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Anonymous Fri Mar 1 08:33:55 2019 No.5404040 [Reply] [Original]

Am I the only one who thinks this game is not that bad? I mean it was pretty innovative for a licensed game; a survival (sorta horror) platform with dinosaurs. It's kind of a 2D Resident Evil 2 (and specifically RE2 because of the Raptors, which are extremely rare, but as terrifying as Mr.X); you have to be careful on how you use your items and ammo, be efficient and take risks... I mean, this game has some huge problems, but it ain't exactly that bad

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 1 08:49:59 2019 No.5404062 >>5404040 I thought it was great. Blew my mind as a kid that it had two separate campaigns also, some of the music was really good https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vBmBy8vchCw

Anonymous Fri Mar 1 09:00:01 2019 No.5404081

>>5404040
I don't know about the Sega version, but the Amiga version had a FPS section at the end while the rest of the game was a top-down affair.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dgSL7Ml4j-I
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HIqbR2YT5b8

I believe this game was very different on each platform.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 1 09:09:36 2019 No.5404094 >>5404081 Not exactly, the Amiga version is the same as the SNES version, just a tad more polished.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 1 09:14:38 2019 No.5404115 >>5404040 >It's kind of a 2D Resident Evil 2 So 2D dino crisis with a Raptor mode?

Anonymous Fri Mar 1 09:40:46 2019 No.5404160
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>>5404040
I love both the Genesis JP games. There used to be a guy on here who thought the first one is excellent and Rampage Edition sucks but I don't agree with that. I think both are a ton of fun, some great music too. I only played each once or twice as Grant, the raptor is the fun way imo.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 1 10:16:45 2019 No.5404204 File: 126 KB, 800x769, 1549903264645.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5404115 Fuck, I forgot about Dino Crisis, holy shit

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 1 12:33:19 2019 No.5404397 File: 717 KB, 2016x1512, 10973E9C-9D77-494C-8C38-372502ACC44C.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5404040 This and Rampage Edition are freaking awesome, had so much fun with them as a kiddo.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 1 13:08:09 2019 No.5404460 Presentation was nice, the problem was the platforming. Hitboxes/collision detection and level design wasn't really good and ultimately restrained me from enjoying the rental.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 1 13:09:47 2019 No.5404465 >>5404397 took me years to beat rampage. megusta

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 1 13:33:50 2019 No.5404509 so what's the deal with rampage edition anyway? why is grant going postal?

Anonymous Fri Mar 1 20:54:54 2019 No.5405278

>>5404094
>Not exactly, the Amiga version is the same as the SNES version, just a tad more polished.

Those versions of Jurassic Park were developed by Ocean. Ocean developed Jurassic Park games for the NES, GameBoy, SNES, Amiga and DOS. The Amiga and DOS versions are basically the same game. The Game Boy and NES versions are similar to each other too. The Super Nintendo version is based on the 8bit Nintendo games, but changes around the level design and adds FPS as well.

SNES
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iWePCTDfsFs

NES
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q8UJQB-bNaU

GameBoy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h7zyay1yfgU

All three are surprising good for their respective platforms. Though they can be a bit of a choir without being able to save. To be honest, I liked the NES game more than the SNES game.

The Sega Genesis games were made by BlueSkySoftware, who are best known for the World Series Baseball games on the Genesis, as well as Vectorman 1 and 2. I agree that the first one is great and does have an interesting survival horror aspect to it.

Anonymous Fri Mar 1 21:06:50 2019 No.5405291

>>5405278

I used to like the SNES version as a kid, but I never got past the first "mission". I thought the game would have so much more to offer if only I could figure out where to go. But it doesn't, what you see in the first half hour is what you get until the end. It's more like Sabre Wulf than Zelda.

Anonymous Sat Mar 2 03:43:03 2019 No.5406027

>>5405278
The SNES and Amiga versions were wimilar, but I remember in the SNES version you got rocket launchers and shit whereas in the Amiga one you got a cattle prod and sometiems a shotgun and that was it. I mean what kind of theme park/zoo keeps rocket launchers in their stockroom just in case?

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 2 10:07:03 2019 No.5406383 >>5406027 >I mean what kind of theme park/zoo keeps rocket launchers in their stockroom just in case? Maybe the kind where a resurrected trex might escape and start wrecking shit?

Anonymous Sat Mar 2 14:15:27 2019 No.5406654
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>>5406027
>I mean what kind of theme park/zoo keeps rocket launchers in their stockroom just in case?

Spared no expense. Except for the time Hammond decided to not pay for more than a skeleton crew to run the Park during a dry trial run.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 2 15:06:07 2019 No.5406743 >>5406027 They had a rocket launcher in the book.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 2 16:49:43 2019 No.5407001 >>5406743 A T.O.W Anti Tank launcher system that Muldoon gets to use on a whole bunch of raptors.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 2 17:07:52 2019 No.5407041 >>5406654 To be fair it's just dinosaurs, what could go wron

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 2 17:35:08 2019 No.5407084 >>5407001 It's an M72 LAW, actually.

Anonymous Sat Mar 2 17:41:42 2019 No.5407093
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The Genesis version of Lost World is my favorite JP game but hardly anybody played it because it's a '97 release, so most gamers had already moved on to N64/PSX.

Most of it is top-down like the SNES game but you can drive vehicles and there's a password save system. Level design is basically a series of hub levels, each hub having several "exits" that take you to a mission. Once you beat all of the missions in a hub, you play a 3D perspective level that changes every time but could generally be compared to Space Harrier meets Road Rash; you're always moving forward and just have to worry about dodging obstacles/attacks while shooting stuff.

Pic related is the first special level.

Anonymous Sat Mar 2 17:50:17 2019 No.5407106

>>5404040
It's alright, i guess. Never really beat the game with Grant and don't know what happened to our cart. Raptor is missing 2 missions making a one level feel disconnected from the next (but then the same can be said about said level in Grant's mission). Strange how the manual actually gives you a password to skip most of Grant's missions straight to the Volcano level.

Anonymous Sat Mar 2 17:50:31 2019 No.5407107
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>>5407093
pic related is what most of the game looks like, here the player is in a car that you can enter/exit with a button like in GTA/Halo/Battlefield. There's also a boat, each has a gun.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 2 17:51:40 2019 No.5407109 >>5407107 oh, nm the player character is to the right of the car lol, but you know what I mean.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 2 18:48:56 2019 No.5407229 >>5404040 Of all the JP games, this was the best (not counting the light-gun arcade games)

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 3 00:50:48 2019 No.5407856 >>5407093 I used to rent this game all the time. I had the other two, but never found a copy of this for sale back then.

Anonymous Sun Mar 3 02:35:02 2019 No.5407979

I saw it being played at someones house and it stayed in my head for a while. I thought all the JP games were this and found out the hard way. It was cool to play as a raptor but I remember many of the raptor levels being a little broken in their design.. you could easily fall to your death or jump to far without knowing.. from memory.
I remember there was a crazy jump cheat too. I think you typed something related to Dennis Nedry in the title screen. Haven't played it for so long... I've just got fragmented memories of it.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 3 09:08:51 2019 No.5408412 >>5407979 The levels are the same you just choose either the raptor or Grant. Raptor has better jumping I'd say.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 3 09:20:20 2019 No.5408430 I loved it too. It had some kind of "heavyness" that i liked.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 3 09:20:45 2019 No.5408432 >>5404040 this game feels unfinished

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 3 09:35:33 2019 No.5408465 >>5408432 How so?

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 3 10:05:48 2019 No.5408503 >>5407041 You Mother Fucker!!

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 3 10:07:13 2019 No.5408505 >>5404040 All I know is the digitized T-Rex spoiled me as a kid

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 3 10:31:11 2019 No.5408534 >>5408505 Spoiled or soiled?

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 3 10:37:00 2019 No.5408543 >>5408534 *spooped

Anonymous Sun Mar 3 11:15:25 2019 No.5408602

>>5408412
Grant has 2 extra levels, and the layout is different for the raptor. There is an especially difficult section in the raptor's pump station level where you have to jump on small platforms that are the same color as the sewage they sit in and it's hard to judge your jumps.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 3 21:03:27 2019 No.5409946 So this is the power of Blast Processing? https://youtu.be/xr03931gXCE

Anonymous Sun Mar 3 22:57:31 2019 No.5410157
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I kinda liked the Game gear Jurassic Park game. This one is an original title and was made by Sega of Japan. The game itself plays like Shinobi with Dinosaurs, but there are also driving/ shooting sections too. I guess you control an employee of Jurassic Park, but he is dressed like a Ninja for whatever reason. The only issue is that it was rather short.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=39DPFa-djqU

This game was also ported to the Sega Master System as well for European regions, the UK and Brazil. It is mostly the same game with a bigger screen resolution and a worse colour pallet. But they changed the main character to look like the Grant sprite from the Genesis games.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=39DPFa-djqU

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 3 22:58:39 2019 No.5410160 >>5410157 Copy and pasted the video from the Master System version twice. I meant to post this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oEuecakCxKg

Anonymous Mon Mar 4 00:43:28 2019 No.5410351

>>5410157
>>5410160
I kinda feel like playing it since you described it as "Shinobi with Dinos" and I love Shinobi.

I'm going to emulate it, which version do you think I should play first? I'm leaning towards the higher resolution of Master System over the more colors of the GG version, just because I appreciate being able to see enemies/obstacles sooner.

Anonymous Mon Mar 4 07:09:08 2019 No.5410797
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>>5408602
Huh well there ya go! I really literally only ever played through each of them once as Grant and it was a long time ago now. To me they're raptor games. That jump is a pain when you're not used to it though I agree.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 4 18:54:01 2019 No.5412064 >>5410157 can you believe the Master System/Game Gear Jurassic Park game is practically the only one with a satisfying ending and that ends with a good fight againt the t-rex

Anonymous Mon Mar 4 19:22:58 2019 No.5412147

>>5412064
I actually just played the Master System version for the first time last night. I beat all the levels but got a bad ending about the Park still not being ready to open because I didn't capture the T-Rex.

I did some research and figured out that I'm supposed to collect all of the dino tokens that some enemies drop, that's how you unlock the final stage. I don't know where all of those are and afaik there's no way to know if you missed any and on what level, so I'm inclined to say fuck trying to unlock the T-Rex level and FUCK THIS GAME!

I do like the gameplay though, pity the devs made the end so hard to unlock. Probably just to pad out the game.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 4 19:25:10 2019 No.5412150 >>5404160 Rampage Edition is cool, never played the first.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 4 19:27:34 2019 No.5412154 >>5412147 No, no! All you need is to beat the first 4 stages without losing a continue. The JP icons are just for points.

Anonymous Mon Mar 4 19:32:59 2019 No.5412163

>>5404040
loved the game as a kid. objectively, it's good and bad. pretty polished presentation but the gameplay is kinda cheap and unfair unless you know exactly what to do. but the game fundamentally is pretty fun, so you're okay with trial and error to make up for unintuitive gameplay.

once you know what to do where, it's fun to breeze through. once I could beat it, I would do so regularly.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 4 21:05:22 2019 No.5412370 >>5405278 You forgot about the other snes version https://youtu.be/VSxfmEtSPG8

Anonymous Mon Mar 4 21:36:27 2019 No.5412439 [DELETED]

>>5412370
>You forgot about the other snes version

The Chaos Continues is a weird one, because it's not based on any movies. The Lost World was released in 1997, and this was released in 1995/ Ocean basically made their own sequel to the SNES game. I do like the "animated" intro at the beginning and the heavy use of voice samples. The game is an OK "B-tier" run and gun.

Anonymous Mon Mar 4 21:39:43 2019 No.5412447

>>5412370
>>>5405278
>You forgot about the other snes version
>https://youtu.be/VSxfmEtSPG8 [Embed]

The Chaos Continues is a weird one, because it's not based on any movies. The Lost World was released in 1997, and this was released in 1995. Ocean basically made their own sequel to the SNES game. I do like the "animated" intro at the beginning and the heavy use of voice samples. The game is an OK "B-tier" run and gun.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 4 21:46:43 2019 No.5412457 >>5404040 The first game is awesome, but sadly has slowdown the engine seems sluggish. Rampage Edition has none of those problems but sadly lacks that sweet Jurassic Park feeling that the first game had in abundance.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 4 23:42:39 2019 No.5412671 >>5412447 >Chaos Continues >OK You must have figured out how to get past the very first stage. As for myself, I think it's a fucking awful game but I bet it'd be nice if I could just figure out how to progress.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 5 00:04:30 2019 No.5412708 >>5404160 >There used to be a guy on here who thought the first one is excellent and Rampage Edition sucks That was me. The game looked far more cartoony than the original, worse music, and was too fast.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 5 00:18:15 2019 No.5412741 File: 179 KB, 800x562, jp manual.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5412154 In fact, this is explained in the manual for the game. How does this misinformation persist even today?

Anonymous Tue Mar 5 00:24:03 2019 No.5412757

>>5412741
Well excuuuse me princess, I emulated and played the game for the first time in my life last night. Still haven't retried it, sounds like unlocking the last stage is a pain in the ass without save states but I don't really like using those. Might do it anyway though just fight the T-Rex, it's a pretty dope game.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 5 00:26:10 2019 No.5412763 >>5412741 Like, real talk, that's bad design in 2019. It only makes sense in the context of padding out a game so kids don't beat it on their first weekend rental.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 5 03:19:42 2019 No.5413056 >>5404040 I loved the game as a teen the graphics were awesome too.

Anonymous Tue Mar 5 14:22:08 2019 No.5413973
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Jurassic Park Part 2: The Chaos Continues on SNES has one of the best soundtracks ever, imho. Way better than it had any business to be.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CykJwkq3y6o&list=PLErsx10Ke4uwUItNby08ArDBn5wUbEjkX&index=9

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pdkCf1S5T8M&list=PLErsx10Ke4uwUItNby08ArDBn5wUbEjkX&index=11

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CFLuuznQ7po&list=PLErsx10Ke4uwUItNby08ArDBn5wUbEjkX&index=12

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 5 22:43:53 2019 No.5414919 File: 38 KB, 267x320, 38C9C644-6A64-4D4B-99DB-B0D7C4D67066.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5407107 >the player is in a car that you can enter/exit with a button that explains why i never understood the game.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 5 23:15:35 2019 No.5414961 >>5404062 I knew it would be Visitor's Center. Such a good track. Very Shadowrunish.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 6 05:37:07 2019 No.5415606 >>5414919 Huh?

Anonymous Wed Mar 6 06:34:54 2019 No.5415690

>>5414919
Yeah, you definitely need to use at least the boats to progress. The cars let you get past killer weed plants without taking damage, and there's at least one mission (I'm thinking of a T-Rex chase) where you need to stay in a car to move fast enough to survive.

Most of the time though, I actually kinda ignore the cars except for crossing killer weed fields, as it is easy for me to get carried away with speed and drive into a minefield or something.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 6 06:38:50 2019 No.5415695 File: 2.71 MB, 465x350, jurassic park.webm [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5410157 >>5405278 How many games did this one movie get?

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Anonymous Wed Mar 6 17:59:56 2019 No.5416882

>>5415695

>Jurassic Park (first movie)
- SNES - 1993 - Ocean
- NES - 1993 - Ocean
- GameBoy - 1993 - Ocean
- MS-DOS - 1993 - Ocean
- Amiga - 1993 - Ocean
- Sega Genesis/ Mega Drive - 1993 - BlueSky Software/ Sega
- GameGear/ Master System - 1993 - Sega of Japan/ Sega
- Sega CD/ Mega CD - 1994 - Sega of America/ Sega
- 3DO (Jurassic Park Interactive) - 1994 - Studio 3DO/ Universal Interactive Studio
- Arcade light gun game - 1994 - Sega AM3/ Sega

> subsequent sequels (not based on the first movie)
- Rampage Edition - Genesis/ Mega Drive - 1993 - BlueSky Software/ Sega
- Jurassic Park II - The Chaos Continues - SNES- 1994 - Ocean
- Jurassic Park II - The Chaos Continues - GameBoy - 1994 - Ocean

> The Lost World: Jurassic Park (1997 movie)
- Sony Playstation - 1997 - Dreamworks Interactive/ Electronic Arts
- Sega Saturn (this is a port of the PS1 game) - 1997 - Appalossa / Sega
- Genesis/ Mega Drive - 1997 - Appaloosa/ Sega
- GameGear (not a port of the Genesis game) - 1997 - Aspect/ Sega
- GameBoy(port of the GameGear game) - 1997 - Torus/THQ
- Tiger Game.Com - 1997 - Tiger
- Windows 9x (Chaos Island: The Lost World) - 1997 - DreamWorks Interactive
- Arcade lightgun game - 1997 - Sega AM3

> The Lost World: Jurassic Park subsequent sequels
- Trespasser (First person shooter) - Windows 9x - 1998 - Dreamworks Interactive/ Electronic Arts
- Warpath: Jurassic Park (an arena styled fighting game featuring dinosaurs from the moves) - 1999 - PS1 - Black Ops Entertainment/ Dreamworks/ EA

Then there are also the Jurassic Park III movie based games, but since that movie came out in 2001, I guess it's not retro enough for /VR/.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 6 18:03:50 2019 No.5416893 >>5404040 The raft level sucked ass because of ONE part where you had to drop the boat over the falls but pull back at just the right second or you have to restart the level all over again

Anonymous Wed Mar 6 18:10:43 2019 No.5416906

>>5416882
>> subsequent sequels (not based on the first movie)
>- Rampage Edition - Genesis/ Mega Drive - 1994 - BlueSky Software/ Sega
>- Jurassic Park II - The Chaos Continues - SNES- 1995 - Ocean
>- Jurassic Park II - The Chaos Continues - GameBoy - 1995 - Ocean

Made some mistakes. Rampage Edition is 1994 and the Ocean games are 1995.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 7 06:20:27 2019 No.5418205 >>5412763 You really need to slow down with this bait. You're wearing it out

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 7 20:07:42 2019 No.5419810 File: 12 KB, 958x720, retroarch-1110-230713.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] actually wishing someone would make a hack that replaced all this wolfenstein bullshit with overhead maps

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 7 22:05:23 2019 No.5419993 >>5410157 This one was always my favorite by far.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 7 22:06:54 2019 No.5419995 >>5412147 Just play the Game Gear version. You don’t have collect any tokens to unlock the final level in it.

Anonymous Fri Mar 8 00:11:04 2019 No.5420197

>>5416849

I had this game for the Sega CD, I remember buying it from a yard sale in a large box of junk. This game is such a weird mix of 2D hand drawn art work, CG animated cut scenes and live action FMV cutscenes. It's a point and click adventure game, basically, and it isn't too bad.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 8 00:58:28 2019 No.5420284 >>5407107 Best part of lost world was the 2 player co-op. The only game for the genesis with better co-op is Toejam and Earl

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 8 13:08:17 2019 No.5421528 >>5404040 The intro to the first level with the T-rex spooked me as a kid. And still kinda does as an adult.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 8 13:23:38 2019 No.5421562 File: 22 KB, 673x363, Capture.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5421528 >those eyes as they look in the rearview mirror

Anonymous Fri Mar 8 13:30:51 2019 No.5421571

>>5419810
Same here! The indoors fps sections are such a massive slog to go through.
Back in the day in mid-90s playing the game as a kid I thought it was pretty neat to see such 3D section on the SNES, but that novelty wore out fast, and I found myself wishing the game had overhead interior levels like the NES game.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 8 18:22:03 2019 No.5422187 I wish the snes version had been more of an rpg, with the visitors center serving as a hub of sorts, and you have to find people and do quests to fix the park/escape.

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