Does this console have any actual good games on it that can compete with Ocarina of Time, Super Mario 64, Final Fantasy VII, MGS?

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Anonymous Tue, Feb 19, 2019 15:13:10 No.5382257 [Reply] [Original]

Does this console have any actual good games on it that can compete with Ocarina of Time, Super Mario 64, Final Fantasy VII, MGS?

>>	Anonymous Tue, Feb 19, 2019 15:17:22 No.5382260 >saturd into the trash it goes

>>	Anonymous Tue, Feb 19, 2019 15:17:34 No.5382261 Nope. Enjoy your arcade ports.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Feb 19, 2019 15:39:40 No.5382290 >>5382257 >Ocarina of Time, Dark Saviour. >Super Mario 64 Ninpen Manmaru. >Final Fantasy VII Panzer Dragoon Saga. >MGS Lupin III: Pyramid of Sage.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Feb 19, 2019 16:13:43 No.5382358 >>5382257 No, its like they designed a good better 2D followup to the Genesis and then forgot to release the same kinda iconic games for it.

Anonymous Tue, Feb 19, 2019 16:44:48 No.5382402

>>5382257
Well, I saw that it had Shining Force III, which I know nothing about except that it's a JRPG.
Unfortunately, the overwhelming vast majority of its games were Japan exclusive.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Sega_Saturn_games
For the NA releases, the lineup was just as bad, if not worse, than the Xbox 360's.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Feb 19, 2019 16:53:52 No.5382415 >>5382257 report and hide

Anonymous Tue, Feb 19, 2019 16:55:44 No.5382419

As a huge saturn fan, I can admit that you won't get any experience like mario 64, however its library offers a great selection of shmups, fighting games, most of which never seen on the n64 or playstation, and if ported to the playstation, the saturn version was often better.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Feb 19, 2019 16:59:54 No.5382427 >>5382257 sure panzer dragon 3 costs as much as these games together

>>	Anonymous Tue, Feb 19, 2019 17:00:15 No.5382430 >>5382419 >the saturn version was often better fuck off fanboy, the saturn versions of multiplats were always complete shit.

Anonymous Tue, Feb 19, 2019 17:06:20 No.5382443

>>5382257
No, but does PSX or N64 have a fighting game as good as Fighters Megamix, a racing game as good as Sega Rally, a puzzle game as good as Hanagumi Taisen Columns, a beat 'em up as good as Die Hard Arcade, or a shooting game as good as Radiant Silvergun?

Anonymous Tue, Feb 19, 2019 17:06:40 No.5382445

>>5382430
I didn't say all multiplats, I said shmups and fighting games. I'm so sorry for actually trying to have a discussion, I guess that makes me a fanboy, even though I own a saturn, n64, and ps1, and would openly admit to the saturn being the worst of the 3. People like you project their fanboy-ism so hard it's cringe.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Feb 19, 2019 17:12:18 No.5382460 >>5382430 woa someones cant live without dem slightly better transpharencies

>>	Anonymous Tue, Feb 19, 2019 17:12:54 No.5382461 >>5382445 >speaks out of his ass >boo hoo why joo guise are mean to me boo hoo

>>	Anonymous Tue, Feb 19, 2019 17:16:15 No.5382465 >>5382461 not a single argument given. Now you're trying to make me out to be too sensitive or something. Grow the fuck up, I'm sorry you can't afford that many consoles and so you have to pretend there's only 1 good one or something.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Feb 19, 2019 17:27:03 No.5382484 NiGHTS Grandia Dragon Force Virtual On Guardian Heroes Panzer Dragoon 2 Exhumed Duke 3D

>>	Anonymous Tue, Feb 19, 2019 17:29:02 No.5382487 >>5382461 What are you talking about you spastic? Contribute something meaningful or go back to /v/

>>	Anonymous Tue, Feb 19, 2019 17:29:48 No.5382489 >>5382290 in whose dreams?

>>	Anonymous Tue, Feb 19, 2019 17:39:11 No.5382512 >>5382489 dunno saturn vs both n64 and ps is kinda unfair

>>	Anonymous Tue, Feb 19, 2019 17:40:33 No.5382515 >>5382261 You have to put that statement in context though. Seeing some of the Saturn’s excellent arcade ports back in the 90s was amazing to me. From my understanding the Saturn still has the best version of some arcade games to this day.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Feb 19, 2019 17:42:27 No.5382520 >>5382257 No. Don't listen to the shills that push PDS. Comparing that snoozefest to OoT or FF7 is laughable. There's some interesting stuff on the Saturn if you speak Japanese, but a lot of it is stuff you can play on other platforms anyway.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Feb 19, 2019 17:54:49 No.5382537 File: 27 KB, 250x250, spyro.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] pansy dragon ultra

>>	Anonymous Tue, Feb 19, 2019 18:20:55 No.5382591 >>5382257 DoDonPachi alone is better than anything on the 64

>>	Anonymous Tue, Feb 19, 2019 18:23:38 No.5382601 >>5382257 Truth is it doesn't have a single good exclusive on it

>>	Anonymous Tue, Feb 19, 2019 18:25:27 No.5382606 >>5382591 DoDonPachi isn't even a good shmup Cavedrone Saturddrone. Einhander trumps all shmiups on Saturn.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Feb 19, 2019 18:42:03 No.5382632 >>5382606 >Einhander Dodonpachi rapes that boring "le so cinematic" dadshit.

Anonymous Tue, Feb 19, 2019 20:32:34 No.5382816

>>5382257
>Does this console have any actual good games

The answer is usually yes. Stop enjoying your media in relative terms; one game doesn't have to compare favorably with another in order to be enjoyed. I play lots of games for different reasons. Sega Rally Championship isn't the sprawling adventure that Ocarina of Time is, but I still put tons of hours into it because it's a fun ass game. Now go get a Saturn bitch

>>	Anonymous Tue, Feb 19, 2019 21:29:41 No.5382893 >>5382632 >dadshit Is this supposed to be an insult? Kids these days.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Feb 19, 2019 22:12:29 No.5382963 >>5382257 No. Nintoddlers should stick to Nintendos.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Feb 19, 2019 22:37:38 No.5383003 File: 94 KB, 640x448, 53956-Bulk_Slash_(J)-5.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] BULK SLASH

Anonymous Tue, Feb 19, 2019 22:44:09 No.5383019

>>5382257
No it just happens to have some really good arcade ports.
.the dreamcast has good arcade ports too.
The thing that's cool about the saturn is it can do the early 90's big sprite arcade stuff the ps1 couldn't. But it's 3d is not as good as ps1.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Feb 19, 2019 22:45:37 No.5383021 >>5382430 The saturn did big sprites better then ps1. The ps1 did 3d better

>>	Anonymous Tue, Feb 19, 2019 22:48:47 No.5383027 >>5382257 >compete with Ocarina of Time, Super Mario 64, Final Fantasy VII, MGS? nothing to compete against, in that selection.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Feb 20, 2019 00:34:45 No.5383193 >>5382427 Burn ISOs and use the disc swap trick.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Feb 20, 2019 00:57:56 No.5383227 >>5382430 lmao kys https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XqbXtAagX2A

>>	Sage Wed, Feb 20, 2019 01:25:37 No.5383262 >>5383003 Unironically this

>>	Anonymous Wed, Feb 20, 2019 06:06:59 No.5383571 >>5382427 >panzer dragon 3 You mean Saga?

Anonymous Wed, Feb 20, 2019 06:21:26 No.5383579
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>>5382257

Nice one. Its the other way round i am afraid. The PSX and N64 had never ending streams of mediocre titles, such as you listed up there. If crappy mass market titles are your cup of tea stay on your glorified shovelware consoles.

Anonymous Wed, Feb 20, 2019 08:20:08 No.5383681

The PLEBSTATION doesn't do 2D. It's a pure 3D machine. 2D games ported to the Plebstation run on 3D engines. There is not a single SNK or Capcom 2D Arcade port which isn't crap on PSX, due to NO 2D hardware support and not enough RAM. You are worhipping an under-powered piece of crap OP.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Feb 20, 2019 11:09:31 No.5383863 >>5382591 >DoDonPachi alone is better than anything on the 64 imagine being this delusional. besides, your weeb ass shooter is better on the playstation, actually

>>	Anonymous Wed, Feb 20, 2019 11:26:36 No.5383891 >>5383681 >>5383579 its ok to admit the saturn wasnt as good.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Feb 20, 2019 11:27:45 No.5383892 /vr/ is full of hipster gamers. FUCK YOU FAKE GAMERS

>>	Anonymous Wed, Feb 20, 2019 11:38:02 No.5383906 >PSX, N64 BAD >SATURN GOOD THE ABSOLUTE STATE OF /vr/.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Feb 20, 2019 11:45:31 No.5383914 >>5383681 but marvel vs capcom and last blade are pretty good

>>	Anonymous Wed, Feb 20, 2019 11:52:42 No.5383916 File: 19 KB, 400x300, brule.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5383681 Oh, damn. If only the PSX could handle two or three ports of decent arcade games. Guess I'm stuck with just a few dozen 5th-gen classics! What a piece of shit.

Anonymous Wed, Feb 20, 2019 11:55:10 No.5383919
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>>5382257
Sega tended to be more action arcade oriented so it doesn't have close analogues to all of them. I like Legend of Oasis more than any Zelda game I've played, but I'm also not a huge Zelda fan.

Likewise there aren't a lot of strong RPGs (Rayearth is alright though badly translated) or anything that's really like MGS for example. But in my mind that's the strength of the system, it has very different games and I like variety.

Guardian Heroes
Astal
Dark Savior
Dragonforce
Gun Griffon
As well as heaps of fighters were all favorites back then. If I only had to pick either a Saturn or PS it probably would have been a hard choice though.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Feb 20, 2019 11:58:59 No.5383927 >muh muh arcade games

>>	Anonymous Wed, Feb 20, 2019 12:03:24 No.5383932 >>5382465 >why you not eating shit, you too poor to buy a bag of shit? >hahaha fucking poorfags, can afford all the shit i love to eat

Anonymous Wed, Feb 20, 2019 12:18:33 No.5383956
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How many Saturn games used all six face buttons AND the shoulder buttons? There aren't a whole lot of controllers anymore with all of those. What's a good strategy for emulating that shit?
>inb4 "don't emulate gen 5"

Anonymous Wed, Feb 20, 2019 12:35:02 No.5383980

>>5383956
>How many Saturn games used all six face buttons AND the shoulder buttons? There aren't a whole lot of controllers anymore with all of those. What's a good strategy for emulating that shit?
Xbox One or Ps4 controller?
>4 face buttons
>2 bumpers
>2 triggers

it's really not hard

>>	Anonymous Wed, Feb 20, 2019 12:37:13 No.5383982 >>5383956 Radiant Silvergun uses all face buttons and shoulder buttons

Anonymous Wed, Feb 20, 2019 12:38:57 No.5383993

>>5383932
Not him but you're basically just spouting that the games you don't like are shit and not worth playing. Which you're entitled to whatever opinion and taste in games you like, but the Saturn had a ton of unique cool games that appealed to fans of arcade and action games.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Feb 20, 2019 12:41:05 No.5383996 >>5383993 >haha i don't regret buying this overpriced piece of shit joo guise, it gots butchered ports and doesnt afraid of anything

Anonymous Wed, Feb 20, 2019 12:58:55 No.5384021
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>>5383996
That's correct, I never regretted buying it for a second. You might not be as into games and that's fine but I loved my Saturn and Playstation both. It's a weird thing to try and troll someone over from my perspective lol.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Feb 20, 2019 13:03:46 No.5384032 >>5384021 Except playstation is actually good, while saturd was always and forever will be saturd.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Feb 20, 2019 13:07:51 No.5384039 File: 956 KB, 304x127, 2141 (1).gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5384032 I think both are pretty great. You don't have to agree though. Stick to one console if it's what makes you happy.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Feb 20, 2019 13:07:55 No.5384040 >>5384032 It's not nice to bully losers, anon.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Feb 20, 2019 13:11:53 No.5384047 >>5384040 How is the loser the one with access to more games? Lol. Trolling on /vr/ has gotten so surreal lately, it's like you don't even pretend to like games anymore.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Feb 20, 2019 13:19:52 No.5384058 >>5384047 >i have acess to more shit >why your not eating shit >you too poor to buy and eat a bag of shit? >hahaha fucking poorfags, i can buy and eat all the shit i was born to eat

>>	Anonymous Wed, Feb 20, 2019 13:25:30 No.5384068 >>5384047 Defensive much? I was talking about the Saturn being a loser because it came in 3rd place in the console race.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Feb 20, 2019 13:26:37 No.5384069 >>5384058 Sorry I like many different kinds of games lol.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Feb 20, 2019 13:27:52 No.5384071 >>5382290 >pitting Dark Saviour against OoT I'm amazed your post wasn't ironic. Also, are you really comparing a rail shooter against an RPG?

>>	Anonymous Wed, Feb 20, 2019 13:28:22 No.5384072 >>5384068 Ahh console wars! How timely!

>>	Anonymous Wed, Feb 20, 2019 13:29:24 No.5384073 >>5384071 Neither of those is either a rail shooter or and RPG though... Have you even touched a retro game in your life?

>>	Anonymous Wed, Feb 20, 2019 13:31:40 No.5384079 >>5384072 It's not console wars to point out objective sales of each hardware, or how poorly managed the Saturn was outside of Japan.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Feb 20, 2019 13:36:06 No.5384082 >>5384073 Fuck, I'm illiterate. It said SAGA which is indeed the RPG, I just read Panzer Dragoon and stopped there. It still doesn't compare at all to FFVII tho.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Feb 20, 2019 13:37:10 No.5384086 >>5384069 Liking games is one thing, eating shit is another, you shit eating mondoloid.

Anonymous Wed, Feb 20, 2019 13:40:23 No.5384092
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>>5384079
Sorry I don't really care about the console war stuff to start with or which had sold more here or there, all I ever cared about were the games. Neo Geo also sold pretty poorly but it never made me love it any less. If just caring about what's most popular is all that interests you that's great, I've just never felt that way when ot came to games. The trolling over it is trying super hard though and that is a little funny.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Feb 20, 2019 13:41:26 No.5384094 >>5384082 Lol >>5384086 Double lol

>>	Anonymous Wed, Feb 20, 2019 14:03:32 No.5384135 >>5382290 cringe and yikes

Anonymous Wed, Feb 20, 2019 19:51:18 No.5384759

I need some help. I have a model 2 japanese saturn and i can't get the modchip to work. Its a sanyo model. I tried soldering to the cd board for the 5V and i had no luck. i went to the psu board and got about the same results. the cd drive will either not spin at all or just take the hell off and spin indefinitely. Any ideas? Also, my sanyo doesn't have a trap board

>>	Anonymous Wed, Feb 20, 2019 21:52:21 No.5384910 >>5383863 This just proves both Saturn and Playstation shit on the n64.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Feb 20, 2019 22:04:50 No.5384937 >>5384910 Perosnally, I'll take both N64 and Saturn over PS1. I loved the PS1 as a kid, but today I rarely go back to it.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Feb 20, 2019 22:22:20 No.5384975 >>5382257 >Ocarina of Shit in with those other games kek

>>	Anonymous Wed, Feb 20, 2019 22:23:25 No.5384979 File: 32 KB, 564x564, 3be3af7267647f29d2d4930d50480e17--tom-hulce-people-laughing.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5384975 >he likes Final Fantashit 7

>>	Anonymous Thu, Feb 21, 2019 00:39:09 No.5385192 >>5382257 Mario 64 is the only good game on that list, and even then it's aged poorly outside of the Bowser levels.

Anonymous Thu, Feb 21, 2019 00:50:54 No.5385209

>>5382257
No. It has good games, great games, but not iconic games. Examples being Panzer Dragoon series, Shining Force III, Radiant Silvergun and Guardian Heroes. All great games in of themselves, but not on an iconic level.

It's strongest point is its library of arcade perfect or near-perfect ports. You buy a Saturn for CPS-2 games, Taito, Konami, and SEGA arcade ports. Everything else is just a bonus.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Feb 21, 2019 01:09:46 No.5385226 >>5385209 "Iconic" games are overrated anyway. Who cares if some dumb normie can tell you the name of a fat blue and red plumber with an annoying voice?

>>	Anonymous Thu, Feb 21, 2019 01:42:34 No.5385281 >>5385192 >aged

>>	Anonymous Thu, Feb 21, 2019 08:59:22 No.5385670 >>5384759 pic

>>	Anonymous Thu, Feb 21, 2019 09:01:36 No.5385674 >>5385281 >still not understanding common English

Anonymous Thu, Feb 21, 2019 11:03:41 No.5385812

>>5385670
Thanks, I got it to work somehow without changing much of anything. I swapped the flex cables around so that the longer, double sided cable that was already in the console goes from the modchip to the CD board and the shorter one sided cable that came with the modchip goes from the motherboard to the chip. A good reseating of all the connections probably didn't hurt but I had tried that a handful of times before it worked.
I'm pretty excited. I'd never played a Sega saturn before getting this one.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Feb 21, 2019 11:15:28 No.5385825 lmao people thinking the saturn library is as good as the ps1 and n64 ones

>>	Anonymous Thu, Feb 21, 2019 16:09:57 No.5386346 >>5385825 lmao nintoddlers think the n64s tiny 90% shit library can compare with the saturns

>>	Anonymous Thu, Feb 21, 2019 16:53:57 No.5386434 >>5386346 but muh collectathons that only interest autists but muh racing games that get boring after 30 minutes but muh first person shooters that run at silky smooth 10fps but muh legend of queer elf

Anonymous Thu, Feb 21, 2019 16:55:37 No.5386439

>>5385825
>>5386346
>>5386434
wow, it's another series of basic boy posts on 4chan
what a total shocker, it's almost like actual gaming is irrelevant to you guys and shitposting is way more important

I can't wait for a bunch of stock replies to this post

>>	Anonymous Thu, Feb 21, 2019 16:59:17 No.5386447 >>5384092 >Neo Geo also sold pretty poorly but it never made me love it any less. because it's a fucking arcade board, my guy the fact that the best arcade board of all time still has enough good games to be a mediocre console, is pretty remarkable

>>	Anonymous Thu, Feb 21, 2019 17:00:43 No.5386453 >>5386346 >lmao nintoddlers think the n64s tiny 90% shit library can compare with the saturns how does it feel to not have Resident Evil 2, Tony Hawk or Hydro Thunder?

>>	Anonymous Thu, Feb 21, 2019 17:03:31 No.5386461 >>5386453 feels good since those games are garbage

Anonymous Thu, Feb 21, 2019 17:30:16 No.5386516
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>>5386447
Okay sure but again all I really care about is the games. Was Saturn successful with the masses? I guess not, but that's never really mattered to me. Also most of the hardcore trolling in this thread has come from people who don't seem like they've ever seen an actual Saturn at all. And that's on top of the baseline of "OMG you suck because you were able to buy the consoles you wanted! LOSER!!!" It's pretty hard to take any of this thread seriously.

Anonymous Thu, Feb 21, 2019 19:03:50 No.5386684

>>5382257
The answer you're looking for is no. Beyond a handful of comparable games (Legend of Oasis, Panzer Dragoon, Burning Rangers, Dark Savior) the Saturn does not have games to compete with those in depth adventure titles.

However the Saturn excels in plenty of genres the N64 never touched. The N64 and Saturn were for two very different markets which when compared are like apples an oranges (hence the fanboy autism). N64 sought to reach new bounds, push 3D hardware, make adventures, and explore the future of gaming. The Saturn was for a very different person, one who adored Arcade titles and similar playing games. Fighting games, shooters, RPGs, puzzle games, and arcade ports are its specialty.

There's a very different angle you have to take the Saturn from. Maybe at the time, it was very much playing catch up and releasing older titles, but nowadays it is still the definitive way to officially play a lot of arcade titles. Playing Space Harrier and Afterburner II with the mission stick is an unbeatable experience for me, but that's my opinion.

Anonymous Thu, Feb 21, 2019 19:59:12 No.5386770

>>5386439
>it's almost like consolewarring underage are irrelevant to you guys
Nah. It's exactly like that

>>5386453
I wouldn't know. I have each of those many times over including dupes of all the N64 versions. What's super hilarious is how in 2019 underage are too retarded to understand that even as poorfags they could emulate and enjoy nearly all the old games. Apparently shitposting is more fun for them.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Feb 21, 2019 20:14:09 No.5386786 >>5383996 It did street fighter and the marvel crossover fighting games better than the ps1

Anonymous Thu, Feb 21, 2019 20:23:25 No.5386801
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>>5386684
I may be in the minority but I think the time when there were 3 really different consoles trying to get all sorts of people into games was a wonderful time.

Anonymous Thu, Feb 21, 2019 20:36:14 No.5386813

>>5386801
5th gen is definitely super polarizing, considering how many companies threw their hat in the ring. Your console had to stick out, so the big three had some very interesting ways of doing so.

I would see it how i said, with N64 and Saturn pleasing two different markets, and I would see the Playstation as being the bridge in-between. It works as a best of both worlds, with almost no genre left behind.

Anonymous Thu, Feb 21, 2019 21:19:30 No.5386891

>>5386813
>5th gen is definitely super polarizing

That's what I don't get. Why the polarization? I could kind of see it back then, when we were all younger and had less options. But now? It's just amazing to see all the cool games we got. Who wouldn't want to play them all?

>>	Anonymous Thu, Feb 21, 2019 22:19:08 No.5387046 >>5386891 99% of nu-/v/ is young with less options. They can't fit more than a handful of CD games on the 8GB SD in the phone they emulate on.

Anonymous Thu, Feb 21, 2019 23:27:40 No.5387186

>>5386891
Everyone who went into 5th gen with any sense of brand loyalty watched their favorite team get its ass kicked by a newcomer. Nintendo lost some of its most valuable developers and a few years later Sega fucking died.

Those scars don't fade easily. People in general have a hard time accepting that what's done is done. We spend our whole lives agonizing over past mistakes, like we could make things happen a different way if only we bitched enough. Thus, we post our thoughts on the internet.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Feb 21, 2019 23:38:03 No.5387201 >>5383003 Bulked and slashpilled.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Feb 22, 2019 00:50:29 No.5387294 File: 108 KB, 945x720, 0391F717-9E42-4D7D-AA49-972F72CE820B.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5387201 So many waifus, how do you pick?

>>	Anonymous Fri, Feb 22, 2019 01:11:13 No.5387323 >>5387186 In reality most sane people grew out of videogames and moved on with their lives, it's only channer trash that still obsesses about it because middle school of 1997 was the peak of your shitty life.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Feb 22, 2019 02:13:00 No.5387389 >>5382257 Panzer Dragoon Saga Shining the Holy Ark Shining Force 3 Deep Fear Sega Rally Darkstalkers Daytona CCE Street Fighter vs X-Men Sega Ages Virtua Cop 1 and 2 Virtue Fighter 2 Fighters Megamix Last Bronx Magic Knight Rayearth Dragon Force

>>	Anonymous Fri, Feb 22, 2019 02:14:49 No.5387390 >>5387186 "The past tempts us, the present confuses us, and the future frightens us."

>>	Anonymous Fri, Feb 22, 2019 05:35:59 No.5387565 >>5382591 DoDonPachi was also in PS1.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Feb 22, 2019 05:57:16 No.5387592 File: 10 KB, 320x224, 118124217151.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5387186 Maybe that's why it's always seemed silly to me. I over all liked Sega more, but the idea of having brand loyalty to a company has never made a lot of sense.

Anonymous Fri, Feb 22, 2019 06:07:31 No.5387598

>>5387592
>never made a lot of sense
Neither does shitposting about games you don't like instead of playing ones you do but people do that too.
4chan doesn't make a lot of sense. Neither does video gaming really, once you cut it a certain way.

Console warriors aren't really about sense. For everyone else, I've always recommended actually playing video games instead of talking about them.

Anonymous Fri, Feb 22, 2019 06:25:57 No.5387629

>>5385812
You probably had the ribbon connected backwards like a retard.

The sanyo drives have one of the sync signals inverted, so you need to fuck with the jumpers which just change how many times the signal is inverted through a 7404 on the modchip. It changes timing and fixes things for the Sanyo drive.

Anonymous Fri, Feb 22, 2019 08:21:46 No.5387751
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>>5387598
I wasn't even talking about 4chan per se. I find the console war stuff here just funny because it seems even more absurdist all thesr years later. But even then, actual loyalty to companies makes no sense as does being mad at a company because they did better than some other company.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Feb 22, 2019 17:55:54 No.5388682 >>5383003 Great game, but it can be completed in an hour so /vr/ would never hold it in any high regard.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Feb 23, 2019 17:39:41 No.5390676 If I was going to pick up a saturn does it matter if I get a Japanese or US console if I'm going to pirate anyway?

>>	Anonymous Sat, Feb 23, 2019 17:42:44 No.5390683 >>5390676 Only if you care about playing KOF95 or that ultraman game that comes with rom cartridge

>>	Anonymous Sat, Feb 23, 2019 18:08:39 No.5390735 >>5390683 A while back some guy was working on an all in one pseudo cart that would let pirate those ¥100 carts for $100 or so. Don't know if it ever got made.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Feb 23, 2019 18:09:56 No.5390738 >>5390683 Even then you can just install a region switch into a US Saturn, it's not that hard. Though the White Japanese Saturn is quite nice looking.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Feb 23, 2019 20:41:08 No.5391034 >>5390738 >the White Japanese Saturn Very accurate. There is literally only one left that's still white.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Feb 23, 2019 23:06:03 No.5391314 >>5382290 i love those games

>>	Anonymous Sat, Feb 23, 2019 23:15:56 No.5391330 >>5382402 all 3 scenarios of SF3 have been translated

>>	Anonymous Sat, Feb 23, 2019 23:18:32 No.5391336 >>5382443 sokyugourentai is (in my opinion) better than radiant silvergun

>>	Anonymous Sat, Feb 23, 2019 23:22:16 No.5391339 >>5382515 sfa3

>>	Anonymous Sat, Feb 23, 2019 23:26:10 No.5391343 >>5383891 i peesonally think more saturn games aged better than N64 games

>>	Anonymous Sat, Feb 23, 2019 23:28:58 No.5391349 >>5391336 soukyu sucks a fat dick too. the only good st-v shmup is guardian force

>>	Anonymous Sat, Feb 23, 2019 23:29:40 No.5391353 Does the same guy make these threads every time?

>>	Anonymous Sat, Feb 23, 2019 23:32:03 No.5391357 >>5384082 ff7 was way overhyped. all it wins is how much money was spent on advertising it

>>	Anonymous Sat, Feb 23, 2019 23:32:57 No.5391359 >>5388682 How is it as a score attack in terms of replay value?

>>	Anonymous Sat, Feb 23, 2019 23:40:26 No.5391367 >>5391349 well. thats like... your opinion, man

>>	Anonymous Sat, Feb 23, 2019 23:41:14 No.5391369 >>5382257 in the hunt is a good one

>>	Anonymous Sun, Feb 24, 2019 01:00:41 No.5391463 >>5391359 Not sure about score attack, but it has different endings based on who you choose to be your co-pilot.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Feb 24, 2019 07:49:12 No.5391914 >>5382257 Shining Force 3 Panzer Dragoon Saga Thunderforce 5

>>	Anonymous Sun, Feb 24, 2019 07:49:43 No.5391916 >>5385825 There's nothing on N64

>>	Anonymous Sun, Feb 24, 2019 08:08:33 No.5391943 ITT: console warriors who hate variety

Anonymous Sun, Feb 24, 2019 08:24:48 No.5391968

>tfw growing up in the countryside with no internet in Europe and when you ask your parents for a console they buy a Saturn
Finding decent game was a pain in the ass, store only had garbage and the good stuff never came out here. Spent more time playing demos of virtual on and tomb raider than on actual games

>>	Anonymous Sun, Feb 24, 2019 09:13:15 No.5392047 >>5391968 What games were you able to get?

>>	Anonymous Sun, Feb 24, 2019 10:34:03 No.5392195 >>5392047 Fifa 97, the horde, virtua fighter and alone in the dark iirc

Anonymous Sun, Feb 24, 2019 10:45:48 No.5392208

>>5391968
Had the same experience with Dreamcast. Not sure how it was on Mega Drive but Sega had major problems with distribution in Europe. You could get PlayStation games from everywhere but Sega stuff was only sold in special stores in major cities.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Feb 24, 2019 11:17:09 No.5392269 >>5392208 My experience with the dreamcast was much better, a friend of mine had it and had no trouble finding the big games for it. Virtua Tennis was fucking great

>>	Anonymous Sun, Feb 24, 2019 11:31:41 No.5392294 >>5392195 Ouch. I feel your pain then.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Feb 24, 2019 11:36:06 No.5392312 >>5387186 >brand loyalty I never had this and never understood it. I just followed the good games.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Feb 24, 2019 11:41:25 No.5392320 >>5392312 Congrats you're actually a gamer. I legitimately don't understand where console warriors are coming from.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Feb 24, 2019 13:13:58 No.5392476 >>5392312 You agree that Nintendo and Sega are better game makers than Sony and didn't deserve to fail though, right?

>>	Anonymous Sun, Feb 24, 2019 13:17:20 No.5392484 >>5392476 Way to not understand what he's saying at all lol

Anonymous Sun, Feb 24, 2019 13:18:16 No.5392487

>>5392476
>Sony
That was just the platform, I legit can't remember any games developed by Sony. I got the PS1 because FF7 was coming out for it and ended up playing basically every JRPG on the system as well as Megaman X4 and Street Fighter Alpha 3. I had an N64 and played it once in a while (Mario 64, Mario Kart 64, Smash) but outside of a few first-party titles it didn't hold my attention like the RPG machine did. No one I knew had a Saturn, but I'm interested in it now that I'm expanding my horizons.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Feb 24, 2019 13:21:18 No.5392495 >>5391968 At least you got Virtua Fighter. The only games I could find back then were shit like Rise of the Robots 2 and Congo. I spent most of the time playing the Nights demo that came with the system.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Feb 24, 2019 13:47:53 No.5392558 File: 285 KB, 1068x561, plato-on-jrpg.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5392487 >he liked the JRPG machine best Oh, you're one of those.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Feb 24, 2019 13:54:50 No.5392579 Look at the library, watch some gameplay videos. Asking here only gets you this kind of thread.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Feb 24, 2019 14:14:39 No.5392624 >>5392558 Shmupnigger

>>	Anonymous Sun, Feb 24, 2019 14:16:49 No.5392629 >>5392624 Don't lump all shmup fans with the /vg/ scum.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Feb 24, 2019 14:18:24 No.5392636 >>5392629 Ok

>>	Anonymous Sun, Feb 24, 2019 14:38:09 No.5392671 >>5392629 /vg/ is the only place on 4chan that can discuss shmups. /v/ and /vr/ are retards when it comes to them, and /jp/ only cares about Touhou and maybe some Cave.

Anonymous Sun, Feb 24, 2019 14:40:33 No.5392674

>>5392671
Not true, /vg/'s shmup general is mostly gossiping about literally who's and seething at people who can afford PCBs.
I'm sure there are a few guys who lurk /shmupg/ that actually are interested in the genre, but the whole threads are always dominated by the same 4 or 5 shmups.system11-banned autists shitposting endlessly.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Feb 24, 2019 16:12:11 No.5392902 >>5392558 Yeah, I was all about JRPGs throughout my teens and early 20's. Still enjoy em from time to time but I tend to play other genres more often now. Why do you have a bias against them?

>>	Anonymous Sun, Feb 24, 2019 16:13:46 No.5392907 >>5382290 >ninpen manmaru that game is kinda shit could have just said Croc and everyone at the time usually compared NiGHTS

>>	Anonymous Sun, Feb 24, 2019 16:15:35 No.5392915 >>5391349 yeah, fuck off >>5383003 You're cool.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Feb 24, 2019 20:33:22 No.5393510 Panzer Dragoon Saga. Arguably a better RPG for the time than FF7.

Anonymous Sun, Feb 24, 2019 22:00:06 No.5393681

>>5382257
dunno
don't actually care about most of those that much
like, playing Virtual On with a buddy is great, and Gungriffon is cool, and I've spent a bunch of time playing Galactic Attack
oh, and Panzer Dragoon Zwei is top fucking class
and anyone with sense imported (or burned) Bulk Slash

but for 3D adventure, platforming, RPG, and tactical espionage action, I dunno on Saturn

>>5382632
all of the dodonpachi home ports blow chunks

>>5383956
when emulating, I usually just do L1/Triangle/R1 for X/Y/Z, L2/R2 for L/R, and Square/X/O for A/B/C
the only games that don't work that well like this are 2D fighting games, and there's no reason to bother emulating those on Saturn instead of playing the original arcade release in MAME

>>5384092
the Neo sold ridiculously well for a machine they specifically released as a niche, premium product

>>5383681
the fun bit is that the only thing making the PS1 weaker at 2D is the lack of RAM
because its fillrate is so high that it doesn't actually matter if it doesn't have tilemap hardware

Anonymous Sun, Feb 24, 2019 22:19:03 No.5393712

>>5392320
I think a lot of people see Playstation's win as games going in a direction that they don't fancy, people get annoyed at n64 fanboys because they use words like "legendary" to describe decent games, and Saturn fans are bitter that a good console fucked itself over so hard in a way that still holds a negative reputation to this day.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Feb 24, 2019 22:26:00 No.5393720 SATURN GOOD PS1 N64 BAD embarrassing thread

>>	Anonymous Sun, Feb 24, 2019 22:54:03 No.5393790 File: 101 KB, 900x506, newsociety.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I want to get a Japanese Saturn mostly for its port of Elevator Action Returns/II, that game is so much fun.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Feb 24, 2019 22:56:32 No.5393793 >>5382257 Borrowed this system once from a friends older brother. Played virtual on, give that one a playthrough.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Feb 24, 2019 22:56:36 No.5393794 >>5393720 yep, sega widows will never learn. they be seething forever.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Feb 24, 2019 23:02:27 No.5393806 >>5393794 Please, tell us more about how the Sega Saturn has personally slighted you.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Feb 24, 2019 23:03:08 No.5393808 File: 38 KB, 1200x748, red-alert.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5382402 Weeb alert

>>	Anonymous Mon, Feb 25, 2019 16:32:34 No.5395480 >>5383003 Very bright and colorful graphics. Would’ve loved to have seen what it could do on more powerful hardware.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Feb 25, 2019 16:33:19 No.5395487 >>5391034 I bought mine boxed and very white for $33 usd.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Feb 25, 2019 18:41:14 No.5395747 >>5395487 >i overpaid >i bragged about it lol

>>	Anonymous Mon, Feb 25, 2019 18:49:32 No.5395764 >>5395747 >$33 being significant at all Who cares if I did overpay, it didn't affect me at all.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Feb 25, 2019 23:03:15 No.5396279 >>5382515 Whenever I see a comment, I find it really hard to believe whoever wrote it actually owned said system back then. I'm sorry.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Feb 25, 2019 23:07:10 No.5396294 >>5382290 It looks like you are listing poor mans' alternatives.

Anonymous Mon, Feb 25, 2019 23:15:55 No.5396317

>>5382443
>Fighters Megamix
Tekken or Bloody Roar
>Sega Rally
Grsn Turismo or Crash Team Racing
>Hanagumi Taisen Columns
Super Puzzle Fighter 2
>Die Hard Arcade
Fighting Force
>Radiant Silvergun
Einhander or Sol Divide

This is just off the top of my head with games I really enjoyed, I'm sure others can really put the list you gave to shame. Honestly the list is extremely weak and isn't helping defend the saturn in the slightest.

Anonymous Mon, Feb 25, 2019 23:30:36 No.5396346
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>>5396317
>comparing Kekken and Furry Roar to AM2's expertise
>comparing Gran Autismo and Poochie Racer to an arcade classic like Sega Rally
>mentioning a game that's also on Saturn (and better on it)
>comparing a western 3D belt scroller to Dynamite fucken' Deka
>mentioning another multiplat that's also better on Saturn
>comparing a Square shmup to Treasure's magnum opus

>>	Anonymous Mon, Feb 25, 2019 23:34:07 No.5396351 >>5382257 Saturn is only worth it if you can read Japanese, if you are a non moon rune reader, the library is slim pickings.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Feb 25, 2019 23:35:46 No.5396354 >>5396346 >whole post Now it's just getting sad.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Feb 25, 2019 23:37:01 No.5396357 >>5396354 Not an argument. The only game I could accept as being sort of a rival for AM2's fighting games is Tekken (not the first one), but the point still stands.

Anonymous Mon, Feb 25, 2019 23:42:25 No.5396368

>>5396357
But there was no point, you just misspelled some game titles and cried saturn games were better. On a side note, I guess just throw in some anime cutscenes and everyone praises a game. There wasn't anything special at all about radiant silvergun. I still enjoyed the others way more.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Feb 26, 2019 01:08:11 No.5396514 >>5382257 Die. Hard. Arcade.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Feb 26, 2019 01:09:56 No.5396518 >>5393790 Most retropie images with a decent arcade pack have it. Its awesome. I beat it.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Feb 26, 2019 06:41:45 No.5396871 >>5395764 But it did. It made you shitpost about how much you paid for it.

Anonymous Tue, Feb 26, 2019 06:54:12 No.5396881
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>>5396368
Not that dude but I don't understand most of this thread. Why are people concerned about there being analogs for games across the systems? I liked both Saturn and PS quite a bit and it's the difference in the libraries that I liked.

I never wanted there to be a Guardian Heroes for Playstation and an MGS for Saturn etc. I wanted variety of games and types.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Feb 26, 2019 12:29:38 No.5397331 >>5396871 To be fair it's quite a low price.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Feb 26, 2019 17:40:23 No.5397875 >>5397331 No it's not. It's lower than ebay bin. That may mean something to you but IRL it doesn't mean much.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Feb 27, 2019 08:34:32 No.5399357 I have a USB light gun, can I use it through a USB to Saturn adapter?

>>	Anonymous Wed, Feb 27, 2019 12:16:53 No.5399617 >>5383681 Azure Dreams does a nice mixture of 2D and 3D

>>	Anonymous Wed, Feb 27, 2019 12:19:35 No.5399621 >>5386439 Yep, fuck this place. God forbid you should actually want a discussion about anything. /vr/ should be razed to the ground and immediately forgotten.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Feb 27, 2019 12:27:36 No.5399630 >>5392902 /vr/ has bias because they suck western dick and say all jap games are rip offs with anime graphics to make quick buck. I do not necessarily disagree with this but people here tend to exaggerate

>>	Anonymous Wed, Feb 27, 2019 12:35:18 No.5399639 /v/ hates western games /vr/ hates jap games mmm

>>	Anonymous Wed, Feb 27, 2019 12:52:05 No.5399680 >>5399639 its not good to think in absolutes you know, especially for communities. people have different tastes, atleast here. i dont know about /v/, apparantely they have viral marketers now.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Feb 27, 2019 13:14:11 No.5399716 >>5382257 Lmao no. Some Segatard tried to argue with me one time that Virtual Hydlide is a free roaming 3D game on the same level as Mario 64. Pure delusion.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Feb 27, 2019 13:19:12 No.5399729 >>5383681 PSX library has some decent titles, the N64 on the other hand has absolutely nothing unless you like too-3d-for-you foggy collectathons

>>	Anonymous Wed, Feb 27, 2019 13:19:22 No.5399731 >"console wars" retardation >>>/v/

>>	Anonymous Wed, Feb 27, 2019 13:21:12 No.5399734 >>5382601 >not knowing bubble symphony cringe

>>	Anonymous Wed, Feb 27, 2019 13:21:40 No.5399736 SATURN GOOD N64 BAD

>>	Anonymous Wed, Feb 27, 2019 13:21:48 No.5399737 whining about inane opinions like they're fact is /v/ trash and you should be collectively ashamed for allowing /vr/ to become /b8/ play moar post less ya egomaniacs

>>	Anonymous Wed, Feb 27, 2019 14:24:29 No.5399832 >>5399357 If the USB adapter supports that, yes

>>	Anonymous Wed, Feb 27, 2019 14:27:09 No.5399843 >>5384021 Based.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Feb 27, 2019 17:09:02 No.5400197 >>5383681 PS1: >place polygons on a 2D plane >now you have 3D graphics that are 2D Saturn: everything is a 2D sprite, can't really do proper 3D except for sprite stretching. It's basically a 32X plus extra chips for sprite manipulation, sound and I/O

>>	Anonymous Wed, Feb 27, 2019 19:26:08 No.5400476 >>5400197 >le epic saturn 2d maymay wew lad

>>	Anonymous Wed, Feb 27, 2019 19:28:02 No.5400482 File: 643 KB, 1600x1200, Sega-Saturn-010-Motherboard.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5400476 >meme It's true though. This sweetie is a 2D powerhouse. Better than a Neo Geo.

Anonymous Wed, Feb 27, 2019 19:28:31 No.5400484

>>5400476
>The Sega Saturn is equipped with dual custom VDP chips for graphics processing. The VDP 1 chip is primarily responsible for sprite generation. Polygon generation is accomplished through manipulation of the sprite engine. Texture mapping and Gouraud shading is also handled by the VDP1. The VDP1 relies on a dual frame buffer that handles rotation and stores textures in special 512K cache.

If you are going to call PS1 "3D only" because it handles sprites like polygons, you should be fair and call the Saturn 2D only because it handles polygons like sprites.

Anonymous Wed, Feb 27, 2019 22:15:19 No.5400776

>>5400197
I wouldn't go that far. The 32X is literally just 2 SH2s with some memory and a PWM channel. The thing has no video chip at all other than a simple frame buffer that can display 32k colors. All graphics drawn on the 32X, including sprites and backgrounds, must be done through software. That's why so many games have the Genesis draw things like backgrounds. The 32X isn't fast enough to draw them at a full 60fps.

The Saturn at least has 2 fully fledged graphics chips and a much more advanced sound chip. Yeah, distorting sprites to make polygons is kind of stupid, but at least it can draw sprites in the first place.

Anonymous Wed, Feb 27, 2019 22:19:15 No.5400785

>>5400776
>The 32X isn't fast enough to draw them at a full 60fps.
Wasn't the 32X underutilized by most software? I mean, just look at this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pOWZbydnlZE
It was easier to let the genesis draw the background, it probably also meant less porting of code

Anonymous Wed, Feb 27, 2019 22:28:58 No.5400807

>>5400785
In cases of what you can make the SH-2 do for 3D sure. But for other things like 2D not so much. As I said the system has no kind of graphical hardware other than a chip that can draw 32k colors to the screen. Everything you see done on the 32X is done through software. Sprites, Backgrounds, polygons, everything. I believe the best the 32X can do if it's drawing everything without the Genesis (Sprites, backgrounds, etc.) is 30fps with 1 or 2 background layers and a few sprites.

Anonymous Wed, Feb 27, 2019 22:48:12 No.5400828

>>5400197
Playstation: maps a 2d texture onto a flat triangle with a set of texture coordinates determining how it gets scaled/interpolated. GPU doesn't know about depth.
Saturn: Draw a 2d texture as a quadrilateral in 2d space. Again, GPU doesn't know about depth.

Both of them are basically affine texture mapping accelerators (affine means no perspective aka 2D) . The ps1 supports UV mapping which is very nice, but it doesn't make the graphics hardware any more 3D.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Feb 27, 2019 22:52:28 No.5400835 >>5382632 >dodonpachi >hardcore play battle garegga and get back to me.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Feb 28, 2019 07:26:21 No.5401601 >>5400484 But I'm not going to do any of those things you dumb kids do

>>	Anonymous Thu, Feb 28, 2019 09:02:18 No.5401710 >>5400835 >/vg/ children >hardcore

>>	Anonymous Thu, Feb 28, 2019 10:08:02 No.5401821 >>5387598 console wars are the only thing interesting about consoles. Once they all became shitty ass low end pcs there was nothing worth talking about.

Anonymous Thu, Feb 28, 2019 10:10:25 No.5401828

>>5401821
>console wars are the only thing interesting about consoles
I don't know what kind of interests you have, maybe you're a hardware-only guy, or a guy who focuses on marketing and brands, but I think most people will agree the most interesting thing about consoles were the games.
Console wars is a poorfag thing by the way.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Feb 28, 2019 10:13:30 No.5401832 >>5401828 you can play the games on anything, the hardware is what made them unique

Anonymous Fri, Mar 1, 2019 08:24:54 No.5404031
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>>5382257
I have over 300 games for the system, and I can honestly respond with "no," but it is still one of my most favorite consoles. In part it could be personal fond memories playing great games because at that time no one wanted them, and almost all the games were in bargain bins.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Mar 1, 2019 08:53:13 No.5404068 >>5404031 >Only expensive now because of LOOK RARE collectors Nerd culture is cancer

>>	Anonymous Fri, Mar 1, 2019 14:03:07 No.5404567 >>5404068 Thankfully CD-Rs are still cheap to make.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Mar 1, 2019 17:21:18 No.5404892 >>5404031 >hello /vr/ how much money have you blown in your lifetime on video games?

>>	Anonymous Fri, Mar 1, 2019 17:34:14 No.5404925 File: 2.72 MB, 2016x1512, vr_n64.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5404892 lotsa

>>	Anonymous Fri, Mar 1, 2019 17:35:51 No.5404928 >>5404925 You are my hero <3

>>	Anonymous Fri, Mar 1, 2019 18:59:29 No.5405091 >>5404925 Yup. That's at least ¥1K right there. That's like enough to buy a house in pooristan amirite?

>>	Anonymous Sat, Mar 2, 2019 12:05:35 No.5406514 >>5405091 >¥1K That's equivalent to $10, anon

>>	Anonymous Sat, Mar 2, 2019 17:27:24 No.5407067 >>5406514 No. It's less than $10, anon

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