Please help

[Anonymous No.5319065]

I want to play the original star ocean games but I can only find the psp games and remember reading mixed things about these versions. Are the differences really a big deal? The new art looks cute

[Anonymous No.5319075]

>>5319065
If you like the new art play the PSP version, undub recommended as the new dub is still meh.

A major change it makes is that the "martial" characters can perform 3-hit combos naturally right out the gate, which has a major effect on the difficulty, and that the harder difficulty modes are unlocked by killing 1000 or 2000 monsters instead of voice collection. You can also recruit Welch.

[Anonymous No.5319094]

>>5319075
>You can also recruit Welch.
What is, shit nobody cares about for $300, Alex.

[Anonymous No.5319095]

>>5319065
the psp version has fucked up music

the music is probably the comfiest thing about the games in the first place

the resolution is also wrong so you see less of the prerendered backgrounds

[Anonymous No.5319101]

>>5319094
one of the most fun ways to play the game is to just stay with the two starting characters to see all the unique storyline differences

also instead of beating the wisemen by outnumbering them there will end up being a fight where they outnumber you instead, and that owns

[Anonymous No.5319104]

Are you looking to download or buy? The originals are easy to find either way. Try emulator/ rom sites, thats where I got it about two months ago.

[Anonymous No.5319128]

>>5319095
how is it fucked up?

[Anonymous No.5319135]

>>5319128
all music in ports of psx games to psp have compressed music data

[Anonymous No.5319162]

>>5319065
I prefer the 90's stylistic anime look of the original, but to each their own.

The second evolution fixes some bugs and adds new cut scenes and private actions, but it also completely changes the flow of battle for melee fighters by breaking up the flow of combat into three hit combos. Also the new voice acting is mediocre whereas the old one was so bad that it was charming.

[Anonymous No.5319172]

>>5319101
Someone on /vr/ keeps saying there's a bunch of unique scenes if you only play with two characters like when Claude gets ported to the Clanus at the end of Expel, but no one ever elaborates on this. I'm not sure if I'm getting memed or not, but I love this game so much I'll try it anyway.

[Anonymous No.5319569]

>>5319172

Ive played through SO2 multiple times with various character combos. Ive done Just Rena and Claude. There is nothing major about doing it just as Rena and Claude. There are minor changes in dialogue. Like Celine re-joining you in Mars after you ditched her. Who cheers for Claude in the arena if the group is Rena, who keeps ditching to do her quest. The end scene where they talk about the survivors being sent to Expel. References to the group sometimes are changed and sometimes not. As not all the dialogue for this was filled it. It does indeed have instances where they recognized people could just have Rena and Claude. No new scenes, no story line differences, it's the same game.

[Anonymous No.5319620]

I played the first game on SNES and the second game on PSX. Never played the remakes but I imagine they fix glitches and even out the difficulty curve.

Maybe play 1 on PSP since it's a remake of a very old game. But Star Ocean 2 wasn't super badly outdated imo.

[Anonymous No.5319752]

>>5319569
Rena goes to Claude's ship and doesn't ditch you for Dias during the tournament.

[Anonymous No.5319768]

>>5319569
>>5319752
To clarify, you can still fuck up your relationship even if it's just the two of you, and there are differences depending on which one is your main, I'd recommend being nice to your waifu/husbando and doing all the private actions with them. There's even a way you can get them to let you pick people's pockets without getting angery.

[Anonymous No.5320409]

>>5319569
>>5319752
Someone said Claude can actually win the Tournament of Arms if it's only him and Rena.

[Anonymous No.5320550]

>>5319752

This is completely and totally untrue. Under no circumstances does Rena go the Calnus. There is nothing to trigger this. Neither in Rena's game or Claude's game. As Claude, Rena is left alone. As Rena, you are left alone. The battle suits you still are totally a claude exclusive event.

If you play as Rena, you still ditch Claude for the tournament. This is all mandatory storyline and a random audience member cheers claude on if there are no other party members. Same on Claude's side.

>>5320409

Impossible within the story to win, it's a scripted loss. You can beat the fight, but you fight him again and again till you lose.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AySYsLcLv7Y


It's the same on the PS1 version with different dialogue.

[Anonymous No.5320560]

>>5320550
Someone's been saying you get an alternate scene at the end of the Expel Arc for a while now.

[Anonymous No.5320567]

>>5320550
Wow, the audio is really bad in the PSP version.

[Anonymous No.5320850]

>>5320560
Isn't that image bullshit? You can steal the armor at the end of disc 1 with a regular party.

[Anonymous No.5320934]

What's the good ending? My game just kinda of ended, but I didn't recruit anyone besides witch bitch and dragon boy

[Anonymous No.5320998]

>>5320934
>witch bitch
>dragon boy
That's actually the only really fun characters to me, so congrats.
There's no "good" or "bad" ending, it's generic and the relationship between the characters are only change a little depending on the PA you've done during the game.

[Anonymous No.5321028]

>>5320998
Okay, thanks. Yeah, the ending felt pretty generic and abrupt. Otherwise I though the game was great.

[Anonymous No.5321045]

>>5321028
>Otherwise I though the game was great

Even disc 2?

[Anonymous No.5321070]

>>5320550
>This is completely and totally untrue. Under no circumstances does Rena go the Calnus. There is nothing to trigger this. Neither in Rena's game or Claude's game. As Claude, Rena is left alone. As Rena, you are left alone. The battle suits you still are totally a claude exclusive event.
Dude you fucked it up by missing events or lying to your spouse or something. Claude doesn't leave her behind he gets her to hug him and transport at the same time. You're probably just a shitty partner if you fucked up the relationship, that shit is full dating sim secret route tier.

There should be no single point in the entire storyline where they're separated after the second village. You do not add other party members, not even temporarily, you do not leave their side, you track them down and stalk them during private actions, you do not let them die in battle unless it's the most desperate of circumstances. You never say anything to disregard their feelings or make them jealous. You have to actually be 100% faithful to an autistic degree. You have to obsess over them like they are the only thread that connects you to anything that matters on this crazy alien world.

You can still fail even if you don't recruit other characters.

[Anonymous No.5321071]

>>5320850
not if you're rena

[Anonymous No.5321076]

>>5321045
Honestly, I get a little final third fatigue with all rpgs. I'm not sure I felt it anymore with star ocean or not. Luckily my characters pretty strong, so none of it was longer than needed. It's a bit of a blur at this point, though.
I'm getting a little burned out on Grandia right now despite having loved the first 2/3. I just got to the second disc.

[Anonymous No.5321078]

>>5321071
No one play as a girl.

[Anonymous No.5321082]

>>5321076
>burned out on Grandia right now
Fuck, that's not good. Where are you, exactly?

[Anonymous No.5321087]

>>5321082
Like I said, I just got to the second disc so virgin Island. I mean, I haven't gotten burned out, just kind of bummed some party members left because I'd built them up as my healer. It's still one of the best jrpgs I've played.

[Anonymous No.5321105]

>>5321087
I know that feel, the game is amazing but the later characters are absolutely meh or downright insufferable. We all know Justin, Feena, Sue and Gadwin are the absolute best team. I wish Mullen was playable.

[Anonymous No.5321121]

>>5321087
You get to keep their spell levels though so it's not like you actually lost your healer.

Is there something you don't like about Mogu and the Amazon chick? I can agree that Rapp is a bit disappointing as a final party member but your other final member is hilarious and lays down some of the most epic burns in videogame history.

[Anonymous No.5321127]

>>5321121
He's obviously talking about BEST GRIL Sue.

[Anonymous No.5321134]

>>5321127
It was always obvious that she was going to leave though. You'd have to be crazy not to see it coming.

[Anonymous No.5321142]

>>5321134
Sue seemed the least likely to leave. Shes with you from the beginning, has the strongest connection to you, and it's seemingly impossible once you get over the wall

[Anonymous No.5321159]

>>5321142
You're just making shit up because you wanted to pound that loli pussy

[Anonymous No.5321163]

>>5321159
You're the one without an argument here.

[Anonymous No.5321172]

>>5321159
No, feena is objectively the best girl for fucking but sue is top tier bro.

[Anonymous No.5321220]

>>5321163
>>5321172
how can you not understand what's inherently wrong about taking an actual child into a dungeon filled with deathtraps or letting her get fucking jailed in an imperial military base? You can't drag a 9 year old through a poisonous swamp and a jungle filled with maneating insects. it's psychopathic.

[Anonymous No.5321238]

>>5321076
I also got 3rd act burnout with a lot of rpgs. I also wish I didn't waste my time finishing Grandia though. After the Lunars being as good as they were I found that game a huge flop.

[Anonymous No.5321246]

>>5321220
Well I haven't seen the last leg of the game so I can't speak to how much worse it gets for them, but by the time she leaves they've already been through a military jail, and a handful of bad spots. Hell, even Justin seems to be pretty fucking young. That's part of the charm, it's a couple of kids in way over their heads without even knowing it because they're too damn optimistic.

[Anonymous No.5321265]

>>5321220
That happens all the fucking time in jarpigs.

[Anonymous No.5321271]

>>5321246
>>5321265
you might understand when you're older but then again maybe you won't

[Anonymous No.5321286]

>>5321271
I'm old enough, don't forget your on /vr/. But we're talking about an anime game that is specifically about children going on a wild ass adventure. I understand it's not ethical to endanger children,but these are imaginary characters in and imaginary world with imaginary rules. I'm not really sure why they'd have a change of heart so far into the game when up until that point no adult characters had batted an eye

[Anonymous No.5321287]

>>5321271
Jarpigs don't follow real life logic, silly. The genre is filled with overpowered lolis.

[Anonymous No.5321305]

>>5321286
you're insane if you didn't notice it being foreshadowed a long time in advance.

[Anonymous No.5321323]

>>5321220
I'm with them, that's a weird thing to get worked up over in an rpg. You can send Realm solo to go fight Atma weapon if you want. Look at the horrors an infant gets put through in Yoshi's Story... They're just games.

[Anonymous No.5321350]

>>5321323
To be fair Yoshi's Story made me really uncomfortable as a child when I remembered all the times I got molested while my parents were off doing who the fuck knows what.

[Anonymous No.5321364]

>>5321350

I'm hard. Please go on.

[Anonymous No.5321365]

>>5321305
Eh, theres some foreshadowing almost immediately before hand and some earlier on. All the early concerns seem to fly out the window once they get over the wall. Either way, Sue is the most endearing character as Justin is kind of a chud.
How much game is left after the first disc?

[Anonymous No.5321393]

>>5321365
both more and less than you think

the final boss is really hard compared to everything else in the game

[Anonymous No.5321398]

>>5321393
Thanks, I'll grind a little extra on the way.

[Anonymous No.5321402]

>>5321305
Yah in hindsight it's obvious how her stat growth and attack dps are underwhelming plus her constant exhaustion and missing home. Pretty obvious she was going to leave soon.

[Anonymous No.5321762]

>>5320560

Someone's been lying for a while now.

>>5321070

This would completely change the narrative of the game for Rena to discover Claude is an alien and the Calnus at this point. You're claiming either the entire rest of the game plays out differently, and Rena has a higher level of understanding for the ten wise men, her origins and so on, or the game completely ignores this?

Besides, if Rena came up too and there were 0 other party members down on Expel, Claude would have no reason to go back down, the game would effectively end at disc 1.

[Anonymous No.5321790]

>>5321762
They go back down so that they can save the planet from getting exploded and protect their friends (who are not party members). They go on the offensive instead of taking shit from bullies.

[Anonymous No.5321804]

>>5321790

Ok, got any screenshots or video of said event?

[Anonymous No.5321832]

One of their rare occurrences where Americans got the superior box art.

[Anonymous No.5321963]

>>5321804
I don't know man do you have any screenshots or videos of the holocaust?

undoctored ones preferrably

[Anonymous No.5322140]

Let's try this shit again: Are the PSP versions good or not?

[Anonymous No.5322215]

>>5319065
>I can only find the psp games
https://www.emuparadise.me/Sony_Playstation_ISOs/Star_Ocean_-_The_Second_Story_[NTSC-U]_[Disc1of2]/37601
https://www.emuparadise.me/Sony_Playstation_ISOs/Star_Ocean_-_The_Second_Story_[NTSC-U]_[Disc2of2]/37602
>>5322140
The normal attack with the 3 hit combo can be annoying if you spam like a sperg
Voice re-dub was fine imo
Mischief/Trickster/Fortune was made more annoying

[Anonymous No.5322217]

>>5322140

define good, what are your concerns?

[Anonymous No.5322227]

>>5322215
>>5322217
did they change a lot with the crafting?

[Anonymous No.5322250]

>>5322227
I don't think so, most of the items had name changes like the Eternal Sphere being called Aeterna, which is kinda fitting since lex aeterna means the eternal law.

[Anonymous No.5322272]

>>5322215
Did dis niga jus link to emuparadise?

Serious though, without the script how do you expect people to use emuparadise?

>>5322140
Good luck getting solid answers from retard autistics. You need to ask the question like a statement - "The psp versions of Star Ocean are the superior versions" then you will get actual replies about what they are. Otherwise you get >>5322217

[Anonymous No.5322304]

>>5322272
>talks about how people won't contribute or help
>doesn't contribute or help either

The PSP versions are largely straight ports of the game, so asking if they're good is really very subjective. I don't like the voice acting in Second Evolution, but that's me. Id play the PSP versions of SO1 and the PS1 version of SO2, but Im not saying the other versions are bad. The question isn't "which should I play?" it's "are they good or not" so....you gotta define what you mean more.

[Anonymous No.5322307]

>>5322272
>without the script
Sorry, haven't been to emuparadise in a long time, what's wrong with it? what do you mean by this? apart from "This game is unavailable" I just found out about it.
I can upload my copies to file site (mega/other if someone provides me a link).

[Anonymous No.5322576]

>>5322140
Play in the psx version on psp.

[Anonymous No.5322753]

>>5321121
How do I reassign the spell levels to another party member?

[Anonymous No.5323037]

>>5322307
Emuparadise got killed by Bing Bing Wahoo. I'd appreciate a PSX upload though fren.

[Anonymous No.5323039]

>>5322753
you should just get an item like a scroll or something that you can use on whoever

[Anonymous No.5323058]

>>5323037
Eh, all the files are still in place, you just need a specific script to download their stuff

[Anonymous No.5323068]

>>5323058
Tell me what it is or I'll sic my doge on you

[Anonymous No.5323094]

>>5323068
https://hackinformer.com/2018/08/21/workaround-to-download-roms-off-emuparadise-again/

[Anonymous No.5323095]

>>5319065
Test

[Anonymous No.5323128]

>>5323094
Thanks bud

[Anonymous No.5323172]

Listening to the English dub for the first time.
Fucking
disgusting

For real-time JRPGs, I really don't understand how anyone can stomach English VAs constantly screeching their attack moves. In Jap they always sound more, lack of a better word, pleasing to the ears.

[Anonymous No.5323285]

>>5323094
Thanks m8

[Anonymous No.5323362]

>>5323172
>thuuuunderbolt
I like it

[Anonymous No.5323493]

>>5323172
Because as a kid playing SO2 on the PSX, it's not like I knew better. So I heard it first and grew to like pearing into peaches.

[Anonymous No.5323512]

>>5323094
>>5323058
>>5322272
RULE 1 & 2

[Anonymous No.5324027]

>>5323512
Sit and spin

[Anonymous No.5324039]

are any of the Star Ocean games after 2 even worth playing?

[Anonymous No.5324637]

>>5323493

Same. Being it was one of the first games I ever played to feature such heavy use of voice acting, aside from star fox 64, I ate it up. I like a lot of the voices, it really gave them personality. Except for Noel, it's literally Claude with a cold. The fact they'd sometimes say other things, it was really cool for me. I was never into graphics, but the voices hooked me.

>>5324039

oooo...that's well..... no. SO3 lacks the charm of 2 and tries to up the ante too far. I liked parts of, some of the characters are fun, but SO2 has a very cohesive plot. As messy as it seems, it still sits itself in distant future sci-fi. SO3 is sci-fi, but it goes to futures beyond realms of technology and magic blurring and the plot is far weaker. The battle system is enjoyed by some people for its depth and control, but I didn't find it an improvement.

SO4 got very repetitive to me, it was fun at times. The battle system is slick enough, I found some cool combos, and it was mostly fun. Over all, it drags on and has the most anime flat narrative. It's uninspiring and bland and I can't even really remember the story at all, but I do remember major points and stuff being dumb.

I haven't played the 5th one, but Id like to try it, Im not hopeful.

[Anonymous No.5324676]

>>5324039
3 is my favorite, if only for that big fat dictionary. 4 and 5 lacked the "charm" that will traditionally prop up less-than-stellar RPGs for me.

[Anonymous No.5324698]

>>5324039
3 and 4 do some fun things with its battle system, but both didn't really have a character I sync'd with in battle. It's like picking up a fighting game but none of the characters click with you in any way. SO3 only had 2 or 3 characters I liked and I only liked playing as 1 or 2 characters in SO4. I started 5 but only played for like 2 hours before stopping. I just didn't feel like sinking my teeth deep into a JRPG at the time.

[Anonymous No.5324748]

>>5324039
There were only two games.

[[e-mail] No.5325739]

I played star ocean 1 for the psp and I enjoyed it and I played star ocean 2 for the ps1 back in the day. I use to play that game all the time. there was only one part of the game I couldn't beat and thats that stupid secret dungeon late game. I finally got to the last floor and got wipped pretty easily. Dropped the game after that. Has anyone ever beaten it here? How did you do it? I had almost everything maxed out I don't know how else to go about it. I think I was lvl 250 or something like that.

[Anonymous No.5326398]

>>5323172
This was the first game I remember looking for a Japanese copy of because the voices were so ridiculous. Still the English VAs are kind of charming in a so-bad-it's-good kind of way.

[Anonymous No.5327119]

>>5325739
I beat the final dungeon, but you have to plan from early game what characters you get and spam the correct OP killer moves like Opreas Alpha On One and Chisato's 10000 Volts.

Never beat the special summon boss you get through Orchestra though. I kept getting her low then dying to bullshit. Once I almost had her and my PSP battery died, so I rage quit and never attempted her again lel.

[Anonymous No.5327176]

>>5327119

Im pretty sure some skills buff stats and there's some kind of power gaming you can do there. Making sure to do that helps. You most certainly can't ignore dumping your skill points for them even if you don't craft.

[Anonymous No.5327245]

>>5327176
You pretty much need stuff like Kitchen Knife or the one that increases HP (survival?) on universe mode, but it's a bit overkill anywhere else. There's also the skill that decreases the cost of other skills, if you save points until you can get that one you can pretty much master every skill on every character.

>>5327119
The best KMs end up being the ones you can spam non-stop that also do multiple hits. Claude's Ripper Blast, Precis's Bobot Kick of all things, Bowman's weaponized pharmaceuticals. And of course Dias's Hawkscream Blast which just does outrageous damage if you can wedge another ally behind him so he doesn't knock back during the animation.

As a result though Ashton ends up being really bad because everything he does is SLOW with lots of dead frames.

Indalecio and Iseria Queen end up becoming mostly a question of whether you can stunlock them and keep them locked

[Anonymous No.5327840]

>>5327176
>>5327176
By 250 you should have all skills maxed out.

The real danger is missing the good characters and grabbing the shittier counter parts.

NO NOEL YOU CANT JOIN. TEND TO YOUR SHITTY ANIMALS IN YOUR SHITTY RESERVE.

[Anonymous No.5327860]

First Departure is the definitive version of the first game.
Second Evolution offers nothing new worth bothering with compared to just playing the PS1 version. But at the same time there's nothing all that wrong with it unless you're an autist.

[Anonymous No.5328092]

>>5327860
Too bad I'm an autist