ITT: We improve retro game

[Anonymous No.5414616]

>Add a banking system where your coins are deposited after every map
>Can buy and sell items
>You can use your coins to bypass obstacles on the map and buy bonus areas - maybe make mini games something you can buy into playing

[Anonymous No.5414630]

>>5414616
really ? if so:
>modify the paddle control to be able to trigger
>you can shoot a projectile in a straight line
>shot paralyses your opponent allowing you to score more easily

[Anonymous No.5414648]

>>5414616
Improve this board by S'ing TFU.
>>>/lgbt/

[Anonymous No.5414649]

>>5414616
>>Add a banking system
Jews should fear the samurai.

[Anonymous No.5414660]

>>5414616
Zelda 1:
>Bombable walls can be detected by hitting them with your sword
>Remove the one use per screen rule with the blue candle, keep red candle relevant by increasing damage and how far flames travel
>Make burnable trees instantly burn down on contact with flames, removing the need for guess work and having to wait for the fire to vanish to see if the tree was burnable

[Anonymous No.5414663]

>Remove RPG bullshit
>Replace game engine with anything else that isn't Dark Engine
>Remove shitty techno music
>Remove meta bullshit callback to SS1
>Have William Deigo actually fight on your side

[Anonymous No.5414689]

>Replace battle system (most boring part of the game) with something interesting - improve strategic aspect with larger move set, multiple moves (or Pokemon) per turn, take inspiration from TCGs etc. or make battles more engaging with time management eg PP regens in real time, health potions have a cool down period, moves can be charged to increase their power etc.
>Make types have more importance than a Rock Paper Scissors dynamic, maybe some water moves beat fire (dousing) and some fire moves beat water (boiling) depending on how powerful they are/how long you charge your moves
>More uses for Pokemon outside battles other than cutting trees and swimming, and eliminate need for TM whores by letting movement types do actions rather than specific moves (any fire move can burn a tree instead of having to use cut, any fighting move can smash rocks etc.)

And obviously,
>Make it possible to catch every Pokemon without buying the partner game

[Anonymous No.5414716]

>>5414689
>Pokemon have stamina that regenerates forcing you to switch multiple times each battle
>Moves have cool down forcing you to use different moves

[Anonymous No.5414720]

>Doom II
>make owning the SSG indicated on the HUD
>make the Megasphere crimson
literally everything

[Anonymous No.5414737]

>>5414689
This game was already ridiculously complex...

[Anonymous No.5414742]

>>5414616
>>5414660
>Make it a platformer
>Give it "RPG" elements
Fixed.

[Anonymous No.5414757]

>>5414737
Seriously? I never got into Pokemon because of how simple it was. The battle system boils down to repeatedly pressing A until your best move runs out, then change to your next best move and rinse and repeat. As long as you grind you don't even need to think about types.
The only fun bit was walking around the map, which isn't really a game (apart from a couple gyms which had puzzles in).

[Anonymous No.5414772]

>>5414742
What

[Anonymous No.5414829]

>>5414616
You're neither improving a game or the quality of this board. Please go back and don't return until you meet the minimum age requierment.

[Anonymous No.5414849]

>>5414757
That's because the entire battle system is balanced around PvP combat. It's like complaining that Street Fighter sucks because you can cheese all of the computer opponents with certain attacks.

[Anonymous No.5414902]

>>5414849
It's not like saying that at all because Pokemon is primarily a single player game. The vast majority of players get the game for the campaign, not PVP.
On the other hand nobody's buying Street Fighter for the single player.

Even then, Pokemon PVP is basically just as fucking boring. If they added some real strategy like TCG aspects it would greatly improve the single player and PVP.

[Anonymous No.5414956]

>>5414902
>It's not like saying that at all because Pokemon is primarily a single player game.
Pokemon's main gimmick has always been the ability to trade and battle with other players. That's why there are two versions in the first place. The story campaign is just context for those features. Notice that unlike most RPGs, every enemy is forced to follow the same rules you do (sans the occasional hacked Dragonite or rarely used things in later games like Totem Pokemon). That's because the game is very specifically crafted for players to be able to battle each other.

Take switching, for example. It's the core of the combat. In single-player, it boils down to a low-risk way to switch your Pokemon for one strong against the opponent because the AI can't predict and punish it. In multiplayer, switching is layers upon layers of mind games. If you switch, your opponent can predict the switch and either also switch or use a move that hits what they think will switch in hard. But if you foresee your opponent reading a switch, you can either stay in and use a move that will hit whatever you expect your opponent's next active Pokemon to be, or you yourself can switch to something strong against your opponent's counterswitch instead of their currently active Pokemon. Or either player can try to punish a switch with a status move, which all (except sleep) cripple certain Pokemon far more than others, so they can also be played around by intercepting something like a burn on a fast special attacker so they can't get paralyzed.

Every single aspect of Pokemon's combat is built around that kind of thing, but it never comes up at all during the story. If you tried to fuck with it to make the PvE battles more engaging, you'd ultimately just break what makes Pokemon's combat appealing.

[Anonymous No.5414964]

>>5414630
I feel like a 'battle pong' must exist in some form. I know there are lots of shitty flash games on newgrounds but are there any legit games that expand on Pong? It would be cool to have coins on screen and if you hit them with the ball you get a point for your special like in Tetris Battle Gaiden and you can use a certain number of points to make extra balls appear only on the opponents have of the screen or shrink his paddle or something. This would be really fun.

[Anonymous No.5414967]

>>5414956
Yes I get that Pokemon's battle system is focused around PVP, but the point remains that most people buy and play Pokemon for the single player campaign. That's why they should have made a battle system that suits PVE instead.

And my point still stands, Pokemon PVP is shit anyway.

[Anonymous No.5414971]

>>5414964
Shit
There was a "Pong Kombat" on shareware discs
Never thought I'd bring that up

[Anonymous No.5414975]

>add player invasions in dungeons

[Anonymous No.5415043]

>>5414975
I’ll never understand why you people seem to think Zelda II is remotely like the Souls series.

[Anonymous No.5415056]

>>5415043
Because it's hard and features melee combat with active blocking with a shield. That's pretty much it.
People are stupid.

[Anonymous No.5415061]

>>5414956
Descriptions of Pokemon PvP like this always just remind me of people who take competitive Rock Paper Scissors seriously and act like it's this incredibly deep psychological warfare. It doesn't actually sound as interesting as you think it sounds, it's not actually as deep as you think it is, and it's not all that great in practice either.

[Anonymous No.5415086]

DKC: a time attack mode with scoring.

...which the GBA version does perfectly, but unfortunately it’s the GBA version.

[Anonymous No.5415113]

>>5415061
You let the wrong Poke get a Substitute up while you switch out and you won’t be saying that.

My crowning achievement was throttling an OU team including a Jirachi with a Rhydon that I refused to switch out. My opponent kept taking Rock Blasts and Focus Punches to the face trying to switch in something that’d counter my next Poke. They forfeited and complained in chat about people who “don’t predict.”

[Anonymous No.5415115]

>>5414616
sounds like modern trash mechanics that add nothing but timesinks desu

[Anonymous No.5415135]

>>5414616
>Cancel SMB3 and just release SMW instead

[Anonymous No.5415191]

>>5414663
>Remove RPG bullshit
but then the game wouldnt be an rpg which is one of its main points
>Replace game engine with anything else that isn't Dark Engine
dark engine is pretty good for first person games imo, its what makes ss2 stand out for immersion
>Remove shitty techno music
and replace it with that? ss1 music thats right all up in your face?
>Remove meta bullshit callback to SS1
ok this is warranted to remove, it didnt really need this
>Have William Deigo actually fight on your side
why
the only thing to change that would improve the game would be changing the ending completely and removing the spiders

[Anonymous No.5415272]

>>5414967
>I play pokemon for single player
>therefore everyone else who plays pokemon plays for the same reason

[Anonymous No.5415289]

>>5415061
It's like Rock Paper Scissors if there were thousands of options besides rock, paper, and scissor and each player is only allowed to bring 24 of them. And neither player knows which 24 the opponent has until they use them.

[Anonymous No.5415293]

Donkey Kong 64:
>You can use the d pad to switch kongs

[Anonymous No.5415465]

>>5414772
Make it into Zelda II, hence improving the game.

[Anonymous No.5415470]

Is this the terrible ideas thread?

[Anonymous No.5415474]

>>5414757
I meant program wise, especially if, as you said, you wanted "a larger move set".

[Anonymous No.5415820]

>>5415272
Every single one of my friends plays Pokemon, plus my brothers. I only know one person who has ever been interested in PvP. Yes that's anecdotal but still, Pokemon is more focused around its campaign than the PvP elements.

Also, I don't play Pokemon at all. This is the impression I've got from other people.

[Anonymous No.5415846]

>>5414616
>Mario 3 can save now

[Anonymous No.5415978]

>>5414616
>add simultaneous co op mode

Hi SMBX!

[Anonymous No.5416261]

>>5415846
They already did this in Mario All-Stars SMB3

[Anonymous No.5417642]

>>5414660
Link's awakening and Oracle games have clink clink for bombable walls. Would've been more useful in Zelda 1 though, I agree, since there were (almost?) never any hint as to what was bombable.

[Anonymous No.5417648]

>>5414720
This seems like something that's been taken care of already.... And if it hasn't, would literally take less than half an hour to accomplish now.