/vr/ - Retro Games

[Anonymous No.5403984]

Daily reminder that The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time is the best game ever made, and if you didn't play it when it came out you missed out, you will NEVER get it and there's nothing you can do about it. Good day.

[Anonymous No.5403989]

>>5403984
Based spam poster. Really, I agree, but there's a million of these threads.

[Anonymous No.5403990]

>>5403984
The fishing pond area is better than most full fishing games. Catching the loach back when it was a myth to do so was as close to magical as one can get with video games.

[Anonymous No.5403996]

>>5403984
But I did play it and it was shit anyway

[Anonymous No.5403997]

>>5403989
It's important to remind them.

[Anonymous No.5404000]

>>5403990
Yes my friend, the amount of magic and SOUL that this game had was endless.

[Anonymous No.5404002]

>>5403996
>it was shit

Not OP, but what was shit(tty) about it? It revolutionized gaming in the truest sense. No game before it was as massive. Did it intimidate you? I got to say that even with a guide it can be tough, though it doesn't look it.

[Anonymous No.5404005]

>>5403996
Only someone who DIDN'T play it when it came out or played it recently (which is NOT the same), would say that.

[Anonymous No.5404008]

>>5404002
Don't bother with >>5403996
He doesn't get it and never will. This kind of people cope by calling the game "shit".

[Anonymous No.5404009]

>>5404000
Yeah, friend. :) It just has something about it too, like (and I don't really believe it) when playing the game something about it fully convinces a part of me that it's real. It has an authentic quality that is hard to describe, at all.
Pic related guy will close the gate if you refuse to sell him your mask, something that doesn't need to happen, but it shows consequences in even harmless conversation.

Now this isn't amazing or anything, but the gold cartridge to me is the most fun of all versions since there's more out of bounds areas that can be accessed, even if they crash the game. For some reason I think it's cozy to get behind the fence in Kakariku Village (right before the entrance to the cemetery). It crashes the game if you wander too much over there, but it seems to be the sole purpose of the chicken in the windmill...

[Anonymous No.5404010]

>>5403984
This IS the best game ever!!! I'm masturbating to it right now. Aren't (you)?

[Anonymous No.5404014]

>>5403984
>and if you didn't play it when it came out you missed out, you will NEVER get it and there's nothing you can do about it.
This is horse shit. It's as good for someone to pick up and play through today as it ever was.

[Anonymous No.5404016]

it's a 4/10 desu, really boring and easy.

[Anonymous No.5404017]

>>5404010
I guess it's possible.

[Anonymous No.5404019]

>>5404014
It's still a great game but when it came out it was literally mind-blowing, historic, revolutionary, something never seen before. It's still one if the highest rated games ever, if not outright the highest rated one.

[Anonymous No.5404021]

>>5404014
Even if they've already been exposed to everything OoT inspired? I have a hard time thinking that I'd give Atari's "Adventure" many plays if it weren't for nostalgia.

[Anonymous No.5404024]

>>5404019
>literally mind-blowing
^this

Hyrule Field blew me the fuck away and when I found out that it extended far beyond east to west, I was stunned. The sheer size of the areas made me rethink the ultimate capabilities of video games. Yeah, Zelda I and II are fun and and endearing, but they're empty in comparison to OoT.

[Anonymous No.5404026]

>>5404009
I felt the same way and I think that's exactly what the developers intended. It's related to a development concept and philosophy used by Shigeru Miyamoto in his games, you can read about it if you like.

[Anonymous No.5404027]

Someone needs to release a romhack of OoT that has a sea monster in Lake Hylia-and not a hack of Dorrie from Mario 64 either. Are there any OoT hacks that do this?

[Anonymous No.5404028]

>>5404010
More coping

[Anonymous No.5404029]

>>5404026
>It's related to a development concept and philosophy used by Shigeru Miyamoto in his games, you can read about it if you like.

Sounds compelling.

[Anonymous No.5404041]

>>5404029
It is. Maybe studying those concepts and applying them to game developing is what constitutes SOUL or its lack thereof.

[Anonymous No.5404043]

>>5404005
If the game is great it should be good regardless of the era it’s played.

[Anonymous No.5404045]

ALttP or OoT?

OoT has the superior presentation and build up, ALttP has the superior gameplay.

[Anonymous No.5404047]

>>5404045
I would honestly say ALTTP has superior presentation AND build up, with the fluid 2D graphics, Agahnim actually feeling menacing, and the dark world in general just being spookier.

[Anonymous No.5404050]

>>5403984
HL2 is better :^)

[Anonymous No.5404051]

Did Ura Zelda ever get finished? Is someone going to finish it? Also, I've never played the Master Quest version of OoT, is it worth my time?

[Anonymous No.5404052]

>>5403984
K

[Anonymous No.5404053]

>>5404047
No way dude. Seeing all the places ravaged by Ganondorf, Ganons castle, the destroyed Hyrule, having to rescue all sorts of places has a much bigger impact than roaming around in some world with weird goofy creatures. But ALttP has much richer worlds and much better pacing, no walking around on an empty field or trying to figure out empty, blocky surroundings

[Anonymous No.5404057]

>>5404043
It's still a great game, it will always be, but if you play it now, you compare it to modern games (which were directly influenced by it), and you miss on how mind-blowing, revolutionary and unique it was. There was literally nothing quite like it at the time and people understandably went nuts. That there is what I refer to, and it's forever lost in time. Like tears in rain.

[Anonymous No.5404061]

>>5404053
IIRC hyrule looks completely normal in the future, only the area immediately around the castle is ruined. The dark world is far more ravaged than OOT’s overworld. Also, I feel that ALTTP is overall just a tighter, more focused game.
>>5404057
One can appreciate a game and its historical significance separately you know. Objectivity is only hindered by having fond memories and nostalgia from an era like you clearly do. OOT isn’t a bad game but I found it to be quite bland.

[Anonymous No.5404079]

>>5403984
i rented it and had a go. i didn't get it. i fucking hate rpgs and cutesy gay shit. i thought the character was a girl but it had a boys voice. waste of time

[Anonymous No.5404080]

>>5404061
I don't have particular fondness for that era or for the N64 for that matter (my favorite console is PS3). It is just this game: Zelda OOT. You sound like you played it recently and don't get what the fuss was all about. That is exacrly what I refer to when I say that the game needed to be played in its time to be fully understood in its significance and appreciated.

[Anonymous No.5404083]

>>5404041
should i search 'miyamoto soul' or what because i want to know about this

[Anonymous No.5404086]

>>5404080
I played and beat it about four years ago. And again, I UNDERSTAND why it’s appreciated and its position in history, I just don’t think it’s anything special in the modern day. You really come across as a zoomer LARPing as a boomer by the way, no one gives a fuck about what other people think about the game except for faggots like you who apparently have something to prove.

[Anonymous No.5404087]

>>5404079
If you rented when it came out and didn't stick to it, you missed out. Almost happened to me with Dark Souls 1. Almost dropped it, even made a thread asking what the fuss was all about. Luckily I sticked to and now it's one of my top favorite games of all time (over 400 hours played, still love it). You should have sticked to it man.

[Anonymous No.5404092]

>>5404086
>no one gives a fuck about what other people think

Not them, but can we stop this? Obviously we all care what others think otherwise we'd never come here, read, and post.

[Anonymous No.5404102]

>>5404086
Because you played it recently and compare it to modern games, you dick. That's exactly my point. You also sound like you mad. It's all in good fun, calm down. It's not the end of the world. Maybe someday a game will surpass it and you will play it in time to understand.

[Anonymous No.5404106]

>>5404024
Dont get me wrong, I always liked OoT, but even back when it came out I thought hyrule field was the most underwhelming part of the game compared to the sprawling overworld of ALTTP, Link's Awakening and even Zelda 1

[Anonymous No.5404110]

i like Oot
except the fire temple
i am really bad at jumping

[Anonymous No.5404114]

>>5404083
search "miyamoto kyokan", but there's not much material.

[Anonymous No.5404131]

>>5404106
>even Zelda 1

comeonnow.jpg Other than that I can easily feature what you're saying. Still, it's not as empty as empty, I mean, there's the runner, the peahats and its babies, and Big Poes, plus some hidden holes. It's still impressive for being a functional passageway for levels, before the appropriate ocarina songs make it moot.

[Anonymous No.5404148]

>>5404131
You can actually get lost in Zelda 1's overworld which is more than I can say of Hyrule Field

[Anonymous No.5404174]

>>5404148
>You can actually get lost in Zelda 1's overworld

How? It's so teeny-tiny small compared to just Hyrule Field. Once you got the Lost Woods combination down and that one level too, you're set. OK, that upper left corner is a bitch, but it's just trial and error and it has arguably and demonstrably less possibilities to explore than OoT by far. The things to do in OoT's Lost Woods dwarfs Zelda 1 in entirety. Are you going to tell me that Donkey Kong (arcade) has more content to explore than Donkey Kong 64 too? Face it, the original Legend of Zelda is not far removed from its arcade contemporaries of the early to late 80s.

[Anonymous No.5404178]

>>5404052
Jaden you were only 4 months old to play the game when it came out. You missed out. The cutoff for having played OOT in time is being born NO LATER than the year 1991. If you were born after this date, you couldn't have possibly been old enough to play OOT around the time it came out and you too missed out.

[Anonymous No.5404179]

>>5404174
It’s far, far more intricate.

[Anonymous No.5404182]

>>5404179
>up down left right=complicated
>any direction=primitive

????

[Anonymous No.5404193]

>>5404178
You are being sarcastic right? Surely noone could be this dumb..

[Anonymous No.5404207]

>>5404174
>The things to do in OoT's Lost Woods dwarfs Zelda 1 in entirety
You're dangerously insane

[Anonymous No.5404214]

You will outgrow your infantile taste someday. Maybe.

[Anonymous No.5404224]

>>5403984
Everything involving the Gerudo was just incredible. The city. The desert. That ghost. The Gerudo temple. Using light beams to solve puzzles. It was amazing.

[Anonymous No.5404229]

>>5403984
There's already three OoT threads in the catalog you obnoxious man baby, and it's a shame that we have to dedicate so much space to one of the dullest ARPG series of all time. Seriously, each episode following the boy "adventurer" and his pals from Hyrule as they fight assorted villains has been indistinguishable from the others. Aside from the cartoonish imagery, the series’ only consistency has been its lack of excitement and ineffective use of repetitive puzzles, all to make magic unmagical, to make action seem inert.
Perhaps the die was cast when Nintendo vetoed the idea of a third party producing the games; Miyanoto made sure the series would never be mistaken for a work of art that meant anything to anybody- just ridiculously profitable cross-promotion for their annual "party games". The Zelda series might be anti-Sony (or not), but it’s certainly the anti-Spyro series in its refusal of wonder, beauty and excitement.

>a-at least the platforming elements were good though

"No!"

The writing is dreadful; the exploration was nonexistent. As I played, I noticed that every time Link went to "explore" a largely empty world, Nintendo shoehorned in some repetitive puzzles to pad out the game. I began marking on the back of a Nintendo Power magazine every time I came to the same rehashed box pushing/lever pulling puzzles. I stopped only after I had marked the envelope several dozen times. I was incredulous. Nintendo's team is so governed by cliches and milking tired franchises ad nauseum that they have no other style of development. Later I watched a lavish, loving Let's Play of The Ocarina of Time by some YouTube manchild. He said something to the effect of, "If these kids are playing Ocarina of Time at 11 or 12, then when they get older they will go on to owning a Nintendo Switch." And he was quite right. He was not being ironic. When you play The Ocarina of Time you are, in fact, trained to play the same dull Nintendo rehashes decade after decade.

[Anonymous No.5404254]

>>5403984
I played this game when it came out, and I've beaten it several times, and I still think it's a good game, but it's certainly not the best game ever made, and I never thought it was. This is the definition of over-rating a game.

[Anonymous No.5404260]

>>5404229
Bbbbbbbut baby's first memories of 3D.

At least Majora's Mask had a new gameplay element to it. I still hate OoT and MM, though. Dull, empty, soulless games.

[Anonymous No.5404268]

>Mario 64 with SwoRDS!

[Anonymous No.5404272]

>>5403984
i was 13 when my grandma got me ocarina of time 3d for my brithday :) such good memories getting to experience that game love u grandma miss u

[Anonymous No.5404286]

>>5404272
ur grandma licks dongs

[Anonymous No.5404326]

>>5404272

[Anonymous No.5404332]

>>5403984
>if you didn't play it when it came out you missed out
You mean if you weren't between the ages of 7 and 13 when it came out.

[Anonymous No.5404353]

>>5403984
I played it when it came out and decided that FFVII was the better game.

However, OOT is currently the 9th best game I have ever played.

[Anonymous No.5404357]

>>5403996
C O P E
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[Anonymous No.5404360]

>>5403984
The gameplay holds up pretty well but the lack of a really compelling story hurts the game imo. Yes I know that’s never been a primary focus in the series but Koizumi’s Zelda games are my favorites because he at least tries.

[Anonymous No.5404364]

>>5404357
Do you even know what this means?

[Anonymous No.5404384]

>>5404260
It really is. ALLTP had more soul,

[Anonymous No.5404489]

>>5404272
I know this is bait but Jesus Christ, it’s already been 8 years since OoT 3D came out.

[Anonymous No.5404520]

>>5404260
>>5404384
>soul
>>/v/

[Anonymous No.5404648]

>>5404520
If you don't understand the concept of soul you probably have no taste

[Anonymous No.5404662]

>>5404254
What game is better, more epic, more SOULFUL, more revolutionary and more influential than release time OOT? I'll wait.

[Anonymous No.5404667]

>>5403984
But, I did play it when it came out and I remember it being a 6/10 then, too.

[Anonymous No.5404673]

>>5404662
Zelda II: The Adventure of Link.

[Anonymous No.5404679]

>>5404648
>>>/v/

[Anonymous No.5404689]

>>5403984
It's not not that good.

[Anonymous No.5404697]

>>5404353
Thought it was decent at best as a kid. Replayed it at 23 a few weeks ago and it blew me away.

[Anonymous No.5404737]

>>5403984
Cool and incredible at the time because nothing like it had been done before. An epic, cinematic adventure with stellar atmospheric environments for the tech available. It's important to recognize it because of that.

But you ever sit down and play it today, it's bland, obsolete, and boring now because everything that it did has been taken, built on and improved upon. There are games out today that do everything it did, only much better.

There are games in Nintendo's library that have not been outdone by another game in it's series or another game in it's style since (Mario 64 and Super Metroid come to mind), but Ocarina of time cannot say that. I have played both Zelda games and 3d adventure games since that i have ultimately enjoyed more than Ocarina of time, and whenever i try to play it again, I get bored quickly.

We shall NOT, under ANY CIRCUMSTANCES dismiss what Ocarina of time accomplished and what it did for the industry, but i need to be real about how i feel about it. I can't confidently call it the best game ever like i did back when it was still pretty fresh.

>inb4 Egoraptor plz go

[Anonymous No.5404741]

Played it as a kid and loved it. Eventually switched to ps1/gc and ditched consoles altogether by ps3 era. I played OoT for the first time in well over a decade via emulator around Christmas 2017 and loved every second of it. OoT is objectively one of the best video games of all time.

[Anonymous No.5404745]

>>5403984
OP can I use your post as the template for my ff8 spam threads?

[Anonymous No.5404747]

>>5403984
Cool false flagging.

[Anonymous No.5404754]

>>5404737
You are a total, hopeless moron.

[Anonymous No.5404756]

>>5404737
>But you ever sit down and play it today, it's bland, obsolete, and boring
Literally false based on playing in at Christmas 2017 with an emulator.

[Anonymous No.5404806]

>>5404754
How about you suck my whole dick

>>5404756
Literally false because everyone thinks and feels about things the same way you do, right?

[Anonymous No.5404848]

>>5403996
This

>>5403990
The fishing mechanics are awful. Harvest Moon is an example of simplistic fishing mechanics that are actually good.

[Anonymous No.5404859]

>>5404745
Sure man, go ahead. I also love FF8. It's my favorite FF.

[Anonymous No.5404874]

>>5404224
I agree. THAT MUSIC.
Dem gerudo women man.

[Anonymous No.5404920]

>>5404737
I think it’s still fun but what you’re saying is reasonable and I don’t see why some anons have to shit on your dick when you don’t personally like one of their favorite games.

[Anonymous No.5404921]

>>5404737
You make a compelling arguement and I agree that SM64 and Super Metroid have not been topped, but what I find inconsistent is you kind of calling OOT not that big of a deal and boring, while comparing it to modern games. It makes it sound like you really didn't play it in its time but after it. I mean, how the fuck could anyone not have been blown the fuck out by it? It instantly became the highest rated game ever at the time and it's still up there. Thinking about it, the N64 gave some of the highest highs I've ever had while gaming. Seeing SM64 for the first time and playing OOT back in 1998. Another high was playing Soul Calibur on the Dreamcast for the first time. Those were things that had to be experienced in their time to fully understand them. Gaming has not had moments like those in recent times.

[Anonymous No.5404929]

>>5404848
>The fishing mechanics are awful.

t. uncoordinated and skillless anon. Your patience amazes me too.

[Anonymous No.5404967]

>>5404737
>But you ever sit down and play it today, it's bland,

I agree that the revised versions are bland in comparison. The Gerudu are Muslims and the game is against them. Based Nintendo.

[Anonymous No.5404976]

>>5404921
>Thinking about it, the N64 gave some of the highest highs I've ever had while gaming. Seeing SM64 for the first time and playing OOT back in 1998. Another high was playing Soul Calibur on the Dreamcast for the first time. Those were things that had to be experienced in their time to fully understand them. Gaming has not had moments like those in recent times.
^this anon knows.

I felt the same way, and even felt the same astonishment when playing Shadows of the Empire if only that they finally did the Battle of Hoth justice. For a time, SOTE on the N64 was THE best Star Wars video game experience, arcade games included. The N64 is an underrated system to put it mildly.

[Anonymous No.5404985]

>>5404921
>Gaming has not had moments like those in recent times.

Until true VR comes, it's unlikely that we'll ever experience such jumps again. When I went from Atari and Intellivision to Super Mario Bros. on the NES I literally exclaimed that:"It's like a cartoon!" and sadly many younger anons thinks that's a bad thing. No, the NES was basically a home arcade system and it blew us the fuck away.

Someone (maybe in this thread) likened ealier jumps to VHS to DVD, whereas today's jumps are more like DVD to Blu-Ray, yes a noticeable improvement, not not as dramatic as previous examples.

[Anonymous No.5404990]

>>5404921
>Gaming has not had moments like those in recent times.

Until true VR comes, it's unlikely that we'll ever experience such jumps again. When I went from Atari and Intellivision to Super Mario Bros. on the NES I literally exclaimed that:"It's like a cartoon!" and sadly many younger anons think that's a bad thing. No, the NES was basically a home arcade system and it blew us the fuck away.

Someone (maybe in this thread) likened earlier jumps to VHS to DVD, whereas today's jumps are more like DVD to Blu-Ray, yes a noticeable improvement, not not as dramatic as previous examples.

[Anonymous No.5404993]

>>5404985
>true VR
That shit has existed since the 80s.
It won't be "true" VR until they actually connect something to your nervous system.
We might see it in our lifetime, but I doubt it will be what we expect.

[Anonymous No.5404997]

>>5404993
>That shit has existed since the 80s.

Just no.

>>5404993
>We might see it in our lifetime, but I doubt it will be what we expect.

Are you joking? We literally have quantum computers that are connecting to 2 to the 500th power computers in the confirmed other dimensions. And you think true VR is far away?

[Anonymous No.5404998]

>>5404997
>Just no.
Yeah, literally just using visuals attached or close to your face and some external controller. That's not real VR.
Call me when people actually start connecting their nervous systems to a computer and tricking their brain into believing they're living some artificial reality.

[Anonymous No.5405010]

>>5403984
that's not smac
I'd have also said deus ex but that aint retro

[Anonymous No.5405014]

>>5404998
It's funny how he mentioned quantum computers, the other massive failure of what what was supposed to happen. There are also no quantum computers like there was supposed to be and there also never will be until well after youngest zoomer here is long dead if at all.

[Anonymous No.5405016]

>>5404990
Yeah, the jump is not as impressive nowadays as it was before. I wonder if it ever will be? with diminishing returns and all. I'm convinced that almost all of the PS4 library could be recreated on PS3 hardware with exact gameplay and some graphical downgrade, but still fully retaining the aesthetics and artistic vision. That kind of thing could not possibly happen on previous generations because the jump in quality and complexity was too great from one generation to the next.

[Anonymous No.5405026]

>>5403984
>and if you didn't play it when it came out you missed out, you will NEVER get it and there's nothing you can do about it.
False and a shitty thing to say. Anyone can play OoT today and find it really good.

[Anonymous No.5405031]

>>5404976
Yeah man N64 was a beast when it came out. It just ended up being overshadowed by the massive appeal and library of the PS1. Definitely an underrated system.

[Anonymous No.5405161]

>>5405026
Also false. I replayed it this month and sucks compared to when I played it 20+ years ago. It's anti-nostalgic now.

On the other hand, I still enjoy the older 2D zelda's, LttP especially.

[Anonymous No.5405171]

Shitty game.

[Anonymous No.5405195]

>>5405161
>I replayed it this month and sucks compared to when I played it 20+ years ago. It's anti-nostalgic now.
Probably because you already experienced it, you know what's going to happen.

[Anonymous No.5405196]

no one cares about your shitty 2d games

[Anonymous No.5405207]

>>5405195
Nah. I still enjoy replaying other older games even though I've played them so much. I'm about to replay LttP, which I do every few years or so. Wish I still had Zelda II. Might have to buy it again.

[Anonymous No.5405223]

>>5403984
>Ocarina of Time is the best game ever made, and if you didn't play it when it came out you missed out, you will NEVER get it and there's nothing you can do about it.
why do you do this to me ; _ ;

YAMEROOOOOOOOOO

[Anonymous No.5405284]

>>5404737
Which game outdid Majora's Mask?

[Anonymous No.5405424]

>>5405284
Why is Majora’s Mask even considered so good? Yeah I guess it’s “dark” and weird but the gameplay is typical Zelda for the most part.

[Anonymous No.5405428]

I had OoT at launch and I consider it a classic, but I never quite felt it was THE best. Definitely the best Zelda until Breath of the Wild, sorry, I just love it but I still would take a number of other games over it, even in the action-adventure genre. I think it’s just that I miss the jumping. I could probably never put an action game with no jump button at the top of my pantheon.

[Anonymous No.5405437]

>>5405424
Back in the year 2000, "typical" Zelda wasn't very stablished, MM was only the 2nd 3D Zelda. And it introduced a lot of new things unique to it such as mask transformations, the time-reset mechanic/time manipulation and an emphasis on sidequests/NPC schedules more than dungeons and the main quest.

[Anonymous No.5405507]

>>5405424
Because it's well-designed and fun, as was typical for Zelda games

[Anonymous No.5405519]

>>5403984
You could say this about any game, really.

[Anonymous No.5405521]

>>5405519
>Daily reminder that Rise of the Robots 2: Resurrection is the best game ever made
Dunno about that.

[Anonymous No.5405536]

>>5405521
Okay, you could say that about a lot of games.

>Daily reminder that Deus Ex is the best game ever made
>Daily reminder that Halo Combat Evolved is the best game ever made
>Daily reminder that Duke Nukem 3D is the best game ever made
>Daily reminder that DOOM is the best game ever made
>Daily reminder that Ultima Underworld is the best game ever made
>Daily reminder that Morrowind is the best game ever made
>Daily reminder that Super Mario World is the best game ever made
>Daily reminder that Sonic 3 is the best game ever made

[Anonymous No.5405794]

What OP says is The absolute untarnished truth, and it's hilarious to see everyone who missed out trying to make themselves well better by denying simple truth

[Anonymous No.5405802]

>>5405437
>>5405507
Sure I guess. It’s a good companion piece to Ocarina but I still don’t think it deserves the ‘best Zelda ever’ praise that it gets online.

[Anonymous No.5405803]

>>5404086
Sorry friend, you don't actually understand. And you missed your chance to ever truly understand two decades ago. You missed out, and you'll never truly know how much.

[Anonymous No.5405837]

Shit thread OP.
I played it last year for the first time and I was impressed by it.
Kys

[Anonymous No.5405842]

No doubt that it's a great game, assuming you're brain damaged or have never played a game before, or have a "special" definition of fun.

[Anonymous No.5405845]

>>5405837
>>5405842
COPE
O
P
E

[Anonymous No.5405851]

>>5405845
>COPE

This almost screams to me: Just throw it in the trash. Don't even bother selling it on ebay or at a pawn shop.

I would literally have no problem smashing my 20+ year old cartridge of OoT with a hammer. That's how little it means to me.

..A Link to the Past on the other hand...

[Anonymous No.5405852]

>>5403984
why is this game allowed this excuse when games like doom are still fun?

[Anonymous No.5405869]

>>5405794
What's hilarious is seeing your level of cope about basing your entire life's experiences off a video game.

[Anonymous No.5405873]

>>5405845
>implying zoomers give a shit about N64 games

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZRTtIoSiq4

They just destroyed a 110$ cartridge with a sledgehammer for laughs, you think this thread bothers them, or even anyone else?

[Anonymous No.5405881]

>>5405873
Good try.

It's barely worth $20 on ebay.

[Anonymous No.5405898]

>>5405881
I mean, that's about how much Ocarina of Time is, so...

[Anonymous No.5405909]

>>5405898
so... what? Are you implying that any N64 game is worth... anything? Show proof, or stfu.

[Anonymous No.5405913]

>>5405536
>Super Mario World
funny, that's not Super Mario Bros 3

[Anonymous No.5405916]

>>5404489
Fuck...

[Anonymous No.5405917]

>>5405913
>Implying SM3 > SMW

I WILL KILL YOU IN YOUR SLEEP!

(gently; hypothetically)

[Anonymous No.5405918]

>>5405909
No, I'm saying it's an above average action adventure game from the 90's that isn't worth a whole lot.

[Anonymous No.5405919]

>>5405909
T H I S
reminder that Gen 5 3D is the equivalent of Gen 3 2D

Gen 6 is the important generation for 3D gaming influences like Gen 4 is the important generation for 2D gaming

>>5405917
SM3 is an absurd outlier, it managed to be so close to the pinnacle of platforming that even if you prefer SMW SM3 gets a pass for being developed earlier on inferior hardware

[Anonymous No.5405920]

>>5405918
>from the late 90's

Ok, Whew. Glad to know we're on the same page.

[Anonymous No.5405921]

>>5405873
>They just destroyed a 110$ cartridge

No, they destroyed a worthless cart. Something is only worth what something is willing to sell to someone who will buy. They fucked just themselves.

[Anonymous No.5405923]

>>5405919
You're less than 30 or 35 years old if you really believe that.

[Anonymous No.5405934]

>>5405923
take off your nostalgia goggles before you post, you're seeing things

[Anonymous No.5405941]

>>5405934
I'm literally blind. But thanks, asshole.

[Anonymous No.5405943]

I'm so stoned that I can't tell who's on whose side, but all I know if that Super Mario Word is a piece of shit that's hard to get int, while Super Mario Bros. 3 is friggen perfect for what it is. Not saying it's a perfect game, but as the third sequel it's not only better than 2 (yeah fake 2 and the real 2), but it's really established the character, if there was any doubt in 1 and 2 that is; with 3, they hit it out of the park. World is just the dessert that you don't want or need that gets tossed in the dumpster.

[Anonymous No.5405946]

>>5405941
Not them, but you got to know that most people aren't thining about blind people and more than they think about Juggalos. Not saying your'e the same at all, but most people do not consider you because you're rare, not because they got some sort of problem with you. Can we just agree that Juggalos need to be rounded up and dealt with?

[Anonymous No.5405948]

>>5405946
>>5405943
Fuck both of you.

[Anonymous No.5405952]

>>5405948
Same person, sunshine.:) Tell me, what exactly don't you like?

[Anonymous No.5405964]

>>5405952
No.

Please don't kill yourself. Keep on going on.

[Anonymous No.5405970]

>>5405016
You put that in the best terms, anon. Yeah, I think that even if we could technically go from Edison reel-to-reel to beyond Blu-Ray (yeah I realize actual 35mm;et al is even better) our conscious minds woundn't recognize it as such because of the inherent "sameness" is would seem to have. Like a dirty 1960s Corvette vs a shiny one.

[Anonymous No.5405971]

>>5405964
What? lol Kill myself? You want me to kill myself? My dude, I feel great; I ain't killing myself. How about you? Do you understand that being blind doesn't make me want to treat you differently, right?

[Anonymous No.5405975]

Trying psychic Juju on me? ;)

[Anonymous No.5405976]

Oh I can feel your attempts, even hear them.

[Anonymous No.5406070]

>>5405424
ALttP had 12 dungeons. Majora's Mask has 4 that are much more complex than previous ones with the rest of the game focused on characters, character interactions, helping them with their fate and seeing their daily lives play out over 3 days. I mean why make such an ignorant statement? I don't know if any other gay that has this particular focus and surpassed MM.

[Anonymous No.5406105]

>>5405424
The more time you spend around Zelda fans the more you'll realize that most of them don't care about the gameplay they just want fake deep plot and shallow love stories between Link and whoever the closest female to Link is in the game. They could make the next Zelda with buttery smooth controls, more combat and mobility options than you can shake a stick at, non intrusive new ideas, and puzzles and themes we've never seen before but if it didn't have walls of text or Link and Zelda didn't share enough glances at each other they'd just be like " :/ .... I just think this isn't the right direction :/ .... really letting me down here... :/ I just.... :/ I expect better. :/ So shallow.... "

[Anonymous No.5406113]

>>5403984
so youre admitting it's bad in 2019?
i agree.

[Anonymous No.5406148]

>>5404326
>>5404489

How is it bait though? the 3DS version came out 7+ years ago, that would make >>5404272
anything from 14 to 21 years old.

[Anonymous No.5406183]

>>5403984
OoT is probably one of the most overrated things around. Not saying it's bad but this thing has so many questionable design choices that it can't pretend to be anything more than decent. There's a reason the sequels kept getting worse, it's because the developers decided to built upon everything what was wrong with this game. Also OoT is probaly guilty of the awful quality of games today.

[Anonymous No.5406207]

>>5406183
Amazing. Every word in your post is wrong.

[Anonymous No.5406220]

>>5405223
>>5405794

[Anonymous No.5406261]

>>5406113
Not at all. OOT is like The Beatles of videogames. Will there ever be a greater band than The Beatles? it's possible. Can a person truly grasp how incredibly popular, influential and great they were in their time by listening to them now? Not really, because there is a subjective but very important part of the experierience that is lost forever if you didn't experience it in its own time. I don't get The Beatles just like all this people here don't get OOT. Just trying to make an example, I'm not directly comparing the two things.

[Anonymous No.5406262]

>>5406207
You chose to avert your eyes from reality long ago, at this point you'll even pretend that a turd is a shining piece of gold.

[Anonymous No.5406307]

>>5406261
The Beatles are also not all that great in 2019 because everyone copied them and improved upon what they started.

[Anonymous No.5406315]

>>5406261
So you keep on with this idea of how "influential" OoT was, great... what fucking good is that to anyone around today? What's this "you'll never get to experience it because you weren't around then", wtf are you talking about. Bro stop insulting OoT by acting like it's not a great experience today, you're embarrassing Zelda fans.

[Anonymous No.5406336]

Shitposting aside, there is no “best game ever made”.

[Anonymous No.5406389]

Mystical Ninja Starring Goemon was close.

It came out before OOT and had a bigger world, equally good or better music, and equally good mechanics. It's only downfall was its garbage dungeons compared to OOTs amazing dungeons.

[Anonymous No.5406394]

>>5406315
It really wasn't that influential. Resident Evil, Metal Gear Solid, FFVII, SM64, the original 2D Zelda gamees, original 2D Mario, Doom, etc. had way way more clones than OoT. In fact I can't think of too many games that were OoT clones or that copied significant amount of mechanics from OoT like those other games which spawned endless copycat games. The one thing OoTfags always scream about is the "Z targeting," auto targeting in 3D was already a thing before OoT, so the argument that OoT was so amazingly influential is bullshit. The only thing it influenced was shitty 3D Zelda games that completely left all sense of exploration, secrets, and challenge behind in the 2D realm.

[Anonymous No.5406486]

>>5406070
I can see why it’s a divisive game. I played through it a few years ago for the first time and really didn’t care for the focus on sidequests and I absolutely hated everything about the Termina Bay section. But hey, to each his own. My favorite Zelda is Wind Waker so I’m used to getting shit.

[Anonymous No.5406494]

>>5405852
>Doom
>fun
lmao play better fps games

[Anonymous No.5406502]

imagine being triggered by 1998 one of the best years of gaming. THE ABSOLUTE STATE OF /vr/.

[Anonymous No.5406505]

@5406394
@5406262
KYS

[Anonymous No.5406531]

>>5404009
>when playing the game something about it fully convinces a part of me that it's real. It has an authentic quality that is hard to describe, at all.

Don't worry man. I know *exactly* what you're talking about and have no doubt that thousands upon thousands of others experience this too. Likewise, I can't really describe it properly or elucidate how it comes about either, but the game seems to have this unique quality of 'world presence' that just isn't quite there in anything else in the same way. It's something that seems so go beyond simple immersion, you get this impression of this awareness of the world in its totality and how each of its aspects relate and co-exist, and it's quite unlike what any other game does.

[Anonymous No.5406540]

>>5404737
>There are games out today that do everything it did, only much better.

What are these games even? Evey game I've played that tried to copy Zelda's format implements it comparatively woefully.

[Anonymous No.5406548]

>>5406394
>etc. had way way more clones than OoT.

Yes, of course. That's because producing a 3D Zelda style game in the vein of OoT/MM is so hard as fuck that almost nobody even tries to attempt it. 2D Mario and Doom are easy as hell to mod, clone and vary.

[Anonymous No.5406558]

>>5406261
you're right that the immediate sensation isnt something you can copy. i've never been excited about new games, because when i was younger i couldnt afford em and now im older i dont like them. i'm never in the hype or paying attention.

beatles still sound good.

[Anonymous No.5406571]

>>5406394
Couldn’t disagree more. Super Mario 64 and Ocarina pretty much set the standard that nearly all third person 3D games have followed since.

[Anonymous No.5406581]

>>5403984
reminder that Deus ex, Thief, and System shock 2 are better and will propably never be surpassed

[Anonymous No.5406724]

>>5403996
You actually sound like a sane person.

[Anonymous No.5406726]

>>5404016

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XOC3vixnj_0

[Anonymous No.5406728]

>>5406581
I like all of them for different reasons. And none of those games are even in the same genre as oot

[Anonymous No.5406759]

>0 days since /vr/ last cried over OOT

[Anonymous No.5406762]

>>5406726
>posting egofaggot's shit opinions

[Anonymous No.5407530]

>>5406726
Retarded video and I stopped at 1:57. Link already had a story from I and II, you dunce. Started it again at around 6:30...so all you got to say about OoT is that "it's hard". Gotcha. Also, you don't need to z-target to fight, smart guy. Then he (you) bitches over the camera? lol Get fucked.

Also, I hate how ALttP looks. Deal with it; the N64 Zelda's are the best.

[Anonymous No.5407543]

>>5406726
People that are bad at games should be disallowed from posting videos of them. At 8:33 complains that there's a "waiting time" when enemies are z-targeted; he spits out that "attacking them during this time is useless", which is totally false.

Dude, you can spam the enemies with attacks and if you are good, you'll hurt them with no "waiting times."

[Anonymous No.5407641]

I recently bought myself a 2dsxl and OOT came with it. It's my first time playing it and it's been pretty fun so far. How does Majora's Mask compare?