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DOOM THREAD / RETRO FPS THREAD - Last thread >>5412334

DOOM/II/ULTIMATE/FINAL/64/CHEX/QUAKE/DUKE/ETC
Gameplay, WADs/Maps/Mods, Source Ports
All other retro FPS welcome
~~ Let's post like gentlemen ~~

FAQ/PASTEBIN
http://pastebin.com/hzDnLpct

SO YOU WANT TO PLAY SOME...
Doom, Quake, Duke, Marathon, or Thief:
https://imgur.com/a/wWS8zXz
-Album of infographics with setup information and user-made content recommendations

Same thing, but in video format:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ietb4JwaaXA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CGj4gXyCzg0

IWADs and more (>3 GB): https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B47V8l2eVZKxRU82S3JkZkdBRXM
PortaDOOM: https://github.com/Kroc/PortaDOOM/releases
Quake pastebin (2016-06-22): http://pastebin.com/XjBHDRFw
Downloads for various /vr/ shooters. (Includes Duke Nukem, Doom, Blood, and Quake.)
https://mega.nz/#F!QXIk1bjB!NHRWGIfjcc77PyGgRlga4Q
https://mega.nz/#F!GtEQTISJ!CCJGyPEEEsZasc1PMXicUA

Doom RPG series
https://doomrpg.weebly.com/

Launchers for Build Engine games
http://buildgamedosboxlaunchers.weebly.com/

== INFO/LINKS ==

OFFICIAL DOOM WIKI
http://doomwiki.org/

WHERE TO FIND WADS
Vanilla/Boom: https://www.doomworld.com/forum/4-wads-mods/
ZDoom: http://forum.zdoom.org/viewforum.php?f=19
/idgames: https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/

TUTORIALS/UTILITIES
https://pastebin.com/7vKYWYp0

RESOURCES
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewforum.php?f=37

== /VR/DOOM COMMUNITY ==

THREAD ARCHIVES
https://desuarchive.org/vr/search/text/%22doom%20thread%22/type/op/

MAKING NEW THREADS PROPERLY
https://pastebin.com/yzwgaLp7

IMAGE DATABASE
http://vrdoom.booru.org/?page=post&s=list

OUR WADS
http://pastebin.com/5sKRiJzS
http://pastebin.com/aiEgdB3K

>> No.5420163

=== NEWS ===

[3-7] 3D Realms announces Wrath, a new game made on Darkplaces
https://twitter.com/3DRealms/status/1103627856201113601

[3-7] SM193 for Quake released, themed on white castles
http://celephais.net/board/view_thread.php?id=61697

[3-7] AMC TC Episode 3 released
https://www.moddb.com/games/the-amc-tc/downloads/the-amc-tc-episodes-1-2-and-3

[3-7] Author of gameplay mod Hell Caliber looking for playtesting and feedback
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=62535

[3-5] TNT 2: Devilution is almost done
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/104882-tnt-2-devilution-clean-thread-new-updates/

[2-26] Dimension of the Boomed sequel 'Realm of Z-Magic' teaser demo released
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/104723-the-realm-of-z-magic-teaser-demo/

[2-24] Chex Quest HD trailer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JDblwrDDGc8

[2-22] Powerslave EX mouse fix for Windows 10
https://community.pcgamingwiki.com/files/file/1218-powerslave-ex-fix/

[2-16] Bungie's Pathways Into Darkness rebuilt in Aleph One
http://simplici7y.com/items/aleph-one-pathways-into-darkness

[2-21] SM192 released for Quake released
http://celephais.net/board/view_thread.php?id=61692

[2-19] Colorful Hell updated to 0.96, introducing a new tier and more
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=47980&start=705#p1092145

[2-18] SIGIL delayed until April
https://rome-ro.squarespace.com/news/2019/2/16/sigil-update

[2-13] NBlood released, an open-source port of Blood modeled off EDuke32
https://twitter.com/nukeykt/status/1095422953334857728

[2-10] Evilternity updated to final release
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/103425-final-release-eviternity/

[2-9] BTSX E3 screenshots
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/104557-back-to-saturn-x-episode-3-wip/

[2-9] Quake2XP receives an update
https://www.moddb.com/mods/quake-2-xp/downloads/quake2xp-1269-beta2

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>> No.5420165 [DELETED] 

>>5420162
Non-/pol/ image please.

>> No.5420168 [DELETED] 

>>5420165
go to another site if you dont like 4chan

>> No.5420170
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>>5420165
That edit is as old as 2013.

>> No.5420186

>>5420170
So?

>> No.5420189 [DELETED] 

>>5420168
The whole site hates /pol/ though, nice try.

>> No.5420217 [DELETED] 

>>5420189
No it doesn't, and go fuck yourself.

>> No.5420221 [DELETED] 

>>5420217
Imagine being so deluded to think /pol/ isn't hated throughout the site. Please search any of the site's many archives and just type "pol" and watch the results be overwhelming negativity.

>> No.5420232 [DELETED] 

>>5420221
What's worse than /pol/ is people calling everything /pol/ and derailing threads, gtfo

>> No.5420235
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>>5420221
imagine being a good poster and not flaming about politics and falling for the bait

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>>5420235
>I WAS JUST PRETENDING

Fucking kill yourself.

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5420256

Fuck you and fuck your offtopic bullshit. Let's get back to the topic of this thread already.

>> No.5420265

>>5420256
oh yeah well gimme a H U H man

>> No.5420293
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>>5420265

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>>5420265

>> No.5420312

>>5420293
Ok, this is QUAD

>> No.5420316
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>tfw no hunter gf
god i can't fucking TAKE IT ANYMORE
AAAAAAAA

>> No.5420335
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>>5420316
>tfw no crash gf
>e

>> No.5420347

I love Plutonia and KDITD the most out of the official games.

>> No.5420351

>>5420335
Who did that one comic where doomguy got """trained""" by crash and by trained I mean fugg'd?

>> No.5420352

>>5420347
do you want a medal.

>> No.5420353

>>5420352
Yes.

>> No.5420380

>>5420265
>>5420256
A slipgate in the garage?!

>> No.5420386
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>>5420265
*otherworldy screeching*

>> No.5420483
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>>5420380
See, it's like... I could have a rocket launcher in one hand, and a QUAD in the other!

>> No.5420542

>>5420335
crash is okay but she's no hunter

>> No.5420545

>>5420165
That's a jewmage!

>> No.5420595

>>5420165
I don't like /pol/ either but its an old 4chan meme you dumb fuck.
>>5420189
This

>> No.5420657

make a mod where doomgy and all the opponents are always in cars with ramming flattening and driveby shooting. its like that picture of the buff arm grabbing a steering wheel

>> No.5420660

>Wrath IGN gameplay
>savegames are items

It is as if they learned nothing from Daikatana.

>> No.5420669

>>5420660
?????
What did you learn from Daikatana? Have I been wooshed or are you serious

>> No.5420678

>>5420669
Daikatana had a "SaveGem" pickup that you had to use to save your game, and they were limited to 2-3 per level (mostly in secrets).
It was very heavily and justly bashed for it both by critics and the Doom/Quake community at the time, and since then it is considered to be a stupid idea more befitted of console games that has no place on PC.

>> No.5420682

>>5420678
It really doesnt sound bad desu at least in Wrath

>> No.5420712

>>5420163
>3D Realms announces Wrath, a new game made on Darkplaces
>1C
Goddamn rusians.

>> No.5420731

>>5420712
>Goddamn rusians
It still kinda amazes me how rusofobic you bitches are

>> No.5420747

>>5420386
QuakeSlimeGuy?

>> No.5420750
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>>5420712
And so what? Do you expect every Russian to be
Vasyan777 or something?

>> No.5420753

>>5420712
1C's Twitter account says Czech Republic though, unless I'm missing something.

>> No.5420760

>>5420712
>3D Realms
fake-3D Realms

>> No.5420761
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>>5420660
They're going down a no good path

>> No.5420762
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>>5420678
>people so casual they absolutely must be able to quicksave every 5 steps or they throw a fit

>> No.5420765

>>5420762
It's an action FPS, not Resident Evil.

>> No.5420769

>>5420760
>ook

>> No.5420771 [DELETED] 

>>5420750
Yes. vasyan777 got hired by 3D Realms https://twitter.com/vasyan7771/status/1103970107729035265

Wrath = vasyan game

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>>5420771
CYKA BLYAT NAHOOY

>> No.5420781

>>5420750
The fact that Vasyan-mod gained as much traction as it did despite being purely a one-off troll mod says quite a lot about the "Retro FPS" audience
You guys taking it seriously makes it even funnier.

>>5420712
>one troll mod somehow completely invalidates all other legit contributions from the community
Well, I guess all mods conceived on 4chan are worthless shit now because pol.wad exists.

>>5420762
Having an option and not using it out of your own volition is better than not having an option at all.
In Daikatana it was compounded by some BS designs and numerous instant-death possibilities.
IonStorm themselves patched the savegame limit out later.

No matter the reasoning, doing something a retro game was blasted for, in a retro inspired game is not a good decision.

>> No.5420782
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5420782

so this thread's going to be just as bad as the last, huh

>> No.5420783
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>>5420771
>>5420779
Teбя caмoгo этa клoyнaдa нe зaeбaлa зa вcё этo вpeмя?

>> No.5420787

>>5420771
>>5420779
>literal admitted troll persona says he got hired by 3D Realms, that means its true

>> No.5420789 [DELETED] 

>>5420782
Even worse, going by the OP image.

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>>5420787
3D realms are the vasyans.

>> No.5420803

>>5420165
What are you? A pussy?!

>> No.5420804 [DELETED] 

>>5420189
>The whole site will become /pol/

fix'd

>> No.5420812 [DELETED] 

>>5420789
Oy vey!

>> No.5420815

Best FPS on PS1?

Quake 2 and Powerslave I know. Anything else? There's this one game I played a demo of a lot as a kid and I always wanted to play the full game but could never remember what it was

>> No.5420817

>>5420678
Yeah, keep in mind the whole ep1 of Daikatana was balanced like Perfect Hatred, also with occasional AI babysitting AND with weapons which were ready and eager to hurt you more than enemies did.
Savegem mechanic was just a topping on the turd cake in that particular case.

>> No.5420826

>>5420815
I almost said Quake, but that never got an official port.

>> No.5420827

>>5420789
I only picked that image since it's one of few I haven't gone through in the past two or so years. Whoever has some Russians rent-free is doing a fine enough job of shitting the place himself.

>> No.5420840 [DELETED] 

>>5420827
You knew. Don't lie.

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>>5420840
Honestly? Not at all. I don't bother with /pol/ but I now take it that they're now prominent enough to make blue boards seethe over an old meme.

>> No.5420872 [DELETED] 

>>5420789
You're the only one bitching about it. Quit whining like a baby because you don't like a picture on the internet.

>> No.5420874 [DELETED] 

>>5420753
I think they lie that they are from EU, because there's too much hate on Russia regarding antilgbt laws and Ukraine's territory annexation. 1C is a well known russian company.

"With the POWER of the legendary original Quake engine, WRATH brings back good memories while at the same time creates greater new ones," said Nikolay Baryshnikov, CEO of 1C Entertainment.

Nikolay Baryshnikov - russian name, russian surname.

>> No.5420878

>>5420760
>2.5D Raycasting Realms

>> No.5420879

>>5420874
Well alright then. Either way, hope the game turns out to be decent.

>> No.5420882 [DELETED] 

>>5420874
SJW wouldn't buy a game if they see it's associated with Russia, but these guys count every penny, so they had to state they are from a small EU country in their twitter account.

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ITT: Baww, /pol/ images hurt my fe-fe's

>> No.5420886 [DELETED] 

>>5420883
>he doesn't know

>> No.5420890 [DELETED] 

>>5420731
>>5420750
>>5420781
Cyкa блять нaхyй пиздeц. You guys can't take even the most harmless ironic shitpost (that i am fully guilty as charged in making).

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>>5420883
>>5420872
/vr/ is lost.

>> No.5420896

>>5420660
People should be allowed to save anytime, anywhere, as many times as they damn well please.

>> No.5420905 [DELETED] 

>>5420894
You too will eventually see the light

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>>5420894
Are you sure it's not you that's lost?

>> No.5420914 [DELETED] 

>>5420874
>because there's too much hate on Russia regarding antilgbt laws and Ukraine's territory annexation
BASED
>I think they lie that they are from EU
NOT BASED

>> No.5420916

>>5420872
>You're the only one bitching about it
Nope.

>> No.5420918 [DELETED] 

>>5420894
I think you got lost on the way to reddit.

>> No.5420919 [DELETED] 

>>5420906
>someone made a /pol/ wad ergo ALL of /doom/ is now /pol/
Makes perfect sense. Do you also think the trump wad means this thread supports Trump?

>> No.5420920 [DELETED] 

>>5420919
Don't bother engaging these mouthbreathers, just report the threads and hope the mods haven't already chosen their side.

>> No.5420921

>>5420896
lol

>> No.5420923 [DELETED] 

>>5420920
-s

>> No.5420924

>>5420781
>No matter the reasoning, doing something a retro game was blasted for, in a retro inspired game is not a good decision.
Maybe wait until you play the game to say it's a bad decision or not. They may have made it much better than Daikatana.

>> No.5420926
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When are you fucking fags going to talk about Doom?

>> No.5420927

>>5420926
when you stop posting weird al.

>> No.5420930

So, about Wrath trailer and gameplay video.

Stylish, probably more HeXen 1 and in line with what Hecatomb could've probably end up being, than HeXen 2. Not that memorable in monster designs though, so far. Interesting looking combat, although I can just see it devolving in some slaughtershit further on.

That having been said, layouting in the particular map that was shown on the gameplay video SUCKS MAJOR ASS. If this was done by someone with actual mapping experience - as the visuals seem to indicate - I can fucking bet it was some speedmapping communitycuck or AD-suckup. Can't they just hire Sandy or something? Because what they are currently moving towards is Painkiller demake.

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>>5420927
Not happening.

>> No.5420935

>>5420930
haven't feel any Painkiller vibes from the gameplay - no lock ups, no waves, fairly small amount of enemies.
But yeah, the map looks linear as fuck.

>> No.5420945

guys, I'm not really feeling wolfenstein 3d

>> No.5420948
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Everyone shut up, DRLA just got updated.

>>5420163

https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=37044

>> No.5420949
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We've got 4 Temples of the Lizard Men already.
But what about a Temple of the Lizard Women?

>> No.5420950

>>5420945
It's fun, but not as timeless as doom, it feels really dated and the level design is repetitive as fuck, I can totally understand where you're coming from.

>> No.5420951

>>5420945
Play the doom mods

>> No.5420957

>>5420945
It's not as strong as Doom, or Rise Of The Triad, but I think the original three episodes are alright as some light arcade-y fun. I think it's best enjoyed in short bursts, a level a day or so, but if you don't enjoy it, don't force yourself.

>> No.5420961

>>5420948
The absolute madman actually released it.

>> No.5420962

>>5420948
after ten thousand years, I finally emit the sekrits

>> No.5420965

>>5420962
It's bees, it's always bees.

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Hideous Quakestructor
Hideous Wolfstructor
Hideous Dukestructor
Hideous Bloodstructor
Hireous Wangstructor
Hideous Elfstructor
Hideous Hextructor
Hideous Chextructor
Hideous Strafestructor
Gorgeous Creator

how would they play out?

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>>5420949
I think a couple of those had lizard women "easter eggs"

do not consort with animals, it is wrong.

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>>5420949
"Everybody knows that girls can't do shit other than suck dick."

>> No.5420978

>>5420973
Gross.

>> No.5420979

>>5420935
>>5420930
Devs have said the map is linear/easy mode for showcase purposes, that the map is massive and has much more to offer than what the IGN video showed, since it was focused on the narrow tunnels under the swamp.

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>>5420969
STOP

>> No.5420984

>>5420969
Who is Hideo and why does he needs so many 'strucktors?

>> No.5420989

>>5420974
The megasphere is cute.

>> No.5420991

>>5420973
>>5420974
If it's sentient, and can consent then then it's not an animal, and it's not zoophilia but xenophilia instead, which is totally ok (capt. Kirk confirms and approves)

>> No.5421015

>>5420969
>Hideous Quakestructor
I'm still curious about this idea.

>> No.5421019

>>5420989
So what actually are Supercharges and Megaspheres? Trapped demonic energy?

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>>5420991
I wonder who could be behind this post

>> No.5421027
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>>5420948
OH SHIT

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>>5421019
I don't know but I want to pick it up and hold it.

>> No.5421041

>>5421031
I bet it feels like touching one of those old plasma orbs

>>5420991
we don't like your kind around here

>> No.5421049

>>5420712
>dissing the company who made men of war assault squad
fuck you

>>5420991
don't you mean nu lando calrissian

>> No.5421053

>>5420991
I don't remember Kirk saying that.

>> No.5421070

>>5420935
It's not about linearity, it's about predictability. It's bunch of simple rooms, each having like three times as much space as you truly need, slapped together with some zombies invading them, environment-dressed so that to look pretty. The intended gameplay is literally lowest common denominator. There is no thought whatsoever meant to be involved on the player's side. It's literally been there done that a thousand times over, trivial as fuck timesink that just sits there looking pretty, while you entertain yourself with LEL INTENSE AS FCUK combat against majestic monster AIs.
>>5420979
Size really doesn't matter all that much when the mapper clearly has no idea as to what he doing there. This particular mapper clearly thinks that OH ILL JUST SLAP SOME ROUND AND RECTANGULAR ROOMS TOGETHER and OH LET ME JUST MAKE ZOMBIES INVADE FRENETIC COMBAT INTENSE AS FUCK is "good enough".

>> No.5421084

>>5421070
>Size really doesn't matter all that much when the mapper clearly has no idea as to what he doing there. This particular mapper clearly thinks that OH ILL JUST SLAP SOME ROUND AND RECTANGULAR ROOMS TOGETHER and OH LET ME JUST MAKE ZOMBIES INVADE FRENETIC COMBAT INTENSE AS FUCK is "good enough".
Yeah because you're obviously better than the person who made this level, right.

>> No.5421085

>>5421084
I have obviously played stuff that was better than what was shown in that video. Therefore I have something to compare it to.

>> No.5421089

>>5421085
But you haven't played this level yet, you watched some hack journo play it. That's a big difference.
Maybe just maybe the layout of the tunnels was done on purpose? Maybe the rounded corridors were made so you can play pool with that shotgun's secondary fire? Maybe there's more to it than just a succession of small rooms? You don't know. You've seen a small snippet of a much larger level that looks quite diverse. Have you seen these wooden planks on the towers outside? Have you seen how the rooms suddenly got bigger near the end of the video? Do us a favor and stop assuming.

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+Dusk

Which are you most hype for?
Which could you not give a shit about?
Which do you wish was wiped from the plane of existance?

>> No.5421110

>>5420948
I can't believe that it happened before either Zandro 4.0 or Zandro/GZDoom MP merge happened!

>> No.5421120

>>5420316
>AAAAAAAA
secret doot man detected

>> No.5421125 [DELETED] 

>>5421106
Prodeus looks amazing, Wrath looks more like demake of Painkiller.

>> No.5421132 [DELETED] 

>>5421106
I guess if I had to choose

>Ion Maiden
>Blood Remaster cause nightdive are faggots
>Hellbound

>> No.5421134

Vanilla Doom on Steams controls are so fuckin weird especially after GZDoom and Brutal Doom.

Why does moving my mouse up move me forward?

>> No.5421137 [DELETED] 

>>5421106
Not interested in any of the modern retro-alikes, they usually miss the mark by a wide margin and just try to sell off nostalgia for something that didn't really exist.

Sigil I'll probably play (if it doesn't get Romero'd into 2025) but I'm not hyped for the third-coming of Doom just because it's Romero. He only did ten maps in Doom 1.

>> No.5421143

>>5421134
What is Brutal Doom

>> No.5421148

>>5421134

Because that's how mouse worked in original Doom.

>> No.5421149 [DELETED] 

>>5420165
Hi, jew.

>> No.5421150

>>5421137
>anon forgot the two 2016 maps

Sigil will be good. E5M4 is god tier based on streams. And I love the idea you can shoot those illuminati eyes. John is creative.

>> No.5421151

>>5421137
They are the 10 best maps though

>> No.5421153

>>5420781
>No matter the reasoning, doing something a retro game was blasted for, in a retro inspired game is not a good decision.
Disagree. You just have to do it better or properly.

>> No.5421159

>so many people defending limited saves in this thread
it's like you want PC games to be closer to consoles or something

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>>5421106
Prodeus has incredible art assets, but the way it literally DROWNS everything in post processing and filters...

>> No.5421173

>>5421159
Personally I think it should be optional, but it's not a deal breaker either. So long as there aren't instant death traps or some such it could be fun.

>> No.5421175 [DELETED] 

>>5421162
The maps look great but everything else is just pissed on to make it look "retro" even though nothing ever looked like that.

Makes it seem like they made a game, realized it wouldn't market very well and threw all those on top.

>> No.5421181

>>5421106
Is Sigil a wad or a standalone like... launcher exe thing?

>> No.5421184 [DELETED] 

>>5421175
I don't know if it's made in Unreal or Unity, but it uses these ugly pixelation filters that never look good.

>> No.5421189

>>5421181
It's a wad but it'll probably come bundled with GZDoom and instructions to feed it Doom or Freedoom.

>> No.5421193 [DELETED] 

>>5421184
Yeah, which really doesn't make me buy their line of
>It reaches the quality you expect from a AAA experience while adhering to some of the aesthetic technical limits of older hardware.
that they have on their site.

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>>5420162
Guncaster won't work with Heretic on GZDOOM 3.3.0

>> No.5421196

>>5421195
Grad Zahl needs an ego check...or learn how to code properly.

>> No.5421198

>>5421196
We need lightmaps and dynamic lights projected by bright textures in GZDoom. When we get this?

>> No.5421210

>>5421195
>single engine
>iwads in the folder
>all those wads dumped in there
Why do you people do this to yourselves every single tiem?

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>>5421195
>multiple IE windows open

>> No.5421218

>>5421216
thats actually how it shows you have different tabs open these days

Not that IE is good to use at all

>> No.5421219

>>5421198
Ask the Russian guys who forked development recently. Maybe you can make some feature requests.

>> No.5421220

>>5421089
If the main course looks braindead, that leaves me in doubts as to whether the level-designer is capable of anything noteworthy in optional areas. What I saw was trivial beyond redemption. There wasn't any observable effort to invent anything whatsoever. It was a rehash galore. So, excuse me for not engaging in circlejerking.

And, actually, I have complained about rooms being WAY TOO BIG already (obviously to accommodate "all over the place" playing style), so them getting even bigger doesn't count for much in my personal book.

>> No.5421223

>>5421195
Dude get a launcher or some frontend or something

>> No.5421229

>>5421219
It wasn't fork. It was GZDoom v3.7.2 with built-in vasyan HD/3D model pack. I doubt vasyan even knows programming. We need to find a proper programmer who will add these feautures.

>> No.5421239

>>5421210
>single engine
Elaborate
Also, whats so wrong with how I place the WADs I have?
>>5421229
Wait for an update to either PRboom+ or Zandronum.

>> No.5421242

Second part of
>>5421239
meant for>>5421196

>> No.5421257 [DELETED] 

>>5420165
Go seethe to some other place, hippie.

>> No.5421279

>>5419886
i still wonder how that samsara monster addon is going

>> No.5421284

idea: pinky demons/lost souls having a chance to turn into a bullet bill from mario, charge at you and explode

>> No.5421287

>>5420351
the female archvile guy i think

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>>5421284

>> No.5421292

>>5421284
The lost souls in Hard Doom do that, sort of.

>> No.5421313 [DELETED] 

>>5421162
>>5421184
Just from what's shown in the trailer I don't want to play, because I won't be able to see anything due to all the visual effects and clutter blocking the player's view

>> No.5421315

>>5421284
I think they did that in Shut Up And Bleed, and they'd do crazy high damage with that too, making Lost Souls the worst fucking menace.

Kinda liked that honestly.

>> No.5421346

Is Hell Revealed 2 really that much of a drop in quality compared to the original? I haven't played it a whole lot but it doesn't really seem that bad in comparison to the original

>> No.5421354

>>5421284
> lost souls and pinkies are just projectiles

>> No.5421358

>>5421354
>cyberdemons launch cyberdemons that are projectiles

>> No.5421369
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>DoomRL update
I'll never finish my project at this point, anyway time to spend the next weeks playing this on every wad imaginable and being a complete badass by ignoring the "not compatible with modern gzdoom" warning.

>> No.5421371

>>5421346
I'd say it's better.

>> No.5421375

>>5420165
how is nigel thornberry /pol/

>> No.5421378

>>5421369
the roguelike?

>> No.5421394

>>5421378
The weapon mod

>> No.5421403

>>5421198
no, we don't, you fucking russians

>> No.5421406

>>5420948
...No update notes? what's changed?

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>>5421406
> https://www.dropbox.com/s/eemo9mv70aerahh/Changelog.txt?dl=0
> https://www.dropbox.com/s/t2e9woljrntouyk/Monsterpack%20Changelog.txt?dl=0

>> No.5421436

>>5421420
Oh, I missed those links amongst everything, it's not a well laid-out post, and the latest news section doesn't say anything helpful.

>> No.5421463

>>5421346
hr1 turns to complete shit in the latter half. HR2 is better, but since it's "slaughter" there's people here who won't like it.

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5421469

https://www.dreadcentral.com/news/290678/exclusive-universals-doom-gets-official-title-synopsis-and-here-are-three-official-images/
>DOOM: ANNIHILATION follows a group of space marines as they respond to a distress call from a base on a Martian moon, only to discover it’s been overrun by demonic creatures who threaten to create Hell on Earth.

>> No.5421471

>>5421469
>SWAT looking people
>On Mars
They don't even resemble the Doom 3 Marines

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>>5421469

>> No.5421475
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>>5421472

>> No.5421485

>have no motivation to work on anything
>playing doom isn't fun anymore
>modding doom isn't fun anymore
>talking to people about doom isn't fun anymore
i guess this is how it ends
thought i could at least get one more release out
how disappointing

bye, /doom/

>> No.5421487

>>5421469
Oh god, why do they do this shit? It's just going to get shit ratings and they'll blame everything but it being a bad movie. Can't we just not do this?

>> No.5421495

>>5421469
I'm willing to wait and see the trailer.

>> No.5421506

>>5421469
Well. At least it's actually going to be about demons, this time.

>> No.5421519

>>5421469
is this going to be based on how the doom 2k16 alpha looked?

>>5421195
update your cheezy doom ffs

>> No.5421520

Is there a mod for duke3d that makes stepping on shrunken enemies manual rather than automatic? I have a foot pedal i want to use for the fun of it.

>> No.5421529

>>5420815
Disruptor is an alright exclusive

>> No.5421541

>>5420930
Doesn't look like Hexen at all to me. Hexen (and Hexen 2 to an extent) was a very colorful game. This is very dark and brown, like Quake was, but perhaps with a more fantasy theme.

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>>5421469
As much as I think Swatting demons would be a cool idea for a mod they completely fucked it up by not even trying to make them look like UAC marines, hell all it takes is green armor and a spacey looking helmet.
Any generic space marine design would have been better than this, Its the first movie all over again.

But then again I had no expectations to begin with.

>> No.5421565

>>5421475
is that chyna?

>> No.5421604
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Can someone help a retarded anon out? I'm getting this weird graphical glitch on my map and I don't know why. I've tried moving the vertices around and manipulating stuff but this horrible, headache inducing shit won't go away.

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>>5421485
2.5D Doom is just too boring. What you need is a full 3D Doom with modern shaders. You can get it here: https://www.moddb.com/mods/lowpoly-doom-lite-10

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>>5421623

>> No.5421645

>>5421623
Still 2.5 D though.

>>5421604
Try rebuilding the nodes.

>> No.5421707

>>5421541
It has a hexen 2 like texture style. The gradients and shading etc.
Hexen 2 had some pretty ace lowpoly modelling and texturing. Animation too.

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>>5421469
Looks like it's going to be prime cringecore.

>> No.5421748

>>5421645
I tried rebuilding the nodes and no dice. At this point I'll probably just have to delete the entire sector altogether and just re-do the whole thing and see if that fixes it.

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>>5421743
'the fuck is wrong with his chin

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>>5421752

>> No.5421774

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dr5XNbLRlnU

>> No.5421778

Met up with the protector drone from DK3D in Colorfull Hell and he apparently is able to make you unable to attack for like a second.

>> No.5421813

what is the hardest old school shooter that isnt shitty
ive heard that unreal is pretty hard, Wolfenstein 1 too

>> No.5421831

>>5421813
Unreal is not hard at all. It's just people are more used to fight crowd of trash + some beefy but really stupid monsters, instead of only 2-3 trickier, smarter and spongier monsters at a time.

I guess hardest would be Blood, but then many can argue that its difficulty is mostly bullshit (instant reaction time hitscanners and such)

>> No.5421841

>>5421519
The farthest up I'm going in terms of GZDoom would be version 3.4.2

>> No.5421852

>>5421813
Blood, as the other anon said. Although really it's only the Cultist enemies that are dangerous, everyone else can be cheesed if you know the strats.
I would also nominate Hexen 2, the enemies can be pretty tough and the puzzles even moreso.
Nam is hard with all the hitscanners and airstrikes and shit, but it's just shitty, so.

>> No.5421854

>>5421485
ok? what do you want, an apology that we're not interesting enough for you anymore? don't let the door hit you on the way out.

>> No.5421862

>>5421485
bye fgt

>> No.5421863

>>5421469
>>5421472
>>5421475
The fuck is this shit? Some no budget fan film?

>> No.5421890 [DELETED] 

>>5421485
Modders and mappers for Doom are all autistic virgins, not real level or game designers. Watch Romero how the job can be done.

>> No.5421892

Are there any other super hero based mods/wads besides the Batman one?

>> No.5421896

>>5421892
Moonman Doom.

>> No.5421914

>>5421896
can't say much about politics, but that mod is hilarious af

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>>5421469
I expected nothing and I'm still disappointed.

I'll still wait for a trailer, but I seriously think this is just simply going to be awful.

The Original Evil Dead movie was made on a budget of about $350,000, approximately 900k adjusting for inflation, and became an instant classic horror film made by a largely unknown filmmaker and unknown actors at the time while utilizing traditional film effects that still look good to this day.

This easily has a larger budget, larger names attached both in terms of producers, writers, and actors, and will fail hilariously with terrible dialog, acting, and poor visual effects that I'm sure will be dated CGI and look terrible to begin with, only progressively looking worse over time.

Not to mention Evil Dead even got a damned theater release. I'll be surprised if this actually does.

Doom EASILY has the source material to become a thriller/dark comedy on par with the original Evil Dead and it's sequels, a thing that also inspired some aspects the original fucking game.

>> No.5421925

>>5421485
Don't let the retards get you down.

>> No.5421969

>>5421841
iirc 3.4.1's the minimum requirement for Guncaster anyway so go with that.

>> No.5421980

>>5421924
>This easily has a larger budget, larger names attached both in terms of producers, writers, and actors,
false on all those regards, everyone involved is less talented and prolific than Sam Raimi and Bruce Campbell, and the production company only does straight to dvd movies so there's that.

>> No.5421982

>>5421469
The squad finds out doomguy is in stasis somewhere on the base and they go and wake him up to unfuck it, as a twist on doom 4's intro.
this is a doom 4 movie much like the 2005 doom movie was a doom 3 one. keep in mind the director has said that doomguy is in the movie in some fashion.

screencap this

>> No.5421983

>>5421982
shove your screencaps up your butt.

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>>5421983
not before i put my foot in yours

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This is surprisingly very well-made despite the limitations. Most of these maps have kicked my ass several times in a row before I manage to finally complete them.

>> No.5422004

>>5421980
I mean in comparison to the release time of Evil Dead.

In 1983, Sam Rami was nothing.

>DOOM: ANNIHILATION was written and directed by Tony Giglio (Chaos, Timber Falls), was executive produced by Lorenzo Di Bonaventura (Bumblebee) and John Wells (Animal Kingdom), and is produced by Jeffery Beach (Jarhead 3: The Siege), Phillip Roth (Death Race: Beyond Anarchy) and Ogden Gavanski (Cult of Chucky).

While I don't care about any of the mentioned works in that, it's a lot more to stand on that Rami had in 1983.

>> No.5422007

>>5421604
make sectors tool?

>> No.5422008

>>5421469
Why do people do this? Hot garbage.

>> No.5422009

>>5421924
whenever i think of adapting doom into anything, i feel like it could either be a violent animated series or even a cgi movie like the resident evil ones
doom is too crazy for a live action adaption

>> No.5422012

>>5422004
>Lorenzo Di Bonaventura
hey, this same guy worked on the 2005 film.

>> No.5422017

>>5422004
>I mean in comparison to the release time of Evil Dead.
and I'm saying all those people are less talented than him. budget is like the least important part if you know what you're doing as shown by him. those people have done things LOWER than Evil Dead, look at all those straight to dvd works.

>> No.5422029

>>5422009
I kind of agree. The only way Doom would easily make a solid adaptation to live-action would be from following 80's-90's action/horror movie standards.

But an animated take would be super interesting to see, especially if following 80's-90's animation standards. Not the cheap kind though.

>>5422012
>Producer
Well, fuck.

>>5422017
I'm not sure you get my point or maybe I'm not doing the best job at compressing my argument into a small post.

It's not about the talent and it's not about how poor the material in their past work is.

It's about how the team working on this have way more genuine experience than a mostly independent team had in 1983.

>> No.5422031

>>5421813
Unreals not too hard. Blood is, like>>5421831 said. Duke3d on harder difficulties is particularly hard for me for some reason. I can't get a bead on the AI's patterns.
To be honest most older shooters are pretty similar in terms of difficulty.

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>>5421469
Video Game movies suck eggs but this might shape up to be better than the 2005 one. We have not seen it in motion nor have we seen any non zombie monsters. If everything goes right this will be a forgettable movie with 2 good parts instead of one.

>> No.5422038

>>5421485
Take a break and try something new anon. Stay in good health

>> No.5422041

>>5421980
You know what special effects company would be good for a Doom movie, is Amalgamated Dynamics. The practical shit they did for the 2011 "The Thing" was terrific before the producers forced them to shit all over it.
I want more of that. The behind the scenes are scarier than the entire movie ended up being.

>> No.5422042

>>5421924
Evil Dead was still basically remade in Evil Dead 2, which is the one a lot of people think of when they think of the three, even over Army of Darkness.

That said, there was an awful lot more of a market for people doing something new and shit naturally succeeding if it was good, unlike the shit we get now of rehashing something two to four decades old and throwing all the big names and marketing they can find at it.

>> No.5422048

>>5422041
all their works since have been CGI though.

>> No.5422049

>>5422041
The inherent problem with practical effects is they're complicated and can be expensive compared to shite CGI, so if you get some asshat in charge who only cares about quick money and not making something that'll age well then it'll get CGI everywhere.

>> No.5422054

>>5422048
Not entirely. A lot of their stuff prior was painted over with CG too. It's a pattern in their history.
CGI has a place bit is so overused I'm beginning to hate it.

>> No.5422062

>>5422041
They don't do practical effects anymore. Nobody in Hollywood wants that anyways.

>> No.5422065

>>5422054
>Not entirely. A lot of their stuff prior was painted over with CG too.
they look like CGI so it's irrelevant if there's practical stuff underneath, all their movies since look like videogames.

>> No.5422083

>>5422036
> rood dood rodoomption

>> No.5422162

>>5421813
Blood is pretty hard, but it also has a logic to it, and it gets less hard when you get used to that.
The second highest difficulty is quite brutal, and the highest difficulty is actually designed with the idea of co-op play; it's so hard you weren't really meant to play it solo.

>> No.5422258

>>5421924
>while utilizing traditional film effects that still look good to this day
I like Evil Dead, it's a good movie, but a bunch of those effects were not all exactly top notch. Like the claymation effects near the end, some of those are pretty rough to look at.

A better example would be like, Hellraiser, done on £1 000 000 and directed by a writer with basically no experience, who ends up knocking it out of the park. The costume, makeup, and effects, are all gorgeous, and look great to this day.

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>>5421924
>effects that still look good to this day.
No.

>> No.5422302

What's the most beautiful looking wad you've played /doom/ ? for me I think its gotta be ancient aliens

>> No.5422317

>>5422065
Harbinger Down was all practical aside from comping out rigs.

>> No.5422330
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Has the guy (oooor gal) who was doing the Genesis FPS engine posted recently? Was enjoying their updates. Iirc they had classes to focus on or some such.

Pic unrelated, i just don't have many pics in my phone.

>> No.5422349

>>5422302
Crucified Dreams

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>>5422262
Eviternity. Not only the maps have detailed architecture, but they have so much unique atmosphere, that they become worlds full of (unwritten) lore. It's also amazing, that these maps aren't made for GZdoom, but are still boom-compatible.

By the way, are the any other wads with heaven themed maps (not the same texture pack, but completily different takes)?

>> No.5422368

>>5422362
Fug. I meant >>5422362 as a reply to >>5422302

>> No.5422372

>>5422362
Hellground

>> No.5422383

>>5422262
Fits right in with the rubber CGI of today

>> No.5422510

>>5420991
Hey plague

>> No.5422519

>>5422258
That's really a fair point. I was mostly looking at Evil Dead because of it's far lower budget.

To be honest, it's been a good few years since I've watched it and kinda forgot how dated some of it has actually become .

>>5422262
Alright, you got me with that scene. Some scenes and effects do still hold fairly well though.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GKR5KdHPiSI

Evil Dead 2 does so a lot better, however it had a budget well over $3,000,000.

>> No.5422521

>>5421026
>>5421049
>>5422510
Not a valid argument. Try again.
>INB4 MUH BIBLE says X
>INB4 MUH KORAN says Y

>> No.5422553

Anyone ever tried 1Monster?

>> No.5422560

>>5422521
TEKWAR IS SHIT
SHIIIIT

>> No.5422564

>>5422560
PPPPHHHHHHBT!

>> No.5422583

>>5420983
Hideous Halfstructor
Hideous Realstructor
Hideous Redstructor
Hideous Shockstructor
Hideous Sinstructor

>> No.5422661

>>5422583
Hideous Callstructor of Dutyructor

>> No.5422708

>>5416921
>>5416971
Weren't Slayer Chronicles able to be played with gameplay mods?
I guess the closest to something i want seems to be an otherwise sloppy project.

>> No.5422767

>>5422302
BTSX for me. Compared to Boom and GZDoom wads, it might not be the most technically impressive. But, I've always had more respect for it's visuals, as it produces a very modern look, while staying within vanilla engine limits. Also means it never chugs while playing in software renderer for me, which is a bonus.

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>>5420162
>>5420163
I did the debut release of the map pack finally!
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=42&t=53887

Well for now it is just the Titlemap and the first map that is huge, but the next update will have at least more 3 maps.

>> No.5422817

>>5420969
An HD equivalent for Quake could probably work well given the smaller monster headcount.

>> No.5422931

>>5422816
turn off texture filtering you goober.

>> No.5422936

>>5421420
So there's no new weapons or classes to the main, just rather being a quality of life + bugfix update? Still neat though.

>> No.5422950

>>5422931
quake 3 arena used linear texturing filters so I wager he's taking after that look.

>> No.5423068

>>5421485
We don't know who you are.
Give us a name.

>> No.5423093

>>5422816
Neat!

>> No.5423217

>>5423068
john romero

>> No.5423239

>>5423217
i killed you in doom 2
i don't regret it

>> No.5423248

>>5422936
no new classes
some new uniques
some reworked effects on uniques
ROTT launcher is fucking batshit crazy
quicksave before you pull the trigger

>> No.5423271

Boys do I buy Doom 3 on steam or Doom 3 BFG?

Also is Final Doom worth it?

>> No.5423371

I just beat the hive of the mantits on turok 2, talk about fucking aids dude
everything is a bullet sponge all the projectile enemies have a high velocity and tracking
the ammo respawns but eh map is so big you cant backtrack 10 minutes when you need more
some enemies respawn and the level is a massive labyrinth

>> No.5423376

>>5423271
I got bfg, I hated it till I watched a stream of the first like hour or 2 then i restarted and loved it
I hear the the og version is just bfg without a proper flash light.
I think it would be easier to get bfg since they dont sell the regular on steam anymore and I think the only way to play some of the dlc (which is ok) is on the bfg version

>> No.5423395

>>5422816
Wew lad, it's a pretty map but I can barely run it.

>> No.5423408

>>5423271
>>5423376
BFG also introduces some texture compression artifacts here and there and there are also more graphic mod for the og
And the flashlight was one of the first things modded into the OG, and BFG copied it from there.

>> No.5423443
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5423443

>>5420969
How comes there isn't any bunny mod yet?

>> No.5423460

>>5423371
This is the weakest point of the game. It is retarded unbalanced.

>> No.5423501

>>5423271
>Also is Final Doom worth it?
How much do you like Revenants and Chaingunners? That is how you decide if you go through Final Doom.

>> No.5423508

give me the rundown on nblood. worth switching from gdx?

>> No.5423524

>>5423371
Hope you're using that charge dart rifle and focusing on headshots

>> No.5423534
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5423534

>>5423524
of course, the head shot.
on this little cocaine ninjas

>> No.5423537

>>5423534
Then use the flamethrower, kills them instantly

>> No.5423539

>>5422816
That's nice. looks so early 2000s, with far worse performance

>> No.5423549

>>5420969
A Hideous Elfstructor was in the works for a bit called Synthetic Deities, it's neat but unfinished and abandoned

>> No.5423553

>>5423537
it does not, and you dont get too much ammo for that
not on the fly anyways

>> No.5423557

>>5423443
Because furries would latch on and make it weird.

>> No.5423580

When do you lads use the plasma rifle? I hoard cells too much and often end up never using it if the chaingun has ammo.

>> No.5423581

>>5423580
Usually if I have a bunch of ammo and sometimes I have to rush from a point to another and there are various enemies and I have plenty of cells to use on my plasma gun is when I use it. Usually many tough enemies around like Mancubi, Revenants, Cacos, Pain Elementals with Lost Souls abound, and Barons of Hell.

>> No.5423583

>>5420969
>Hideous Dukestructor
>Episode 1 map 1
>Open the vent
>Fall
>Press space to restart

>> No.5423584

>>5423371
I stopped playing the game at that point. Right from the start I knew it was going to be a bad level, and it'd just taint the amazing experience of just having completed Lair of the Blind Ones

>> No.5423586

>>5423271
Final Doom is great.

>> No.5423587

>>5423584
I gotta say the first bit was crazy fun I especially loved the death marshes

>> No.5423591

>>5423271
Doom 3 + Redux mod.

>> No.5423592

>>5423580
Fighting strong individual monsters, or having to blast through a horde without having the BFG.

>> No.5423594

>>5423581
>>5423592
I'll try to be better about using it when appropriate. I've gotten some deaths that could have been prevented if I hadn't been so stubborn about not using up the cells.

>> No.5423652

Hey, /vr/os.
Iiiiaaah was wondering.
Is Doom3 - or at least some particular levels in it - pistolstartable?

>> No.5423654
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5423654

Alright people, it's SCREENSHOT SATURDAY. I know a few of you have some shit they show the class, so let's see what you got for us, maps, mods, sprites?

>> No.5423664

>>5423654
I'm done with making sprites for Doom since I got banned here and in four other boards

>> No.5423665

>>5423501
IMO, besides like 5-6 levels (two of which being the secret levels), The revenant usage isn't even that bad.

>> No.5423669

>>5423664
What the fuck were you making sprites of?

>> No.5423672

>>5423669
half-naked daemon girls

>> No.5423690

>>5423672
Screw the bans, get posting!!!

>> No.5423692

>>5423271
BFG edition fucks up both 3, the RoE expansions and the older games

>> No.5423698
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5423698

>>5423654
Finally finished a shitty map I've been working on today after having some troubles with map glitches. I'm still ironing some stuff out but I'm happy it's at least in a playable state.

>> No.5423707

>>5423672
You the dude that made the gatling hyena?

>> No.5423712
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5423712

>>5423707
I was gonna ask the same.

also if you are can you post a pic with a larger resolution? Asking for a friend haha.

>> No.5423739

Does anyone else get sick when playing Turok on N64? It's literally the only game that does that to me but I haven't tried it in 5+ years. It didn't make me sick as a kid but last time I played it I had to turn the game off and lay down. I think it's the nasty FoV, you guys think the PC version might fare a little better for me?

>> No.5423741
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5423741

>>5423654
have some stankyness

>> No.5423749
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5423749

>>5423664
>>5423672

Do what I do, add censor/tactical crops to hide the naughty
and if you really wanna show the naughties, hide it behind a link to imgur or something and spoiler the link
That tends to do the trick if it is related to the topic but too lood for blue board

>> No.5423763

>>5420163
>Wrath
The gameplay video really didn't impress me all that much. Enemies seem boring, and theres not much variety to them. Hoping that's just easy mode.

>> No.5423765

>>5423271
Literally the only thing worth it in BFG, is that its the only legal way to own nerve.wad on PC. And I'm sure it's easy to find a download of it anyway.

>> No.5423779

>>5423271
Buy BFG to get No Rest For The Living. The price is worth the wad alone.

Final Doom is definedly worth it. Later half of Evilution has some quite dated gameplay as in both gameplay and visuals. Maps are still better than in vanilla Doom 2 though. But the Plutonia is the real reason to buy Final Doom. The gameplay still feels fresh and challenging. And it's challenging in a good way, as there is no artificial difficulty or slaughter maps. Map32 is quite a slaughter map though, but I still find it fun even though I don't like slaughter maps. It's visuals still look great and the new texture pack is quite nice with it's jungle theme. It's real classic, and imo the best of official Doom releases.

>> No.5423820

>>5423580
Plasma is great against Cybers and Masterminds if you're missing the BFG. Even if you have the BFG, it could still prove more useful if they're in a spot that doesn't let you get up close to them to get them to eat all the tracers.

>> No.5423864

Here in this post I whine about shitty ZDoom documentation.

>> No.5423903
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5423903

>>5423864
I'm still wondering how the fuck ZScript barely had any documentation on its formal release. How does this shit even happen?

>> No.5423910

>>5423864
Here, I'll post the ZScript documentation for you.
>

>> No.5423926

>>5423903
The Arrogance.
>>5423910
Thank you, Graf Zahl/Nash, you're so cool, I can feel my dick getting harder because of your awesomeness! I learned so much!

>> No.5423932

Why don't you ask why ZScript has little documentation instead of pointlessly whining and circlejerking?

>> No.5423936

>>5423932
I was actually talking about ACS and DECORATE.

>> No.5423947

>>5423936
so what is preventing you from still just asking

>> No.5423948

>>5423947
Why ACS and DECORATE are so poorly documented?

>> No.5423961

>>5423948
> https://zdoom.org/wiki/DECORATE
> https://zdoom.org/wiki/ACS

>> No.5423963

>>5423961
That doesn't make it a good documentation.

>> No.5423967

>>5423963
then what the fuck are you expecting
or are you here to whine for whinings sake

>> No.5423968

>>5423967
I'm expecting a proper documentation.

>> No.5423970
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5423970

>>5421195
I now have GZDOOM 3.4.1, and STILL no luck with Guncaster beyond the loading screen.

>> No.5423971

have you guys played postal 2? whuddya think?

>> No.5423973

>>5423961
Zandronum forums>Doomworld>>>Zdaemon>>Every other Doom forum site>>Zdoom

>> No.5423978

>>5423971
This can't be good for me but I feel great!

>> No.5423983

>>5423973
>zandronum forums>Doomworld>>>Zdaemon>>Every other Doom forum site
> for decorate/acs documentation

>> No.5424070

>>5423971
7 angry parents out of 10

>> No.5424078

>>5423971
I get way too much enjoyment going into someone's house and peeing on all their things *except* the toilet.

>> No.5424084

>>5423970
That event handler function was added in 3.6.0

>> No.5424121

I think that level-design can be compared to martial arts to an extent.
There are people who do their own thing, end up influencing those around them, depending on how many people they managed to influence, they might establish a certain movement, a "school" of level-design of sorts. Point in case: Allen Blum, who pretty much established how "proper" Duke Nukem 3D map should look and feel like. Then there are people who explicitly join already established movements/schools, and vehemently practice acting like someone else (the person who founded the "school") would. Then there are people who aim at establishing their own movements, but are frauds and plagiarists, who actually know about what they are doing way less than they pretend to, and present their quote/memespeak as their genuine mapping style - but get a pass as long as it looks superficially cool or sophisticated. Then there are complete braindead retards, who produce mapping equivalents of child's scribbles (they could waste 2 hours or 200 hours on a single map, doesn't matter, it will still be incoherent barely playable mess), and, at the end of the day, are hopelessly clumsy and tone-deaf.

Something like that.

>> No.5424132

>>5424121
I'm not reading this.

>> No.5424135

>>5424078
"Do you piss in your wife's mouth like that?"

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>>5424121

>> No.5424148
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5424148

Should I take the plunge on this?

>> No.5424153

>>5424148
>$5123
are you sure?

>> No.5424167

>>5424132
Good to know.

>> No.5424169

>>5424148

Do it Mr moneybags

>> No.5424172

>>5424121
I think that to classify people is not the way to go.

>> No.5424184

>>5424148
>$5,123
for what purpose

also just go to the toys markdown center to find toys and games at low prices

>> No.5424292
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5424292

>>5423654
Got a revamped gauntlet altfire, still working out the visuals but I think I have the basic idea down.

>> No.5424297

>>5424292
thatsafart.png

>> No.5424302

>>5424292
an animation of the player punching the floor?

>> No.5424305

>>5424292
I'm sorry but to me it looks like the player character's having sudden stomach pain/sickness before the attack

>> No.5424307

>>5424302
Zapping the floor to create a shockwave. I just used the ground lightning from hexen as a filler until I can come up with something better, its mostly to visualize how the damage travels.

>> No.5424309

>>5424292
its really not clear exactly what the player is doing, and forcing the view down is disorienting

>> No.5424312

>>5424305
The idea is to have them crouch and touch the floor before releasing the shockwave and standing up. I'm trying to think of how to make that movement more natural in first person

>> No.5424317

>>5424292
this just makes me dizzy, don't like it.

>> No.5424324
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5424324

Here's a version without the tilt. I'd like to make it more dynamic but I can see the concerns on the forced pitch change.

>> No.5424325

>>5424307
it doesn't convey the effect

>> No.5424327

>>5424324
it's not the pitch, I think you need to express something with your hands

>> No.5424330

>>5424327
Without changing the pitch, you won't see your hands even go to the floor though. Are you suggesting something like lightning between the two hands as they travel down offscreen? Might be able to try that.

>> No.5424334

>>5424330
I'm telling you to not remove the pitch

>> No.5424340

>>5424324
it looks like he's squatting.

>> No.5424358

>>5424340
The original idea was something like squatting or taking a knee, but apparently its not conveying well in first person. Going to try redoing it with a ground punch like someone suggested.

>> No.5424359

>>5424324
After the effect comes out, do a massive ThrustThingZ to send him flying upwards.

BRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAP

>> No.5424367

Can anyone hook a brother up with a No Rest For The Living wad? I'm gonna get the older Doom 3 and just get Nerve.wad elsewhere.

>> No.5424369

>>5424324
> i'm a woodpecker
> except for dirt

>> No.5424381

One russian idiot made an asset-flip game in UE4 which he called by a name "DooM".

He sells it on Steam:
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1036920/DooM_in_the_Dark/

On one russian forum it was discovered that he had used only pre-made UE4 assets. Also he was reacting like an asshole to any criticism in comments. Where should I write a complaint to Bethesda for violating trademark law? Would a one person complaint be enough to take this shit down?

>> No.5424412 [DELETED] 

>>5424381
blyat my game is good youre just envious of soviet design skill

>> No.5424415
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5424415

>>5424302
Something like this?

>> No.5424416

>>5424412
What about polish skills?

>> No.5424425 [DELETED] 

>>5424416
cyka i work whole month on DOom in ddark very ploish, i go no food whole month. stultify

>> No.5424428

>>5424425
You should't have called it "DooM". It's a Bethesda/id Software trademark. Rename your game or it will be taken down from Steam.

>> No.5424434
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5424434

>new DRLA update works best with gzdoom version released 3 years ago
>none of my autoloaded mods are compatible

>> No.5424447

>>5424415
why is there a golden dorf

>> No.5424450

>>5424447
On the left? Thats the stoneskin spell indicator. it slows you down considerably but gives you a good amount of damage resist while active.

>> No.5424459

>>5424434
Use a new devbuild. The pitch issue got fixed so DRLA works fine.

>> No.5424461

>Quake 2 starts getting fast and frantic as fuck after the pyramid boss
>blazing around making tons of progress playing for a solid hour but forgetting to save
>accidnetally fall into lava pool you cant get out of

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

>> No.5424468

>>5424461
> cheats

>> No.5424469

>>5424381
This is an unfortunate phenomenon of game making. Throw as much shit as possible on the wall and hope that some of it sticks. He will properly never get financially compensated for the invested time, as too many creators of shovelshit do the same.

>> No.5424471

>>5424461
On a similar note, how is Q2's movement different from Q3's? From what I can tell/remember the strafejumping feels somewhat similar.

>> No.5424473

>>5424415
What's this? Looks nice.

>> No.5424479

>>5424461
HUH

>> No.5424487

>>5424473
Heretical Doom. I'm trying to make it less of a meme and more balanced/refined.

>> No.5424494
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5424494

>>5423739
Might as well, Nightdive is pretty cool about keeping things authentic

>> No.5424502
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5424502

Death Messenger - 4 maps pack for Doom 2. Found it on ModDB. The maps are good, but all other factors make me suspicious. It's hard to believe that someone who made such complex maps are that sloppy, stupid and tasteless (pic strongly relevant) in all other aspects. Anybody played it? What's your thoughts?

>> No.5424507

>>5424487
>>5424415
you need to make weapons to be more distinct, more magical and less pew-pew-lasery.

>> No.5424512

>>5424461
Doesnt it autosave every time you go to a different level in the unit?

>> No.5424518

>>5424469
>He will properly never get financially compensated

Even worse projects on Steam get compensated because of these achievements thing in Steam.

Also for Russia/Ukraine it is still a big money to sell shovelshit like this. The living is cheaper there.

The guy who sells this game is evidently using a "Doom" trademark to promote his shit and should be reported to Bethesda so they will shut his shit down. The word "Doom" is even written as "DooM" to resemble original game's logo.

>> No.5424520

>>5424494
I swear to god if it isn't 60fps

>> No.5424524

>>5424512
I think autosave is turned off to increase those little transitional area loading times on my switch

>> No.5424526

>>5424507
pew pew laser magic is good, though, fight me

>> No.5424531

Anyone else tried out that quake movement mod for doom? I cant find the github link for the life of me, but it's pretty fun trying out different movement styles from each quake game. Wish it worked on more gameplay wads I try it with tho, but it is a prototype after all.

>> No.5424532

>>5424471
Quakeworld and quake 3 are faster than q2. That's all movement, and spamming rox and pills etc. Q3 was a return back to qw values, as many qw players disliked the slightly more sedate pace of q2

>> No.5424535

>>5424526
pew pew laser and magic is bad, fite me m8

>> No.5424541

>>5424415
what about just opening the hand and touching the floor with the palm?

>> No.5424542

>>5424518
I've received this critique in the past, but I honestly don't know what to make of it. The weapons are quite a bit more different from one another than they are in vanilla heretic, and I recently removed the tracers and made them a non-default option. I'll admit they started very samey (especially in Brutal Heretic where the mod branched from) but has this not been addressed in the newer versions?

I'm genuinely curious, like if I'm making changes in the wrong direction or its just a criticism I outright don't understand.

>> No.5424549

>>5424542
meant to quote
>>5424507

>> No.5424590
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5424590

>>5424535
i'll fukken deck u m8

>> No.5424617

I wish you could disable weapons form being selected. Like the first version of a weapon obviously becomes useless once I get the 2nd version so I wish I could turn it off from being selectable altogether.

Why would I need the solo grenades when I have the grenade launcher for example? Or the single shotty when you get the super shotty?

>> No.5424619

>>5424381
There's actually quite a lot of that on Steam. Valve doesn't do a particularly good job curating it.

>> No.5424626

>>5424532
>>5424471
q2 and q3 movement values are mostly the same (ground friction 6, air acceleration 1, max air speed 320)
the biggest difference is in how they handle z velocity when jumping off ramps, and when you already have a velocity. q2 adds to your z veloicty when jumping and has you jump higher when moving up a ramp (same as q1 actually, hut q1 has no midair step height so you can't really double jump in that game), while q3 sets your z velocity to your jump velocity, removing the ability to do double jumps and ramp jumps (for height anyway)

>> No.5424645
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5424645

>>5424617

>> No.5424673

>>5424590
counter argument:
magic good but lasers are for scifi

>> No.5424674

>>5423271
If you have a VR headset BFG is worth it for the Fully Possessed mod alone. I was never a Doom 3 hater, but it make the game go from good to great for me. One of the best VR games, and it's not even a real VR game. Can't recommend it enough.

If not, I'd just get Doom 3's original release and mod it.

>> No.5424676

>>5424617
Super shotgun can't snipe from across the room like the regular shotgun.

>> No.5424686

>>5424645
this image gets better every time I see it

>> No.5424689

>>5424617
>Or the single shotty when you get the super shotty?
/doom/ gets worse everyday.

>> No.5424695

>>5424689
>>5424676
I was talking about Quake but still applies for most FPS. Lots of games have weapons become obsolete and I wish you could toggle them off

>> No.5424709

>>5424695
>I was talking about Quake
so the sniping argument is even more applicable?

>> No.5424710
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5424710

Is there such a thing as too many secrets? There's SO many secrets in some of the Arcane Dimensions maps that it feels like they're the primary focus. You can beat maps with tens or even hundreds of enemies left alive if you miss the secrets. So you finish the map yet you don't feel like you ACTUALLY finished it, you need to go back and search carefully. I've heard people complain about Ion Maiden having too many as well.

>> No.5424723
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5424723

yholl thats it IM CALLING THE POLICE

>> No.5424727

>>5424673
Why not both?

>> No.5424730

>>5421019
I always figured a soulsphere was a human soul, and a megasphere was a demon.

>> No.5424732

>>5424710
Secrets with enemies in them were a mistake.

>> No.5424737

>>5421358
Imagine an enemy that consecutively fires every other enemy in the game until there's none left.

>> No.5424741

>>5424710
There is absolutely such a thing, as map, that simply doesn't have any coherent point to it.

>> No.5424742

>>5424737
WHAT IF THE ENEMY FIRES YOU
WHAT IF YOU FIRES THE ENEMY
SO MANY QUESTIONS
SO LITTLE ANSEWRS

>> No.5424745

>>5422001
Rule-based mapsets like this are some of my favorites, honestly.

>> No.5424746

>>5424494
Huh, I wasn't familiar with the name but good to hear they seem to be doing a good job.

>> No.5424748

>>5422262
Is she a clown or something?

>> No.5424751

>>5424741
And that you meander about and fuck around in not because it was mapper's point for you to meander and fuck around there, but because there is genuinely no single intended point for you to be there at all.

>> No.5424752
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5424752

>>5423371
>mantits

>> No.5424753

Is it only Doomworld Forums or Doom community in general really thinks "Ultraviolence or GTFO"? I mean - it's not like every Doomer is a hardcore player loving to punch Cyberdemons without berserk. How many of you play good old Doom just for fun and not for Dark Souls level of teeth-grinding challenge?

>> No.5424757

>>5423580
I use it to shred pain elementals up close. When it explodes into lost souls they're already being shot at.

>> No.5424758

>>5424753
People who play below UV are less than human.

>> No.5424762

>>5424752
*mantids
but mantits is better :DDDDD

>> No.5424763

>>5424757
That is
actually smart.

updatedmyjournal.jpg

>> No.5424768

>>5424494
Better let you turn all the motion blur and bloom stuff off like on the PC version

>> No.5424770

>>5424758
Agreed, folks who play on Nightmare are fucking animals.

>> No.5424775

>>5424695
Single Shotgun and Nailgun for weaker enemies depending on the ammo type to conserve, Super Shotgun for point-blank death dealing, Super Nailgun for rapid fire mincemeat of something you need dead really fast, Grenade Launcher for enemies with tricky positions, Rocket Launcher for targets that aren't too close and need to die hard, and Lightning Gun for deathdeathdeath.

The "upgrades" do better damage output at the cost of being more situational, risky, or in the Super Nailgun's case, ammo hogs. The weaker versions remain in your selection because every gun has its uses. About the closest to an outright replacement is the Super Shotgun, and only because Quake's levels aren't that open so you'll get more bang for your buck usually popping at enemies with the Super than with the Single, but Single still has range advantages.

>> No.5424787

Idea for a mapset: every enemy type is represented in each map but only one for each type
>one zombiemen, then one shotgunner, then one imp etc

>> No.5424789

>>5424763
You're welcome!

>> No.5424790

>>5424775
>About the closest to an outright replacement is the Super Shotgun
Not in the slightest. Shotgun is awesome for sniping due to being hitscan and not having cutoff distance (like lightning does).
The ordinary nailgun however IS pretty fucking useless once you get supernailgun.

>> No.5424791

>>5424770
the post used the word "below".

>> No.5424793

Where can I get a DL of cyberrunner?

>> No.5424796

>>5424791
Thank you, Captain Obvious. Or, rather, more like Captain Oblivious. Nightmare difficulty is literally below Ultraviolence. Not, GTFO of here, you noob you who never even seen Doom menu.

>> No.5424797

>>5424768
We'll know when it comes out
Just wait a week

>> No.5424806

>>5424732
Well, I wouldn't go that far. It's fun when you get a secret weapon or powerup and then are presented with the perfect opportunity to use said acquisition.

>> No.5424814

Trying to convert the .mus files in iwads to midi or mp3 (ultimately to mp3) for use with the prboom core in retroarch (for my Wii U). I know I can download the music from the internet, but I wanted a method to do it myself for pwads / expansion iwads, which don't have the music in original filename format.

Any suggestions? I've tried audacity, but it won't read them. There's a utility called mmus2mid.exe out there but the guy who designed it (Jim Flynn, actually a big name in the doom community) died last year and his website isn't up anymore.

>> No.5424815

>>5424814
>which don't have the music in original filename format.


I meant to say, wouldn't have the music in filename format if I could even find them online in the first place.

>> No.5424818

>>5424814
slade 3 can convert mus to midi

>> No.5424819

>>5424818
>slade 3

Oh shit. And I used slade to export them as .mus files and everything. *facepalm* thanks anon

>> No.5424823
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>>5424753
UV isn't that bad.

My zoomer cousin switched to UV after a few days of playing.

>> No.5424828

>>5424787
1Monster. enjoy

>> No.5424829

>>5424742
>>5424737
>>5421358
>>5421354

fractal.pk3

>> No.5424847

>>5424710
play wolfenstein 3d

>> No.5424854

>>5422816
>This map features a lot of ambient sounds throught its entire decorations to give a more depth in immersion, GZDoom by default has only 256 sound channels avaliable to play sounds in the game, but the number of ambient sounds features in the map surpass this value (the map has around 850 sound emmiters), it is recommended to set up the sound channel limit to 1024 at least for better experience, you can do that by typing snd_channels 1024 and then snd_reset in the console before playing the map.

I really didn't understand this, do you have 850 sounds playing at the same time?, they are supposed to activate and deactivate when they are near or far the player, this is insane

(I'm not into doom modding)

>> No.5424875

>>5424823
Never told it is. It just bugging me to no limits - comments like "well, the architecture is good but gameplay is too easy". Like, what the fuck? Or that thing with slaughtermaps - "it's not a slaughtermap, even casual player can easily beat it on HMP" - and then it's actually fucking metric ton of enemies dropping on you like a bridge in very tight spaces, with Cybies and Archviles coming in dozens, making Plutonia's "Revenants & Chaingunners" looking like walk in the park. And it's on HNTR. The fuck it is for casual players. The fuck it's not a slaughtermap. Difficulty settings are there for a reason - to provide each for his own. UV is not, never intended to and should not be the standard setting. Especially since source ports, where you can easily turn on fast enemies if you want a challenge but don't want Nightmare's respawns. And then there are mods letting you reduce health/ammo or increase number of enemies or fucking both. But no, bitches be like "why it's so easy". The fuck?

>> No.5424897
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>>5423654

>> No.5424907
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>TRIAD CANNON

>> No.5424919

What are your favorite MIDI soundfonts for playing Doom?

>> No.5424923

I heard that john remaros new doom wad sigil is going to have a free version
does anyone know where to get it and what version of doom it will run on?

>> No.5424939

>>5424923
epic exclusive

>> No.5424940
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5424940

>>5423654
I wish GZDoom would stop locking up my whole computer, makes mapping a drag.

also who needs to practice geometry when you can dazzle your audience with the same gimmick over and over again

>> No.5424941

>>5424939
please sir, I fear for my life

>> No.5424959

>>5424923
P sure it is free. The pay version is just if you want the box and disc etc.

Wonder if it'll have a new story, or what.

>> No.5424969

The five greatest maps in Ultimate Doom:

E4M6: This is the best easily, a great reimagination of E4M2, which was kinda cramped and annoying (yet, still the second best in episode 4). Love the map's puzzle style progression and the hyde and seek with the cyb, I expect Sigil to be something like this.

E1M3: Legendary level with introducing the pinky (and the shotgunner on lower skills), full of interesting secrets, and great layout overall.

E2M2: Not a huge fan of Hall/Petersen, but this deserves credit for being so utterling fun. The crate maze was done very well, and the rest of the map is full of exploration.

E1M7: Complex layout, lot's of nonlinear areas, actually the meaty epitome of episode 1. Not much else to say, it's just fun.

E2M6: Petersen did a real horrific level, which I hated as a kid, but love now, for being very characteristic. The dark hallways and the fake exit all added to the map's psychedelic feel.

E3 has no winners, sorry.

>> No.5424970

>>5424969
>utterling
utterly

>> No.5424980

>>5424969
I've yet to understand why people seem to like Containment Area so much.

>> No.5424998

>>5424969
Mt. Erebus does not deserve this kind of insulting

>> No.5425002

>>5424980
1st, same reasons why ware-/storehouse scenes are popular in horror/action movies. It's this "hunter-hunted" atmosphere. Like, suddenly - an enemy right in ya face! But if you knew what's what, then it's reverse - surprise, motherfucker!
2nd, because of being perfect example of Doom's architecture style. On the plan (automap) it looks quite reasonable - rectangular rooms, straight corridors, 90 degrees turns. But in reality, it's pure nonsense, nothing of it seems reasonable. Like, crushers in corridor? Pool of dangerous liquid with crossword-like bridge? And who in their sane mind stores boxes like this anyway? Don't ask questions, it's Doom, shut up and play.

>> No.5425009

>>5424907
> drum hit "bwong" pickup sound
> what does this button do?
> everything fucking explodes for the cost of only 4 rockets
> including you
> especially you

>> No.5425024

>>5425009
This is exactly what happened to me.

>> No.5425068

>>5424745
If only anon-based speedmap projects held on an imageboard were better. My contribution to the last project was hardly worth a shit anyway. Do we have any more reviews for 100 Minutes of /vr/?

>> No.5425075

>>5424753
I think it comes from the fact that most mapmakers design their maps with UV in mind, as if it's the way to play the map that the designer intended. I believe Romero said this; correct me if I'm wrong. For the other difficulty levels, the designers just toggle things on and off, such as less monsters and more/special pickups only being available depending on the difficulty, such as more health pickups on lower difficulties for example or something like that.

In reality though, UV isn't "too" bad all things considered, except for poorly designed maps.

>> No.5425085

>>5424923
Sigil will be released to download, when boxes should arrive to their owners, some day on April. It's 100% same Sigil wad than the boxed one, but without the Buckethead music. I'd expect download to be in Sigil website, but who knows if Romero will upload it to Doomworld. Maps themselves require only a limit removing source port, but since maps are in actual episode 5, so that original episodes don't get replaced, it might not run with anything else than Zdoom based ports (inc. original Zdoom and Zandronum). But I'm sure there will be some fan-made patch that lets you run maps on other source ports. But who knows, maybe Romero himself will do some zmapinfo wizardry, so that Sigil is episode 5 only in Zdoom ports, and replaces other episode in other ports. We will find out on April.

>> No.5425092

>>5424770
>>5424791
Well who knows. Maybe some nightmare players enjoy fucking animals. Who am I to judge.

>> No.5425094

>>5424753
Contrary to what you might think, No one or group ever said you're not allowed to lower the skill level. Hell, many pwads even recommend lowering the skill level if UV is too hard. The issue is more just that some people personally refuse to lower the skill level, because they found Doom 2 too easy on lower skill levels, or they believe they're missing the full experience if there's less enemies. It's generally a self-imposed thing.

>> No.5425097

>>5425085
I'm hoping that if it is an E5MX situation, that an Eternity patch gets made.

>> No.5425140

>>5425075
-sigh- For the love of God, if there is one, UV was used just as an example every Doomer should understand. Yes, it's not about UV. It's about overall tendency "you should play hardcore or you not even Doomer".
Don't remember Romero saying something like that. And judging from the fact that Nightmare difficulty was added later, I highly doubt that he could ever say that.
>>5425094
Contrary to what you think I'm thinking I'm not thinking about it. See above. I, for one, never start fresh WAD right on UV. But if it's, suddenly, hordes of monsters, in cramped space, in lock-ups, and it's like every damn room and not just some gimmicky/boss one-time event - than I'm calling shit. "Easy difficulty" means "easy", not "easy for slaughtermaps lovers".
It's like some people afraid of being called casual players. For fucks sake, it's Doom, this shit is old, no normies play it, so what if you're casual Doom player?

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>>5425140
>-sigh-

>> No.5425143

>>5425094
Worst ones are those who play only on UV, and then proceed to complain that the wad is too hard. I can understand the critism, if the wad had artificial difficulty, but some people complain even if UV has completily fair challenge. It's an ego thing. These kind of people pose, that they have the skill to play UV, and when they really don't have it, they blame the wad.

I play HMP and UV depending on the wad. I find completily ok, if the wad author decides to make the both difficulties harder than usually, so that I have to go HMP. I don't get any self-esteem damage, since I'm capable of realizing that playing for an example Sunlust on HMP, is not the same thing than playing vanilla Doom on HMP. It's kind of funny, since Sunlust on HMP still poses greater challenge than vanilla Doom on UV.

>> No.5425154

>>5425140
>no normies play it
I'm actually normie as fuck, but I'm also boomer, who has played this shit since the 90s.

>> No.5425198

>>5425154
Hello, you're on 4chan, you're clearly not normie.
GenX'er here. Played Doom in 90s as a kid (to the point where my dad was angry at me because I dare to progress further than he), returned to it almost decade ago.

>> No.5425209

>>5425198
>Hello, you're on 4chan, you're clearly not normie.
4chan has millions of hits per month and has an endless influx of people from other sites like reddit and twitter. Go to boards like /b/, /wsg/, /soc/, /int/ and /sp/ to see those people.

>> No.5425213

>>5423983
Here's to hoping that either Zandronum or PRBoom+ get better ACS support in the next update or 2.

>> No.5425216

>>5425209
PornHub also has millions of hits per month, but it's not like everybody regularly visiting it. And, like PornHub, 4chan also gets a healthy (intended) doze of this hits from other countries around the world.

>> No.5425220

>>5425216
>PornHub also has millions of hits per month, but it's not like everybody regularly visiting it.
Nigga, pornhub is the 6th most popular website in the US. That's the worst example you could come up with. Of course normies use the fuck out of it, it wouldn't be that popular otherwise.
> And, like PornHub, 4chan also gets a healthy (intended) doze of this hits from other countries around the world.
...what are you even trying to say here?

>> No.5425232

>>5424854
Yeah it is 850 ambient sounds playing, i thought the engine should do that typical thing of only starting to play them if the player is inside the minimum listen range but nope... the engine plays everything soon as the map starts and only changes their volumes whenever player enters in their attenuation ranges.

>> No.5425243

>>5424762
That's the Mancubus.

>> No.5425257

>>5425198
>you're clearly not normie.
Most of here would propably disagree.

Been here since 2005, when I was studying Computer Sciences. 75% of our class browsed 4chan back then, so even then 4chan didn't feel like any rare thing, but a normal part of "geek culture of 2005".

And yes I'm actually GenY'er, but since I'm 30... well you know that meme.

>> No.5425341
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tfw ywn play DRLA on the latest stable build of GZDoom because of this fuckface

>> No.5425346

>>5425341
fucking graf

>> No.5425347

>>5425140
>"Easy difficulty" means "easy", not "easy for slaughtermaps lovers".
Easy difficulty is relative to the wad's gameplay style. Playing on easy mode isn't going to suddenly make a slaughtermap no longer a slaughtermap. Its just going to make it an easier slaughtermap.

>> No.5425356

>>5425220
That there are /b/tards all around the world. Because every country has it's doze of weirdos.

>> No.5425360

>>5425257
>Computer Science
>implying that nerds are normies
Oh you.

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>>5425341
You see, this is the sort of thing consisting of ultimate terror. Just the mere viewing of such image should make you feel very uneasy. You have a set of very aloof eyes staring directly into your soul. It's a very uncanny sight, considering we've all had to take on the pain of Christoph's endless rejection and torment. It hurts enough just as it is. This is, at heart, the cruel punishment one can receive for having the audacity to make another split-screen multiplayer feature suggestion. It has literally been since 2004 that we have longed for such a feature. All of you should truly begin to understand that it has always meant so much to me to have what would seem like such an essential feature implemented in the source port! I've been waiting for something to change over the years. I've been waiting for that odious, heartless anomaly of a German to do something other than disappoint me in all the years and counting. It almost felt like I had a panic attack seeing this edit. It seems trauma has developed from the constant struggle over the years. While the whole lilith.pk3 controversy was happening last year, I was genuinely somewhat relieved to see him visibly in distress. It felt like for once, he could understand what it's like to experience any real form of displeasure. It had him so bothered that he went speechless for an entire month. It had the forum owner preemptively formulating a plan contingent upon him never returning! That's just how bad it was, and I was sitting back, hoping he never would. How sorely wrong I was. He's back, and so is my constant fear of his everlasting letdowns.

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>>5425341
>>5425346
It's a never ending struggle
If Yholl attempts to make it compatible, by the time he completes it, GZDoom will have updated five or ten times and it still will be incompatible in some way due to something having been changed.
Graf will always come back with "Why do you always insist on using the old version of GZDoom?"
The simple solution would be "Slow down with the updates, chickenshit, stop leaving modmakers in the dust!"
I've only posted twice today, why am I getting captchashit all of a sudden?

>> No.5425365

>>5425356
What does that have to do with anything?

>> No.5425369

>>5425347
Of fucking course it is, but try to tell it to idiots trying to pass slaughtermaps as "just a bit hard".

>> No.5425371

>>5425341
> on the latest stable build of GZDoom
Why would you want that? Stick to the older, better versions that don't break every mod ever made.

>> No.5425374

>>5425143
>Worst ones are those who play only on UV, and then proceed to complain that the wad is too hard.
/doom/ complaining about any remotely hard map and calling it "slaughter" even when the map in question has less monsters than vanilla IWADs' maps, like that refracted reality wad.

>> No.5425375

>>5425365
Nothing, walk away and leave the conversation to people who actually could read previous posts and catch the context.

>> No.5425386

>>5425374
Slaughtermap has nothing to do with number of monsters, silly. It's about overall style of battles. It has been already discussed millions times.

>> No.5425391

>>5425375
There's no context whatsoever for mentioning the fact that other countries have weirdos. Nothing in this conversation is related to that point. This is just the fact that 4chan has tons of normies and has millions of hits per month with constant visitors from sites like reddit. Hell other sites have pages dedicated to 4chan content like greentext stories. Not to mention I mentioned more than just /b/. You also seem to think that /b/ is still a fringe place and not one of the normiest boards, hence why it's the 4th fastest board. They have facebook threads, tik tok, gf dumps, ylyl, greentexts about their social life, roll threads etc. with multiples of them everytime.

>> No.5425392

>>5425361
On the fucking floor, my sides in E3M7.

>> No.5425394

>>5425360
I can't tell if this is a joke post or not.

>> No.5425395

>loading custom source-port map into GZDoom Builder
>give full correct paths to doom2.wad, custom textures wad and resources wad
>GZDoom Builder showing unknown things
>map plays absolutely normal
What I'm doing wrong?

>> No.5425398

>>5425371
but they're old.

>> No.5425401

>>5425395
>What I'm doing wrong?
Using GZDoom.

>> No.5425404

>>5425391
>has tons of normies
is not equal to "normies site", like somebody implying.

>> No.5425406

>>5425398
And?

>> No.5425407

>>5425395
do you have the wad open in slade?
it can't read it when its in use

>> No.5425408

>>5425394
Poe's rule, my friend. We don't use smilies over here.

>> No.5425412

>>5425401
But I'm not. I'm using GZDoom BUILDER.
>>5425407
Nah, it's not, I'm pretty aware of this issue, so never opening wads in both editors.
It's not like it's a real problem, map functioning fine anyway, I'm just curious why this is happening.

>> No.5425416

>>5425404
It seems like you forgot what this argument was about: someone claiming that you can't be a normie if you're on this site, yet here you are already accepting that there are tons of normies on 4chan. /b/ got overtaken by them and is now what it is today. Also you're saying that a site's userbase has no saying in its tone? Of course if the site gets overtaken by normies it's going to reflect that.

>> No.5425417

>>5425408
>We don't use smilies over here.
yeah we do.
>>5415637

>> No.5425423

>>5425232
Yeah, this is one thing that I'm pretty disappointed with (G)ZDoom about.

>> No.5425424

>>5425416
Dude. That's an ancient 4chan joke. Relax. I'm kidding. Sorry that it bothered you.

>> No.5425426

>>5425417
It's not us, it's goddamn normies, so nou kaunto.

>> No.5425428

>>5425406
I don't wanna be jumping from build to build because Yholl can't update his stuff quick enough to comply with GZDoom's changes in each update/Graf can't keep promises of not fucking up backwards compatibility.

>> No.5425429

>>5425424
...What? Why would you argue for so long then?

>> No.5425431

>>5425428
>I don't wanna be jumping from build to build because Yholl can't update his stuff
Well you don't get to fucking play the wad then, simple as that.

>> No.5425434

>>5425429
Because I'm waiting for reply to my [other] post and has nothing better to do. I'm sorry, I'm just bored.

>> No.5425438

>>5425426
>they're not /vr/ because I say so
I'm sorry where's the /vr/ gold membership registration form? I seem to have missed it all this time.

>> No.5425441

>>5425434
You claim it was a joke yet you argued with serious posts anyways like a non-joker would have? I don't buy it.

>> No.5425445 [DELETED] 

>>5425426
Kill yourself.

>> No.5425451

Can you guys please stop replying to off topic posts?

>> No.5425472

>>5425395
Could be things defined in ZScript, since GZDoom Builder doesnt recognize them

>> No.5425479
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5425479

I wish Hexen DM wasn't even more dead than Doom DM, it's pretty fun. Playing as the fighter is awesome, he's faster than the other classes and his axe is a one or two hit kill. Little mage bitches always end up on the run from me.

>> No.5425480

>>5425371
Why are ZDoom and its derived ports seemingly the only ones that struggle to maintain backward compatibility with themselves?

>> No.5425485

ANYONE RECOMMEND SOME GOOD SPACE MAPS FOR QUAKE. OR AT LEAAST FUTURE THEMED ONES?

>> No.5425505

>>5425480
Probably because Graf Zahl is a dumbass.

>> No.5425507
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Yearly reminder that /vr/ should create a server to combat the invasion/slaughterfest/MM8BDM tyranny on Zandronum servers

>> No.5425532

>>5425472
...thanks, and I'm an idiot for not noticing it. Well, the more you know, I'm just transitioning from vanilla mapping to more complex stuff.

>> No.5425534

>>5425507
Don't forget survival and complexdoom, those are the worst

>> No.5425535

>>5425140
Some mappers don't even bother with adjusting their maps for lower difficulties and just make it the same on all of them, usually intended as UV difficulty. Which is fine, it's their map but it sucks to encounter those sometimes. I generally just play on HMP when playing normally. Though when I load up Project Brutality I just set it to whatever the equivalent of not too rough is since I'm only there for the violence and just want to kill shit. I play with EVP or Dead Marine when playing "normally" since those don't alter the vanilla gameplay, they just give it better feel and visuals.

>> No.5425536

>>5425534
>complexdoom
>the worst
offender. I hate it for bringing in not-Doom things. Bitches be "b-but Brutal Doom changes mah Doom style!" but fapping furiously to ComplexDoom.

>> No.5425539

>>5425505
It was like that even just with plain old ZDoom, it seems that the community around those ports is more interested in adding more features to enable new types of wads than ensuring that old ZDoom-specific wads continue to work a year or even 5 years from now

>> No.5425541

>>5425507
I propose that this new server should run no mods of any kind and the only wad on rotation should be dwango5

>> No.5425542

>>5425479
until they land the perfectly timed "talk to the hand" and your nudist ass turns into a statue
also BLUD SCROOGE best weapon, wraithverge is for absolute scrubs

>> No.5425543

>>5425535
I'm dead aware of such problem, and not counting this instances, obviously. I never even trying the maps that has "No" in "Difficulty settings" string.

>> No.5425545

is redneck rampage worth playing?

>> No.5425549

>>5425545
If you're into crude humor - hell yes.

>> No.5425550

>>5425545
No, and especially not with the overhyped cusspack

>> No.5425551

>>5425549
how crude is it?
>>5425550
what does the cusspack do?

>> No.5425552

>>5425550
Would you say the cuss pack makes it too shitty?

>> No.5425553

>>5425551
changes some of the voices to include cuss words.

>> No.5425556

>>5425553
that's it?

>> No.5425559

>>5425431
Why is it so hard to keep track of every GZdoom update and update your mod accordingly?
Whats so hard to understand that if you don't keep up, the mod's gonna die and be incompatible?

>> No.5425561

Anybody remember Nitro Family? I do.
>>5425551
Your usual American Pie kind. Like, you dive into well and surface in toilet. I mean, the "redneck" in title should be dead giveaway.
>>5425553
Wow, I wasn't even aware of such thing. Heh, it's been well over decade since I even looked at it anyway.

>> No.5425563

>>5425559
t. never programmed a mod
Usually every new instance of GZDoom breaks some shit while calling it a feature, and modders can't be all day fixing stuff while finishing their mods or they would never end

>> No.5425564

>>5425539
True, but I'd say it's gotten even worse ever since GZDoom took over being the "main" Zdoom port.

>> No.5425565

>>5425559
Name another source port that expects mod makers to watch the port's release log even long after the mod is already finished and released to the public

>> No.5425567

>>5425561
oh well, is the game short enough to beat in a day or should I play other games in my backlog? I need to finish marathon 3 too for example

>> No.5425568

>>5425559
>Why is it so hard to keep track of every GZdoom update
Because GZDoom breaks shit fucking constantly, or changes it for no reason. Most recent example is all the random shit that's busted in 3.7.2
>and update your mod accordingly?
Because Yholl's mods are frequently filled with complete insanity that only he understands. This, combined with GZDoom changes being terrible and breaking shit, means it's not worth it to update until the features stabilize.

>> No.5425572

>>5425567
>it's been well over decade since I even looked at it
Sorry, can't remember. And I never trying to play game in one seating, not then, not now.

>> No.5425575

>>5425232
sounds retarded

>> No.5425593

>>5425559
>>5425563
>>5425565
This is a problem with all programming/modding. Stuff shouldn't be breaking backward compatibility every minor/point release, that's stupid on GZDooms part, but modders also need to realize all software that isnt maintained dies to bitrot. When you stop updating, you have abandoned your software. If the community were serious about it, GZDoom (or another source port) would be major/minor versioning and testing the minor versions to make sure they don't break stuff, and modders would understand they have to check every major update for changes if they want the mod to not die.

>> No.5425595

>>5424980
Because it's quasi-realistic and atmospheric/immersive, and it's just very fun to explore, with lots of secrets and some good fighting.

>> No.5425596

>>5425593
Major updates are understandable but the GZdoom approach of breaking something new and unexpected every single day should be considered unacceptable yet just gets a pass from most users, if there's one thing to be said in favor of sticking to Boom's feature set it's that your wad will continue to work properly in multiple different ports for years to come

>> No.5425598

>>5425593
>even suggesting that breaking backwards compatibility for anything but bugfixing is acceptable
lol

>> No.5425602

>>5425598
To be fair sometimes maintaining complete compatibility with older versions is infeasible, Chocolate Doom doesn't even get 100% of vanilla Doom behaviors correct because some of them depend on interactions that arise due to code that relies on undefined behavior in C

>> No.5425604

I think at the end of the day, there needs to be more communication between modders and the GZDoom team.

>> No.5425606

>>5425541
I was actually thinking of something like co-op vanilla playthroughs of megawads or even non-cringy Invasion mods far away from the Complex shit
The problem is nobody here has the means to get a server up and running 24/7

>> No.5425607

>>5425598
If you never break backwards compatibility your software will quickly become unmaintainable and/or it's 'feature complete'.

>>5425596
Absolutely, GZDoom maintenance looks retarded to me (an outsider to doom modding). The question then is why does everyone use it, and why aren't people forking it and doing a better job?

>> No.5425610

>>5425604
Indeed
It feels like the lead devs are constantly working against modmakers

>> No.5425617

>>5425607
Part of it is the divide between "oldschool" and "newschool" players; the former are more concerned about making ports that preserve something roughly similar to the vanilla Doom "experience" while optionally providing advanced features, while the latter are more interested in seeing how far they can push the Doom engine to its limits and create things that have never been done before

Naturally, the oldschool side absolutely loathe Zdoom and its design philosophy so there's really nobody there to call for pumping the breaks so to speak

>> No.5425640

>>5425550
The cusspack has the same amount of lines but somehow becomes tiring a million times quicker than the regular lines.

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>>5425542
>implying homing projectiles got anything on muh discs of repulsion

>> No.5425643

>>5425617
There is more to it. See, oldskool players started at the dawn of Internet, they knew each other too little too well & close. This leads to two problems:
1st, they used to listen only to their tight (intended) circle of friends. 'Cause, you know, they know their shit and have experience and understanding. Not like this newskewl players. We're alright, it's the kids who are in the wrong.
2nd, they have big troubles trying to critique their friends. 'Cause, well, duh, it's friends. It's hard to say "dude, you're an idiot and your work is shit" when your kids playing together on a regular basis.
Though, of course, it's a problem in any old fanbase. I've seen it in comics too often, for example.

>> No.5425650

>>5425643
To be fair the community has at least moved past things like the shit csabo pulled with CSdoom

>> No.5425663

>>5425650
It fucking should, wasn't that almost 20 goddamn years ago?

>> No.5425664
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5425664

Hey, you. Why aren't you playing Speedmap Pack #193?

>> No.5425675

>>5425541
we need a 24/7 wow.wad server

>> No.5425676

>>5425507
>>5425541
There are already classic vanilla DM servers up, they're just dead 90% of the time

>> No.5425685

>>5425664
Still chipping away at Arcane Dimensions.

>> No.5425695

>>5425664
Because i finished it yesterday! Some solid maps in there, especially the first (bal). The cube one was interesting but i felt the look & flow of it was a bit rough.

Today i'm playing Zerstörer - Testament of the Destroyer, its pretty good.

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>>5425695
You should play func_mapjam3 when you're done, it's for Zerstorer. Some of the maps are REALLY good.

>> No.5425719

>>5425716
should be in miscellaneous options

>> No.5425720

>>5425716
gee thanks mate, I went to the trouble of solving a shitty captcha for nothing

>> No.5425725

I cant get quake user maps to work

I have the maps in quakespasm/id1/maps/[map folder]

and in console im typing "map [mapname]" and it just gives me a cant find message

>> No.5425731

>>5425725
\maps should be your maps folder, you don't put other subfolders in \maps
if it's a MOD you're installing, you make its own folder alongside \id1
read the op infographic

>> No.5425732

>>5425731
oh. it worked. Thanks anon. Thats weird. What if you have 100 maps and hundreds of files. Wouldnt it get super cluttered?

>> No.5425735

>>5425732
yes, but there's nothing stopping you from making other gamedirs with separate map folders
you're not too dumb to scroll down a folder list and find a map name, are you? are you?

>> No.5425761

>>5425507
>tyranny
lol

>> No.5425767

>>5424793

https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B4p2zWkJEFFtNk9hbjRfUUFpUjg
Here you go, anon, just for you.
Doesn't work on GZDoom.

>> No.5425931

>>5425371
What GZ Doom version is best?

Is there a version that works with ALL mods and map sets?
Pirate Doom, Brutal Doom v18, DRLA, High Noon Drifter, Final Doomer etc...

>> No.5425938

>>5425536
>I hate it for bringing in not-Doom things
You must hate tons of mods like REKKR then, right?

>> No.5425940

>>5425931
>Is there a version that works with ALL mods and map sets?
no because there's stuff made for the latest build all the time.

>> No.5425948

>>5425596
>something new and unexpected every single day
Don't pretend like most updates don't break things, in fact /doom/ was desperate to find what mods broke in 3.4-3.6 to stick it to Graf but couldn't.

>> No.5425958

>>5425938
REKKR is a total conversion that contains nothing Doom related aside from needing the IWAD to be played. Complex Doom is Doom with a bunch of garbage pumped into it.

>> No.5425961

>>5425958
>REKKR is a total conversion that contains nothing Doom related aside from needing the IWAD to be played
But the argument is that bringing not-Doom things is bad, so he must hate REKKR as well as tons and tons of other mods.

>> No.5425963

>>5425958
There's a version that doesn't even need an IWAD and runs as a separate game.

>> No.5425967

speaking of rekkr does anyone know why nashgore vengeance doesn't work for the bow shots while it does for the other weapons?

>> No.5425972

>>5424084
Maybe it will work if I get either an earlier version of Guncaster or ZDL.

>> No.5425981

>>5425713
cheers anon, that does look great

>> No.5425989

>not playing all wads on UV to see the mapper's full powerlevel
If it's really hard just save more often, the feature is in the game for a reason.

>> No.5425990

>>5425676
It might be easier for us to "borrow" an old and empty server instead of making our own. Last I checked there's a lot of them lying around.

>> No.5426029

Heretic, E2M4: Ice Grotto from wandstart.

The level gives hellstaff at the very end of the level when it's already useless, as there are no more dangerous enemies left. Hellstaff in situated in the center of the floor design that looks like an eye, which suggests symbolic significance tied to hellstaff, and by extension, hellstaff runes.
Replaying the level reveals, that hellstaff runes are scattered throughout the level a very situational manner. There are four in the chapel, one per each stained glass, containing the green key - two easily accessible, another two seemingly requiring wing artifact (they could be glitched to through the other side of the stained glass, if you run-strafe into it, but I don't think that's intentional). Two "inaccessible" stained glasses with runes contain inferno orbs on the other sides of them, which come quite in handy as means of disposing of acolytes.

Further on, one rune is located near an easy to miss room containing a backpack (although that one is a duplicate), one lies near in the building with the blue key near where the missable dragon claw is, one is near the optional and last-to-open building containing wings which are the only way to get back from the second half of the level (outpost) to the first half (ice grotto with a chapel), as there are no teleporters back. There are several runes scattered near the useless hellstaff, two in the "white" ("red" in this case) of the eye itself even. Finally, there are two hellstaff runes in the last chamber containing the main exit from the level.
What you are supposed to do is to use wings in order to get to the first half of the level, get to the chapel, possibly collect two last runes, and then notice a door that was closed for the entire time, is finally open. That door contains the exit from the level, leading to the secret level.

The hellstaff runes, in the context of this specific level, quite obviously mean something alongside "you might wanna look around about here".

>> No.5426053
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hmm

>> No.5426056

>>5425938
Nah, I mean - for pretending like this shit really belongs in Doom.
Yes and no. Yes, I hate Action Doom. This shit should not have "Doom" in title. No, I like Samsara and Demonsteel. In general, I just can' understand - why try to turn Doom into something entirely else when there are already hundreds of other games and dozens of engines more fitting?
I don't even know what REKKR is. As you can guess, I simply don't care for stuff like TC (and even partial TC, like Hell To Pay).

>> No.5426061

>>5425989
Bitch, the mapper power level shows in - well, duh, fucking map. Because creating something new and beautiful for such old engine is no trivial work.
Bitch, it's not about dying. It's about turning a fun into grinding work.

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>>5426056
> for pretending like this shit really belongs in Doom.
Who are you to say that?
Thanks for admitting to being narrow minded and petty. Part of Doom's charm is how flexible its mod support has been and to think people are in the wrong for daring to do what they want with it is just being a massive purist baby. I'm glad the community doesn't follow your train of thought and does whatever the hell they want.

> I like Samsara and Demonsteel
Did you mean to type "dislike" or are you admitting to having massive cognitive dissonance? Cause Demonsteele changes up the gameplay more than even TCs since the latter still tend to be about shooty shooty bang bang much like Doom instead of warping up the whole gameplay like this with dmc style gauges, combos and focus on melee.

>> No.5426101

>>5426083
And what does mod support has anything to do with style? There is such a thing, imagine that.
And learn to at least being consistent. Your previous quote contain key word "pretending" yet in your second comment you pretending like it did not. I don't hate mods or even TCs, I simply don't like it and don't playing it. Everyone has different tastes and I'm perfectly OK with that, I can wonder at someone's work and recognize it's beauty even it's not my cup of tea. I just hate when modders and players trying to pass mods/TCs as being part of Doom. The fuck it is.

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>>5426101

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>>5426108
>there are fucking demons posting in this thread
>right now

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>>5426109

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>>5426109

>> No.5426119

>>5426083
That webm is dope and made me want to finally try Demonsteele. I always heard it's hard and I'm a shitter so I never got around to it. Since evading attacks is so important and Doom's level design is generally pretty cramped what are some good wads with nice amounts of space to move around in that would recommend for Demonsteele? Preferably without loads of monsters so I can get used to playing it without getting slaughtered constantly.

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5426120

>>5426109
Not me, I'm still in the bathroom

>> No.5426125

>>5426061
Enemy placement is a part of the map's artistry and UV is usually the "true" version with no pulled punches, unless the readme specifically says UV is a difficulty with extra bucketfuls of monsters thrown in for co-op or something.

>> No.5426128

>>5426053
Looks like your nodes are messed up, anon.

>> No.5426192

>>5426056
Action Doom was made in the era, when the people were pushing the limits of Doom with ZDoom. So we had wads like Void (jumping and puzzles), RTC-3057 and Daedalus (explorory, slow hub-based gameplay), Doom Raider (Tomb Raider gameplay in Doom) and Space Station Omega (full of scripted sequences and cutscenes to make Doom more like Half-Life). It was amazing back then to see, what you would be able to turn Doom into. It was less about exciting gameplay and more like "wow, is this possible in Doom?". Nowadays wads like this wouldn't be anything distinct, since you can do pretty much anything with ZDoom, and source port has became bloated with all kinds of (unnecessary) features.

Action Doom had many things never seen in Doom wad of that scale. Like scores, minibosses, controllable vehicles, minigames, highway part where you have to jump from moving cars to another, new weapon (spreadfire gun) without replacing old weapons by taking it from Heretic (back then you couldn't make new weapons with decorate). I remember playing it first time on 2004, and it was fucking amazing back then. It hasn't aged well, because Doom community and what we expect from good wad has been changed and evolved.

But you should be still thankful to all old Zdoom wads. This was the thing, that pretty much kept Doom community alive in 00s. Experimental Zdoom wads also played a large part to influence the gameplay mods, which would come much later after them.

>> No.5426219

>>5426192
Had a brain fart. By writing minibosses, I actually meant bosses with health bars.

>> No.5426269

New thread.

>>5426267
>>5426267
>>5426267

>> No.5426367

>>5426119
it was pretty much made with scythe 2 in mind, so

>> No.5426382

>>5424828
That's different
It's only one species used per map but multiple types
Rather than the whole roster with one per monster

>> No.5426496

>>5426125
>Enemy placement is a part of the map's artistry
No, idiot, it's a part of ability to create interesting gameplay. If map design is shit, no amount of monster placement mastery can magically turn it into something playable.
>UV is usually the "true" version
You imagining things that never happened. There are tons of maps that specifically state "don't start it on UV".

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