/vr/ - Retro Games

[Anonymous No.5441570]

great game, shitty coverart. lets go /vr/

[Anonymous No.5441575]

You start.

[Anonymous No.5441606]

Don't play that Euro version, the soundtrack was botched and it runs at 50hz

[Anonymous No.5441619]

>>5441570
*pulls out dagger*
Guess if you want things done you gotta do it yourself...
*slices your stomach open*
*pulls out your intestines and chokes you to death with them*
*decapitates you for good measure because you're an annoying faggot who won't fuck off*
*throws your body in the sewer*
A fitting end to your shit life.

[Anonymous No.5441635]

>>5441570

[Anonymous No.5441663]

>NES games
>in 1992
>when the SNES, MD, and even PC-E have long buried that console
>game sells like shit

What a surprise.

[Anonymous No.5441685]

[Anonymous No.5441695]

>>5441685
That cover screams kusoge, which is a shame because people who have played Suikoden consistently claim it's a great JRPG.

[Anonymous No.5441798]

[Anonymous No.5441887]

>>5441570
>>5441635

[Anonymous No.5441893]

>>5441663
A lot of people were still playing NES at that point.

[Anonymous No.5441952]

>>5441695
They're wrong, it's very generic

[Anonymous No.5441987]

Officially it is claimed that Sunsoft considered Mr. Gimmick too strange for American tastes, but it's more likely that NOA rejected the game for a US release as it was too similar to Kirby's Adventure, then in development.

[Anonymous No.5442002]

>>5441987
The game came out in Japan in early 92, if anything Kirby probably stole from it.

[Anonymous No.5442005]

It's kind of like the unreleased NES SimCity. Most likely Nintendo didn't want it stealing sales from the SNES SimCity.

[Anonymous No.5442025]

>>5441952
It's good not great. It's not so generic that it doesn't add its own twist to the genre in having your own castle from which you warp around the world and having 108 characters to recruit (most of them just being palette changes, but some being pretty sweet finds,) there are hundreds of generic RPGs, this is one at least is a bit of a different experience.

[Anonymous No.5442049]

>>5441893
Yep, its what my family had until we got a snes in 1994

[Anonymous No.5442054]

>>5441619
Holy shit......BASED!

[Anonymous No.5442060]

>>5442054
Nah it was 4/10 at best

[Anonymous No.5442341]

>>5441570
I love the shitness because it enhances the inconspicuity. Also, Mr. Gimmick is definitely the superior title for a similar reason.

[Anonymous No.5442376]

>>5442341
Gimmick in Japanese is the buzzword name they give to little land marks or unique elements of the stages that only show up once. It has the opposite connotation of gimmick as it's used in English, usually denoting an uninteresting, underused and underdeveloped game mechanic

[Anonymous No.5442393]

>>5441570
I know it's the American cover but...

[Anonymous No.5442410]

>>5441570

[Anonymous No.5442415]

>>5441685
The game looked Japanese but they were afraid to make the cover art look Japanese. Pathetic.

[Anonymous No.5442416]

>>5442410
It's a Choro Q game.

Bonus: The back cover says "SURRENDER IS NO OPTION. But, in the game, when you pause it, surrender is literally an option.

[Anonymous No.5442417]

>>5442393
I choose to believe that is what the game's graphics are trying to pull off.

[Anonymous No.5442750]

>>5442393
How could they accept it? It looks like it was drawn by a ten year old with a brain damage.

[Anonymous No.5442758]

>>5441685
>literally me on the top left.

[Anonymous No.5442762]

>>5442750
Because the localization was rushed as hell. They literally decided to do it after the first Japanese shipment in mid-December, and hurried to still get the American version out in time for the holidays.

[Anonymous No.5442764]

One of my favorite shooters.

[Anonymous No.5442772]

>>5442764
Also, Mobile Light Force 2 is somehow not Gunbird 2. I don’t understand. I feel like someone should have interviewed the staff, got into their heads and figured out what happened.

Like the eternal mystery of who that chubby balding man on the cover of Columns 3 is, how was he chosen? Who was the manager at the time that said “Looks good! Send it to the printer.”?

[Anonymous No.5442919]

>>5441619
Gay.

>>5441887
Aside from the goofy hair on the dude, that Azure Dreams one has a pretty good cover.

[Anonymous No.5442963]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pDsZUifb3h8

Armadillo was another platformer they had toyed with the idea of a US release but ultimately never happened. Probably because it's too much like SMB3/SMW.

[Anonymous No.5442974]

Funny since MC Kids got away with some fairly obvious Mario theft.

[Anonymous No.5443069]

>>5441606
Soul
>>5441570
Soulless

>>5441635
I bought this game based on the cover and back of the case alone. Anime wasn't as mainstream back then so this art style really caught my eye. The first anime I had saw (other than speed racer or dragonball z was in around 1995 on cartoon network. They had a late night show called "Japanimation" or something similar. I would have been 15 at the time. I remember watching robot carnival and thought it was really cool. When I saw Musashi a few years later, I bought it at full price, didn't even wait for "greatest hits."

>>5441798
To be fair, if you had played SF1, this was an instabuy. Also, I recall it being heavily featured in game magazines of the time. Still kind of shitty cover art, but it gives me nostalgia.

[Anonymous No.5443946]

>>5442002
Shigeru Miyamoto called it a "masterpiece", and Masahiro Sakurai commented that the game influenced the direction of Kirby (admitting the inspiration)

Source: http://news.livedoor.com/article/detail/5795528/

[Anonymous No.5444178]

>>5442762
The US release of MM1 was just four days after the Japanese one.

[Anonymous No.5444183]

>>5443946
Yes. That lends credence to the idea that NOA didn't want Mr. Gimmick released here because it would have upstaged Kirby's Adventure.

>>5442963
Armadillo isn't as good of a game as Mr. Gimmick; short levels with not a huge amount of content, but it is also quite Kirby-like and Nintendo probably also stole some ideas from it.

[Anonymous No.5444212]

http://nintendoage.com/forum/messageview.cfm?catid=35&threadid=150779

There's quite a few cancelled North American NES releases. With at least some of these, we can take a guess why they got the axe. For example, SimCity is presumed to have not been released to avoid competing with the SNES SimCity.

Napoleon Senki probably didn't get released because it used a weird Irem cartridge banking scheme consisting of four TTLs (the cartridge used both CHR RAM and ROM) and this would have cost too much to certify for use in NES cartridges, which is the main reason why third party mappers weren't used in NES cartridges other than Batman Returns.

Final Fantasy II was obviously cancelled due to the cost of the bigger ROMs needed for English dialog, which is also why FF3 never made it here.

California Raisins I have absolutely no idea.

[Anonymous No.5444223]

>>5444212
>California Raisins I have absolutely no idea.
Cancelled because the CR fad had run its course by 1990 and projected game sales were low. Robocop vs Terminator was cancelled to avoid stealing sales from the SNES version.

[Anonymous No.5444230]

>>5444223
>Robocop vs Terminator was cancelled to avoid stealing sales from the SNES version.

This was made by Virgin and the project supervisor was the guy who handled MC Kids. He said that Virgin had dropped NES support by 1993 and the game was also made by an inexperienced team and didn't come out very well.

[Anonymous No.5444236]

>>5444212
Titan Warriors is a big mystery, never released anywhere, despite being apparently also developed as Neo Vulgus for Japan.

[Anonymous No.5444250]

>>5444212
Thomas The Tank Engine, again a 1993 release, THQ had probably stopped supporting the NES, and they already had it out for the SNES.

[Anonymous No.5444268]

>>5444236
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xSYMFsshAdY

It doesn't seem like all that compelling of a game and the programming is a little sloppy. Capcom's shmups were always a bit underwhelming compared with Konami's.

[Anonymous No.5444301]

>>5441635

At least they used official artwork, even if it was cut and paste. Much better than what they did for Final Fantasy III (VI).

[Anonymous No.5445150]

>>5444178
Bullshit, Wikipedia's wrong because some assholes keep adding an unsourced date. All we know is it came afterwards in the same month.

[Anonymous No.5445173]

>>5445150
Relevant portion here, this info is true. I can believe they did it within two weeks given the infamy, but roughly half a week? No way.

[Anonymous No.5445267]

>>5445173
I guess a lot hinges on what they meant by Japan receiving limited quantities. Perhaps they had the game nearly done, sent prototype carts out to retailers to demo and gauge interest when deciding on initial production runs, and found indications that it was going to be a hit, prompting the start on an American localization. I don't know what production lead times were back then, but I would have to imagine that the development of the US version had to have started before the JP retail release if both were released the same month.

[Anonymous No.5445276]

>>5445267
They didn't really change anything with the US MM1 other than the title screen and copyright notices, but it would still take a couple of months to get a production run of cartridges made and shipped.

[Anonymous No.5445291]

>>5445267
>Perhaps they had the game nearly done, sent prototype carts out to retailers to demo and gauge interest when deciding on initial production runs, and found indications that it was going to be a hit, prompting the start on an American localization
Ironically, MM1 was not a hit either in the US or Japan and ended up on the bargain rack in stores within three months. Kitamura had to convince reluctant Capcom execs to approve a sequel.

[Anonymous No.5445304]

>>5445276
Capcom U.S.A. could have still had leftover cartridges, or the release of Mega Man took the place of another game at the last minute.
Is this another "unconfirmed Super Mario Bros. NA release" situation?

[Anonymous No.5445490]

>>5442393
Meanwhile the EU cover looks like a Protomen album.

[Anonymous No.5445507]

>>5445490
I like how Wily has more of a sad, contemplative look rather than a maniacal evil genius cackle or something.

[Anonymous No.5445534]

>>5445490
I always loved this cover, it looks like some old kickass movie poster.

[Anonymous No.5445595]

all ntsc ps1 covers

[Anonymous No.5445602]

>>5445595
cloud is fighting a giant robot or something, what ever

[Anonymous No.5445807]

>>5445602
I thought it was supposed to be a tower like RPG World's version.

[Anonymous No.5445875]

>>5441570
Today is opposite day. Dope art, meh game.

[Anonymous No.5445878]

>>5445602
You sure that's not a Shinra plant?

[Anonymous No.5445884]

>>5445490
Now this is badass

[Anonymous No.5445886]

>>5445490
Why couldn't more western art be westernized in a way that still fits with the in-game art? cant be THAT hard but this is the only one i've seen that works. Shame

[Anonymous No.5445898]

>>5445490
It's arguable the best box art for the game (outside Rockman Complete Works), but it's ruined by the disembodied arm behind the logo. WTF is that? Bomb Man? Trying to punch Mega Man in the robo-nuts?

[Anonymous No.5445917]

>>5441619
You have to go back, tourist.