Was this the biggest controller blunder of the retro era?

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Anonymous Sat Feb 2 18:33:41 2019 No.5343418 [Reply] [Original]

Was this the biggest controller blunder of the retro era?

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 2 18:34:49 2019 No.5343421 >not having bought a model 2 Saturn in 1997 Plebs.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 2 18:36:08 2019 No.5343425 I unironically prefer it to the model 2/JDM controller

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 2 18:53:42 2019 No.5343442 >>5343425 How

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 2 19:02:42 2019 No.5343451 File: 56 KB, 800x600, m06086_gr__77738.1493843778.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >biggest controller blunder of the retro era

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 2 19:09:48 2019 No.5343464 File: 11 KB, 275x183, 1474135002647.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5343418 >model 1 controller is bad

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 2 19:12:23 2019 No.5343469 >>5343451 Yeah, the Saturn is the biggest blunder.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 2 19:13:47 2019 No.5343472 >>5343442 Ergonomics

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 2 19:14:20 2019 No.5343475 >>5343418 Doesn't even come close the shittiness of the Atari 5200 pad where if you look at it wrong it fucking ceases to function

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 2 19:18:56 2019 No.5343482 >>5343475 Can you expand on this?

Anonymous Sat Feb 2 19:43:06 2019 No.5343526

>>5343482
The controllers are just really bad. It has a non-self centering analog stick which means it's super imprecise, and the circuit board for the buttons is extremely prone to failure and there's no signs at all of it happening, you can put one away in storage fully working, and when you pull it out a year later it doesn't work. The contacts just stop working and you have to take the whole thing apart and delicately clean it to have any hopes of it working. You can also rebuild them with replacement parts but the controllers are a pain in the ass to work with because of the complex design.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 2 19:48:37 2019 No.5343535 >>5343482 It was one of the first analog controllers around, predating the N64 controller by over a decade, but it was built really badly and would fail to recenter itself after an hour of play.

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>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 2 20:32:13 2019 No.5343593 File: 199 KB, 1000x1009, 130807.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5343418 nope dreamcast controller is the biggest "why?"

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 2 20:32:33 2019 No.5343594 As much as I love the Dreamcast, I don't like the controller. It's not the worst, but it really doesn't feel good and has too few buttons. N64 was weird but it worked. >>5343552 All bad, though I like the potential of the overlays.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 2 20:35:40 2019 No.5343598 File: 56 KB, 300x261, PSX-Original-Controller.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Proof that Sony hates 2D games, or its customer base in general. Look at that "Dpad", look at it and laugh

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 2 20:35:50 2019 No.5343601 >>5343526 Jesus

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 2 20:36:53 2019 No.5343605 >>5343552 This wasnt that bad senpai a lam

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 2 20:39:02 2019 No.5343609 >>5343598 I've never had issues with a Sony d-pad you autist

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 2 20:46:26 2019 No.5343625 >>5343598 Never been a problem for me

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 2 20:48:00 2019 No.5343628 >>5343609 >>5343625 It's fucking shit you subhumans. The worst. Fuckers.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 2 20:50:31 2019 No.5343634 >>5343598 >just four separate buttons

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 2 20:55:37 2019 No.5343639 >>5343593 dreamcast looks weird but it's pretty damn comfy, the only problem is that it only has one analog stick

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 2 20:57:30 2019 No.5343641 >>5343598 Segmented d-pad is best d-pad.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 2 20:57:47 2019 No.5343643 >>5343639 and 2 less buttons than the saturn

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 2 21:04:48 2019 No.5343651 >>5343643 And a garbage d-pad.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 2 21:08:13 2019 No.5343660 >>5343641 You are retarded, spaz.

Anonymous Sat Feb 2 21:16:56 2019 No.5343671

>>5343593
To milk people via accessories like rumble paks, VMUs, etc. It's like they saw the 64 controller and said "let's do that pak thingy but times two" (which might have been what really happened since the Saturn's wonderful 3D pad was a direct response to the 64's analog stick).
>>5343594
>>5343639
>>5343643
>>5343651
It was just plain a huge step down from the Saturn's 3D pad in a number of ways for no reason. By far the most comfortable and best feeling disappointment of any controller. At least it wasn't shit AND uncomfortable...

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 2 21:22:00 2019 No.5343679 File: 12 KB, 400x344, Xbox-Controller-Duke-FR.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5343418 Retro? Who cares. This was a pain to use and I remember having a hard time playing JSRF with it.

Anonymous Sat Feb 2 21:24:50 2019 No.5343683

>>5343593
I love the DC but the VMU "bump" on the back hits my second finger. It's really uncomfortable and annoying. The analog triggers are actually sharp, so if you're playing something like Tony Hawk, where you use them to spin constantly, it will blister the hell out of your finger eventually. The stick being hard plastic is really bad about letting your thumb slip off, even with the plastic nubs which wear off surprisingly fast. Cord coming out of the bottom of the controller... ick, but it does have the "holder" slot so you can make it exit the front. The last complaint is there being only 4 face buttons. Sega should have went with 6 by default, especially since various street fighter and MvC were huge draws to the hardware.

Today I put a white PS4 replacement stick in my DC controller. You have to widen the plastic circle on the front to get full motion as the PS4 stick has a larger diameter than the DC. It feels damn good and no slippage. I used a white stick so it matches fairly well. I also used the worse condition controller I had since the plastic had to be removed. I hate doing destructive mods, but this works so much better than stock.

Since the controller is already modded, I think I'm going to try to wetsand the triggers to make them smooth, and I might try to cut plastic away from the VMU bump and fill it with bondo or epoxy or something. Hell, I may go nuts and mount micro switches in the buttons, but I doubt it since it's kind of hard to find ones that feel good on buttons that small.

Anonymous Sat Feb 2 23:00:17 2019 No.5343828

>>5343671
That's fair, I've never actually even used a Saturn TBQHWY, so I can't compare the controllers, I am looking at picking one up soon though, it's a big gap in my vidya experience. As I kid I didn't even know it existed, my friends and I were all either PS or N64

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 3 00:38:46 2019 No.5343991 File: 51 KB, 820x758, vb_controller.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Broke: Dual Analog. Woke: Dual D-pad

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 3 06:52:12 2019 No.5344438 >>5343451 Unironically this What the fuck were they thinking

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 3 07:15:20 2019 No.5344456 >>5344438 I know right? What, did they design this controller for people with three hands? XDDD

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 3 07:26:30 2019 No.5344463 >>5343598 i bet you bought the ps1 just to play street fighter alpha 3.

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 3 08:02:23 2019 No.5344502 >>5343451 This is the only correct answer. Nintendo manchildren seethe really hard at this because they know it's true, so they try to label you as a Sony or Sega fanboy to delude themselves you're just "trolling".

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 3 08:31:22 2019 No.5344532 >>5343418 I think I want to buy one of these. They should be cheaper, though, since no one actually likes them...

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 3 08:35:30 2019 No.5344540 >>5344463 I gave all my original PS1 controllers away because they suck so much ass...and then bought better 3rd party ones. For PS1 fighting/arcade stuff I use both a Hori Fighting Stick and a Konami Hyperstick.

Anonymous Sun Feb 3 08:53:57 2019 No.5344563

>>5343639
It’s not comfy. After about 30 minutes the dpad starts to feel like a razor blade against your thumb. It also has less buttons than the Saturn controller. Why remove 2 whole buttons? They didn’t even consider having shoulder buttons along with the triggers.

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 3 09:01:15 2019 No.5344569 >>5343451 This

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 3 09:05:42 2019 No.5344573 it's strange, i've never heard people criticize the N64 controller before people born in 1995 were old enough to post here

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 3 09:19:09 2019 No.5344596 dc pad is fully rubbish .d pad on psx pads is blister inducing for fighting games and the n64 pad is trash too. japanese sega saturn pad is the goat

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 3 09:22:11 2019 No.5344602 >>5344573 I don’t understand how people have such a hard time grasping, figuratively and literally, the n64 controller. N64 was my 2nd console after the nes and using it came naturally.

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 3 09:22:46 2019 No.5344603 >>5344438 >>5344502 >>5344569 zoom zoom

Anonymous Sun Feb 3 09:25:56 2019 No.5344607

>>5343451
actually this is fucking genius and way better option than having the dpad and the analog stick on the same side. usually you have to prioritize the comfort of one of them, making it hard to use the other one consistently for a long amount of time without feelings of discomfort. the n64 controller solves this perfectly. autists seethe at it looking ridiculous, but it feels decently enough. I'd buy this again

Anonymous Sun Feb 3 09:25:57 2019 No.5344608

>>5343598
this was a non issue for everyone. we all came to the ps1 from snes and genesis dpads and nobody even blinked at the sony pad. I didn't even realise it was segmented until someone pointed it out to me after I took a big shit on the switch's 4 round button abortion for a dpad.

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 3 09:26:59 2019 No.5344609 >>5343598 This works much better than you would think.

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 3 09:29:59 2019 No.5344616 >>5344573 i hated it. but there was nowhere to bitch about it back then, and what was I gonna do, NOT play Starfox64 and OoT?

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 3 09:37:25 2019 No.5344620 >>5343991 This one is actually very comfortable, good ergonomic grip (probably the only ergonomic thing about the VB), and the double d-pad is rad, even though only one or two games actually made use of it. Teleroboxer in particular.

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 3 09:38:48 2019 No.5344624 >>5344608 talking out of your ass you fuck >>5344609 No, they sucked ass day one. Had to import Japanese 3rd party controllers and arcade sticks because of that. Sony fuckers don't understand games or gamers. Fuck em. Fuckers.

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 3 09:42:12 2019 No.5344634 >>5344603 >z-zoomer!

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 3 09:43:22 2019 No.5344638 File: 719 KB, 1674x740, 1546576243151.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5344607

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 3 09:47:03 2019 No.5344647 >tfw even a worn out N64 stick has less deadzone than xbox, ps4 and switch controllers

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 3 09:51:54 2019 No.5344658 File: 658 KB, 1234x1120, 1548969095318.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5344647

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 3 09:52:48 2019 No.5344661 >>5344658 >criticize the Switch >still uses /v/ console war memes ok.

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 3 09:55:32 2019 No.5344665 >>5344624 you're wrong fag, deal with it

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 3 09:56:35 2019 No.5344668 >>5344647 somehow deadzone is a bad thing

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 3 10:07:36 2019 No.5344696 >>5344665 No fuck you you mega autist sony drone, puto

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 3 10:13:47 2019 No.5344708 >>5343671 Saturn 3D pad is after nes pad the most uncomfortable controller ever used. It feels like you are holding a brick.

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 3 10:22:40 2019 No.5344726 >>5344696 Ay caramba, I knew it has to be a subhuman beaner to keep shitposting this hard.

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 3 10:46:18 2019 No.5344753 >>5344726 Fuck off to /pol/ you nigger

Anonymous Sun Feb 3 12:37:47 2019 No.5344984
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>>5343418
>>5343593
This. The Dreamcast controller is the worst stock controller outside of those for the 5200 and CDi. The Dreamcast had such bad stock controllers that I had to get other controllers to make games play right. Spent almost as much on arcade sticks, light guns, keayboard+mouse, dance mats, maracas, twin sticks as the games, just to get them playable on the system. I haven't played any fishing games, but even those have their own controllers for the system. Dreamcast owners were fortunate that driving games even function with the stock DC pad, because there are no good steering wheels for the system.

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 3 12:42:36 2019 No.5344996 I wish I had a friend

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 3 12:48:41 2019 No.5345000 File: 45 KB, 640x496, 8c3.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5344658 >>5344638 >t.meme-washed Sonytard who supports and defends anything $ony does, including their recent censorship of PS4 games since mid-late 2017

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 3 12:54:34 2019 No.5345013 >>5344984 man those look pretty sick

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 3 13:06:17 2019 No.5345042 File: 290 KB, 600x600, get_a_load_of_this_zoomer.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5344658 >>5344638

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 3 13:07:16 2019 No.5345048 >>5344996 Same

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 3 13:07:20 2019 No.5345050 >>5344984 Finally someone here who isn't a complete imbecile. tips hat

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 3 15:03:15 2019 No.5345332 >>5343593 this is the worst one. shit dpad and shit triggers

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 3 15:10:23 2019 No.5345347 >>5343641 I actually agree. The spaces in between the D-pad add more precision, I've noticed.

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 3 15:18:49 2019 No.5345364 >>5344624 I’ve been using one since 97. Personal /vr/ controller rankings: Topshelf: NES, Genesis 6 button, Saturn 2, Ps1 Midshelf: N64, Genesis 3button, Gameboy, Game Gear Clearance Isle: Dreamcast, Saturn 1, Super NES Can’t rate TG16 never played one

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 3 15:31:53 2019 No.5345393 >>5345364 Swap NES with SNES then your list would be spot on.

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 3 15:31:59 2019 No.5345394 >>5345347 Delusional retard. You can't beat Japanese arcade sticks. Fuckers.

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 3 15:40:25 2019 No.5345417 File: 322 KB, 640x480, hotdog-mouth-59d745d599ea6.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5343418 Was OP the biggest faggot walking under the sun?

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 3 15:51:19 2019 No.5345440 >>5343418 Never used that controller for the Saturn. Is it really as bad as people make it out to be? Tbqh when I was a kid I thought it looked kinda cool.

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 3 16:00:48 2019 No.5345467 >>5344984 Hey it's that anon that can only afford clone consoles yet has $700 worth of dreamcast controllers.

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 3 16:05:03 2019 No.5345479 >>5344502 While I admit the 64 controller was stupid as fuck the PS1 controller was even more garbage until the Dual shock came out.

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 3 16:05:43 2019 No.5345480 >>5345467 >t. eternal poorfag surviving by stealing food stamps from older black ladies

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 3 16:06:51 2019 No.5345483 >>5343598 I'd agree. The OG PlayStation is one of the best systems of all time but I HATED that controller.

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 4 22:25:28 2019 No.5348684 Any discussion that doesn't start with the Atari 5200 is invalid.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 5 00:49:21 2019 No.5348947 >>5343598 I hate Sony's d-pad with a passion. That thing tore up my thumb after a long night of Marvel Vs. Capcom, and I hate that Sony got it right with Vita's d-pad, and then went back to that separated bullshit for PS4.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 5 03:00:05 2019 No.5349082 >>5343451 As much as I enjoy the N64, the controller design is not good. The control stick though is still fantastic. The Hori version of the N64 controller is what I wish was standard.

Anonymous Tue Feb 5 03:07:51 2019 No.5349084

apologies to any intelligent person who dislikes the n64 controller but it's basically impossible to tell the difference between you guys and people who are actual idiots that dislike the controller cause they don't know how to hold it or have tiny peanut sized brains that can't adapt to novel control schemes

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 5 03:30:52 2019 No.5349102 >>5344607 >usually you have to prioritize the comfort of one of them >priotizing buttons on your fucking button machine Yes, dumbing down the games to go full Atari 2600 is the only way that controller makes sense.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 5 07:01:10 2019 No.5349306 >>5344573 The n64 controller is quite ergonomic

Anonymous Tue Feb 5 07:12:13 2019 No.5349315

>>5343451
I hate nintendo, but this is a shit meme. Back in the day kids would come to my house to play kong racing and starfox and they loved using these, as they look like claws, plus they're fucking comfortable and the games were fun. (Little did i know there were less than ten good games on the console, courtesy of nintendo's shit marketing and cartridge autism.)

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 5 07:19:27 2019 No.5349324 File: 114 KB, 1200x623, 1200px-Intellivision-Console-Set.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Why has nobody posted the Intellivision controller yet?

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 5 07:20:20 2019 No.5349325 >>5343451 t. retarded underage who only saw the controller on 9gag "three arms xxDD" memes >>5343598 it wasn't great, even as a kid i didn't like the d-pad that much, but it wasn't a blunder at all and the second set of shoulder buttons was a good idea

Anonymous Tue Feb 5 07:21:11 2019 No.5349329

>>5344984
I've been played DC since release and i never had trouble with my controllers. Recently i bought used ones because i have more buddies to play with and they have no problem whatsoever. These people are playing the console for the first time.
So eat a dick, liar. I bet you bought fake chinese controllers or something.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 5 07:28:05 2019 No.5349337 >>5343593 >>5343451 I cringe so much with pro-playstation niggers. Please kill yourselves. Stop pretending everything besides the dualshock is not decent enough, not everyone cares about playing rpg shit with a hard divided d-pad.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 5 07:33:26 2019 No.5349346 >>5349337 back to /v/ bro

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 5 07:56:45 2019 No.5349371 >>5349337 Don't forget to buy Super Mario Bros.™ for the fifth time on your Nintendo™ Switch™.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 5 10:11:41 2019 No.5349536 >>5343425 This cannot be true. The needless pigfat bulk and the horrendous feel of the L&R buttons and Dpad are made so much better by the model 2.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 5 10:15:12 2019 No.5349542 >>5349324 sorry, gramps

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 5 10:23:07 2019 No.5349551 >>5343679 Nah, this is comfy as fuck. Your hands are just small.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 5 10:24:05 2019 No.5349552 >>5349536 Well it is true. But that's just like my opinion, man.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 5 14:33:06 2019 No.5349934 >>5343679 look at this fucking handlet over here. it took me over 35 minutes just to type this my hands are so bigggg

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 5 14:43:50 2019 No.5349952 >>5343418 Cheap joysticks for home computers in the 1980s.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 5 14:47:02 2019 No.5349957 >>5344603 >stating objective facts is now zoomer You'd have to be an absolute retard to think the N64 controller was designed even half good. It was a fucking mess for anything that wasn't Super Mario 64.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 5 14:47:05 2019 No.5349958 File: 905 KB, 1886x923, philips cdi controllers.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5343418

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 5 14:50:16 2019 No.5349968 >>5344620 Teleroboxer was a fantastic spinoff of the punchout formula and I really wish Nintendo would revive it because the mech designs made for some really creative fights.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 5 14:53:42 2019 No.5349973 >>5349952 This. People who talk shit about some 90s console controllers have NO CLUE how bad it was in during the home computer era. No fucking clue. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GbQajuuX6mM We somehow survived even that.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 5 14:54:03 2019 No.5349974 >>5349082 >the control stick is still fantastic >the one thing on the controller that wears out quicker than everything else and created a huge deadzone if you used it too much

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 5 14:59:52 2019 No.5349979 >>5343418 Loved it. Just broke too easily.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 5 15:33:08 2019 No.5350064 File: 12 KB, 300x308, A piece of shit.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Gummy buttons that barely register, a non- centering joystick that was guaranteed to break if you so much as even look at it, and just plain awkward to hold in your hands.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 5 17:28:48 2019 No.5350323 >>5343418 This was literally the best controller of the era and ever made.

Anonymous Tue Feb 5 17:30:44 2019 No.5350325

>>5349536
Talk about a ridiculous exaggeration, it's a tiny bit bigger, still small compared to the N64 / Dreamcast controllers, so you must have tiny hands. It's smoother, and the D Pad and buttons are far less likely to give you blisters on this model. The L&R are improved on the second model, but to say they feel "horrendous" in this model is a retarded exaggeration, they feel fine, they're slightly better in model 2.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 5 17:49:58 2019 No.5350343 File: 18 KB, 750x296, IMG_20190205_234914.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5344603

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 5 17:52:13 2019 No.5350347 >>5343552 This had its perks, honestly. Being able to quick-switch to any weapon in Doom was a big deal; other console ports had you cycle one at a time.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 5 20:11:26 2019 No.5350638 >>5350064 It's the worst controller ever made. Nothing else comes close. It's so hard to find a working one now too.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 5 23:08:19 2019 No.5350913 >>5343593 the dreamcast controller has to be the cheapest piece of shit excuse for a proprietary controller ever made. at very least, it's between the dreamcast controller and the switch joycons.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 6 02:08:07 2019 No.5351174 maybe not the biggest but minicds on the gamecube was a mistake

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 6 02:17:44 2019 No.5351184 >>5351174 oh im retarded, controller. yea n64 idk whats worse

Anonymous Wed Feb 6 02:30:29 2019 No.5351195

ok so i'm a zoomer and have no context to this
why did every company from the 70s and 80s outside of sega and nintendo have an obsession with making awful controllers filled with numpads or something similar?
is it just the transition from PCs like the ZX and C64 being used for vidya to home consoles making everything awkward or what?

Anonymous Wed Feb 6 02:33:05 2019 No.5351201

>>5351195
sorry let me rewrite part of this:
>numpads or something similarly ridiculous, eg. the 7800's super awkward joystick, is it due to gaming transitioning from PCs and arcades to home consoles and attempting to replicate that experience on a smaller scale?

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 6 02:56:13 2019 No.5351228 >>5343598 I have dozens maybe hundreds of Tekken hours on that pad. Worked fine even with HCF/QCF moves.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 6 02:57:14 2019 No.5351230 >>5343679 I'm Asian, 5'2" with comparable hands. I LOVED this controller. screw the S one.

Anonymous Wed Feb 6 03:52:51 2019 No.5351284

>>5343451
Zoomers seem to think that the ps1 always had dualshock from the start. They're both outdated controllers that have been throughly surpassed in terms of ergonomics, input options and features. I would rather have the N64 controller over the standard ps1 controller with it's harsh ergonomics and it's stiff buttons. Funnily enough, the only controller that you can say get's a pass from that generation is the saturn pad, it was perfect for 2d games and still is. But that's not where the industry was heading or cared about at the time.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 6 05:34:29 2019 No.5351352 >>5351228 Woooosh

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 6 08:02:18 2019 No.5351464 >>5343451 unironically this, the 64 controller was poop

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 6 08:31:37 2019 No.5351494 >>5343634 It's not though, it's all one piece under the plastic and pivots just like a normal one

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 6 15:36:32 2019 No.5352171 >>5343425 Same. Also 6 button Genga Drive>JP Saturn controller.

Anonymous Thu Feb 7 07:54:45 2019 No.5353772
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>>5345013
They weere what I used for most of the fighting games on the system. However for Marvel Vs. Capcom 2, they did develop it with the Dreamcast controller in mind.

>>5345050
This seems sarcastic ...

>>5345467
Money is difficult to come by. I have to settle for clone consoles. I didn't spend anywhere near that amount for Dreamcast, most of the stuff was from clearance bins for super cheap. No one likes Sega in my country so it was always $5 or less for a game, the peripherals were down to $20 or less.

>>5349329
Your friends seem like they appreciate the Dreamcast. I too enjoyed the Dreamcast in its day but my friends all hated it. No one in the USA likes Sega games back then. It was a common saying with my friends and strangers to just say "wait for the Playstation 2" in those days. As for fake Chinese controllers, I really do want the Treamcast controllers. The Treamcast controllers seem to be ideal for my hands.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 7 08:02:33 2019 No.5353776 File: 47 KB, 600x399, HSS-0130.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5343418 Get one of these and never look back. Arcade hardware, arcade prices.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 7 08:05:56 2019 No.5353779 >>5345467 Don't forget the roughly $1500 in flashcarts.

Anonymous Thu Feb 7 10:05:28 2019 No.5353961

Weirdly, I never had much trouble with any controller layout until the GBA SP. (The fact it wasn't very wide, and was too thin, plus the clicky d-pad and bad L and R buttons made me stick with my original GBA). Starting from NES, the only controllers I never had the chance to try were the Saturn ones, the non-default Dreamcast controllers, Gameboy Micro and Virtual Boy.

Also, the OG Dualshock controller had a great weight to it, and the PS2 controllers felt cheap and lightweight compared to them imo, but were functionally fine.

>>5349958
Oh God, is that where those shitty Gravis PC pads came from?!

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 7 10:06:18 2019 No.5353964 >>5348947 it doesn't just get me that sony made the perfect dpad with the vita and then went backwards to what the DS4 has, it's that they made fucking working protoypes of the DS4 with a vita dpad and then decided to change it.

Anonymous Thu Feb 7 10:23:12 2019 No.5353989

>>5353961
Wait, I forgot, the Game Gear was pretty lame quality-wise. I'm not sure if I'm too keen on the Microswitched Neo Geo Pocket Color stick either, but that's because I'm always afraid of the switches wearing out. I also never got to try the PCEngine, 3DO, CDi, Neo Geo console, or non-VCS/2600 Atari controllers.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 7 10:23:21 2019 No.5353990 >>5353961 >Oh God, is that where those shitty Gravis PC pads came from?! Philips licenced the design from Gravis, not the other way around.

Anonymous Thu Feb 7 11:50:32 2019 No.5354153

>>5350913
>Joycons
>cheap
Stupid nigger, they're the main chunk of the pricetag. In addition they are great controllers, well built-as have been every Nintendo controller/handheld since the dawn of such products. So please explain how they are cheap without being an autistic grognard desperate for a (you)

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 7 11:52:33 2019 No.5354160 >>5351201 My guess is that they wanted it to seem like a phone/remote to help proliferate the product and make the system feel less intimidating

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 7 23:10:03 2019 No.5355542 >>5343991 One for the Y-axis, one for the Z-axis.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 7 23:18:08 2019 No.5355559 File: 382 KB, 2100x1041, 215161632_vH4R5-2100x20000.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5343679

Anonymous Fri Feb 8 00:28:57 2019 No.5355691

>>5343451
desu the only flaw with it was the joystick being a hard plastic piece of shit that would literally cut your hand if you used it too long, to the point where certain mario party games got banned and removed from later mario parties like 2/3

it's a pretty comfy controller otherwise

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 8 09:09:18 2019 No.5356168 >>5343418 Can you imagine if the PlayStation 5 launched and Sony both delayed it's launch date in various countries and announced that the PlayStation 6 was less than a year away? What the fuck were Sega thinking?!

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 8 14:30:30 2019 No.5356743 File: 65 KB, 518x396, 1548892656462.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5356168 >sega >thinking

Anonymous Sat Feb 9 04:20:55 2019 No.5358097
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>>5343418
No. these were the big blunders.

1. Sega Megadrive 3 button controller
When Street Fighter and Mortal Kombat became mega-popular it was very frustrating to be saddled with the original 3 button controller. 6 button version eventually came out but it should have never been a problem to start with.

2. 3do 5 button controller
See above. And they should have known better by the time.

4. N64 analog stick wearing out in the USA
something to do with the way they are greased means NA N64 analog sticks become loose over time. Japanese versions don't have this problem.

3. Nintendo advantage + 90% of other arcade sticks not having real arcade parts in them.
It took a staggeringly stupid amount of time before true arcade-quality controls became something you could buy off of a department store shelf, with rare exceptions.

4. Mad Catz cable design.
Mad Catz had this habit of making controllers with a weak point right where it connected to the controller, resulting in frayed wires and a loose connection

5. PC Engine controller in general
Not enough buttons and stupid need for break-out box design.

Anonymous Sat Feb 9 04:23:36 2019 No.5358101

>>5358097
>When Street Fighter and Mortal Kombat became mega-popular it was very frustrating to be saddled with the original 3 button controller. 6 button version eventually came out but it should have never been a problem to start with.
So you listed this but not how the PS1 controller didn't come with sticks initially which was arguably worse?

Anonymous Sat Feb 9 04:27:10 2019 No.5358105

>>5358101
I can't really think of any PlayStation game where the lack of analog control would be a complete game breaker in the way only having four buttons to work with was for SF2.

Maybe Gran Turismo, although I still played that game with the d-pad even after I owned a dual shock.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 9 04:27:57 2019 No.5358108 >>5343679 why would they make the logo so huge in the middle? Were they thinking of inserting a display and decided not to last second? Seriously, why so much real-estate for a giant plastic decal?

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 9 04:29:24 2019 No.5358110 >>5358108 >Were they thinking of inserting a display and decided not to last second? yup

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 9 04:30:31 2019 No.5358113 File: 29 KB, 460x345, p-158144-dreamcast-controller-1vcm-460[1].jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5358110 recall that the Xbox was originally going to be compatible with Dreamcast games

Anonymous Sat Feb 9 04:31:01 2019 No.5358114

>having 4 awkward buttons on top of your PS1 controller where it's way too easy to hit one of the back ones accidentally
Playstation was the original bad controller. Saturn's was godly. Saturn destroyed the fucking PS1 and N64 in every single way except that viral marketing by Sony and Nintendo made the first Dumb Gamer Generation want those inferior consoles instead.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 9 04:31:45 2019 No.5358115 File: 74 KB, 480x480, 1510293453843.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5358113 >what could have been

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 9 04:32:26 2019 No.5358117 >>5358114 are you a real person

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 9 04:33:11 2019 No.5358119 >>5358114 PS1 and PS2 L2 and R2 buttons weren't as easy to bump as the PS3 ones. What an abomination of a design choice.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 9 04:34:16 2019 No.5358121 >>5358117 More real than any of today's so-called "gamers".

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 9 04:47:53 2019 No.5358142 >>5358105 >I can't really think of any PlayStation game where the lack of analog control would be a complete game breaker in the way Playing 3D games without an analog stick is almost always a game breaker

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 9 04:50:13 2019 No.5358143 >>5358142 playstation examples?

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 9 04:54:26 2019 No.5358149 >>5358143 Any game where you control something in a full 3D world. Gran Turismo for instance.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 9 05:01:56 2019 No.5358157 File: 278 KB, 2256x1396, Namco_Negcon_centred.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5358149 >semi-official >available from day one

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 9 05:03:36 2019 No.5358159 >>5358149 I already mentioned Gran Turismo being easily playable with the d-pad. Name another or face being labeled as zoomer trash.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 9 05:04:59 2019 No.5358160 >>5358157 """"available"""" Never seen one in the flesh in 20 years of lookin' through used game piles.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 9 05:29:03 2019 No.5358176 >>5358159 Racing games without analog sticks are trash my dude. That’s why wheels are a big deal. Digital controls don’t give the genuine car experience.

Anonymous Sat Feb 9 05:32:13 2019 No.5358180

>>5358097
>1. Sega Megadrive 3 button controller
that was only problem with fighters, 80% games on snes or genesis dont use more than two-three buttons anyway. And those two games came out 3-4 years after genesis was released

>3. Nintendo advantage + 90% of other arcade sticks not having real arcade parts in them.
because of the price, if they had real arcade parts they would have been five times more expensive and nobody would have bought them.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 9 05:44:11 2019 No.5358189 >>5358157 >>5358160 I own one, picked it up in a second hand store 15 years ago. It's atrocious to use. I'd rather play GT with a dpad than my neGcon.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 9 05:51:15 2019 No.5358194 >>5343418 I have big hands, so this is fine for me. The d-pad feels great for arcade stuff.

Anonymous Sat Feb 9 06:21:55 2019 No.5358216
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>>5343598
Proof that Nintendo hates 2D games, or its customer base in general.

Look at that "Dpad", look at it and laugh

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 9 07:18:37 2019 No.5358279 File: 21 KB, 466x466, 71EDpg3UiWL._SX466_.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5358216 thats why you get the PRO controller

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 9 08:32:14 2019 No.5358394 >>5358157 The steering function's pretty neat so long as you have brake mapped to the shoulder button, but the d-pad sucks ass. You gotta really mash those corners for diagonal inputs to register. This controller is pretty much for driving games ONLY.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 9 08:33:17 2019 No.5358395 >>5358216 >Nintendo hates ... its customer base in general. NOW you're getting it.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 9 12:50:28 2019 No.5358819 File: 2.00 MB, 371x331, 1548579380050.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5358394 >even contemplating using it for anything other than driving and flying games

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 9 14:15:48 2019 No.5359037 >>5358819 The D-Pad LOOKED better than it actually was, alright?

Anonymous Sat Feb 9 15:45:49 2019 No.5359223

>>5358097
>1. Sega Megadrive 3 button controller
>When Street Fighter and Mortal Kombat became mega-popular it was very frustrating to be saddled with the original 3 button controller. 6 button version eventually came out but it should have never been a problem to start with.

Genesis came out BEFORE SF2 was even a thing in people's mind even in the US! so it would not make any sense to release it with more than 3 buttons on its controller. even nintendo was originally going for only 4 buttons in the SNES before creating the shoulder buttons, and even when it 1st came out in japan in late 1990 it felt like risky and excessive, but for better or for worse, ended up helping when SF2 was ported in 92.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 9 15:53:24 2019 No.5359242 >>5349324 there's nobody who will get angry if you say you didn't like that system, so nobody's going to pick that one to bait for (You)s

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