Emulators used to be better?

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Emulators used to be better? Anonymous Tue Mar 12 16:37:56 2019 No.5431598 [Reply] [Original]

Hi guys,
I remember in the early 2000 I used emulators a lot more, especially N64 emulators. I remember them being accurate and functioning well.
Now I see a lot of problems with emulators. I wonder if something changed or if it's just bad memory, and emulators used to be shit and I just didn't notice being a young teen and all.

Thanks

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 12 16:41:38 2019 No.5431607 >>5431598 The later. They are a lot better now and with more features than before. I used to remember Nesticle being "fine" until I revisited it later and it's a fucking abomination.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 12 16:50:25 2019 No.5431630 Yeah no, emulators got so much better since then. You were probably just using lower latency peripherals back then, like a crt screen and wired mouse/keyboard or controller. Not to mention the crt probably made the graphics look a lot better.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 12 16:57:07 2019 No.5431645 >>5431630 >>5431607 I remember playing mostly on a laptop, so in the end it must be a matter of perspective. Thanks for answering my question.

Anonymous Tue Mar 12 17:03:42 2019 No.5431669

>>5431630
>Yeah no, emulators got so much better since then.
Gonna play devil's advocate here: The underlying platforms have gotten better, certain emulators have improved a lot, but the majority were just abandoned, replaced by worse shit, and/or no longer function properly on modern platforms.
Actually I even take back what I said about "platforms" "getting better." That's not entirely true. Android is a garbage fire worse than any other trash OS that ever existed.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 12 17:28:47 2019 No.5431728 OP is a ZSNES shill

Anonymous Tue Mar 12 17:41:45 2019 No.5431764

>>5431598
I had the same impression. I used emulators a lot back in high school (early 2000s) and remember them playing just fine. These days I can feel every millisecond of latency when emulating SMW. Fortunately, run-ahead has fixed that for machines with the processing power to do it.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 12 17:42:02 2019 No.5431765 >>5431728 But didn't they take netplay away from znes in newer versions?

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 12 17:43:23 2019 No.5431769 >>5431598 >N64 emulators Ok the graphics cards, particularly the voodoo models can do N64 better than anything even right now.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 12 19:54:25 2019 No.5432098 >>5431598 You're just remembering wrong. Probably because you were a baby.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 12 19:56:42 2019 No.5432105 >>5432098 t. Nintendo

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 12 20:12:05 2019 No.5432160 >>5431607 I remember Nesticle being relatively shitty back in the day too. I had a sprite comic in the early 2000s and I only ever used it because it was capable of turning off layers for sprite & background capture. For actual play I used FCE Ultra.

Anonymous Tue Mar 12 20:22:36 2019 No.5432192

>>5432160
I don't think FCEU existed back then. Or, at least, it wasn't widely known. I didn't know what I was doing to be honest, I just checked Zophar's Domain or something and got that out of there.
I do remember a few games were kinda glitchy but I used to think it was a "bad ROM" or something.

Anonymous Tue Mar 12 20:44:34 2019 No.5432243

>>5431598
N64... who gives a shit. But other systems that have games with actual replay value have emulators that are very good now. But i think it also depends on the OS. My mame cab is running winXP and my snespc is running Win7. Each of those OSs have good emulators. And im sure good linux counterparts exist as well

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 12 20:50:23 2019 No.5432257 >>5432192 >I don't think FCEU existed back then. I know it existed in 2005. Wtf is all this FCEUX shit...2008 wtf? That cannot be right.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 12 20:52:00 2019 No.5432261 >>5432257 Ah I'm talking a bit before that, like 1999 or so.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 12 20:58:01 2019 No.5432276 >>5432261 Ok, but for some reason the Internet says an emulator that I had used since late 2004 didn't exist until August of 2008. I still have FCEU downloaded to an old computer and the file proves I added that one in 2006. WTF?

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 12 21:00:28 2019 No.5432283 >>5432276 The internet can often have inaccurate information.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 12 21:00:29 2019 No.5432284 OK n/m tracked it down. Confused it with a fork. Thanks for making me review it, though. Been emulating since 2004, heh.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 12 21:00:45 2019 No.5432285 >>5432276 Maybe you used plain FCE instead? FCEU and then FCEUX are forks of it.

Anonymous Tue Mar 12 21:02:08 2019 No.5432287

>>5431598
There's a moderate mixture
On the one hand, emulators of the past were hacky, buggy shit.
On the other hand, although accuracy has improved I would say the user experience of modern emulation is worse. If I want to play a SNES game on Snes9X, I'm up and away in 15 seconds. If I want to play one on Retroarch, first I've got to go through the rigmarole of setting that up, using their generally dire user interface with more menus than the average restaurant. If you're a power-user that does add more features, and in terms of accuracy to the original system and game compatibility the retroarch cores are much better, but the out of the box experience is garbage.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 12 21:03:29 2019 No.5432293 >>5432283 That's the truth regardless. / I still remember when I realized in mid to late 2004 that I could play any Nintendo game, or arcade game (within reason). It blew my mind.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 12 21:04:50 2019 No.5432295 >>5432285 >>5432293 Crap I read your post wrong. Yeah FCEU already existed at that time.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 12 21:04:59 2019 No.5432296 >>5432285 That is exactly what happened. Will try to delete the old post.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 12 21:06:03 2019 No.5432298 >>5432295 >Crap I read your post wrong. You were still right. The Internet is full of crap as well having a lot of truth.

Anonymous Tue Mar 12 21:09:16 2019 No.5432303

>>5432298
Yeah you gotta sift through a lot of shit to get to the accurate stuff.
Man, years from now, when people like us that were around at the time are gone, people is gonna have a hard time finding hard facts, despite all the information around.
"The internet never forgets", my ass.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 12 21:11:21 2019 No.5432306 >>5432303 >people is gonna have a hard time finding hard facts, despite all the information around. >"The internet never forgets", my ass. >is gonna Indeed. ;)

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 12 21:12:15 2019 No.5432310 >>5431598 youre not running on windows xp anymore, buddy.

Anonymous Tue Mar 12 21:12:31 2019 No.5432313

>>5432303
>Man, years from now, when people like us that were around at the time are gone, people is gonna have a hard time finding hard facts, despite all the information around.
>"The internet never forgets", my ass.

Seriously, though, this is a huge problem. If we can't keep video game history straight, are we sure we know the history of the world all that well?

Anonymous Tue Mar 12 21:14:49 2019 No.5432319

>>5432306
I can't English very well, but I thought that was an acceptable contraction. Oh well.

>>5432313
Yeah if something relatively trivial like videogames is so full of inaccuracies I can't imagine how many facts we take for granted are just wrong, specially the further back we go.

Anonymous Tue Mar 12 21:19:50 2019 No.5432329

>>5432319
Oh, well I was being jovial about it anyway, take no offense, please.

>>5432319
>Yeah if something relatively trivial like videogames is so full of inaccuracies I can't imagine how many facts we take for granted are just wrong, specially the further back we go.

Anyone who would try to deny as much is a fool.

Anonymous Tue Mar 12 21:24:00 2019 No.5432335

>>5432329
Wait is "people" meant to be used with plural pronouns? I thought it was singular because it's a collective. Like "flock" or so. Ah well no offense taken, I want to improve my English so I'm curious.

And yeah a lot of people says "preservation is just wanting to play games for free lol :^)" but I find the whole history of videogames as interesting as any other topic.

Anonymous Tue Mar 12 21:30:06 2019 No.5432341

>>5432335
>Wait is "people" meant to be used with plural pronouns?

It can be in special written situations*, but normally and mostly use "are people". Glad to help in a small way.

*that are not coming to my mind.

>>5432335
>And yeah a lot of people says "preservation is just wanting to play games for free lol :^)" but I find the whole history of videogames as interesting as any other topic.

Oh definitely, anon. Like how it's not even possible to emulate arcade games until 1975 because they were all solid state. A lot of those games will probably be lost and the greater video game community, as it were, needs to act to save that era.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 12 21:32:42 2019 No.5432346 File: 66 KB, 719x1000, a pioneering arcade game.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5432341 *people are

Anonymous Tue Mar 12 21:36:31 2019 No.5432353

>>5432287
Exactly. We need more emulators not designed for hyperautists. I mean now that I put in the effort to get RetroArch in working order it's my go-to setup for pretty much everything but NES and GameCube/Wii, but compared to SNES9X's ease of use it's a headache. Even Project 64 was less of a tussle, and you had to configure plugins with that.

Anonymous Tue Mar 12 21:37:07 2019 No.5432357

>>5432341
>It can be in special written situations*, but normally and mostly use "are people". Glad to help in a small way.

Ah that's good to know, thank you.

>Oh definitely, anon. Like how it's not even possible to emulate arcade games until 1975 because they were all solid state. A lot of those games will probably be lost and the greater video game community, as it were, needs to act to save that era.
Yeah I completely agree. Some might argue they "aren't fun" or "why would you want to play that", but they still were precursors that don't quite deserve to just disappear. Even the shittiest games served some purpose, or were part of someone's career, or inspired something else, etc. A bunch of them make their way into museums or so, but even those will give in eventually (specially with how delicate those older ones can get, replace enough components to keep it going and it might be altered in subtle or not-so-subtle ways).

Anonymous Tue Mar 12 21:44:59 2019 No.5432371

>>5432357
>but they still were precursors that don't quite deserve to just disappear.

Yeah, like Atari's 2600 "Adventure" is not engaging today beyond nostalgia if one is honest, but it's still the great-grandfather of Zelda, which spawned others..you can't just for them. As for arcade games purely, I bet almost no one is playing "Pong" or "Computer Space" for real anymore and that's interesting if anything. Even Funspot's Pong game doesn't work last I heard. How many could possibly be working and in operation?

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 12 21:46:31 2019 No.5432373 >>5432371 *can't just forget them. >mfy anon's English is better than mine /Your English is good btw

Anonymous Tue Mar 12 21:57:26 2019 No.5432385

>>5432373
Hah, no worries.
But yeah, on the bright side there seems to be more people getting some interest in the stuff, so maybe (big maybe) things will improve before the trail gets cold. Documentation, emulation, ways to keep hardware going without altering its operation, every little bit counts.

Anonymous Tue Mar 12 21:57:36 2019 No.5432386

>>5432357
>A bunch of them make their way into museums or so, but even those will give in eventually

(Give out) Just helping again since you said it's ok. Not being a jerk. :)

And yeah, even in those museums, how many get to play them? I've seen some shows where they let people line up and play, but it can't be more than a couple minutes for each person. In a sense those games are already lost as originally intended. :|

Anonymous Tue Mar 12 22:00:52 2019 No.5432390

>>5432385
>Documentation, emulation, ways to keep hardware going without altering its operation, every little bit counts.

I truly believe that emulation is the best long term preservation method,(if not just for costs) but the computers that run those emulators will need backing up, so it's imperfect.

I hear that some people are making new Pole Position boards to replace the breakdown-prone original PCBs, but that's another thing unto itself, but I suspect that's where all games are headed. Replacement via emulation or other
"fakery."

Anonymous Tue Mar 12 22:05:15 2019 No.5432402

So sick and tired of this fucking n64 emulators suck meme.

https://m64p.github.io/

(looks like it's behind a paywall now, the last free version is here

http://www.emutalk.net/threads/57250-m64p-download-(2019-01-26)

Doesn't even require an install.

Setup the controller, and then play.

I'll give 1 x 4chan gold to any kind sir that can find a game that won't run perfectly on it.
Pokemon snap, gauntlet legends, mario tennis/golf, star wars rogue+naboo, kirby 64, go your hardest.

Like, seriously, shut the fuck up if you don't know what your talking about.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 12 22:08:18 2019 No.5432408 >>5432402 >(looks like it's behind a paywall now They're making people pay now? LOL fuck them.

Anonymous Tue Mar 12 22:09:00 2019 No.5432409

>>5432386
>Give out
Noted!

>>5432390
Fortunately, current computers are fairly well-documented in terms of architecture, and a lot of emulators are open-source, so we should be able to get them going in the future like we are able to run actual code for a C64. There's stuff like QEMU and such that can help in a few decades.
There are no warranties but should be doable, specially if they keep being updated or forked over time.
It IS going to be a problem for stuff like online games that require closed servers and such, though, since those die as soon as their servers die. I can almost smell the gap forming (and some games are, indeed, already lost. Until someone reverse-engineers the servers or something.)

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 12 22:11:23 2019 No.5432412 >>5432409 >Noted! Yeah, things "give out", people "give in", unless you're being funny or creepy and then people do "give out". ;)

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 12 22:11:41 2019 No.5432414 >>5432402 What the shit? This paid thing is just a "pretty package" on top of mupen64 and glide64? Talk about scummy.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 12 22:13:56 2019 No.5432419 File: 28 KB, 425x250, most satisfying zombie game ever.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5432409 >It IS going to be a problem for stuff like online games that require closed servers and such, though, :(

Anonymous Tue Mar 12 22:15:01 2019 No.5432421

>>5432414
The thread is about easy to use emulators that work.

The last free version of m64p, is easy to use and just 'works'.

No chasing up additional plugins, no configuring, nothing.

Do i agree it's scummy to put behind a paywall? Yeah, but that's not what the topic is about.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 12 22:16:15 2019 No.5432425 >>5432421 >The last free version of m64p, is easy to use and just 'works'. Does it run Star Wars Episode I: Battle for Naboo?

Anonymous Tue Mar 12 22:21:38 2019 No.5432437

Learn to read nigga, i said specifically it does here.

>>5432402

Granted, the games i tested, i only tested for 10 mins or so, but in that ten mins, not a single problem. Gauntlet legends had a very minor graphical glitch on the hud, but that's it. A complete non issue.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 12 22:26:26 2019 No.5432445 >>5432425 >>5432425 >Does it run Star Wars Episode I: Battle for Naboo? Well?

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 12 22:35:03 2019 No.5432467 >>5432425 >>5432445 Fuck me, read this >>5432437 Or, you know, check it yourself kiddo. SPOILER ALERT< YES IT FUCKING RUNS NABOO. IT RUNS EVERYTHING.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 12 22:35:59 2019 No.5432470 >>5432467 OK, link, linear anon?

Anonymous Tue Mar 12 22:43:30 2019 No.5432483

>>5431669
>majority were abandoned, replaced by worse shit
this is objectively false though - the "major" ones from like ~2006 either got improved on, ceased all advancements, ceased and released code which others improved on OR others came into the fray and created much better ones

>n64
Project64 was the bigger one, last updated in 2017 but the much better Mupen had a last update late Feb
>psx
epsxe was the major player but Mednafen has absolutely blown it out of the water with it's higher compat and overall functionality
>ps2
one of the hardest consoles to emulated, last updated 2017 but the plugins get updated pretty often, perhaps another big update soon? last one was giant though with MTVU
>GC
GOAT status
>wii/wii u
bretty good

anyways, i could go on but emulation is in an absolutely fantastic state right now

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 12 22:45:07 2019 No.5432485 >>5432483 >emulation is in an absolutely fantastic state right now ^this Heck, Raiden II arcade was made playable years ago and many said the encryption would never be cracked.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 13 00:15:03 2019 No.5432651 >>5432483 >Dolphin >GOAT That's not mGBA though

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 13 13:17:52 2019 No.5433817 >>5432408 cemu did it, others followed. it's the future people chose.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 13 13:26:08 2019 No.5433840 >>5432402 I guess running like SHIT with constant crashes beats not running at all.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 13 13:39:07 2019 No.5433870 >>5433840 >I guess running like SHIT with constant crashes beats not running at all. Which game, Battle For Naboo? I want to properly emulate that, damnit! And yes I do own a real cartridge too.

Anonymous Wed Mar 13 13:44:05 2019 No.5433882

>>5432402
>I'll give 1 x 4chan gold to any kind sir that can find a game that won't run perfectly on it.
Put your helmet back on retard, no N64 game runs anywhere near perfectly, they don't even try to emluate them correctly, they use HLE instead. Even if you don't notice a difference they're still lagging, the physics and timing is off.
>Like, seriously, shut the fuck up if you don't know what your talking about.
Good joke.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 13 13:59:11 2019 No.5433919 >>5432257 The first NES emulator I used was JNES(?) Snes was ZSNES Genesis was Gens+ N64 was PJ64

Anonymous Wed Mar 13 14:09:51 2019 No.5433949

>>5433882
Eh idk dude, BK besides from the opening jam they do which is a little wonky, works absolutely perfectly. Loaded up Tooie last night and I don't think I can't think of a single issue I had and I finished the whole thing.

There are lots of games that have minor issues (which is the case for nearly any somewhat recent consoles) but you're painting them out to be fucking horrible lmao

Anonymous Wed Mar 13 21:10:44 2019 No.5434908

>>5433882
Like i said, shut the fuck up, you don't know what your talking about.
>muh hle
>muh physics
>muh timings
>muh minor things that absolutely cannot be noticed in a real world scenario

Like i said, shut the fuck up, or find a game that won't launch.I'm waiting.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 13 21:18:36 2019 No.5434929 >>5434908 >>muh hle I agree. What does that even mean in terms of playing the game? Yeah, it's high level emulation-HLE. So? How is that a bad thing?

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 13 21:21:53 2019 No.5434938 >>5434908 >find a game that won't launch. what an absolute fag. just changed your own criteria from "any game that won't run perfectly on it"

Anonymous Wed Mar 13 21:54:34 2019 No.5434989

>>5431598
compatibly was always a huge problem back then, but emulators did use hacks to makes games run better because there wasn't a real call for accuracy yet.
the problem now is that current emulators need much higher specs in comparison and there less choices for emulators overall.

Anonymous Wed Mar 13 22:23:05 2019 No.5435050

>>5434989
>current emulators need much higher specs
huh? no they don't, unless you're talking about new console emulators

current emulators, even while getting upgraded, still require the same specs they did years ago. there's *optional* things in the game that let you run the game at higher resolutions, but you still need a basic CPU to play the game natively

Anonymous Wed Mar 13 22:31:00 2019 No.5435068

>>5434938
Oh fuck me, this is the game is, semantics?

My definition of 'perfectly' is play game from start to finish with barely any glitches or issues. Considering even retail release copies of games rarely meet this standard i think it's a fair bar to set.

So again, i'm not moving the goalposts, find a game that won't launch AND play perfectly as per the above criteria.

>inb4 that's not perfect

inb4 fuck you, like i said retail copies are shipped with bugs all the time, mostly minor in nature. I've not found a single issue with any game (besides the very minor one with gauntlet legends i mentioned earlier).

All you faggots talk a big game, but aren't willing to d/l the emulator and prove me wrong. You all shut the fuck up about saturn emulation being bad, but after getting btfo now n64 emulation is the new whipping boy.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 14 00:12:39 2019 No.5435272 >>5431598 N64 emulators were borderline unusable in the early 2000s. Though I do agree that SOME emulators actually got worse over time. Some of them will add too many features and become a chore to use. Simplicity + accuracy is the ideal formula.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 14 00:18:22 2019 No.5435278 >>5431598 Emulators used to be faster but less accurate. That never bothered me, personally, but better is a subjective term. Just go download some older emulators. They still work most of the time.

Anonymous Thu Mar 14 01:16:15 2019 No.5435373

>>5435068
There's a name for what you're describing anon, that's a game being 'playable'. 'Perfect' means 'this game ran as it did on original hardware', which it objectively isn't if there's any glitches or issues, no matter how minor. Stop trying to change what words mean because you're a fag that's backpedaling.

Anonymous Thu Mar 14 01:53:09 2019 No.5435450
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>>5435373
'playabe' conjurs up images of managing to, on a technical level, reach the end of the game, regardless of the amount of minor glitches and visual artifacts, audio distortions and other oddities encountered along the way.

By your definition pic related would be classed as 'playable', by my definition, no, it's not perfect as to the naked eye, without using fraps, or some bs debug mode, or consulting some autistic website that catalogs every minor pixel out of place. Any retard can see that this ain't right, the emulator is clearly fucking out.

Find a similar 'type' of issue with any n64 game using m64p.

Btw can we move past the point of 'that's not the definition of perfect'? It's the /vr/ equivalent of a grammer nazi, pulling someone up on using 'there' instead of 'their'. You know what i meant, i know what i meant, let's get to the meat of the issue.

So you have a choice, either keep fagging on about 'muh perfect' or d/l the emu, try some games and see for yourself.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 14 01:55:09 2019 No.5435457 >>5435450 So in other words you're complaining that you're misusing the term and other people are taking issue with it. Maybe go with 'highly playable' or something else that doesn't generally mean near or completely cycle-accurate emulation.

Anonymous Thu Mar 14 02:04:57 2019 No.5435484 [DELETED]

>>5435457
>>5435373

Every fucking emulator compatibility list uses >>5435450
definition of "playable".
In absolute most cases "Playable" (or "working") means simply "Games can be played all the way through" - direct quote
One step below is simply "Starts" - game goes past the main menu and you can experience at least some gameplay before it crashes/hangs/bugs out and becomes incompletable.
Check the compatibility lists for Dolphin/Citra/Desmume
Some emulators don't even have "perfect" score, opting out for something like "fullspeed" completely omitting accuracy to the hardware. Many emulators consider "no major glitches" as "perfect" even if there are minor (usually graphical) glitches

It is you who are misusing the term.

Anonymous Thu Mar 14 02:06:11 2019 No.5435486

>>5435457
Please direct me to this speadsheet you keep consulting, on how to grade emulator accuracy?

First you said 'playable', then 'highly playable'. What about 'extremely highly playble'? What's in between those two?

You see, it's fucking annoying when some asshole grinds a conversation/debate down to halt by playing 'gotcha' with arbitrary terms like 'perfect'. Really, if you want to get all Zen like up in here, nothing on earth would meet the true dictionary definition of 'perfect', it's unattainable by it's very definition.

So, what do you want? I said 'perfect', and now your saying i misused the term and now u say i should use some other term you just plucked out of your arse? Fucking cmon.

Like i said, you KNOW what i meant, and i KNOW what i meant.

Let's move past it, ffs, and get to the core of the issue.

I'm genuinely interested if anyone can find an problem with any game, besides the minor one with gauntlet legends. An older version had some minor issues with extreme-g and kirby 64, which have been fixed in the last free version i linked to.

You will honestly be impressed. I just wished people would be open to the idea of being impressed with something and happily surprised, rather then just outright shitting on something sight unseen. It's a shitty way to go in life.

Anonymous Thu Mar 14 02:10:04 2019 No.5435496

>>5435457
>>5435373
>>5435450

In absolute most cases "Playable" (or "working") means simply "Games can be played all the way through" - direct quote
This does not account for any ammount of glitches or inaccuracies the player might experience while playing, unless they are totally gamebraking and prevent the player from reaching the ending.
One step below is simply "Starts" - game goes past the main menu and you can experience at least some gameplay before it crashes/hangs/bugs out and becomes incompletable.
Check the compatibility lists for Dolphin/Citra/Desmume
Some emulators don't even have "perfect" score, opting out for something like "fullspeed" completely omitting accuracy to the hardware. Some emulators consider "no major glitches" as "perfect" even if there are minor (usually graphical) glitches

For example:
https://pandorawiki.org/PPSSPP_Compatibility_List
https://en.dolphin-emu.org/compat/
But look up literally any emulation compat list

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 14 05:55:49 2019 No.5435705 >>5435068 No, I am not willing to pay some idiot patreonbux for it. Bad precedent. It better not be violating any licenses like GPL, too.

Anonymous Thu Mar 14 06:52:01 2019 No.5435753

>>5435705

I already linked to the last free version here

>>5432402

Again....it is here. It's the version i am using.

http://www.emutalk.net/threads/57250-m64p-download-(2019-01-26)

I'm holding your hand here. I mean, unless you give me remote access to your computer, i can't do anything more for you.

The sense of entitlement is bewildering. I'm trying to help you, lord how i am trying. You can lead a horse to water but you can't make it drink it seems. What's next, what me to show you where to d/l n64 roms as well?

If you a truly thirsty for n64 emulation that will genuinely surprise you at how good it is, with absolutely no tinkering involved, just drink. Drink you damn horse.

I honestly thought /vr/ was better then this. This is /v/ tier faggotry.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 14 07:16:03 2019 No.5435772 >>5435753 You are way too pushy.

Anonymous Thu Mar 14 09:16:05 2019 No.5435894

>>5435496
>In absolute most cases "Playable" (or "working") means simply "Games can be played all the way through" - direct quote

That's not what "playable" means at all fool, that NEVER been what playable means in the context of emulation. Go screw your "direct quote" zoomer, why do you "direct quote" some tard who wrote something on a 3rd party wiki and yet don't believe people here.

We have seen what compatibility lists look like. You're not providing us with any new information here that we didn't know since at least 10+ years ago. Just stfu, you know nothing about emulation and have nothing to add.

Also, those lists are notorious for calling something "runs perfect" or "no problems" when they're running like absolute shit.

Anonymous Thu Mar 14 09:34:48 2019 No.5435919 [DELETED]

>>5435894
Meh, don't bother, he already switched to victim mode "b-but I was just trying to help why is the mean 4chan man not kissing the very wrong I stand onto", he'll never see why his attitude is obnoxious and will just try to report or lash at everyone who isn't sunshine and smiles about his valuable contribution.
It'd be hilarious if the guy was the maker of this thing trying to shill his patreon with "a free dose" like a vulgar drug seller, though. Not terribly likely because that'd be the stupidest way to get people to pay, but man it'd pay that dollar if that was the case.

Either way, programming a GUI is nothing compared to the work involved in making the emulator and plugins, but the one charging money is the one putting the least effort. Why is this always a thing.

Anonymous Thu Mar 14 09:36:00 2019 No.5435921

>>5435894
Meh, don't bother, he already switched to victim mode "b-but I was just trying to help why is the mean 4chan man not kissing the very ground I stand onto", he'll never see why his attitude is obnoxious and will just try to report or lash at everyone who isn't sunshine and smiles about his valuable contribution.
It'd be hilarious if the guy was the maker of this thing trying to shill his patreon with "a free dose" like a vulgar drug seller, though. Not terribly likely because that'd be the stupidest way to get people to pay, but man it'd pay that dollar if that was the case just for the laugh.

Either way, programming a GUI is nothing compared to the work involved in making the emulator and plugins, but the one charging money is the one putting the least effort. Why is this always a thing.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 14 09:37:01 2019 No.5435924 >>5431598 I think it's windows' fault

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 14 09:42:06 2019 No.5435929 >emulators too hard to use >you can easily find a quick youtube video showing you how to set it up that's what i did for mednafen and it was totally worth it

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 14 09:45:44 2019 No.5435936 >>5435894 >that NEVER been what playable means in the context of emulation except it alway was, you assmad buttfaggot

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 14 09:48:32 2019 No.5435942 >two apes just arguing with each other about something that literally doesn't matter must suck being you guys

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 14 09:49:29 2019 No.5435945 >>5435894 >muh feels >muh gamer cred >FOM buzzwords the cancer rears its ugly head

Anonymous Thu Mar 14 10:07:42 2019 No.5435975

>>5432287
I still consider Snes9X modern since its maintained (i believe?) and a great UX.
Same as Mesen, its better then literally all other NES emulators - though this one is newer.
Everything ive seen about retroarch is a huge turn off, not sure why people talk about it so much.

Anonymous Thu Mar 14 12:01:22 2019 No.5436145

>>5435975
Retroarch is concidered to be a collection of most accurate emulation cores, so one does not need to look them all up individually when he can just slap Retroarch on pretty much any system and be assured to have a reasonably accurate-to-original experience.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 15 12:51:21 2019 No.5438663 >>5431598 No they didn't.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 15 12:59:30 2019 No.5438680 >>5438663 fuck off, ghostbumpfaggot

Anonymous Fri Mar 15 14:42:41 2019 No.5438834
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>>5435929
>you can easily find a quick youtube video
>some shitty stock music or weeb song starts playing
>HEY GUYS NASALLY MILQUETOAST AUTISTIC FAG HERE THIS IS MY SETUP FOR EMULATOR.EXE I DON'T KNOW WHAT THIS SETTING DOES BUT LETS TURN IT ON ANYWAY ALSO TURN ON HQ4X FILTERS FOR SICK GFX

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 16 07:17:19 2019 No.5440289 >>5436145 I have mixed feelings about retroarch; the android version is easy enough to configure and use, had dq3 up and running in a couple of minutes using the fceu core. The pc version is the opposite, needlessly convoluted.

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