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5356509 No.5356509 [Reply] [Original]

Doom is having a bit of a revival right now. Ther'es several major projects in the work:

>PSX Doom Master Edition:

Missing Doom maps ported to the original playstation. That includes "No rest for the living".
https://youtu.be/Uc8j79iF0ic
https://doomwiki.org/wiki/PlayStation_Doom:_Master_Edition

>SIGIL

John Romero's making an unofficial Episode 5 for Doom.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4VibM9vCguc

>PSX Doom Reloaded

Expanded and remixed PSX Doom for GX Doom.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NGMXpYkDv9k
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vqLZgsajOKE

>> No.5356523

>>5356509
I still cant into de changed sound and music of de PS version

>> No.5356531

>>5356509
>John Romero's making an unofficial Episode 5 for Doom.

I read this somewhere outside of /vr/ the other day. Looking forward to playing it and I hope the community response is positive.

>> No.5356543

>>5356523

I much prefer the PS score. Its atmospheric.

>> No.5356549

>>5356543
>>5356523
The music puts me to sleep. Would be good for a horror game, but not in Doom.

>> No.5356552

>>5356549

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GV5UnANIj3c

It's good music, and even fits the game more than the original. Doom is not an "action" game. You really spend more time exploring and searching. The music fits a kind of tense, anything could be around the corner feeling.

>> No.5356583
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5356583

>>5356552
>Doom is not an action game
>circle strafes 40 enemies at 90mph

>> No.5356585

>>5356552
Like I said, sleep inducing. Technically proficient ambient stuff but it feels wrong in a game where I can run so fast, I can catch my own rockets.

>> No.5356645

>>5356583
>circle strafes 40 enemies at 90mph

Vanilla Doom was different from what you play today.

>> No.5356664

>>5356645
You could run incredibly fast in vanilla, so no excuses.

>> No.5357062

>>5356645
I play vanilla doom to this day (well, chocolate doom usually but it plays the same)

>> No.5357334
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5357334

>>5356645
You can still SR50 in vanilla Doom.

>> No.5357497

>>5356552
>doom is not an action game

>> No.5357509

>>5357334
Ironically the most popular Doom sourceport (GZDoom) actually disables wallrunning by default, making it less fast than the original.

>> No.5357990

>>5356583
One day I would like to take doom in a different direction and make it a bit like the novels. I have a feeling the game would play like stalker or systemshock. Where doom guy would eat and sleep in an elevator, sneak into bases with his trusty handgun. Applying his space age medicine to his hell ravaged body, rubbing that burn cream over his charred flesh, impaling himself with massive syringes and pumping that warm rush of medicinal sustenance into his body that would make a lesser man vomit without control. Doom guy would light cigars off the red hot barrel of his chaingun before dumping it and marking the location. Then slowly pulling out a black burlap satchel with a red cross, opening it up to a massive vial of obsidian ichor and stabbing himself with it. His whole world turning into a dizzying mist of red with strange shadows, moving around on all cylinders while using his rifle webbing to tie his knife into his gripping hand. Slamming that shard of cold steel into mass after screaming mass, taunting, fighting and subduing each of them before drifting back to reality and seeing about 3 barons of hell, 4 pinkies and 2 imps cut to pieces.

>> No.5358072

>>5356509
I hope to see a new version of the PSX TC with all this impressive GEC tech.

>> No.5358125

>>5358072
>GEC tech.

???

>> No.5358182

>>5357509
But you can reenable that in the compatibility options, right?

>> No.5358184
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5358184

Superior PSX Doom coming though.

>> No.5358205

>>5357990
I wonder if Doom would have been the same sensational success if id software had followed the original design document more closely...

>> No.5358209

>>5358205

Likely no. What Tom Hall was doing was writing Half-Life before there was a half-life. A strongly cinematic story driven linear first person shooter. ID made the right call to make what amounts to next level W3D with demons and sci-fi. I do think axing Tom Hall was a dick move though. So he doesn't gel well with one project so he's gone forever? Come on. ID seemed like a pit of sharks back then.

Axing Tom Hall and John Romero was part of their downfall. Imagine if those guys were still at ID in high positions? ID would still be a creative powerhouse.

>> No.5358271

>>5358209
Indeed, Romero would have been a great creative director but from what I understand he became too much of a disruptive influence on the rest of the team. To cut him out completely (including royalties on legacy releases he himself had been co-creator on) seemed ultra harsh.

>> No.5358372

>>5357720
>>5357720
>>5357720

>> No.5358565

>>5358209
Tom Hall ended up making Rise of the Triad. It was a shit game similar to LameDuke. That would have been the final result of Doom with him as a lead.

>> No.5358629

>>5358565
opinion discarded

>> No.5359320

>>5356552
>It's good music,
I disagree, it's almost all just repetitive ambient noise with no melody or beat to speak off, it's boring as fuck.

>and even fits the game more than the original.
No it doesn't.

>Doom is not an "action" game.
Yes it is. You just have to look at Thy Flesh Consumed, Doom 2, TNT Evilution, and Plutonia, to really see the good action.
Oh wait, all of those are gimped and neutered for the Playstation ports, so you don't get to actually fully appreciate all they have to offer.

>You really spend more time exploring and searching.
Maybe if you can't navigate.

>The music fits a kind of tense, anything could be around the corner feeling.
Highly disagree, the slow and atmospheric themes of the original games blows all of PSX/N64 Doom's music out of the water.

https://youtu.be/gKHOiTE_2sM
https://youtu.be/FMex4f8cwEY
https://youtu.be/KxED1xXR58I
https://youtu.be/3HZEF6Ujsl0
https://youtu.be/q7MGbUYslrU
https://youtu.be/jeOGqrWLOrE
https://youtu.be/S4HEJdTH50s
https://youtu.be/bQe4lb9aQ78
These tracks are FAR better at building suspense and a sense of dread and foreboding, than anything of the PSX/N64's ambient tracks, on top of the original games also featuring higher tempo themes for maps where it's suited, creating more variety.

>> No.5359335

>>5358565
It's funny, according to the history books Tom Hall wanted Doom to be more story-driven. But then his game Rise Of The Triad is completely ridiculous & action-oriented and the manual literally says nobody cares about the story.

>> No.5359530

>>5358565
Rise Of The Triad is an objectively good game.

>> No.5359572

>>5359335
Maybe he saw DOOM's success and decided story wasn't important after all?

>> No.5359589

>>5359572
Though Tom Hall was lead dev, and you can see a lot of his influence in ROTT, I think a lot of the other guys factored in too (like Joe Siegler and Scott Miller), and a lot of its characteristics come from it being intended as a licensed Wolf3D sequel, then ID cancelling that, then Apogee retooling what they had to their own game, with nothing else to hold them back.