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Hi everyone, I would like to start building my own collection of old games and consoles, any advice on how to get started and some tips?

>> No.5402867

Don't. Emulate instead.

>> No.5402892

You're pretty much fighting uphill these days in regards to prices. Frankly, if I didn't have what I do, I wouldn't want to try to get into it today.

Same thing happened to my other hobby, military surplus rifles. I got lucky and caught the last days of decent prices there.

>> No.5402895

My tip is try out emulation, and consider the type of people you see with rooms full of video game stuff. Do you *really* want to be one of those guys?

>> No.5402907

If you want to collect something cheap, work on Atari. Otherwise be prepared to drop thousands upon thousands of dollars.

>> No.5403094

>>5402864
>any advice on how to get started and some tips?
yes, unless you absolutely care deeply about "owning" games, invest immediately in solution to play backup roms for your systems. It's so much smarter to be buying retro hardware right now rather than games. Software will always just be software and can be copied and played back with perfect accuracy (flash carts), but the hardware is never going to be produced again.

If you don't care about actually playing games though and more interested in the collecting aspect physical games, I just don't know what to tell you.

>> No.5403108

If you don't have it in your hand, you don't own it!

>> No.5403123

>>5402867
Completely and ironically this. If you have to collect, just do your favorite 1 or 2 childhood consoles. If the retro consoles are not part of your childhood, just get the modern equivalent, like the analoge super NT or such. Carts are not worth collecting, get the best flash cart you can afford. Buy a few of your childhood favorites if you must.

Seriously desu, you're too late to the retro collector party. If you just want to play the games emulate or flash cart. There is no shame in it and at this time it's not worth starting a collection.

If you want "cheap" start with 6th and 7th generation and don't have expectations of getting truly "cheap" games and such since ebay is a thing.

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>>5402864
>some tips
If you know you would like to own something, Ignore emulation dweebs. Find systems that you are familiar with in some way to start. Playstation is a good system to start with because they are cheap. It is very easy add a mod chip or a gameshark to play backup discs.

>>5403094
>invest immediately in solution to play backup roms for your systems.


This is great advice. I am in this school of thought, and this poster shares my sentiment on the hobby. Learning to clean and repair controllers and other peripherals goes a long way in the hobby.

The only other thing I could think as advice: Clean out each and every system you buy. Make sure there are no cockroaches nesting inside of them. You don't want to bring that headache into your house.

>> No.5403565

I've been emulating for years. There's nothing wrong with it, in fact its better than the "authentic experience" in many ways. But once I started collecting retro games,it just felt more "right" to me as faggy as that sounds. I like knowing that I own a piece of gaming history, and having to spend money on games allows me to focus on a select few number of games at a time rather than hoard a bunch of free roms that I'll most likely never play. Retro game collecting definitely isn't for everybody though. It costs a lot of money, requires a lot of space, these consoles are getting so old now they're essentially rotting away and most likely will require repairs, and you have to deal with ridiculous prices and re-sellers. But if you haven't tried emulation yet, at least do that first to see if you enjoy the games before you invest so much time and money into a hobby you don't really enjoy.

If I were you OP, I'd start collecting for just one console to see if you really enjoy it. Like >>5402907 said, Atari is probably the cheapest you can get in terms of retro game collecting with most games ranging from 5-15 dollars, and the system itself can be found pretty cheap too. But if you want a really good system, maybe the SNES or Genesis could be your cup of tea as 4th gen is the most iconic retro gaming era with TONS of great games to look into. Good luck trying to find a good 2 player game for the SNES below 30 bucks though. Would maybe recommend an old school CRT since these games were designed to work with one and they are not hard to find, but not everybody has the space of course. Or you could just play on what you are familiar with, whatever you choose.

>> No.5403593

>>5402864
15 years late kid enjoy getting jew'd hard for anything decent

>> No.5403685

>>5402864
Just pick your 2 favorite consoles and collect for them. Also pick your 2 or 3 favorite genre of games and collect those.

>> No.5403884

>>5402864
>i want to jump on the bandwagon after the wagon has left, broken down, rotted into dust, and the wagon road has been paved over and turned into a strip mall
wew lad

>> No.5403907

>>5402864
Yard sales. Start there and then scour ebay. Buy the carts that are at 60 before they hit 80 and beyond, and remember to buy backwards in time. Buying that way can help you recoup your money in the future if you have to because at least you won't miss the bus on the newer stuff "maturing". People forget that trading can come into play as well when supplies dwindle.

>> No.5404084

>>5402864
>any advice on how to get started and some tips?
Don't treat it like a mindless collecting hobby, only get the games you actually like to play. Just collecting games is pretty dull and doesn't make much sense

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>>5403108
Here, have all NES games bro

>> No.5404096

>>5404090
Good luck playing Castlevania III on any random emulator. Also Castlevania I likes to crash on them all. Many such cases.
Sad!

>> No.5404103

>>5404096
>still using nesticle in $current_year

>> No.5404112

>>5404103
Castlevania I crashes on FCEUltraGX too. I got to the Grim Reaper and it fucking froze,(wasn't using save states) so it's a good thing I have a cartridge of it.

>> No.5404116

>>5404112
>emulating on a wii

>> No.5404135

>>5403094
This

Focus on consoles and not games. Flash carts and ODE's exist for most systems and they'll give you access to most if not all of a system's entire library for the price of a few physical games. In some instances it'll even be cheaper hardware-wise. For example, an FDSStick and RAM adapter is a much cheaper option than a decent working disk system.

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>>5403907
>Yard sales.
WHOA! CRAZY DUCK HUNT FIND DUDE, AND YOU ONLY PAID $50!? OMG

>> No.5404141

>>5404116
>>emulating on a wii

It crashes on every emulator, anon. And I love my modded Wii. Easily emulate everything from 1975-2000ish comfortably with some N64 and most PS1 being the limit. Not bad at all and it manages to play say...85 to 90% of anything I'd want to play, so I win.

>> No.5404145

>>5404136
That guy,eh I just dislike him. Pic related. That game is not rare and should never be sold any higher than 10 bucks in great shape.

>> No.5404149

>>5402864
Start with local flea markets.
The genesis still has reasonably priced games and the consoles go for about $40

>> No.5404551

>>5402864
Buy shit 15 years ago. Or wait another 15 and prices will likely havedropped by then. Seriously though if you have a lot of money to throw around go to a local game shop, explain your situatio and see if you can work out a deal to save some money on a big purchase. Mom and Pop stores exist only because of customer loyalty, so if you can establish a good rapport with the owner you will have a reliable source for games with a possinle discount. Most games in small stores are marked at or higher than market value. Finding killer deals is the way to make it in this money pit of a hobby.

I recommend a Super Nintendo, it's well loved for a reason and if you lived through the 90's it will be a nostalgia bomb. Honestly though it's timeless. If you have even a passing interest in older gaming then it's a joy. I would recommend Super Mario World, Super Mario All-Stars, A Link to the Past, Chrono Trigger, and Castlevania IV. Some of these games are cheap as fuck and others are extremely pricy. These are just my favorites, price not factored.

If you are a poorfag then I recommed getting a really good system that can emulate; Wii, PSVita, PSPgo, and obvious PC are great choices. You can find romsites pretty easily by being savvy woth google, don't bother asking here as most wont tell you so the sites don't get shut down.

Hope that helps a bit!

>> No.5404557

>>5404551
The last systems I recommended were more of a one time investment kind of thing, and wont give you the same experience as actual hardware/software. Some optios are cheaper than others

>> No.5404631

>>5404551
>I recommend the most heavily inflated, autist-populated, ridiculously expensive system of the lot!
holy kek kys

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>>5404631
Go ahead and recommend a system to OP that addresses the flaws you see in my suggestion. Also you are the cancer killing this board ect. ect. 3/10 blah blah got em

>> No.5404654

>>5402864
just get games you're actually going to play

>> No.5404740

>>5402864
>buy hardware
>buy flashcarts and ODE
>find backups using Google

>> No.5404771

>>5404651
Sega Genesis

>> No.5404896

Buy an RS-97 or a GPD XD+ and play on the go.

>> No.5404918

>>5402864
depends what genres you even like to play. that said it's all uphill these days
>space shooters: turbografx
>platformers: snes
>action games: genesis
>fighters: neo geo

>> No.5404931

Get flash carts if you insist on real hardware. Just emulate otherwise.

>> No.5406710

>>5404141
I played all the NES Castlevanias again when Bloodstained got announced and I got no crashes at all, and I've seen plenty of other people stream or speedrun them in emulators and it didn't crash for them either. Lying on the internet is not a good idea.

>> No.5406775

>>5402864
Buy a sega dreamcast mod it
Play burnt CD-it's on it.

If your going to emulate buy controllers that match the system your emulating.

If your going to say buy a SNES get a overdrive to play all games.

The used game market prices are too high right now.

>> No.5407124

>>5406710

It does randomly crash, idiot. Don't call people liars when they're telling the truth, cuntosaurus rex. I'll never emulate that game again, when trying to really beat it.

>> No.5407196

>>5407124
Prove it, then.

>> No.5407230

>>5407196
Sure thing. I forgot to mention that I hadn't died much, unlike most dopes on YT and the game does not like stage-III holy water being thrown at the Grim Reaper. Just play the game with the holy water and get to the Reaper with stage-III holy water, it'll freeze 50/50 shot.

Castlevania I has a weird flaw, anon, that even affects the carts of it, like y'know how the game can start without music? It does that emulated and non-emulated, so that should be your first clue that pure emulation is bad news for it.

>> No.5407234

Moreover, Castlevania was produced when the chips for it were in short supply (it was a criminal conspiracy to short chips to boost prices) and 100:1 all Castlevania cartridges have inferior chips that lead to the errors and lockups.

>> No.5407240

>>5407230
That's the most bullshit and self-serving explanation I ever heard.
"I'm too good for the game so it crashes, everyone else is too scrub to cause the crash"
Nevermind TASes exist, speedruns with both original hardware and emulation exist, streams with pretty good players, etc.
So what do you want to sell us, friend?

>> No.5407245

>>5407240
You fucking lazy ass. God forbid you play an easy Castlevania that can be blown through in less than a hour if you're decent.

Anon, I'm one of the THE best video game players on the planet, so if I tell you something, it's real. Disbelieve or be a punk if you want, but that's stupid.

>> No.5407246

>>5407245
Now you are just pulling my leg.

>> No.5407250

>>5407246
In what way? Castlevania 1 is not too hard if you're familiar with it. Hey, if you doubt that I'm good, that's one thing, but you can research the Castlevania carts yourself and learn all about the alleged chip shortage and its consequences.

>> No.5407258

>>5402867
This, but unironically.

>> No.5407261

>>5407250
Because Castlevania 1 isn't that hard, so I don't get what's to brag about it. Even those youtubers you call dopes can clear it without dying once, live and without states or rewind, so at this point I'm pretty sure you are just fucking around.

>> No.5407267

>>5407261
>Even those youtubers you call dopes can clear it without dying once

Usually cheaters. Cheating is rampant on Youtube. Some admired tubers are dirty cheaters, one is pretty popular, but he regularly does stuff that is impossible...without a game genie code.

Not fucking around. Go play the game and keep the holy water, upgrade it to stage-III and fight the Reaper with it, you stand a 50/50 chance of locking up the game. Btw, when it freezes one day, remember me. :)

>> No.5407270

>>5407261
You keep ignoring the chip issue. There are even advertisements from back in the day that mentioned that shortage. It's obvious you were unaware of it.

>> No.5407274

>>5407270
I don't give a fuck dude. You are just stroking your ego here and that's a lot more amusing.

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>>5407274

Incorrect, jackass, that's you. The lower right on the ad shows it.

>> No.5407280

>>5407278
I'm more amused at the fact that you are trying to shit on emulation when even the original hardware gives issues, lol.

>> No.5407281

That brings up another lost fact, many people bought Castlevania II purely because the first one was not available due to the intentional chip shortage.

>> No.5407284 [DELETED] 

>>5407280
That's your takeaway? I'm presenting facts that show that emulation isn't perfect, but emulate the time, with games that can handle it.

>> No.5407285

>>5407280
That's your takeaway? I'm presenting facts that show that emulation isn't perfect, but I emulate the time, with games that can handle it.

[Edit: emulation the Wii is near perfect pre-1995]

>> No.5407286

>>5407284
Someone still hasn't realized I'm fucking around with him.

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>>5407286

>> No.5407292
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>>5407290
I mean you came at us all like "I'm the fucking best player ever" what do you expect.

>> No.5407294

>>5407292
>I'm the fucking best player ever"

Show me where I said that. Saying (the truth) that I am one of the best is a fact, so maybe I've got something to say regarding video games, anon. You sound threatened. It's just video games, I didn't cure a disease.

>> No.5407295

>>5407294
I included a screenshot what the shit, lol.

>> No.5407301

>>5407295
"I'm one of the best" is not the same as "I'm the best", anon.

>> No.5407305

>>5407301
Sure.

>> No.5407312 [DELETED] 

>>5407305

That's hard to comprehend? No one knows who the best player in the world is, but it is possible to know how is among the best. To say that I'm just "ok" or slightly above average is a lie because I'm far and away better than that. This is a common thing nowadays, people want everyone else to stay at mediocre levels otherwise they're "lying" or "trolling" when in reality the status quo (that we all help create) is intolerant to superior ability, even if it's just in video games. Imagine, being threatened by someone's VIDEO GAME abilities.
Many such cases.
Sad!

>> No.5407315

>>5407312
Modesty is a virtue, anon.

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>>5407305

That's hard to comprehend? No one knows who the best player in the world is, but it is possible to know who is among the best. To say that I'm just "ok" or slightly above average is a lie because I'm far and away better than that. This is a common thing nowadays, people want everyone else to stay at mediocre levels otherwise they're "lying" or "trolling" when in reality the status quo (that we all help create) is intolerant to superior ability, even if it's just in video games. Imagine, being threatened by someone's VIDEO GAME abilities.
Many such cases.
Sad!

>> No.5407317

>>5407315
Video games is one area of life where I refuse to be modest.

>> No.5407341

>>5407316
Btw pic related was a "lie" until the developers said, "oh yeah they're real". Now, the supposed myth is that there's a way to trigger them properly without a code or Gameshark, but even I doubt that one.

>> No.5407368

>>5402864
Why isn't ps2, xbox, game boy advance or gamecube retro yet
They are almost 20 years old

>> No.5407380

>>5407234
This is stupid reasoning. If the ROM chips are defective the better way to play is via a verified ROM image and emulator.

>> No.5407386

>>5407316
You dont know youre among the best in the world, only in the communities you frequent, and only via faulty self-assesment. Youre probably autistic or trolling though, congrats on the (you).

>> No.5407389

>>5407368
Being years older than you doesn't make them retro, kiddo

>> No.5407447

>>5407368
the cut off is the year 2000 kid

>> No.5407475

>>5407380
lol You don't even realize wtf you just said.

>>5407386
>You dont know youre among the best in the world

t. frequent Game Over screen patron

>> No.5408975

>>5402864
watch MJR
>>5403132
>Make sure there are no cockroaches nesting inside of them
this isnt a literal thing, is it?

>> No.5409515

Im in the same boat, OP.
I just want to grab all the stuff I've had and sold over the years, replay some classics, play some exclusives I never did before and what not.
But even with games I could get on PC, I think it would be a lot comfier booting them up on an old console.

>> No.5410703

>>5404141
It sure doesn't crash on the NES Classic.

>> No.5410718

>>5410703
+1 Nintendo.

>> No.5410723
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5410723

I really want to buy a PC Engine and the SD System 3 but just the add-on itself is $400. Way too much money, maybe I'll come back to it if my tax return is big enough this year.

Most likely just going to use a modded Wii for PC Engine anyway, and decide later if I want to make that kind of purchase.

>> No.5410809

>>5402864
It's not too late to get into the hobby. It is too late to be a completionist. Tracking down deals on the stuff you want is 99% of the fun of collecting anything.
Some tips for collecting in general that also apply to video games;
set goals. The more defined the better. Like getting a complete game franchise or a specific consoles releases. You'll spend less money if your buying has reason than if you just gobble up every game that looks interesting that comes your way.

Buy in lots. If a lot has something you want, but some others you don't you can sell off the excess to recoup your loses. My brother did this to great effect with comic books.

Go to a convention on the last day as close to closing as you can. The vendors are more likely to make deals to prevent themselves from hauling unsold merchandise back home on the last day. You can also apply the buying in lots idea here too by offering to take some less desirable titles you may be interested in as well as the main game you want if the vendor is willing to come down on the prices of each just to get rid of them.