/vr/ - Retro Games

[Anonymous No.5355290]

>Planescape Torment.
Will there be a game like it ever again?

[Anonymous No.5355348]

>>5355290
Sure, anon. There are a lot of RPGs with garbage gameplay.

[Anonymous No.5355448]

Pillars of Eternity.

[Anonymous No.5355454]

>>5355290
Hopefully not. The industry is chock full of garbage games already,

[Anonymous No.5355462]

Why this game triggers /vr/ so much?

[Anonymous No.5355497]

>>5355462
>why does [x] [item] trigger [board]
>guaranteed replies
it doesnt.
that being said probably never. there have been attempts like others mentioned but this game has too much thought and care put into it to be seen again.

[Anonymous No.5355504]

What happened to avelone?

[Anonymous No.5355519]

>>5355290
>The industry

[Anonymous No.5355521]

>>5355454
>The industry

[Anonymous No.5355532]

>>5355462
Because it's on the easier side of the infinity engine games.

>>5355504
Chris Avellone worked for Obsidian until a couple of years ago, now he's writing System Shock 3.

[Anonymous No.5355534]

>>5355532
Holy Shit I forgot about the SS3

[Anonymous No.5355564]

>>5355290
I don't like turn-based combat.

Convince me to play this game.

[Anonymous No.5355583]

>>5355564
The game isn't turn based, but real time with pause.

The combat sucks anyway and you can avoid most of it. It's like a visual novel without the anime titties.

[Anonymous No.5355587]

>>5355534
Don't get your hopes up, the new (Ultima) Underworld was pretty bad. I didn't knew it had released until now.

[Anonymous No.5355593]

Beamdog is a guilty of a number of different crimes. Here are the major ones:

1. The Enhanced Editions are essentially a collection of free mods that had existed for nearly twenty years. Beamdog gathered them all up, slapped "Enhanced Edition" on it and resold it as a new product. There's very very little in the Enhanced Editions that wasn't already out there, and most of it is stuff you don't want (like obnoxious character outlines).

2. The games didn't sell so well and the originals were still far outselling them, even twenty years after their release, so Beamdog had EVERY digital distributor stop selling the originals and ONLY sell the Enhanced Edition. If you want to buy a digital copy of the originals now, they're "bundled" into the Enhanced Edition. Now these scumbags can claim sales from people just wanting to buy the originals as their own.

3. The infamous 600+ bugs on launch. The game is still riddled with bugs (as even a perfunctory glance over their forums show) but the fact that it took nearly two years for them to get a game that had been working fine for 20 years to reach playability after launch is telling of their wild incompetence.

4. This is where we get to the ones that really piss people off. Beamdog couldn't just remaster the game, they had to fuck with the content too. New dialogue for existing NPCs like Jaheira, Viconia, Safana, Kivan, et cetera was written in to make the characters more progressive and leftist friendly. Beamdog shills will argue that "adding content isn't changing content XDDD" but it is when the new content changes the core personalities of the existing characters. This is in addition to adding a slew of their own LGBT (hitherto there were none in Baldur's Gate) NPCs, all flooded with OP attributes and magic items to encourage people to play them despite their cancer.

5. Siege of motherfucking Dragonspear.

[Anonymous No.5355605]

>>5355593
BEHOLD! The world's most triggered man!

[Anonymous No.5355615]

There are millions of e-books so probably.

[Anonymous No.5355632]

>>5355290
Technically there was.
It was called Toment - Tides of Numenara and was supposed to be a spiritual succesor to PST.
It sucked. It was Bioshock Infinite levels of pretentious, overly-wordy and the story was a carbon-copy of PST, that really tries to be smart and failing spectacularly.
And it flopped hard.
Proving once again, that PST was a lightning in the bottle.

[Anonymous No.5356350]

>>5355448
Wouldn't it be sweet if they made a sequel worthy to be called a sequel of PoE? Too bad they never have made one, not a single one, none, really a shame.

[Anonymous No.5356362]

>>5356350
There was supposed to be a sequel to PoE some time ago, from what I've heard. I remember, there was this cute, nerdy pale elf waifu that was supposed to be a companion. And Eder was making a return. It was supposed to be really cool and epic.

Too bad they've never made a sequel. Now, all Obsidian is doing are some badly written. stupid pirate games.

[Anonymous No.5356374]

>>5355564
I can't. The combat is easily the worst part of the game.

[Anonymous No.5356408]

>>5355632
Numenera never had a chance because it had all the wrong people for all the wrong reasons working on it.

[Anonymous No.5356430]

The closest thing is the Legacy of Kain Series, but no there never has been anything else that did dark fantasy as well as Planescape Torment and because tabletop RPGs and games are different things nowadays there most likely never will be ever again.

[Anonymous No.5356580]

Anything Bioware makes is fucking trash and fuck Bioware shitty fucking dev team. Bioware is fucking cancer

[Anonymous No.5356584]

>>5356580
What does Bioware have to do with anything in this case?

[Anonymous No.5356630]

>>5356584
They took over the CRPG genre and made shitty CRPGs.

[Anonymous No.5356735]

>>5355290
What do you mean by "ever again"? Literally pick any given VN and you're good.

>>5355521
>Multi-billion enterprises emplying thousands of people and delivering hardware along with software is not industry
>Lel, you are just fedora tipped if you call it so
Nigger, when was the last time you were outside? Mid-70s?

[Anonymous No.5356740]

>>5355605
>Not recognising pasta

[Anonymous No.5356742]

>>5356580
>>5356630
Have you tried playing games from other companies or were too triggered to even notice they exist in the first place

[Anonymous No.5356828]

>>5356580
That's what Diversity Hiring does. It destroys greatness.

[Anonymous No.5356835]

>>5356580
>Implying Bioware was good at any point of history
They were always the definition of mediocre. Not outright bad, but never really good, always on the bad side of average. It will never cease to amaze me how people pretend they were once some sort of glorious company delivering epic, industry-changing games. They weren't.
>inb4 muh BG
Stop watching world through nostalgia glasses, faggot. Game's their peak performance and that was 20 years ago. It's idiots like you that allowed them to coast on that fame for long enough to figure out their "master" formula of shitting out one game after another that's more of the same tasteless, texturless homogenised paste with no flavour or colour, but still getting attention thanks to triggering idiots instead

[Anonymous No.5357112]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sh7xhk9wSGk

[Anonymous No.5357285]

>>5355605
>says 'man' triggered by copypasta

[Anonymous No.5357401]

>>5357245
neat, glad you're continuing with that character

[Anonymous No.5357849]

>>5355290
nope. it really was one-of-a-kind sort of game.
perhaps if the publishers of D&D games finally get their shit together, we might have a chance.

>>5355448
absolute garbage. slow. unengaging. boring.

[Anonymous No.5357854]

>>5356630
>shitty

I wouldn't call BG, IWD and NWN shitty. those games were well received. the Faggot Age Series and Cuck Effect Series however...

[Anonymous No.5357860]

>>5357112
i forgot how good the soundtrack for this game is. the only problem for the music is that the tomb or underground music is shit, but there'll be times you'll enter these places for possibly an hour at a time.

[Anonymous No.5357897]

>>5355290
I'm puzzled why they would put that crusty nigga on the cover. Literally the one big reason why I haven't played it yet. It makes me doubt that the game is going to be of any quality if the cover has none.

[Anonymous No.5358043]

>>5355290
Hopefully not. Totally overrated hipster game. Icewind Dale is a far superior game.

[Anonymous No.5358096]

>>5357849
Well, it was more of a layered writing and the atmosphere than the game rules and the setting, to be frank.

[Anonymous No.5358120]

It and the other games like it (BG, IWD) were the beginnings of the JRPGwannabe garbage. They're shit.

Go play old DOS RPGs.

[Anonymous No.5358325]

>>5358120
>look at me i'm mor hardcore than you
no one gives a shit

[Anonymous No.5358727]

>>5358325
Not him, but this is nothing about "moar hardcore". It's a simple truth. Planescape is a visual novel in anything, but name and it tries sooo fucking hard to fit into the crowd of jRPG of its era it's fucking painful.
Want good cRPG? Go play Ultima games. Or Darklands.

[Anonymous No.5358730]

>>5358727
*everything

[Anonymous No.5358758]

>>5356580
>>5356835

MDK 2 is their Magnum Opus

[Anonymous No.5358828]

>>5358758
>Sequel to the game they didn't even create is the peak performance of a company
Colour me surprised

[Anonymous No.5360078]

>>5358120
NWN was a boring tech demo and BioWare didn't make IWD (that was Black Isle). KoTOR is good but BioWare really did peak early with the BG games. I don't understand the acclaim the Dragon Age games get. Even Origins felt like a single player MMO. The quest design was just atrocious.

[Anonymous No.5360101]

>>5358727
>wanting a little more writing than, "Greetings, [Your Name Here]! You are the MACGUFFIN, DIVINE CHOSEN OF THE CHOOSERS. Take up your [Power Only You Have!] and gather [Unquestioning Allies!]
>The bad guy is just a selfish douchebag

lo siento, hermano

[Anonymous No.5360112]

>>5355290
IDK, I grew up as a consolefag. But I do know that "planescape" is the literal, stupidly gayest fucking title I have ever heard on my 35 years on this hellhole planet.

[Anonymous No.5360117]

>>5360078
>knowing what an an MMO feels like

I genuenely feel sorry for you.

[Anonymous No.5360242]

>>5360112
come on. nothing beats FAXANADU in that regard. it's just repulsive

[Anonymous No.5360382]

>tfw probably not

[Anonymous No.5360647]

>>5360101
>Dozens of games that offer that and are still cRPG
>N-no, I want to play this visual novel, leave me be
Just stop calling it cRPG and it will be fine.