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5407894 No.5407894 [Reply] [Original]

N64 Flashcart and NES Flashcart

I already own the SD2SNES, so I am familiar with Flashcarts and the value for the money.

My problem is that I only have enough money for one of these and both systems are lacking in games to play making the purchase worth the money. I'm leaning more towards the NES because of ROM-Hacks I could be playing on it and the fact that I wouldn't have to keep changing carts and blowing away the dust every time to get regular games working, I would just leave the flash cart in all the time.

BUT, something I was reading online was that you can install an NES emulator into the N64 flash cart which would make me lean more towards getting that one.

If you own one or have an opinion or questions feel free to post your experiences in this thread, I want to get as much information as possible before making a purchase.

>> No.5407901

the nes emulator it comes with is cool but the games don't really run all that well on it, it's definitely not running the games at full speed. Saving your game also only works using a controller memory pak, and the worst part is you can't have any n64 saves on it at the same time for it to work.

I say just save up a bit more and get both at once. How hard could it take to save up a hundred dollars or so?

>> No.5407902

I heard the nes emulator on the n64 everdrive isnt good. But you can play 64dd games on it
>>5407901
>Saving your game also only works using a controller memory pak
Wrong. Games that use the cart to save are saved normally on to the everdrive.

>> No.5407905

>>5407902
I meant saves for the nes emulator. If I'm wrong then I'm damn happy cause it didn't used to be this way

>> No.5407917
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5407917

>>5407901
>>5407902
>>5407905
Thanks. Okay so the NES emulator on the cart is a bust, that's good to know.

As far as games go on the N64, the biggest ones I want to play are Super Smash bros, Diddy Kong Racing, Yoshi's Story, Tankz Global Assault, Mario Tennis and Tony Hawk 2. I already own Paper Mario, Kirby, Mario Kart, both Zeldas and GoldenEye. So the cost of those games can sort of justify the cost (260$ Canadian for v3.0) but it's not totally convincing me like my SD2SNES did and is still doing because of all the great romhacks available. The only romhack I have seen for the n64 that seemed interesting was Paper Mario : Hard Mode.

For the NES, the games would mostly be a long list of common games like Mario 2, contra, excite bike, kirby, ice climbers and kid icarus and so on. The biggest selling point is leaving the cartridge in the system. Also the Mario 3 randomizer is a lot of fun.

>> No.5407923

>>5407917
from the sound of it you'll probably end up getting both anyway. Just pick whichever one based on the games you feel like playing the most right now. N64 is harder to emulate and the original controller matters more to me so that's the one I went with first.

>> No.5407934

>>5407923
I"m definitely leaning this way but now that I think about the games I want to play, the list isn't that long. Super Smash is the biggest one, and getting the Paper Mario : Hard Mode mod to work would be the next biggest. I have a decent computer but still have issues getting the n64 to emulate properly and it's not worth the frustration especially when I can't use the original controller.

>> No.5407936

>>5407934
ya, it's really hard to replicate the original feel of n64 games without og hardware+controllers. Nes on the other hand runs fine on just about anything

>> No.5407950

I'm seeing a couple options on Amazon.ca

One of the v3.0 is 340$ !! and one is 255$
Am I missing something here? One is sold by Krikzz and one by EverDrive

$255 https://www.amazon.ca/Everdrive-EverDrive-64-v3-0/dp/B07CT397W7/ref=sr_1_fkmr0_1?keywords=EverDrive-64+v3&qid=1551565041&s=gateway&sr=8-1-fkmr0

$340 https://www.amazon.ca/EverDrive-64-Ultimate-version-Nintendo-system/dp/B01JOLIVRY/ref=sr_1_fkmrnull_1_sspa?keywords=EverDrive-64+v3&qid=1551597158&s=gateway&sr=8-1-fkmrnull-spons&psc=1

>> No.5408026

>>5407950
From what i understand, krizz makes all the boards. Offical retailers buy the boards and can make thier own carts. Dor example i bought mine from stoneagegamedotcom. You can have custome color shells ect from them.

>> No.5408045

Get the N64 one that way you can play all the THQ wrestling games
Tony hawk 2 and MK4

>> No.5408046

For me personally I get flashcarts for handhelds since emulators can't replicate the feel of them.
But if I was going to get flash hardware for an old console my picks would be N64 and Sega Saturn because currently those consoles don't emulate all that great.

>> No.5408283

>>5407917
>wanting to play the N64 version of Tony Hawk
Why would someone willingly do this to themselves in the year of our lord 2019

>> No.5408374

>>5408046
Saturn emulates fine.

>> No.5408401

I feel like they're completely pointless. If you want to play with original hardware, play the original games. Otherwise just fucking emulate on a modern gaming pc, its better anyway. No, you can't prove me wrong on this.

>> No.5408407

>>5408401
>If you want to play with original hardware, play the original games.
with a flashcart you are. with the eventually added perks of savestates, cheatengine, save-management, romhacks and on-the-fly-patching, etc.

>> No.5408431

>>5407905
>>5407905
>>5407905
>>5407917
>Thanks. Okay so the NES emulator on the cart is a bust, that's good to know.
It's not completely a bust, give it a try even if you get the NES cart as well. When he says not fullspeed he is not including frameskip which makes it appear fullspeed. If you start up SMB3 on it, it looks and feels and plays like SMB3, there's no accounting for accuracy autists. The intensive parts of the emulator were written in N64 assembly.
>>5407917
Not him but it should be possible to save to SDcard now, however it didn't work for me for some reason - https://themanbehindcurtain.blogspot.com/2017/01/neon64-nes-sram-to-n64-sram-redirection.html
>>5408401
This is an incredibly retarded post and you don't understand the very basics about how old games play.

>> No.5408436

>>5408431
>This is an incredibly retarded post and you don't understand the very basics about how old games play.
Then educate me, poser. You can't? Of fucking course you can't lol.
'the very basics about how old games play' says the casual playing his n64 flashcart hooked up to his 4k vizio with an rf cable

>> No.5408445

>>5408436
A flashcart allows you to play on original hardware without the huge cost of the games, that's why people find it a good idea. What educating is there to someone who can't understand that? Also you are not only dumb but unstable, shown by how you're just inventing things about me you know have no chance of being true.

>> No.5408446

>>5407894
Get the N64 flash cart because NES games can be easily emulated while N64 games cannot. The Megadrive 64 even has a built-in NES emulator in it if you want an easy way to play NES roms on a CRT.

>> No.5408453

>>5408445
>A flashcart allows you to play on original hardware without the huge cost of the games
Just emulate you fucking poor welfare nigger lol. Emulation is literally better than original hardware anyway.
Oh but you need your autistic trophies to move into the frame every time you desperately grasp for attention in another battlestation thread.

>> No.5408551

>>5408453
>Emulation is literally better than original hardware anyway.
t. Never tried to emulate any third party N64 game

>> No.5408558

>>5408551
I wouldn't really want to play any N64 game, but the few I do like, like hybrid heaven and operation winback, are better than original hardware on parallel.

>> No.5408578

>>5408551
The more attention someone gives it the more it will come back.

>> No.5408761

>>5408283
>N64 tony hawk
I grew up with both of those versions and somehow as a 10 year old I didn't notice any difference between the two except for the loading times. Looking back on it now I see that the music is totally fucked beyond recognition but I still enjoy playing 1 on the N64 and it would be nice to play 2 again. I Lent about 10 games to my friend after I got my Gamecube and then we lost touch so I only have 4 N64 games. A lot of common games I don't have anymore so those would be fun to play again.

>>5408046
I'm the opposite, I love using my computer to emulate gameboy games because the screens are so small and I'm getting older. I don't know how we could play on such small dimly lit screens, but maybe that's why my eyes are so bad now.

Okay I think I'm gonna go with the N64 flashcart and try to save up for the NES one later in the year.

>> No.5408769

>>5408558
lmfao. no

>> No.5408794

Just get an NES Classic and mod it dude. Controller feels exactly the same. Emulation is pretty close to perfect. Pretty sure it costs less than the NES ED too. Besides, you've clearly indicated that you're OK with emulating NES games because you're willing to emulate them on the ED64, why bother with the flash cart at all?

>> No.5408919

>>5408794
Emulating NES games on the ED64 cart still allows you to play them on a CRT through composite like God intended. The NES Classic is HDMI only.

>> No.5408940

>>5408794
I'm one of those autist speedrunners when it comes to NES games like Mario 3 so I will notice any LAG. I have an emulator on my Wii but was wondering if the N64 emulator was a lot better and maybe had very minimal LAG but I guess that's not the case. I already have an NES, SNES and N64 hooked up to one tv in my classic gameroom and all my modern consoles are downstairs in my living room so the flashcart seems like the way to go.

>> No.5409380

>>5408919
>composite
We are older now. We can afford better anon. Spoil yourself.

>> No.5409421

How is the SD2SNES? I already have Everdrives for NES and Genesis since those are my two favorite systems, but I also like SNES a lot.

>> No.5409528

>>5407894
It's a tough decision. The N8 and the ED64 are probably the best flash carts after SD2SNES. N64 is nice in that it's still not at a great state as far as emulation is concerned, and it plays everything, even 64DD stuff.

N8 is GR8 too though. There's a lot of fun romhacks.

I'd say get whichever system you like best. If you have no preference, get 64 if you like couch multiplayer, get N8 if you mainly play solo.

>> No.5409626

>>5409380
I like composite because it's more nostalgic.

>> No.5409629

>>5408401
>No, you can't prove me wrong on this.

Mamma always said you can't fix stupid. Looks like she was right.

The point is, as far as your game console knows, it is the original game. You can use original peripherals, hook it up just like the original system. You can play original games that are bit perfect to playing on an original cart, or play romhacks and translations.

I'm not shitting on emulation so please understand that. Some people just like original hardware but don't necessarily want (or don't want to pay for) a huge collection of "rotting plastic". I either kept or rebought my childhood favorites and flashcart the rest. It's really not about saving money for me, it's about convenience and reducing clutter. I don't want the "pawn shop chique" that a shelf full of game give. To me it looks bad and is just clutter. That said, they do save money but the same can be said for emulation, so it's kind of personal preference.

>> No.5409796

>>5409421
>SD2SNES
I fucking LOVE IT. And I say this as somebody that got absolutely fucked by the pricing. I live in Canada and bought it from a Canadian site but it didn't list what the currency for each price was so I assumed it was all in Canadian dollars. Well, I got fucked when my receipt came and it was over 300$ and I was expecting 200$.

The first and most important thing about it is that you can fit every game on it and unless you are autistic about how accurate Mario RPG or Yoshis Island plays on it then every game is playable. The first games I played on it were Earthbound, Secret of Mana 2, Terranigma, Tales of Phantasia and a long list of Super Mario World hacks. That alone makes it worth the price.

Even though I have a box of about 50 cartridges I never have to use them because this one cart just stays in my system. Another thing I recently started playing are Randomizer hacks for games like Legend of Zelda and Super Mario RPG which are really fun on the console. You also have the option to play gameplay improvement hacks for stuff like Secret of Mana that is miles above the original game.

>> No.5409973

>>5409796
How well does it handle SuperFX games?

>> No.5409995

Does anyone have any experience with the GBA flashcarts? I've seen some stuff saying that you can play NES and even Game Gear/Master System/Mega Drive or Neo Geo Pocket stuff on them with custom kernels.

>> No.5409996
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5409996

I live in a third world country, my options are limited. No SD2SNES for me.

Are multicarts really that shit of an alternative? Aparently recent models can do multiple saves

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>>5408436
>>5408453
>>5408558
I'm just a passer-by that came to read this thread, but your posts are such low quality that i have to earnestly plead that you go away and don't come back.

>> No.5410060

Krikzz is working on a new version of the N8 so the original will likely go on sale to move inventory

>> No.5410071

I liked nes a bit more
nes has more games, n64 has less games but each game you can play for a lot longer

>>5408401
its more expensive but having games can be more special so do both

>> No.5410119

There's a good chunk of good NES games that don't work on the N64 flashcart

Off of the top of my head one Castlevania was the main offender

>> No.5410132

You can emulate NES pretty easily.
You can't say the same for N64. Go for N64.
I've got the everdrive for my N64 and it's great, got Wii for everything else.

>> No.5410139

>>5410060
Source?

>> No.5410163

>>5410060
>>5410139
Any source on this? Even with the SD2SNES getting an upgrade I don't remember seeing any huge sales. What is there to upgrade on the N8?

>>5410132
I just purchased the N64 cart v3.0 but now I have a new problem, I need a second controller and they are quite pricey on eBay and amazon and even the cheap chinese ones are 25$ and will probably feel like hot garbage (I have 2 spare SNES controllers that cost 2$ each from china and they feel like trash).

What is the best option for a second controller? Do I just go to a swapmeet and pay 10$ for one with a loose stick? Are the chinkshit ones any good, and are they worth the 25$ ?

>> No.5410165

>>5407894
Invest that money in education so you can make yourself employable and afford the toys you want

>> No.5410193

>>5410165
>Already own a house
>Already own two cars
>Have a family
>Work a trade and make great money
Cost of living is high here and I'm not gonna throw money away if I don't see the value in something. I did end up buying it but this is just to clarify my situation to a stranger on the internet.

>> No.5410239

>>5409796
Do you have a link or can you point me in the direction or these rom hacks? I just ordered my sd2snes this week for my super nt and want to get crazy and lock myself away from society fora week or so and just have fun

>> No.5410296

>>5410239
Not that anon but...
>SMW romhacks
Check /vr/ archives for some older /rhg/(romhack general) threads, the OP has a list of some of the more popular SMW romhacks.
>randomizers
Literally google for them.
>improvement hacks
Google romhacking, should be the first result.

>> No.5410679

>sd2snes v1.10.0
>=======
> * add S-DD1 support by magno
> * initial firmware release for sd2snes Mk.III ("sd2snes pro")
> * fixes:
> - fix memory corruption on BS-X loading
> - reset S-RTC read state on all load and reset occasions

>S-DD1

It literally unironically is indeed happening.

>> No.5410681

>>5410679
>v1.10.1
>=======
> * fix bug preventing boot on sd2snes Mk.III...
lel

>> No.5410748

>>5410193
>9001/LARP

>> No.5410773

>>5409421
The SNES overdrive is worth it since the SNES game library is impressive.

>> No.5410786

>>5410163
For a second controller the retro fighters one is actually good.

>> No.5411050

>>5409528
>N8 is GR8 too though. There's a lot of fun romhacks.
yes, the n8 even comes with megadrive-sound-emulation when playing FDS-games.

>> No.5411461

>>5408401
I emulate everything but i do have n64 everdrive cos emulating sucks for it

>> No.5411476

>>5411050
I thought everyone said the FDS sound was fixed on the v20 firmwares?

>> No.5411850

>>5411461
this. the only reason i bought one. but now I have an hdtv dont know what Im going to do about emulation for n64 now

>> No.5411854

>>5411850
hdmi mod or rgb + upscaler? i just keep a crt

>> No.5411864

>>5411854
yeah i could do that, but it would only be for N64. I dont mind emulating the rest because it emulates fine

>> No.5412215

>>5410239
My advice for RomHacks is make sure you read the reviews and possibly watch a video, especially the Super Mario World ones. There are so many trash ones and just a few good ones. Return to Dinosaur Island is a top tier hack and there are a couple others I can't remember right now. A majority of hacks are just Kaizo or really short and stupid.

http://www.romhacking.net/ is a great website but it doesn't contain EVERY good hack which I found out last month when I was talking to some other anons. I highly recommend the Secret of Mana improvement hack which fixes your partners getting stuck and you can run in any direction. Learning how to apply patches to rom files was the trickiest part when I started this. You should have all the rom files on your computer and when you are patching one make a seperate folder and copy the original rom file into it and then do your patching within that folder. Then make sure you test it in an emulator on your computer before wasting time loading it up on your SNES and getting a black screen.

You can also look into basic hacks/translations for games not released in your native language or in your area. I was just playing Tales of Phantasia and Terranigma which are not available in Canada.

>>5410748
Not larping, I'm 30 and work a decent trade. I lucked out on buying my house before prices went insane.

>>5410786
I actually found a Japanese seller on eBay that sells original controllers for 15-30$ Canadian depending on the model (grey is 15$, clear blue is 30$) with free shipping. I ordered two and hopefully the sticks are tight (it says they are but we'll see). I feel much better buying these instead of chinese knockoffs.

>> No.5412417

>>5411864
>Not larping
>is larping

Jap controllers are the way to go

>> No.5412423

>>5407894
Can I use save states with flashcarts?

>> No.5412449

>>5412417
I think you quoted the wrong person? I just want to point out that being careful with money as an adult is something everybody should be doing...

>>5412423
I haven't read anything official about save states but I have seen some anons on here post about save states with some everdrives but I personally haven't seen it.

I used to savescum when playing Terranigma as a kid but playing it on official hardware with trial and error is definitely the way to go. You learn the boss patterns and get good at the game without constantly loading states.

>> No.5412475

>>5409996
what kind of third world country do you live in? You can't even order sd2snes from amazon or ebay?

>> No.5412481

>>5409421
>>5409973
perfectly fine works with every game and games like starfox with the FX chip since the latest firmware updates now support FX chip. you can patch certain games to have MSU1 which allows CD audio for games like Secret of Mana and A Link to the Past. trust me, sd2snes is a fucking amazing flashcart. And the sd2snes pro is coming soon so check that out.

>> No.5412486

I own a sd2snes, I'm new to it, how can I get cheat codes to work? I assume you can't just use the Game Genie with the flash cart?

>> No.5412492

>>5412423
Some do but the Everdrive 64 at least up to 2.5 doesn't

>> No.5412501

>>5412481
So does it have a copy of an FX chip onboard?

Or is just >emulating it?

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>>5412501

>> No.5412518

>>5409996
I was reading an online blog/post about the voltage not being correct and that these multicarts will mess up your system because of the incorrect voltages. https://db-electronics.ca/2017/07/05/the-dangers-of-3-3v-flash-in-retro-consoles/ scroll down to the multicarts section.

>> No.5412520

>>5412501
it emulates it with the proper firmware

>> No.5412531

>>5412518
>I was reading an online blog/post about the voltage not being correct and that these multicarts will mess up your system because of the incorrect voltages. https://db-electronics.ca/2017/07/05/the-dangers-of-3-3v-flash-in-retro-consoles/ scroll down to the multicarts section.

THAT MEME GOT BUSTED AGES AGO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

IT WAS JUST SOME SPERG CIRCLEJERK FROM COLLECTOR HOARDERS!!!!

>> No.5412547

>>5412518
kys

>> No.5412549

>>5412486
help, anyone?

>> No.5412575

>>5412531
>>5412547
So that guys post is all false? I'm no engineer but I've dealt with incorrect voltages and burned out diodes on electronics.

It still seems more convenient to just get an everdrive instead of a cart with a set number of games, although the N64 only has so many good games.

>> No.5412578

>>5412492
>>5412449
I ask because that's the main reason I like emulation. If emulators didn't have it there is no way in hell I could play even 10% of old games. Call me a scrub all you want, but I don't think it's physically possible for me to beat games like Castlevania without dedicating hundreds of hours.

>> No.5412579

>>5412575
>the N64 has so many good games
ftfy

>> No.5412586

>>5409421
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JfBINzRjN3s

>> No.5412587

>>5412586
>4:29

>> No.5412590

>>5412501
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HWdiIXf84_M here's FX gameplay example also the game is patched and now has CD audio

>> No.5412598

>>5412579
I dno man, I was just looking through it's entire library (North American) to find some roms to download and so far I have 10. I'm sure I will find some really fun sports games and some hiddengems .

>> No.5412710

>>5412449
>i think you quoted one of the other people totally not larping itt
lel

>> No.5412720

>>5410296I>>5412215

Thanks I'm going to check it out.

Does anyone play snes games with msu 1 audio files or whatever they're called? Is it worth it?

>> No.5412919

>>5412518
>HUR I READ IN SOME BLOG
Ok, and did you read the spec sheets for the hardware you are discussing? If not, then why should I give a shit what you read on the fucking internet, when you don't even know what the hardware can handle?

Use some basic logic.

>> No.5413118

>>5412919
Parroting bullshit is much easier than reading facts. Why should anon use basic logic when the internet can just tell him what to think?

>> No.5413768

>>5411476
then why isn't it released yet?

>> No.5413773

>>5412518
that url really needs to be added to the spam-list.

>>5413768
>As for v20, well, i really don't know why it not working for some of us, it work on all my test carts and all my systems. I do not know how to fix the problem if i can't see the problem. But what if i would not made v20 at all? N8 still be best in terms of mappers support and features, all would be happy with v16 or some v17 with minor updates. But i tried to made huge jump for N8, spent incredible amount of time for all those mappers and fds sound and what i have after all? Only complaints? I must say this is dissapoint and demotivate me.

>I want to say once again that when you buy the product, you guaranted will take the item with specification listed on the product page on the moment when you buy it, nothing else. Don't blame me that you did not get enough updates, i did not promised anything except what i already have.
http://krikzz.com/forum/index.php?topic=7811.msg67339#msg67339

>> No.5413782

>>5412598
What are you blithering on about, there are dozens of top rated really good N64 games period.

>> No.5413831

>>5413773
In case anyone is wondering, Krikey has been asking for some time for someone to send him a non-working NES/EDN8/SD card combo so he can try and figure out why some people keep getting SD card errors from the N8 with the latest (v20) firmware, since every single famicom and NES he has works just fine with it. Since none of the people reporting it non-working have been willing to send him their setup so he can figure it out, this post was the result.

>> No.5414382

>>5411476
>i thought a couple shills were everyone
Sounds like you should avoid thinking and stick to things you can handle

>>5413773
awww. poor widdle kwikzz

>> No.5414493

>>5413118
Sooo, should I believe the guy who measured all the voltages or should I believe the anons on this board yelling at me? All I'm saying is I have hooked up Diodes and Resistors that were sold to me saying they were OEM when in fact they were a smaller size/capacity and they burned out in a week (This is on Equipment/Engine electronics) so I can kind of see what that guy was saying but again I'm not an engineer and would rather be safe than sorry. I've also put parts into machines that were cheaper than OEM and worked just fine, and some that didn't fit properly right out of the box because the children in China that are building them don't know what the fuck they are doing.

>>5413782
I guess I should point out that I meant games I don't already own like Smash Brothers, Kirby, Donkey Kong, Bomberman and both Zelda games. When I was looking at SNES games that I had not played yet there were hundreds of good games a lots of great games to choose from and I'm still finding more. The library is just very small on the N64.

>>5412720
>msu1
I only tried this for Secret of Mana and was greatly dissapointed. Instead of taking the original music and making it clearer or fuller they made all new songs that don't fit into the game. Some people like them but not me.

>> No.5414494

>>5412575
The N64 flashcarts don't have this problem since the N64 has the correct voltage for it

>> No.5414608

>>5414493
>Sooo, should I believe the guy who measured all the voltages
yes. hes been very clear that he's describing a minor problem that causes unwanted strain, not something likely to cause catastrophic failure. people misrepresent his arguments and 'debunk' a strawman. his actual points have never been refuted.
this topic just makes people butthurt and leads to fights, thus the drama.
>or should I believe the anons on this board yelling at me
no. no one has "disproven" this. krikzz has even been fixing the issue in later revisions of his carts. only three of his carts still use the wrong voltage, and hopefully theyll all be fixed in a year or two.
theres a reason almost every other retro hardware maker (including voultar, HDretrovision, and even ikari, maker of the sd2snes) have agreed with this post and design their shit to the proper specs.
its not a huge deal, it wont break your console, but it IS a bad design. thats why its being fixed.

>> No.5414821

>>5414493
You should never believe an alarmist. Instead you should be extremely skeptical of anything they say. Especially when their claims don't pan out in the real world. There have been no recorded instances of consoles bursting into flames or even dying from using 3.3v carts. And yet it's been going on for many years. It usually just takes a little common sense to slice through bullshit. A razor helps. I recommend occams.

>>5414608
He was very clear that he backpedaled and kidsplained his original claims while "proving" he was right using a convoluted example of something that never happens. See his video about how it works in one hypothetical line on one hypothetical genesis cart, which doesn't actually work that way. You won't understand it by maybe you can show it to an adult who can. His original claim was that it was causing catastrophic failure and destroying consoles. The faggot has proven himself to be an alarmist drama queen bullshiter. He may know more than you about electronics but because of his shenanigans he has zero credibility and anyone who takes anything he says at face value is a fool.

>> No.5414823

>>5414608
Ok this makes more sense. It's the same with installing parts onto equipment and people's vehicles. One person will claim something and others will claim it causes damage and the reality is that it's not good and I wouldn't do it to my own car but you might not have any problems. I don't think it's worth the risk and would rather go with Krikzz and support him.

>> No.5416058

>>5407894
Can you guys advice me on best flashcart on NES?

>> No.5416069

>>5416058
there's just one.

>> No.5416073

>>5416069
Is it Everdrive n8 or PowerPak? Whats the advantage of one over the other?

>> No.5416078

>>5408453
>calls rando a "poor welfare nigger"
>accuses same rando of having presumably expensive "autistic trophies"
What did he mean by this?

>> No.5416117

>>5416058
>>5416073
Everdrive is the best option for all flash carts.

>> No.5416132

>>5416058
Everydrive N8 by far. Only other option is the ancient RetroUSB PowerPak, which has lower compatibility and hasn't been supported in years.

>> No.5416243

>>5416132
>>5416117
>>5416069
Thanks guys!

>> No.5416254

>>5416117
>ezflash omega
>elcheaposd
>sd2snes
>64drive

>> No.5416268

>>5416254
>>5416117
For Gameboy Im using BennVenn flashcard and no problems, works like a charm

>> No.5416298

>>5416254
>>5416268
I didn't say Everdrive is the only functional option, just that they're the best ones.

>> No.5416310

>>5416078
I remember some years back the shitposter admitted he couldn't afford ED's since he's poor. Literally sour grapes. You can recognize him since he never contributes anything of value, and tries to start shit. Like this:
>>5414382

>> No.5416324

>>5416243
np,

Krikzz

>> No.5417006

>>5416310
>i've been underage posting for some years

>> No.5417024

>>5417006
>exact same time of day
You should mix it up more often, you stand out too easy.

>> No.5417179

>>5417024
You should shitpost less often

>> No.5417296

Wanting to pick up an SNES flashcart , can someone explain to me why the SD2SNES is $197 and the Super Everdrive X5 is $89? Which one do I want and why?

>> No.5417390

>>5417296
sd2snes works with some chip enhanced games the the everdrive doesn't
also everdrive doesn't have any bells or whistles and takes like 30 seconds to switch ROM

>> No.5417408

>>5417296
>Wanting to pick up an SNES flashcart , can someone explain to me why the SD2SNES is $197 and the Super Everdrive X5 is $89?
A lot of SNES games use special chips to do extra stuff that the SNES can't do on its own. A LOT of them. The Everdrive can't play any of those games. The SD2SNES can play all of them except four weird japanese board games. So, all of them.
>Which one do I want and why?
SD2SNES if you wanna play everything. It's also faster.
Everdrive if you're okay with a limited selection for a lower price.
Check online for lists of games with special chips. There are a ton of comparisons of the two carts if you google them.

>> No.5417563

>>5408436
No one wants to prove to you anything. You don't want to spend money and emulators work just fine for you, that's fine. Some people like booting up their consoles and prefer the feel of the original controllers (they are generally better for the games that were made for them) and many play on old CRTs (again because it feels better to them, perhaps nostalgia based). Flashcarts offer them that, and they offer more that weren't always available when those consoles came out, and they offer them at a price point that is better than the second hand market. Furthermore, some consoles (like the N64) just don't emulate well yet, if ever--even Nintendo does a shit job emulating the N64.

Not everybody wants the same things, and you shared your opinion. You don't get threads like these, but OP wants an opinion on it, and this is the place to ask like minded people.

>> No.5417583

>>5417563
Don't forget the value of flash carts for things like running unreleased games on real hardware, translation patches and homebrew on the real machines. Some people also just prefer to use them versus putting wear and tear on their real collections or always digging out the exact game they want from a larger collection.

>> No.5418282

>>5417296
>Which one do I want and why?
4chan is 18+, please leave.

>> No.5418340

>>5417390
>>5417408
Thanks , I see that they just released the SD2SNES Pro , what does the Pro version add that the SD2SNES doesn't have? Also is Krikzz.com where I want to buy it? Or is there a better place to buy that isn't based in Ukraine. I live in Canuckistan

>> No.5418348

>>5418340
You are willing to spend 200 bucks, yet aren't willing to do the tiniest amount of research yourself?
>>>/reddit/ to get spoon-fed.

>> No.5418351

>>5418340
This video explains the differences: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOy_AItdwog&feature=youtu.be

>> No.5418391

>>5418348
Fuck off faggot, I read the features and enhancement chips and description. Doesn't mean a whole fuck of a lot.
>>5418351
If it is really only because they can't source the parts , is the extra ram worth it?

>> No.5418501

>>5418391
I'm personally of the mind that greater compatibility and more features are always worth it. Pro has beter compatibility with more games as well as more flexibility for ROM hacks and such. It's up to you whether that's worth the extra money. If you know exactly what games you want to play, check compatibility lists to see if the regular version works for all the games you want. If you're not sure exactly what you want to play and you'd like to keep your options open, go for the Pro because it's the latest model with highest compatibility. From here you'll need to do your own research and make your own value judgement.

>> No.5418570

>>5418501
>Pro has beter compatibility with more games
[citation needed]

>> No.5418587

>>5418570
This as far as I knew , I thought it was the same thing at the moment and the pro will just have more room for improvement as time goes on and the old cart will just be obsolete at the point of new revisions

>> No.5418593
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5418593

Whats the best of the best of every flashcart/modchip on every system?

>> No.5418596

>>5418587
that sounds like the same pipedream when sd2snes launched.
"it can support more chips with firmware-updates!!1", and it took people over eight years to add more chips (ignoring obc1).

buy it for what it can do NOW, not what it possibly could do eventually in the future maybe.

>> No.5418898

The Mega Everdrive X7 says that Sega Genesis, Sega Mega Drive, Sega Master System, and 32X files are supported. Would I still need the Sega 32x console to play 32x games or does it play on a Genesis through the cartridge? Also does the cartridge fit in the Genesis and Master system without modification or does it just play master system games through the genesis?

>> No.5418903

>>5418898
I have the X5 but im pretty sure you need the 32X still, i mean the processing hardware has to come from somewhere. its no different than putting an real 32x cart in your genesis

>> No.5419619

>>5418340
>what does the Pro version add that the SD2SNES doesn't have?

Right now, nothing. The regular one can play every SNES game except for four shitty japanese board games, because they use special chips that haven't been implemented yet. Krikzz stopped making the regular cart because the parts aren't being made anymore. It's discounted so they can get rid of the last stock.

The Pro model uses parts that are still being made. That's the only reason it exists. It's better hardware, and a larger FPGA, which means it might get cool new features in the future that wouldn't fit on the old cart. But it doesn't have any yet.

Right now, the only pro-exclusive feature is that you can play SA-1 games while also using the MSU-1 (a kind of chip that allows fans to hack in CD-quality soundtracks to games). This is only important for a few romhacks. No official games use the MSU-1 (since its fan-made) and you can use the MSU-1 on non SA-1 games without having to own a Pro cart. It's a pretty niche feature.

Theoretically the Pro version might eventually allow for more features, like save states or Super GameBoy emulation, but nothing has been officially announced, and they aren't 100% sure they can implement either of those things yet. They're experimenting with save states right now but have made no promises yet. So... who knows?

The old cart will be getting every update that actually fits on it, so a few of the future features may actually come to both carts. The most recent update to the old cart was actually about a week ago.

We won't know if the Pro version is worth buying until it gets a better exclusive feature, which will probably at least a year from now, based on how long it's taken Ikari to add new features in the past. 6 months at a minimum, if he gets help.

>> No.5419642

>>5418898
It supporting 32X files means just that, it doesn't emulate the additional hardware contained inside the 32X itself. Additionally no, the cartridge will not fit into a Master System. It will however allow you to play MS games through the Mega Drive's perfect backwards compatibility. They make a Master System-specific Everdrive if you want to run games on one directly.

>> No.5419647

>>5419619
to add to this, msu-1 works fine on the old cart for most games. fpga chips are limited by their size. they're full of little building blocks called "gates" that can be tweaked to simulate parts of other chips. these gates are what let them simulate other chips. but that also means they have to be physically large enough to hold all the gates necessary to simulate a specific chip.
the old fpga has fewer gates than the newer, larger one. the old cart can simulate msu1 OR sa1 but not both at the same time, because sa1 is so big. the new one has enough space for both at once... so it does that.
so technically this is using old code that has existed for months or years. this isn't a 'new' feature, the cart is just bigger.
new features might come later. maybe. eventually. but like you said, they haven't made any promises of new features yet.
if you're buying the pro, you're buying it JUST IN CASE it gets new features eventually. which is cool. but right now theres no benefit, and since the old cart went through 10+ revisions, all with minor upgrades, i'll just wait until new features actually exist before buying the new model.

>> No.5419650

>>5419619
>>5419647
There's something magical about this age of FPGA meaning that you can make devices like Everdrives and Super NTs out of modern, easily available components while still achieving effectively cycle-accurate replication that can even be patched and updated as required. It's pretty glorious, even if it's still early days.

>> No.5419679

>>5419642
Ah thanks for clearing that up , I was hoping the cartridge just fit in to both the genesis and the master system but oh well. Just bought the SD2SNES today , going to pick up the Mega Everdrive X7 if the SD2SNES is as awesome as I think it is

>> No.5419738

>>5417583
>value of flashcarts

OP here, I am very happy with my SD2SNES because I can play common games I have tucked away in my closet without digging them out and I can play hacks and translated games just as easily.

>>5418340
>Canada
I bought my SD2SNES from the only Canada listed website on Krikzz list of stores and I got royally fucked. The barebones product is great, the circuit board is official, but it comes in a shitty shell that somebody hacked with a dremil and the SD card wouldn't even fit into the slot and the cart fit crooked into my console so I had to grind it more myself. They also list their prices WITHOUT A CURRENCY and being a .ca website located in Ontario I figured it would be CDN but when I got my bill it was US DOLLARS and this was when the US dollar was worth 1.25 Canadian so I paid around 300$+ for it when I was expecting mid 200's.

I bought my Everdrive64 on Amazon and it came in the official Krikzz box and everything looks amazing and it showed up in two days. I'm having a blast playing with it already.

>> No.5419947

>>5419738
I bought mine from Krikzz.com , getting sent from the Ukraine , with the sale price and shipping was 205 CAD.

>> No.5420007

>>5419947
yeah, so I got fucked.

Here's where I got mine from. And it's USD

http://www.gamersection.ca/product_info.php?products_id=1147&osCsid=84bc73bb9f064be2fc7b7eb1e4475d80