
I don't think these are unfair points, but I prefer using an actual item in a game that uses A and B like that--I also dislike timed use items, and I think the Oracle games have too many items with the seed stuff. It isn't a terrible issue, and this is more of a nitpick and preference thing I have about the games; I'm also biased towards LA as it was the first Zelda game I played all the way through--I had seen LoZ for NES before and thought that was great.

>> No.5451453

>>5450981
https://the-eye.eu/public/rom/

>> No.5451795

>>5451334
I always go for Dimitri, as he lets me access some good Gasha spots early (as in before getting the Flippers). If anything, he's really the only pet who has some utility outside of the single area in the game where one is needed.

>> No.5452145

>>5447693
Gonna assume you're one of those blokes who likes Zelda 1 for its overworld and wanted every other Zelda to be like that.

>> No.5452605

>>5451208
Rocs feather with pegasus boots was another good item combo.

>> No.5452646

>>5452605
swift seeds and roc's feather/cape is a much better item combo and allows for much more options since you're not funneled down in one direction

>> No.5452671

>walking across screens in Seasons doing 360 cape spins
beyond satisfying as a kid

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The fishing minigame was also pretty dope, for a heart piece.

>> No.5452752

>>5447501
Personal opinion with no facts, but I can respect it. Everyone catches feelings from certain games

>> No.5452756

>>5447000
It's not worse. It's just puzzles aren't your thing and you're more action oriented and that's not a bad thing.

>> No.5452765

>>5449745
Did people seriously get caught on the pushing a block puzzle? It's in 2D EVERY Zelda game. It's often one of the first damn things you deal with. I hope I'm forgetting the puzzle or something because otherwise this is as pathetic as it gets

>> No.5452778

>>5452765
>I hope I'm forgetting the puzzle
You are. rude post tbqh

>> No.5452885

>>5452765
uh pushing the block isn't the puzzle

you probably don't remember the actual puzzle there because it's one of the dumbest and most contrived in all of zelda

>> No.5452892

>>5449746
>neat
Kill yourself.

>> No.5452905

>>5452892
neat

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>>5449135
Another good one was the switching hookshot
>>5449224
LA's items are the most versatile and can provide for a world being based around them.
>>5450619
The items in LA are staples in the franchise and the world design tends to cater to their presence ceaselessly.
>>5450580
>>5450937
The pets are a neat part of those gems.
>>5451161
They're more streamlined and focused for one. Their ascetic can be much more pleasing tbph. The bosses are more fun and less tedious. The background lore is deeper in all actuality, with the former being '2d OoT' and the game boy titles being appealing standalone pocket sized adventures..
>>5451334
The seeds were a good way to compact a few abilities imo, but the boots, and combos felt more wholesome and less bag of holding..
>>5452646
Cape of course is best in Minish Cap.. Capcom should make another Zelda.. a 3D Zelda...
>>5452703
Yes.>>5452756
More Zelda.

>> No.5453581

>>5447058
True. I remember LA in intricate detail while the oracle games are a complete blank even though I played the latter more recently.

>> No.5453598

>>5453581
People naturally form stronger memories at younger ages.

>> No.5453690

>>5447864
>>5449587
It's a toss up between him or the smoke cloud that's a boss fight that's literally block pushing as worst Zelda bosses of all time.

>> No.5453731

>>5453690
Cloud for me by a little bit, because that boss is just a puzzle which goes against how every boss battle before has ever been. Forgivable given how great the game is, but kinda fucking annoying.

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>>5453731
>>5453690
I must be a brainlet, because OoA cloud dude was the only boss from the game I didn't have to use a guide to see how to hurt.
I know literally every boss was weak to the dungeon item, but sometimes it was obtuse as hell of when and how you use it.
Plasmire was really egregarious example, because I could hurt him sometimes without even using the switchook

>> No.5453752

>>5452671
Explain?
I've been playing seasons recently and I do enjoy the cape, but don't know what you mean by spins?
Can somebody just romhack LA to add items from other games?

>> No.5453758

>>5452765
The puzzle was killing the three enemies in order. Stalfos last.
The problem with the puzzle is that even the book that came with the game didn't have the names of the enemies. The imprisoned part is the best hint, and last tells you there's a specific order. The hint feels super vague if you've never encountered it before--I wonder what the second hint was in the DC version.

>> No.5453768

>>5453746
No one is confused about how to hurt it, just the stupid trial and error required for the exact placement of the square to link the clouds. They just go all over if you mess it up and you'll have to restart, it's more annoying than anything really.

>> No.5453772

>>5453752
Ah it's just a joke, I mean like jumping and fiddling the dpad so you turn mid air. That, and idk how the set up works but you can manage to flip and go backwards while still looking forward sometimes. No idea why it's so fun but it's the little things I guess when playing old games.

>> No.5453851

>>5453772
Ah okay. Totally agree then!
I was afraid I might have been missing out on something for a moment there.
I was surprised I liked the roc's cape so much when I found it, because I jumped around with the feather so much in LA--it was my goto fun, efficient method for moving around the map, and the item with the sword I most had in a slot.

>> No.5453898

>>5450727
i had this one as a kid, it sucked. i wish i had red or blue instead.

>> No.5454462
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>>5453898
You got all three starters in that one

>> No.5454545

>>5447056
I didn't even know Subrosian Dance was a thing on my first playthrough.

>> No.5454590

>>5454545
Isn't it a literal requirement to progress?

>> No.5454675

>>5452985
Shit taste

>> No.5454697

>>5454675
I'm sorry, that must suck.

>> No.5454875

>>5454590
Nope. Everything you would need the boomerang for before you get the magic boomerang can be solved by bombs or slingshot.

>> No.5455152

>>5454875
Ah didn't read the Subrosian part, yeah its optional you're correct.

Fun world, going on dates was kino.

>> No.5455416

>>5454462
having to deal with bitcrushed pikachu sample for the early game is what really sucks about it

>> No.5455437

>>5454462
>You got all three starters in that one
That doesn't make it good. Red and Blue were better because they weren't anime trash like Yellow.

>> No.5456462

Problem? Worked miracles for Majora's Mask.

>> No.5456574
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>> No.5457095

>>5456574
for how little he was able to display character-wise, i always loved how he'd start using din as a shield once you started getting his health down. was a really natural way to convey how bastardy and despicable he is to the player

>> No.5457515

>>5457095
Onox is such a throwaway character, but then he turns into a fucking dragon.
The whole bossfight is really good, really.


Wait a minute, that image.
...why does Onox's armour have the Gerudo symbol on it?

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>>5457515
And why does Veran look like she has the Sheikah symbol on her outfit?

>> No.5457709

>>5457515
Yeah it really was weird how prominent Veran was in Ages and in Seasons he just doesn't do much (along with the whole story I guess.) really too bad they did nothing else with it, o well

>> No.5457727

>>5447661
Even if they are, there's a patch that removes those messages.

>> No.5458230

>>5455437
you can bench pikachu after misty and pay on like its red or blue, are u retarded? (rhetorical question, you obv are retarded)

>> No.5458359

>>5458230
Having to play all the way through the second gym means the entire first quarter of the game is different. And putting away Pikachu doesn't remove Jessie and James or any of the other anime-based changes introduced to the game. It's still anime trash, Red and Blue are superior.

>> No.5459556

>>5451047
Well shocknigger has an excellent implementation but refuses to share his code, despite his entire project being based on open source projects.

>> No.5459561
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>"makes a romhack of oot"
here's your new zelda, bro

>> No.5460084

Where is the LA romhack that adds in the items from Twilight Princess?

>> No.5461026

>>5460084
???

>> No.5461438

>>5446924
No worse than the FIFA games. Or Mario Galaxy 2.

>> No.5461519

>>5451027
>reddit
And that's why nobody would do it

Just download NoIntro sets torrent from Archive.org

>> No.5461539

>>5461519
They are rarely updated. Smokemonster's Everdrive page in epforums has the latest dumps.

My father has been in prison for murder since 1998. Is he gay yet?

>> No.5461602

>>5457515
>...why does Onox's armour have the Gerudo symbol on it?
>not knowing the linked game

Twinrova summoned him. that's why. he looks like an iron prince from OoT too.

>>5457648
that's not a sheikah symbol. that's some random eye that looks a bit similar. she also has gerudo shit on her shoulders.

>> No.5464343

>>5447485
>NG3 is a romhack of Other M

>> No.5464357

>>5457515
>>5457648
they're Twinrova goons
that's why they have Gerudo shit on them

>> No.5464361

>>5457515
Why do his armpits have Majora's eyes, is what I'm worried about

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>>5457515
>...why does Onox's armour have the Gerudo symbol on it?
It doesn't.

>> No.5464425

>>5461519
Reddit just has a general collection of links for people who don't know how to Google, which is clear since people don't know how to use the archive. And still, the archive isn't complete and is missing things.

>> No.5464496

>>5464389
That's the pre censor sigil, doofus

>> No.5464501

>>5457515
Here's a theory. Onox is the current gerudo king. Veran is a twili witch

>> No.5465018

>>5447229
It's alright. I've been playing through Seasons, and it's still pretty fun.... I wouldn't say it's as good as Link's Awakening but that's probably the nostalgia talking.

>>5456574
he looks vaguely like a Megaman X villain, I bet he's Sigma in disguise or something

>> No.5466075

>>5464496
It's the only one I recognize. Fuck that googly eyed ninja turtle silhouette bullshit.

>> No.5467109

>>5446924
That's not a picture of Zelda and the Stone Tablets OP

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>>5457648
>>5464501
I also believe the theory that Veran is a Twili and the Twili are the ancient tribe that created Majora's Mask. Midna looks a lot like Veran. The Fused Shadow resembles Majora's Mask.

>> No.5468196

Ages was better than Seasons. Prove me wrong.

>> No.5468221

>>5468196
The excessive cutscenes are a complete drag because the story isn't interesting
the time travel gimmick was done better in two far superior Zelda games before it
the puzzles are downright tedious with some rotten mechanics like the blocks you need to jump on to switch

it's just >opinions but Ages is such a slog that embodies the worst of post-SNES Zelda, while Seasons feels like a throwback to the early games while still doing plenty of fresh things and having a unique gimmick

>> No.5468309

>>5468190
Twili didn't exist yet when Veran was introduced. I prefer the idea that she was an ex-Sheikah who dabbled too far into forbidden magic and got exiled before joining the Gerudo.

>> No.5468330

>>5468221
>the puzzles are downright tedious with some rotten mechanics like the blocks you need to jump on to switch
The puzzles in Ages are literally the only redeeming quality of either of these games. The Seasons and Ages mechanics are both so forced and poorly executed, the overworld of both games is a linear yet, still, convoluted mess that is constantly forcing the player to go three screens to the left, two screens down, three screens to the right and one screen up just to get to an area one screen down from where you originally were, there's no real exploration in either game, the games offer almost no challenge EXCEPT for the puzzles in Ages, that's the only thing these games are worth playing for.

>> No.5468409

>>5468330
the rings are the best optional reward in any zelda game and you can only find them via exploration. pretty much nothing you said about the overworld applies to seasons at all anyway. you say it has no exploration when you just called the seasons-switching mechanic contrived when literally its entire purpose is to encourage exploration via experimentation with what the different seasons change

>> No.5468567

>>5468409
The rings suck if you're not autistic.

>> No.5468594

>>5468409
>you can only find them via exploration

You get most of them from the gatcha seeds, and the ones you find in chests are usually something you already have.

>> No.5469370

>>5468567
they add some novelty and were ahead of their time. i dont see what the game lost having them in. they weren't amazing but they were still one of the coolest collectables in any 2d zelda games. certainly a better reward for exploration than more rupees like in most other zelda games
>>5468594
no? the ones you find in chests are almost always exclusive to that chest. also a lot of gacha soil patches are found via exploration and they're always the ones that give you rarer rings

>> No.5469398

>>5446924
Say what you want, the oracle games are still among the highest tier of zelda games.

I consider them a package, to be played back to back or together. And together they have some of the best dungeons/exploration/bosses/items in the franchise.

>> No.5469410
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>>5469370
Seasons Master Race ?

>> No.5469413

>>5469410
yes. best 2d zelda next to link to the past

>> No.5469418

>>5469413
Holy mackerel the delusions

>> No.5469425

>>5469418
if at least lttp isn't one of your favorites zeldas, you have absolute degenerate taste in zelda and probably think wind waker and twilight princess are good games

>> No.5469427

>>5469418
Yeah, how does he classify LA lower than those two ?! While asserting Seasons is The Best™

>> No.5469430

>>5469427
because link's awakening is an inferior oos with plenty of tedium and weird design choices. it's a good zelda but i wouldn't put it in my top 2 certainly

>> No.5469470

>>5469425
Those are the best Zeldas...
>>5469430
You have it backwards, OoS is all about taking what LA was about, and coloring it.

>> No.5469480

>>5469470
>Those are the best Zeldas...
like clockwork. what are you even doing here if you have no respect for retro zelda? no wonder you're so obsessed with link's awakening considering its affinity for superficial shit like cutscenes and waifus
>You have it backwards, OoS is all about taking what LA was about, and coloring it.
..no? link's awakening is a sloppy amalgamation of lttp's mechanics with everything added being ultimately pointless shit that muddles and pads the experience, whilst oos is moreso a reimagining of zelda 1 that stretches the fundamental design of 2d zelda to its limits. you sound like you're just butthurt it uses la's artstyle

>> No.5470064

>>5469480
Which shovel is better to use: LA or LttP?

>> No.5470068

>>5470064
neither. oos was the first 2d zelda with a shovel that functioned properly

though if i had to pick, i'd go with la's because it's slightly more functional

>> No.5470157

>>5468309
>>5468190
It'd probably be more appropriate to guess that Veran's design inspired midna

>> No.5470220

>>5469480
>old games=best games
>&&you sound like you're just butthurt it uses la's artstyle

>>5470064
>>5470068
The Shovel™

>Digging Grave

>> No.5470249

>>5470068
What are you referring to by functionality difference between LA and OoS?
They're both satisfying in the way they're animated and the plop sound they make while digging, and you can dig vertically, unlike the ugly trash in LttP.

>> No.5470252

>>5470220
...what?

you know there are better uses for your pcp high than shitposting on /vr/

>> No.5470256

>>5470249
iirc link's awakening had some hitbox weirdness where the game would think you weren't digging in a diggable spot when you were that was fixed in oos. but yeah, they're both much better than lttp's. i think even the devs knew since the ocarina immediately replaces it once you find it