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BUILD ENGINE THREAD
Rest in pieces: >>5276173
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>> No.5309305
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5309305

What version of Powerslave gets played these days? From my very limited understanding, the PS1 version is much superior to the PC release.
Has there been any unofficial ports like with DOOM64 EX?

>> No.5309312

>>5309305
seconding this, would also like to know.

also, what's everyone's favorite episode from blood? I'm playing through it for the first time, currently on episode 4. so far I'd rank them
2 > 1 > 4 > 3

>> No.5309320

>>5309312
2>4>3>1

>> No.5309335

>>5309320
nice. I just started E4M4. Does it pick up? Not that it's bad so far, but I feel like it's meh compared to some of the maps from E2 and E1.

>> No.5309339
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>>5309312
I just finished Blood for the first time myself, and the expansions as well. I loved the game, the mechanics and feel of it is so addictive. I think the dynamite and shotgun have instantly become some of my all time favorite weapons in gaming.
I would go
2 > 1 > 4 > Plasma Pak > Cryptic Passage > 3
I enjoyed every single episode though. 3 just felt a little stale comparatively, it did have one really good level but that's about it. I'd say 2 had my favorite levels, with "The Overlooked Hotel" possibly being my favorite level in the game.

I can't wait to get into Death Wish.

>> No.5309351

>>5309312
1>2>4>3

I think 1 is the most diverse with the train, carnival, etc. and the levels lead into one another pretty well. Secret level is good but has too much hitscanner spam on higher difficulties.

Ep. 2's winter theme is cool and I like the boat & mansion stuff, but some of the hedgemaze stuff is annoying and the secret level sucks.

Ep. 4 has the castle, mall, and forest, but some stuff feels tacked on and the In the Flesh level sorta comes out of nowhere and isn't that fun. I feel like they made the textures for that then ran out of time to do something good with it.

Ep. 3 Starts out cool but the sewer sucks (what were they thinking?) and I hate the mechanical stuff. The hospital is neat but easy to get lost inside. Secret level is meh.

>> No.5309357

>>5309312
>>5309320
I feel like the strength of E1 and E2 is in its cohesion going from level to level. You'll also get this in "Cryptic Passage" but since it's all reused assets from the main game, it doesn't feel quite the same.

>> No.5309363

>>5309351
Yeah episode 3 started off well. I really enjoyed the first couple of levels but it went downhill FAST with the sewer level and ended with two of my least favorite levels (Spare Parts and Monster Bait). I missed the secret level in that ep though, I'll have to replay it and play through it.

>> No.5309364

>>5309324
Thanks for your answer. I was just curious since it was released so much later, you never know how differently things may be balanced.
Like say "Lightly Broiled" being much more mellow in the mod than in the main game.

>> No.5309369

>>5309363
>my least favorite levels (Spare Parts and Monster Bait)
completely agree with you there. I found "Monster Bait" no fun at all, mainly a frustrating experience, and it also just looks shit. I'd say "The Sick Ward" is the only legitimately great one in E3.

>> No.5309373

>>5309357
I never really liked EP 1 of blood. Other than the dark carnival which is an awesome map. The majority of it just felt like rectangle and box rooms with cultists in them. The train level is only memorable because its on a train, but the actual gameplay is crap.

>> No.5309376
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>This guy smacks your girl on the ass and asks if she's interested
what do you do?

>> No.5309385

>>5309364
The original DW was brutal but by v1.4 and v1.5 the health drops and enemies became more sensible. For the reasons I stated I think it's easier than the original game if only because you won't get surprised by hitscanner squads. You'd better be a wiz with TNT, though - DW throws way more enemies at you in groups than OG Blood.

>> No.5309389

>>5309376

Throw a bundle of dynamite in his face.

>> No.5309394
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>>5309389
Wrong answer!

>> No.5309395
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>>5309376
shout MARANAX PALLEX

>> No.5309396

>>5309363
Ghost Town, The Siege and The Sick Ward are great.
Secret map "Catacombs" is just as tedious as some of the later levels of that episode.

>> No.5309398

>>5309385
I've been playing the main game (For the first time) on "Pink on the Inside" which has been pretty easy on me, I really only had trouble with "Plasma Pak" but the rest made for pretty safe playing. Debating whether or not I should do Lightly Broiled for the mod. I already started a new game on Lightly Broiled that I'm a few levels into by now.

>> No.5309408

>>5309398
That's a comfy skill to play.

>> No.5309414

>>5309394
I circle strafe him with my pitchfork.

>> No.5309427

>>5309357
I liked episode 2's gimmick with the napalm launcher, getting a ton of ammo for it before you actually find one made it so much more satisfying once you got it and could immediately cut loose. There weren't enough cultists in the second half of the episode and the rest of the E2 roster is pathetic, so it wasn't as fun as it could've been, and the boss is just an absolute joke. The mine level just before it was great though, and thematically it was probably my favorite episode. Still haven't done Cryptic Passage though.

>> No.5309438

>>5309376
AYE USE MY BRODE SODE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VbKEbk48Vdc

>> No.5309440

>>5309398
You can probably get through Death Wish on Lightly Broiled then. You'll have to use some tactics that you didn't need in the original game for dealing with large groups of enemies but it has less cheap shots where you get blasted in the face as soon as you enter a room. The level design is a lot more wide open, too, so you'll be moving around more in general.

>> No.5309451
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Caleb is the only protagonist that hasn't aged horribly, wish is funny considering he was probably the "edgiest" at the time. He actually holds up pretty well to this day, the VA is great as well. Duke is tired by now and Lo Wang is absolutely tasteless, regardless of whether or not he offends you.

>> No.5309478

>>5309427
To be fair, all bosses are pretty weak.

>> No.5309502
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This webm is what got me into this game. Saw it on /v/ a few months ago.

>> No.5309505

>>5309376
Orphelia? NNNNOOOOOOOOOOO

>> No.5309525

>>5309505
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y4bhh4OnQU4

>> No.5309526

>>5309478
The others at least had ranged attacks and the tricks that trivialized them required specific knowledge rather than basic tactics. Shial is a melee-only boss that fights by spawning melee-only minions, in the episode where you get absolute shitloads of napalm. As soon as you get her out of the room she starts in, the fight is over.

>> No.5309535

>>5309451
Man, it really saddens me how badly people think of Shadow Warrior. The game itself is really, really good once you get past how abrasive and mostly shit the joke aspect is. I just know there's probably someone out there who played it for 2 minutes and switched it off without giving it a chance.

>> No.5309539

>>5309526
I found that the Tesla Canon pretty much trivializes every single boss in the game. Although, then again I played on "Pink on the Inside" so I probably can't say anything with any certainty.

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>>5309451

>> No.5309553

>>5309535
I intend on giving it a shot soon, I'm pretty put off by the character, not that he offends me but its just so incredibly lame. The rest looks pretty good though, even though I don't have much of an interest in the samurai aesthetic. The weapons in the game look pretty great, especially the riot shotgun.

I feel like it is still more widely recognized than Blood is, which I didn't even know existed until a couple of months ago.

>> No.5309568

>>5309539
The Tesla Cannon is the only thing giving you a fighting chance on Well Done. Though it does still melt Tchernobog just about instantly, that's more the fault of the guns akimbo secret than the weapon itself.

>> No.5309579

>>5309451
You crying manchild

>> No.5309584

>>5309579
Not really, mate. I'm not offended by any of them, but I can still recognize something being tasteless and trite.

>> No.5309680

Is it possible to make a kart racing game in this engine? Like SRB2 Kart?

>> No.5309686

We got 2 new Shadow Warrior games. We got a Rise of the Triad reboot. We got...DNF...kind of. Will we get a Blood reboot/sequel?

>> No.5309689

>>5309686
Hope not. The only way I’d want it, is if they’d do it the way the 20th anniversary edition of duke did it.

>> No.5309704

>>5309689

I'd be ok with it if it was as good as Shadow Warrior 2.

>> No.5309708

>>5309584
Your "taste" means shit to me.

>> No.5309748

>>5309451
blow it out your ass

>> No.5309773

>>5309686
I don't want another Duke game ever again, until it's away from Gearbox for good. God knows how dumb their new modern take would be. The only thing Duke related thing that I'm interested in is the 2001 version of Duke Nukem Forever, which you can look up at judge for yourself.

>> No.5309879

>>5309686
We're getting an official port, which will assumably bring more attention to the game. But it's still pretty much in copyright hell, so I doubt anything will come of it.

>> No.5309898
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>not keeping your TNT in the fridge

>> No.5309905

>>5309305
>>5309312

The Saturn version is the superior release in terms of features, level designs and powerups. Fairly easy to emulate using Mednafen Saturn, and if you emulate a Sega 3D controller using any run-of-the-mill Xinput controller it plays fairly well, stands the test of time amazingly well for a ~97 console shooter.

The PS1 version is like the Saturn version with (usually) better framerates and resolution but much simplified level geometry. As tempting as this version may be it lacks a lot of the polish from the Saturn version, and the autoaim is way too weak for a console shooter so its much harder to play.

If you can find a build of Powerslave EX it would be a viable option for a native PC experience but unfortunately its levels and enemies are based on the inferior PS1 version, and the port was never properly completed so there are still a few bugs here and there. If Night Dive successfully acquires the rights for Powerslave then it might be completed in the future.

I've never played the original PC release, but it's so drastically different from the console versions in everything but title and aesthetic that it's like a different game. I hear good things about it, sort of like if Duke 3D was egypt-themed on an earlier version of the Build engine, and even though you're stuck with DOSBox there was a recent hack that fixes controls and bugs.

Hope that helps.

>> No.5310161

>>5309305
Just use DOSBox, I don't think theres of any ports for Powerslave. The PSX/Saturn games are not build games but are also pretty good.

>> No.5310254

Blood's greatness actually ends around The Haunting level. The first episode is fun for it's first four maps, then clearly went into tedium for the castle levels. Episode 2 has a great opening level, then two average maps, then the duo of awesomeness: Overlooked Hotel and The Haunting. The rest is weak.

And from episode 3 onwards, it became just a simple repetition.

In short, Blood should be packed into a single 8-9 level episode, having the first 4 of episode 1, E2M1, E2M4-5, and a boss+secret levels.

>> No.5310439

I actually have plans for putting in sequence and analyzing all the Terry Hamel's levels from Blood (excluding those co-authored by Nick Newhard) later.

>> No.5310443

>>5310439
And by those I mean E1M6, E3M2, E3M6, E4M2 and E4M6.

>> No.5310475

Where can I download the megaton edition of Duke Nukem 3d?

>> No.5310478

>>5309298
>European, American, Asian
nice

>> No.5310483 [DELETED] 

>>5310475
sorry I just noticed that the Doom generals had this download in the op.

>> No.5310485

>>5310478
and of course the European is the best of them all ;)

>> No.5310487

>>5310439
Kilstrom deserves credit for his design. Dark Carnival, Overlooked Hotel and The Haunting (3 of 5 he was involved) were the most famous of all.

>> No.5310491

>>5310487
Hamel's levels still interest me (as do Hubbard's, although to a much lesser extent), Kilstrom's - don't.

>> No.5310518
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This is making me hella nostalgic. Pretty sure this was responsible for my first ever erection, which I didn't even understand at the time. I just knew I really liked staring at this lady.

>> No.5310538

What are your thoughts on the Polymer renderer? I'm trying it out now in eduke and it makes the game so fucking dark, what is the best way to compensate for this? The visibility setting?

>> No.5310545

>>5310491
But we all know you have a shitty taste anon.

>> No.5310581

>>5310545
Even if I happened to claim having an exemplary taste before, I certainly haven't done anything like that recently. I merely state my current personal opinions and preferences.

>> No.5310598
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WHY CANT I PICK UP THIS KEYCARD?

>> No.5310618

Which Build Engine game has the best weapons?

For me it's Blood hands down. Duke is way too gimmicky for my taste, Blood not only has great variety to its weapons but also makes you use a wider variety of them.

>> No.5310620

>>5310618

Blood > Shadow Warrior > Duke

>> No.5310634

Do you guys think Duke would be into tgirls?

>> No.5310651

>>5310598
because you cheated and therefore already have it.
Spoilers: there is no scuba gear up to this point

>> No.5310658

>>5310651
oh, lol.
yeah, I'm just testing the game out and setting keybinds up and shit for now that's why I had cheats on.
forgot when I put the cheat on, but I couldn't interact with the panel that lets me blow that building up, so I guess I must have put the cheat codes in after that.

>> No.5310674

The Death Wish intro cinematic is so good.

>> No.5310681

any way to play blood with mouselook and higher res?

>> No.5310693

>>5310681
BloodGDX
https://m210.duke4.net/index.php/downloads/download/8-java/50-bloodgdx
You'll need JAVA though, but it is worth it. Great port that runs and looks amazing.

>> No.5310710

How much of Death Wish is broken in BloodGDX?

>> No.5310792

>>5310710
Most of the broken things related to GDX got fixed in the DW1.4 updates, which isn't much since Death Wish isn't adding new sounds, textures, or enemies. Palette 1 (white) still doesn't display properly the last time I checked, but that's a GDX problem and not the mod's problem (looks fine in DOSBox).

>> No.5310806

>>5310634
100% but only the bimbo kind and he wouldn't touch their dick, it'd be a dominance thing.

>> No.5310834
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>>5309298

>> No.5310838

>>5309451
duke humour:
>hyperbolic campiness
blood humour:
>referential
sw humour:
>shitty puns in a silly voice
rr humour:
>no jokes at all, only a silly voice

>> No.5310839

How do I read the books that you pick up in Death Wish? Also is it normal to get fps drops? Getting some pretty massive drops on the 2nd level, all the way down to 44fps in one area.

By the way the first level was great, I was not ready for the moment where you just start falling in space

>> No.5310842

>>5310839
iirc you get the text as a message when you pcik the books up.
are you playing with fps cycles set to auto? if no, try it. if yes, works on my machine.

I liked death wish, but it's not flawless like some people make it out to be. it's more linear than most build games, and tends to go for the "cinematic" feel of modern fps games. it relies heavily on scripted events and half life style in-game cutscenes, and often prevents you from backtracking/exploring.
still pretty fun to play, though. I liked how it sent you back to a different version of the previous level when you completed a secret level.

>> No.5310849

>>5310842
I don't get those messages popping up :(
At least not in the 2nd level.

>> No.5310853

>>5310849
Might want to check your GDX preferences and make sure messages/text is turned on.

>> No.5310874

>>5310853
Thanks, that worked.
I assume there's no way to edit this so that it doesn't show ammo and weapon pick ups?

>> No.5310957

>>5310478
Caleb is American.

>> No.5310960

>>5310518
Those hips, ass, and thighs are top notch.

>> No.5310965

>>5310618
Duke has the best arsenal. the Shrinker and Devastators alone trump anything Caleb and Lo Wang got. Pipe Bombs are more versatile than Dynamite and Sticky Bombs. Lo Wang has a few things over Duke, namely the Ripper Heart and Sword (best melee weapon) and Caleb's got the Voodoo Doll which is excellent. But other than that Duke's weapons are just better.

>> No.5310991

>>5310965
>Gimmick weapons trump everything
Sure.
>Pipe Bombs are more versatile
Objectively not, and lets not forget there's more than 1 type of dynamite in Blood, we have explode on impact, sensor, and the ones you trigger yourself

>> No.5310996

>>5310991
Gimmick doesn't mean bad, to deny the power of the Shrinker is just stupid. Pipe Bombs fulfill the same roll as dynamite without having to switch between three separate modes.

>> No.5310998

>>5310874
There's no way to differentiate between the types of text popups right now.

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>>5309525
>the cacaodemon as the boss
every time

>> No.5311046

>>5310834
Kek

>> No.5311052

>>5310996
Is there a point to the freeze gun? I never found a good reason to use it over other weapons.

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>>5309553
I kind of like Lo Wang becuase of how silly he is, maybe I have no taste, but it is still the weakest game of the build trilogy for sure.
Can't stop quoting the "ancient Chinese secret" line every time I find a secret in a game

>> No.5311094

>>5311052
It's strong, has a fast fire rate, and destroys bodies.

>> No.5311098
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>>5311058
Female warriors make me hard.

HEEYAH

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>>5311052
I like it because it's super fun to freeze 2-3 enemies in a row and then switch to the pistol to shatter all three in a row using a bullet each. otherwise:

Make it bounce on walls to hit Battlelords or annoying enemy placement without getting in their line of sight

It's pretty effective against Newbeasts

Use it on Damn I'm Good to get rid of corpses and avoid respawning

Use it in Dukematch so the shattered corpse spawns an Atomic Health

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>>5311101
Why is freezing people in deathmatch so much fun?

>> No.5311123

>>5311105
haha that's amazing, I wish we could do that in Duke

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>>5311123
Right. Hexen has some of my favorite ice mechanics in vidya.

>freezing actually kills the target, they don't thaw out
>frozen corpse can be used as a shield to block enemy projectiles
>frozen enemies can be pushed around and even used as platforms
>shattering something doesn't sound like glass breaking
>ice chunks remain on the floor and slowly melt

>> No.5311149

I can agree on the sentiment that episode 3 of Blood, besides some sparks, was the weakest.
On another note I Really enjoyed Cryptic Passage which had some nice geometry and designs.

>> No.5311158

>>5311132
Fun fact: assault troopers and ettin share the same ambient growl sound effect.

>> No.5311189

>>5311149
I thought Plasma Pak was the biggest disappointment for me. Instead of the Tesla cultists they really should have introduced something equivalent to the imps in Doom that could lob something that was long range but dodgeable as a primary attack to make encounters more interesting. The pods don't fit in imo and are buggy (crash the game easily). Beasts are bullet sponges with a cheap AOE attack. I thought several of the map settings were dull, too. Some of the weapon updates were cool but the voodoo alt fire is useless now.

>> No.5311230

>>5311189
Guess I'm the only one around here that likes the Plasma Pak.

>> No.5311231

>>5311149
I agree about ep 3. the first two levels feel slow as fuck, and the weapons/ammo feel to sparse. most of the remaining levels just look boring. this being said, Sick Ward and Monster Bait were pretty fun. the catacombs would be fun if they actually looked like the paris catacombs.

overall I'm not a huge fan of cryptic passage. the steamboat provides a great stage for a horror themed mission (and I found it pretty spooky when I first played it), but sadly the cramped environment seems to fuck with the enemy pathfinding in some places. the rest of the levels just seem a bit all over the place. with the exception of the library, they tend not to stay consistent with their own themes.

>>5311189
personally I enjoyed the plasma pak levels a lot. they're generally very open ended, and there's usually many ways you can approach every given situation. in Forbidden Rituals, for example, you can enter the main temple in at least three different ways.

>> No.5311247

>>5311230
Plasma Pak is fine, it's just that Cryptic Passage is better.

>> No.5311258

>>5311231
That's what I meant by settings. The layout and placement is fine but the environments themselves didn't feel very creative. When the original had haunted mansions and trains and stuff I feel like a shipping yard and generic temple with gray stone everywhere was a letdown.

>> No.5311270

>>5310842
Been playing a few levels now and I see what you mean when it comes to the "cinematic" and linearity.
The presentation is top tier though, but it is definitely going for a more tailored experience than the base game, at least so far.
I do really like it so far, though.

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Share your best blood reaction pics and nobody will get hurt bonus points if i don't have them already

>> No.5311275

>>5311258
the setting in They Are Here felt very fresh, though. that level was also very open ended.

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>>5311272
All I have.

>> No.5311285

Cryptic Passage has subpar gameplay though. Enemy placement is never great and supplies ratio is off the charts.

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>>5311272

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>>5311279
Saved, thank you

>> No.5311294

>>5310538
I tried it a couple times and the framerate was weird and there were rendering errors (like seeing the sky in the floor) in the vanilla maps. Seems pretty shitty / unfinished in general.

>> No.5311305

>>5311275
I like that and the first level, but Public Storage didn't interest me (although I like all the open areas), then Aqueducts seriously annoyed me. After that there's The Ruined Temple and Forbidden Rituals which I think look really similar. Episode 1 has 2 temple-ish levels back-to-back and I didn't like that setup, either.

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>>5311305
Public Storage and Aqueducts are too of my fav map in the entire game.

The theme in Public Storage may be as unoriginal as possible, but layout and gameplay is just stellar; and there are so many ways to go through the map and yet it's always great.

I admit the swimming cultists can be a pain in Aqueducts, but that's where you gotta be smart and take them out one of by one with stealth. There is a lot of tension involved not to fuck up and I think it's cool.

I love Welcome To Your Life as well. Again, plenty of ways to go through the map and it's always fun, it really encourages trying to be smart and take enemies from behind etc
and that's without mentionning sequence breaking at the start of the map, using a dynamite jump to access the rooftop directly.

Again, CP's boring gameplay doesn't cut it for me despite the maps having some cool themes and sometimes layouts too.
It's like they really did not "get" Blood's gameplay, enemy choice, use and placement feels like they treated Blood like a Duke usermap. The over abundance of supplies also comforts me in the idea the devs sucked at the game, and therefore did not "get" it.

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>>5311272

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Post overpowered enemies

>> No.5311416

>>5311189
I dig the Tesla cultist - the color coding of the same enemy is kinda nice.
You were looking for something more innovative but there's a big chance to fuck things up, so they went, like many, for the more secure path.
The pods were a risky addition but the fire pod was cool. I like that they added a kind of enviromental danger. The beasts were too hard but good to see the alpha stuff finally become part of the game.

>> No.5311418

>>5311331
What'd you think of Ruined Temple? I personally really liked it.

>> No.5311427

>>5311331
You've echoed more or less how I felt playing the two expansions for the first time a couple of days ago. To me Plasma Pak felt like an extension of the original game, those mechanics taken further, a tougher challenge. It was also neat seeing new enemy types.
Cryptic Passage has really nice level-to-level consistency, but overall I was not as engaged by it.

>> No.5311429
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>>5311393
>ruins your no damage run

>> No.5311447
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5311447

>>5311393

>> No.5311490

>>5311447
>*hits use key*
heh, nothing personell kid

>> No.5311576

>>5311490
At least on duke you could spam the kick button and so the face-huggers can't come up to your face, meanwhile these faggots hands are a pain in the ass... luckily you'll never come short in dynamites

>> No.5311690
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5311690

This moment put the biggest smile on my face.

>> No.5311823
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5311823

*fools you into thinking you can hit their hitbox with the pitchfork*

>> No.5311838

People who were defending soft locking in the last thread are retards. Levels that specifically require you to blow up a wall with your own ammo to progress are amateurish shit.

>> No.5311901

>>5309305
Get PowerslaveEX
It's based off the PS1 version and you can play it on PC

>> No.5311927

>>5311838
That's quite a blanket statement. Are you referring to something specific? Don't you need your own ammo to blow up the lunar reactor in Duke3D or open the doors in the last level of the 4th Blood campaign? Not sure if you can crowbar the Half Life Nihilanth to death.

>> No.5311932

>>5310957
But Duke is 100% European phenotype.

>> No.5311947

>>5311927
In Half-Life, the hivehand has infinite ammo. Try again.

>> No.5311962

>>5311947
That doesn't nullify the other examples. I don't think you can even get close to a Duke3D boss without getting auto-crushed, so booting is out.

>> No.5311968

>>5311947
I want to see someone beat the Icon of Sin with pistol only

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5312047

>>5311932
>le 100% European phenotype faec

>> No.5312137

>>5311962
Fuck off, I'm going to try to beat a Duke boss with the foot just to prove you wrong. And is is possible to beat the last boss of Half-Life with the crowbar, by the way.

>> No.5312146
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5312146

Caleb having a fiery drink, ignore baby hand for now

>> No.5312153

>>5311947
You can't hivehind yellow crystals though.

>> No.5312179

>>5312137
Not possible. The bosses do 1000(or even more) damage on contact(manual says they step on you), so you can't use melee.

>> No.5313123
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>>5309305
>From my very limited understanding, the PS1 version is much superior to the PC release.

It's a different game. The console and PC version are a different game sharing the same assets.

The PC version was made first but released second. It's a "Doom-like" in Build, if not with great gameplay, at least with great level design and atmosphere.
If you play it make sure you don't download the beta version of the game widely spread on warez sites and which has been plaguing the game since release. The date on the .exe should say Dec 04 1996 (Powerslave) or Mar 19 1997 (Exhumed). I wouldn't trust a version with a more recent date either, and you should have music.

Saturn version was released first. it uses a full 3D engine and has some adventure elements akin to Metroid. Pretty impressive game considering it was for the most part developped at the same time as Quake.

PS1 version was released last but that doesn't mean it's the best version if you ask me. It's a port of the Saturn version, but by a different programmer. Gunplay feels a lot less satisfying and they got rid of bomb jumping. It's still worth playing because 2-3 levels are completely different.
EX version is a recreation of the PS1 version that loses even more in the translation. it was also never finished and has a lot more glitches. Only people who have no idea what they're talking about and who jumped on the hype wagon and discovered the game through EX would recommend it.

tl;dr play DOS version if you're able to find it and set up DOSbox. Also play the Saturn version, it also works 100% accurately on emulators, even yabause. Only then if you care enough play the PS1 version for its differences.

>> No.5313157
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5313157

>>5311272

here u go pal

>> No.5313196

>>5313123
Great response. Thanks, anon.

>> No.5313212

>>5312146
Pretty sick, but you forced me to only focus on the baby hand.

>> No.5313341
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5313341

Somebody needs to make a couple of build engine themed boomers

>> No.5313351

>>5313341
>Somebody needs to
translation: I'm a lazy cunt

>> No.5313358

>>5313351
I'm not creative or talented enough to do it.

>> No.5313360

>>5313358
I'll give it a shot after work

>> No.5313364

>>5313360
Bless.
If I could make a request, I'd say make a Caleb one, but Duke is more universal and maybe funnier, I'd be surprised if ones of Duke don't exist though.

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5313402

>>5313341

>> No.5313449

>>5313402
health potion is pretty tame for Duke, shouldn't it bel like a bottle of steroids?

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>>5313449
I fixed it

>> No.5313459
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>>5313402
I fixed it

>> No.5313515

>>5311416
>the color coding of the same enemy is kinda nice
That's one of the things I hate the most about SW and Blood.

>> No.5313516

>>5313515
Ooh Boo Hoo

>> No.5313528
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5313528

>>5313402
>>5313453
>>5313459
Close but no cigar.

>> No.5313529

>>5313516
It's boring and lazy. There doesn't need to be like 4+ versions of ninjas and cultists.

>> No.5313530

>>5313528
Thats great.

>> No.5313537

>>5313529
Not yours do decide. Go be assblasted somewhere else.

>> No.5313539

>>5313537
What's your problem, man?

>> No.5313546

>>5313539
What's yours? Whining doesn't change anything.

>> No.5313552

>>5313546
I was expressing that color swapped enemies is boring and it would've been better for either a new enemy to take their place or at least give visual changes to the upgraded enemies, besides a simple color swap. You just got all offended for some reason.

>> No.5313556

>>5313546
you can like a game but also critique it.
if he doesn't like color coded enemies then that's perfectly valid, desu the game did go a little far with it, there's like 5 different cultists

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5313581

>>5313552
>>5313556
You both sound like whiny pussies.

>> No.5313605

>>5313529
Alt PAL enemies is an easy way to bring variety into gameplay.

The only thing about it that's lazy is when weapons you see on the sprites do not match the projectiles that's coming out.
This is especially bad with SW's ninjas, which carry SMGs, and which fire rockets and grenades literaly from their belly, with little way to see it come.

Editing all the frames of an enemy, several times, for the weapon to match is a lot of work though, especially in the case of SW's Ninja which have a bazillion frames as they can literaly do almost anything that Lo Wang can (crouch, climb ladders, jump, etc). Besides they only fire other types of projectiles once in a while

>> No.5313798

BloodGDX v0.798 (21.01.2019)
1. RX 10 (kChannelTriggerTeam) fixed
2. Voodoo doll no affect on teammates if friendlyfire is disabled
3. Jumping on player's head damage fix
4. Fix crashes in some cases when playing demo
5. Better precache
6. Color correction save fix
7. XSector / XWall loadMap busy fix
8. Flags count towards the frag limit.
9. If frag limit is reached level will end in 2sec
10. Multiplayer taunts (Shift+Numbers, Alt+Numbers)
11. Stop player jump sound fix
12. Multiplayer end level timeout fix
13. Borderless mode will enable if windowed desktop resolution is choosed
14. Clipboard and numpad keys for typying IP address
15. Start multiplayer with changed team fix

https://m210.duke4.net/index.php/downloads/download/8-java/50-bloodgdx

>> No.5313837

>>5313798
I think this latest update broke slope tilting, every time I load a save it seems to reset itself to "on" even though it doesn't say so in the settings, the camera does tilt as you go up/down.

>> No.5313847

>>5311968
I can do you one better. Some crazy mofo did it "pacifist". In other words leading all the enemies to kill themselves until there are only revenants left. Then timing the revenant attacks just right to get launched backward off the platform and damage the romero head triggering the end of the level. It's a thing to behold.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OpmPLrpGSos

>> No.5313910

>>5313847
lol wow. and in less than 10 min

>> No.5314162

>>5310834
lmao

>> No.5314231

>>5311690
lol I think that's only in the newer version

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So it's a BloodGDX thing that the light is blindingly white and bright on E2M8, right?

>> No.5314251
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So it's a BloodGDX thing that the light is blindingly white and bright on Death Wish E2M8, right?

>> No.5314253

>>5314251
also I almost fucking shat myself at that jumpscare.

>> No.5314351
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5314351

>>5314251
yeah, gdx doesn't show palette 1 (white) correctly.
In DOSBox it looks fine.

>> No.5314376

>>5309376
>Throw dynamite at cunt

>> No.5314419

Am I pleb for liking Blood more than Doom?

>> No.5314434
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5314434

oh, cutscene sound now works in GDX? neat.
>>5314253
Oh yeah, I remember that one.. made me fall off the tower

>> No.5314473

>>5313605
>The only thing about it that's lazy is when weapons you see on the sprites do not match the projectiles that's coming out
This will be a thing of the past when my IK-driven multi-sprite-segment-character system finally works in Unity. All you have to do for characters to properly represent their weapon is change the held_weapon_sprite to the appropriate version. Handling of two handed firearms is a bit wonky atm, with sprite priority all over the place and sometimes my IK implementation spazzes out and turns the character into a noodly mess, but I'll keep working on it. The system only works with bipedal characters atm, but multipeds are also planed.

>> No.5314648
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5314648

>tfw using Protozoid Slimers to insta-kill enemies, including Protector Drones

>> No.5314658

>>5314419
no

like what you want to like, and ignore any turbofags trying to start game vs game arguments 20+ years later

>> No.5314712

>>5313529
Not to mention that if a sector uses palette swapped lighting, the enemies will be re palette swapped and you won't be able to tell which they are at a glance.

>> No.5314743

>>5314712
>ITT brainlets not understanding memory limitations or deadline pressure
You retards draw the extra versions then, with correct color and of course the correct guns. Easy to say if you are not on a deadline.

>> No.5314751

>>5314743
Quit being such a rabid fanboy.

>> No.5314752

>>5314712
A condition that happens in less than 5% of your total playtime.

Wow. Please clap.

>> No.5314772

>>5314751
Quit being such a cancerous retard. Like holy shit you DENSE MOTHERFUCKER why I'm even wasting my time with fuckheads like you when I could do better things like sorting my socks.

>> No.5314959

>>5314752
>>5314743
Why be so defensive? I love the game, but it has imperfections, and there's nothing wrong or inherently crybaby about pointing them out.

>> No.5315674
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5315674

Why did people ever think smudged pixels (Bilinear/Trilinear filtering) looked good? And how are there people still to this day that play with these on in retro games?

Was it just that smoothness was impressive back then?

>> No.5315682

>>5315674
please don't bring this kind of topic into this thread, /vr/ has enough threads about those

>> No.5316227
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5316227

Which first level is the best one?

>> No.5316239

>>5316227
Duke hands down. It's a great tutorial and a great level at the same time, teaching and showcasing everything you can expect in the game. Let's also not forget that it was the first of "the main 3" and that first level alone wrote Build to history and made everyone's jaw drop; not Tekwar or Witchaven which were released first.

The same can't be said about Blood's, it's more like an easy simple map to begin the game slow.

SW's intro does teach the player what to expect in the game though, the first scene says it all. Enemies jumping in before you can even get your bearings or figure out the controls to fuck you up, yep that's Shadow Warrior alright.
Otherwise the level is really cool but part of its layout is too convoluted in a confusing way

>> No.5316241

>>5316239
while I love Blood's first level, I can't deny that Duke's is way more iconic.

>> No.5316258

>>5316227
>level 1
Duke > SW > Blood
>level 2
Duke > Blood > SW
>level 3
Blood > SW > Duke
>level 4
SW > Blood > Duke

>> No.5316304

>>5316258
Death row is amazing, don't let your childhood traumas of getting lost derail the common sense. The map is much better designed, more adventurous than Phantom Express and even the otherwise tasty Master Leep Temple.

As for Toxic Dump, it's a great map too, but Dark Carnival and Dark Woods caught up respectably. Too bad both games fell off the cliff after that, while Duke continued to excell in the amazing Abyss.

Blood returned to form in some episode 2 levels, but Duke never looked back by this time, despite the weaker outings by Levelord.

>> No.5316312

>>5316304
I like all of the levels in that post, I just overall enjoyed Phantom Express / Leep's Temple more than Death Row. Phantom Express had that short, sweet action feel that I appreciate every now and then, like Dead Simple in Doom 2, and Leep's Temple was the opposite, being a long, sprawling adventure of a map though no shortage of action.

>> No.5316469
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Didn't notice this the first time I played World Tour but this little foosball table uses the old blue colored Assault Trooper.

>> No.5316646
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5316646

>>5311272
do you have a mega or something to download all of them?

>> No.5316670
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5316670

>>5316469
That's just their default palette when you set them in the edtior, but the code which auto sets its palette only works when it's an actual enemy actor. So, probably an oversight.

Honestly this table is shit. 1996 user-map tier.

>> No.5316678

>>5316670
>seething

>> No.5316752

>>5316670
>Honestly this table is shit. 1996 user-map tier
Oh piss off.

>> No.5316772

>>5316469
I was very disappointed the foosball table wasn't actually functional. Like, the pool tables set a precedent with this stuff, cmon guys!

>> No.5317102
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5317102

Did Duke really deserve this?

>> No.5317131

>>5317102
This must've been the Duke that was absent in the future during Land of the Babes.

>> No.5317380

>>5317102
I mean Duke has has dead Luke Skywalker, Indiana Jones, Doom Marine and Snake Plissken so... yes?

>> No.5317476
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5317476

>>5309312
2>1>5>4>3
3 and 4 both start strong and then shit the bed almost immediately. Combine the two and you can salvage a good episode from it.

E3M1- Ghost Town
E3M2- The Siege
E3M3- Sick Ward
E3M4- Butchery Loves Company
E3M5- Catacombs
E3M6- Fire and Brimstone
E3M6- Hall of the Epiphany
E3M7- Mall of the Dead (Secret level)

Fixed the last half of your game bro.
Catacombs is a bit of a borderline case but the bit with the dozens of zombies coming out of the ground is good fun and the episode is too short without it. Ganglion Depths is the biggest 'could have been' level in Blood. Really nice atmosphere, really feels like the penultimate level, but the actual gameplay is frustrating and annoying. Half a day in mapmaker and it could be fantastic. And then it's not even the penultimate level anyway lol

>> No.5317493
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5317493

>>5317476
conversely, imagine the pain of playing through the NEGA-EPISODE

E3M1- Raw Sewage
E3M2- Breeding Grounds
E3M3- Charnel House
E3M4- Crystal Lake
E3M5- Spare Parts
E3M6- Monster Bait
E3M7- Ganglion Depths
E3M8- Lair of Shial
E3M9- the entirety of Cryptic Passage (secret level)

>> No.5317518

>>5317493
But Cryptic Passage is good.

>> No.5317585

>>5317518
I like the settings they built out for CP a lot better than Post Mortem, but I think the gameplay balance is way off.

>> No.5317595

>>5317585
I agree. It's more ambitious but achieves less. Feels a lot like the late-90s mods for Doom and Duke Nukem when people would try and recreate their school/library etc in blocky 2.5d. Gameplay is wonky as hell and the new sprites they added are terrible, they look like clipart lol

>> No.5317619

>>5317595
I do like that Cryptic added a simple, starry night sky as one of the parallax texture sets, a questionable omission from the base game.

>>5317476
>XtraKrispy.png
The Siege on steroids

>> No.5317691

>>5311447
shit still gives me the creeps when i see them run up

>> No.5317696

>>5314648
wait, drones?

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>>5317696
Yep.

>> No.5317723

>>5317706
oh, i was thinking of the flying fucks

>> No.5317740

>>5317723
They're called Drones, yeah, but the aliens are called Protector Drones.

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Ion Maiden got an update with a new level, alt. fire modes, and the Ion Crossbow.

>> No.5317774

>>5317476
What map is this? Doesnt look like something from the original game

>> No.5317776

>>5317774
E3M5: Duck and Cover from Death Wish. Like >>5317619 says, it's The Siege on steroids. Definitely check out Death Wish if you haven't already, equals and often surpasses the original game in quality. Pretty easy to get running these days too

>> No.5317810

>>5317759
I liked everything in this update. I just wish they had released a new episode instead of just one level.
Also I wish this game had mighty foot or some other kind of quick melee option. Weapon switching takes too long and grabbing the stun baton to deal with the small headcrabs totally disrupts the flow of the game for me.

>> No.5317813

>>5317810
I always wondered why other Build games didn't follow through with Duke's mighty foot mechanic.

>> No.5317836

>>5317813
Yes. It wouldn't have fit in Blood, since combat in Blood is kind of its own thing. But SW and Ion Maiden would be a lot better games if you could quickly strike with your melee weapon. It would fit right in with the frenetic combat.

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5317843

>>5317759
>Shotgun's grenades sound like Quake 1 grenades when they bounce around

>> No.5317857

>>5317776
Ah, cool. I started Death Wish, only in episode 2 now.

>> No.5317906

Are there any Duke usermaps that are like Babe Land except done right?

>> No.5318043

>>5317476
>Babe Land
Hey, I'm on this level right now in DW.

>> No.5318047

Anybody here with a duke4.net account? Can somebody let m10 know that slope tilting was broken in the latest update of BloodGDX?

>> No.5318068

>>5316469
This looks incredibly cheap in a commercial release. Broussard wouldn't have greenlighted this, instead he would have asked for extra coding for the table (like the pool).

>> No.5318102

>>5316678
>>5316752

See what I mean?

>>5316772
>>5318068

>> No.5318247
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>>5310834
very good

>> No.5318251

>>5311272
>anon wants to suck caleb's dick
please share with the rest of the class

>> No.5318256

>new Ion Maiden level is out

>> No.5318269

>>5310834
Tup iyeiy

>> No.5318321

So, what is considered the next go to build game after the big three?
Powerslave? Rides Again? Tekwar? Zero Hour?

>> No.5318367

>>5318321
Redneck Rampage, then Rides Again, Powerslave, Tekwar. In that order. Once Ion Maiden comes out it will probably be first in that list.

>> No.5318438

>>5311272
You share that folder right now!

>> No.5318439

>>5318367
Rides Again considered worse than RR?
I'm surprised, I thought that RA had better levels and new shit that made game better.

>> No.5318443

>>5318439
Rides Again is better imo, but you asked which is generally considered the next "go to" games, and that's generally how it goes.
RA is so underrated there have even been idiots itt calling it "not even an expansion pack".

>> No.5318449

>>5317759
>Is that a hamster?
I like how the level design is more compact than the "bonus" level. It's way more open and a joy to explore and the gunplay has improved. I can't remember a modern FPS with a combat as satisfactory as IM. Enemy variety is slighty better (but I think it's still missing something).
They fucked up the early access, but I tink we'll have a great FPS. Right now I just want to go to home and play IM.

>> No.5318746

>>5318321
Powerslave is pretty gud IMO. I really love the egyptian theme, it has some really good maps and nice challenging combat. And its a pretty different game from the big three: most maps are absolutely huge, it has some nice platforming challenges and a mana system.
I wish this game had a sourceport, tho.

>> No.5318780
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>>5318449
>Enemy variety is slighty better (but I think it's still missing something)
The update added 2 new enemies and there's already at least 4 more to be added as seen in various screenshots. I'm more worried about the weapons at this point. The Ion Bow feels, I don't know, weak? And it doesn't do anything interesting. I'm really hoping for some more crazy, unorthodox weaponry like the Shrinker/Expander, Guardian Head, Voodoo Doll, etc.

>> No.5318819

>>5317102
It's friendly banter m8

>> No.5318832

>>5317706
These things can go fuck themselves.

>> No.5318859

Finished Death Wish.
I really liked it, really consistently good throughout. I think it did as good as it could with the "story" it had throughout, but it got a little old seeing the death character constantly mess with you by turning into some enemy when you approached it.
Some fantastic levels though, but maybe a little too concerned at times with emulating more modern games by being cinematic and more linear.

>> No.5318887

>>5318449
>They fucked up the early access, but I tink we'll have a great FPS

On the contrary. The early access looked a lot more promising than this new level. Confusing layout, annoying fights in cramped corridors, random enemy placement, movement restriction by clusterfuck details, but above all: what is this house theme? Isn't this game supposed to be placed in a futuristic, cyberpunk Washington? Early access looked like futuristic, while this level is more we used to see in games like Redneck Rampage. If this is the direction, than Ion Maiden will be a bomb.

>> No.5318905

>>5318887
It's the villain's mansion and the guy is old so he probably enjoys a more traditional style home. Personally I think the new level is better than any of the EA levels. I never got lost, the was plenty of enemies to fight, areas to explore, and a nice outdoor area too.

>> No.5318931

>>5318068
>>5318102
Fuck you both.

>> No.5318937

I played the Ion Maiden update. Here are some thoughts.
-Performance is now way better
-Difficultly seems higher now
-The SMG used to be underpowered, but now it's super strong. Playing the first level again it's much harder to find ammo for
-The crossbow is pretty interesting, with multiple tiers of firepower when charged
-The magnum aimed fire is cool and has some use
-The grenade launcher should be fun, but it feels way more wonky compared to Quake or Shadow Warrior. Also it being a single weapon i'm not sure how to feel
-The infinite bomb power up is cool. I hope there are some more power ups or items in the final
-The new level shown is slightly smaller, but has a more tight and refined feel, like the old games
-Bowling bombs are still a bit finicky sometimes

Over all, very promising stuff. Needless to say, the complexity is still there.

>> No.5318938

>>5318859
I liked some of the linear parts if only for variety. If they were all like that Shadehaven level in episode 3 I think it would have been a bit much, especially since a bunch of them make you find all 6 (or 7!) keys. I got lost in a lot of the base game's maps because so many were concerned with weaving in on themselves (although I love the Overlook level). What were your favorite DW maps?

>> No.5318947

>>5317380
>Dead Indiana Jones, Luke Skywalker and Doomguy in Duke Nukem 3D.
WHERE?

>> No.5318953
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>>5318947
>Indiana Jones
Hotel Hell
>Luke Skywalker
Lunar Reactor
>Doomguy
Death Row

>> No.5318957
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>>5318947
Read the damn wiki

>> No.5318963

>>5318887
I mean they fucked up because they basically sold a demo. It was a pre-order with a bonus. IM was almost 1 year on early access and it had almost 0 new content

>> No.5318998

>>5318887
>If this is the direction, than Ion Maiden will be a bomb.
Lol, that's just delusionally cynical. It's going to bomb if it has some maps with different themes? People are interested in the game primarily because of the level design and gameplay, not the setting.

>> No.5319046

>>5310996
>without having to switch between three separate modes.
Except you can bind remote mines and prox mines to their own keys you pleb. With my esdf control scheme I have remote mines bound directly to T, normal dynamite to R. even still pipe bombs aren't even better than the normal dynamite. dynamite is way more powerful and you can control their positioning much better and for much longer ranges. you're just trash at using it. it's the norm to switch to dynamite in Blood frequently. in Duke 99% of the time I'm using pipe bombs it's just to tediously blow up bodies in damn I'm good difficulty, otherwise it's just rare uses to drop them out of vents etc to enemies directly below me in awkward places.

>> No.5319085

>>5319046
I think you need to work on your reading comprehension. He said "Pipe Bombs fulfill the same roll as dynamite without having to switch between three separate modes,' and you proceed to explain how dynamite needs to have different hotkeys to switch between them in some strange attempt to count his point while instead proving his point.

>> No.5319086

>>5309312
E1 = E5 > E2 > E4 > E3
They're all solid though. E5 is by far the best for gameplay. I think people overlook E5 because they're more concerned with aesthetics/atmosphere, while E5 was all about gameplay. A great example of this is a level like 'Public Storage': it's fucking boring aesthetically (it's a warehouse yawn) but the actual gameplay and inter-connectivity/layout are all fucking fantastic, to the extent that it's probably my favourite level in the game along with Forbidden Rituals and Forgotten Catacombs (all in E5). Every level in this episode is great, excluding The Ruined Temple because it's just plain lazy which feels very unfinished (it's basically an open playground), but even The Ruined Temple I enjoy playing through a lot.

I haven't played Cryptic Passage in a really long time but I never liked it as much as the original's episodes or Plasma Pak. Still really good though.

>> No.5319091

>>5319085
But they don't fulfill the same role. You can't throw pipe bombs further away or control their arc as well and nor as they nearly as powerful. They don't explode on contact either like normal dynamite does which is extremely beneficial, nor do they have proximity detection, nor can you leave them on a timer like secondary use of normal dynamite, etc.

>> No.5319096

>>5319085
I'm pretty sure when he said "without having to switch between modes" he thought cycling through the dynamite modes was necessary when it isn't, hence my post. Regardless you're "both" still wrong as explained.

>> No.5319103

>>5319091
>>5319096
Pipe Bombs do all of that with the player's ability to control when to blow it up on command without having to choose which version to first equip.

>> No.5319109

>>5318998
Level design is utter shit in this particular map, so one point less.

>> No.5319112

>>5319109
No it fucking isn't, are you insane?

>> No.5319118

>>5319103
well you're clearly retarded but thankfully I don't waste my time arguing with 4chan incels anymore

>> No.5319123

>>5319118
Yeah, whatever. You just get really fucking mad for no good reason and just call everybody wrong. You're exactly why Blood fans get a bad rap.

>> No.5319163

>>5319112
Grow some taste anon.

>> No.5319246

I'd like to make a suggest for Ion Maiden. Please make it so that switching weapons is an automatic reload, because reloading is tedious and this would encourage more mixed weapon usage. In "Blood" this feature is already present for the double barrel shotgun, and it's extremely useful even if it's incredibly minor.

>> No.5319272

>>5318746
I'm playing it through right now and it's fairly fun.
The only moment I didn't like so far is when you are supposed to navigate a labyrinth with magma floor while using invincibility item.

>> No.5319283
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5319283

How good is Shadow Warrior? Does it hold up to the greatness of Blood and Duke Nukem?
Also is Redux a good version of the game to play?

>> No.5319294

>>5319283
Morons here will say it sucks because the levels aren't cinematic enough after episode 1, but it is a way better and more competent base game than Duke in terms of weapons, enemies, and graphics.

>> No.5319296

>>5319283
>How good is Shadow Warrior?
Pretty good.
>Does it hold up to the greatness of Blood and Duke Nukem?
It's a different kind of game compared to both, so that's would be on whether you'll like what it offers.
>Also is Redux a good version of the game to play?
Can you switch to software rendering in Redux? The sky is probably glitched in Polymost.

>> No.5319297

>>5319283
It's up there with Duke and Blood, better than each in some ways and worse in others. It's an absolute must play in any case.

>> No.5319301

>>5319294
Or maybe SW episode 2 isn't THAT good.
I mean, both Twin Dragon and Wanton Destruction are better.

>> No.5319304

>>5319296
I'm not particularly a fan of the style, the samurai ninja shit, and the tasteless VA. But it still has that build engine look to it that I find appealing
>sky glitched
how? like it is in eduke32 and bloodgdx? cause I'm perfectly fine with that.

>> No.5319306

>>5319297
How are the weapons in it? Also are the levels memorable?

>> No.5319331

>>5319306
Most of the weapons are pretty cool and viable but it has a few stinkers, namely the shurikens and sticky bombs. It has some unique/interesting shit like the Railgun, beating out Quake 2 as the first, and the Guardian Head is really cool. SW also has the best melee weapon. Then it has some gloriously powerful stuff like the Grenade Launcher.

I think SW has a lot of memorable levels, namely the wilderness, temple, and urban levels, like Seppuku Station, Master Leep's Temple, Dark Woods of the Serpent, Raider of the Lost Wang, or Bath House. Personally I'm not a fan of the industrial levels (factories, warehouses, shit like that, including Duke and Blood industrial levels, and SW has its fair share of those.

>> No.5319345

>>5319331
>SW also has the best melee weapon
You mean the fists, right?

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>>5319331
The expansions have some really cool levels too.

Wanton Destruction
>Chinatown
>Monastery
>Restaurant
>Bullet Train
I have to mention Airplane and Skyscraper. Both are awesome levels in concept but the gameplay leaves a lot to be desired in my opinion. Airplane's issue is that the enemies can see you through solid curtains and just fire away at you while you're blind. Other than that it's a cool level.

Twin Dragon
>Wang's Home
>Crazy Train
>Fishing Village
>The Garden
>Prison Camp

>> No.5319368

Why does the vertical mouse look feel so off in eduke32? I don't have this problem at all with BloodGDX, everything feels smooth and even as I move and look around. But in eduke the sensitivity moving left to right is much higher than up and down, despite the settings on this being their default 1:1.

>> No.5319380

>>5319331
>>5319353
I'll look into buying it soon, I feel fucking dumb for not getting into this build engine mood a little earlier so I could snag all the games during the steam sale.
also I hope my friends don't think I'm a sexist/racist kekistanian when they see me buying this.

>> No.5319403

>>5319086
Aqueducts blows. Monster Bait-tier for confusing frustrating layout

>> No.5319409

>>5319380
If they do, get better friends.
Also, Shadow Warrior is free. So are its expansions. The only thing you get for money is a port, which most likely has it's source code up somewhere.

>> No.5319438

>>5319409
Yeah I know, but I really don't wanna play the dosbox version. I want proper widescreen support and mouse aim and all that.

>> No.5319463

>>5319438
There are JFSW and SWP.

>> No.5319469

>>5319463
How do they fare in quality? I know nothing about them? How well do they function compared to say eDuke or even a BloodGDX?

Also which one of those do I go for?

>> No.5319480

>>5319463
to be fair I can just pirate the redux release. But I tried that with the 20th Anniversary Edition for Duke and it was the 1.0 release which apparently has a shitton of issues they patched in later versions.

>> No.5319485

>>5318780
Did you try the alt fire?

>> No.5319504

>>5319469
SWP is slightly better.
Both are about as good as Redux.

>> No.5319531

>>5319504
I pirated redux to test it out, and it’s pretty disappointing how none of the settings have numbers applied to them, and the lack of ui options, either full or the minimalist one with no scaling and apparently not made to fit widescreens. Also the secrets and enemy count is way too large.

>> No.5319613

>>5319469
I tried SWP and got constant save game corruptions, and a bunch of other bugs. I even used the Hendricks version that allegedly fixed that issue.

>> No.5319615
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How can something so perfect exist in our timeline?

>> No.5319624

>>5319615
>that grating soundtrack
>perfect

>> No.5319627

>>5319624
I'll turn you into bait.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uo6LJ3EheA4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=juPYX_Luzo4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9GJuIieS7Mc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jjZ6jQ7ssYU

>> No.5319629

>>5319624
u wot? Caribbean's music is better than 99% of the base soundtrack.

>> No.5319631

>>5319629
Bitch, please.

>> No.5319634

>>5319631
Stalker, Aliens, Say Your Prayers, Plasma, and Gotham are the only ones on par with Caribbean.

>> No.5319636

>>5319634
And Desert Maze.

>> No.5319640

>>5319634
Bitch, pleeeeeeease.

>> No.5319649

>>5319613
Huh.
I used SWP for a while back when Proasm was the one maintaining it and never had those issues.

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>>5317759
Love Ion Maiden, shit feels so visceral when it comes to the combat. Although as another anon mentioned, it didn't really feel like an Early Access game, but more like a pre order for when the whole thing releases and you get two levels to play while you wait. Regardless I have high hopes for Ion Maiden.

>"Dōmo arigatō, Mr. Roboto

>> No.5319843

>>5319819
>secret secret, I've got a secret!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=51ybp_YFo7I

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>>5309898
>not drinking BloodBeer

>> No.5320405

>>5319109
It's not shit, but isn't particularly great too. The level felt like a well designed usermap, not something you would expect in a pro game.

>> No.5320465

Just beat Redneck Rampage. The final boss was pretty meh but the arena with the minibosses and flying saucers was awesome. Anyways what should I play next, Suckin Grits or Rides Again? That is, which is better?

>> No.5320514

>>5320465
Rides Again is better but Route66 is really good too. Just play both, in order, R66 first.

>> No.5320516

>>5320405
Crisis in Columbia = Duke3D
Heskel's House of Horrors = Blood

>> No.5320520

>>5320465
Does redneck rampage actually have level design? Every video I’ve seen of it the maps just look like they’re open spaces you run around and shoot hicks in.

>> No.5320524

>>5320514
I think I'll do that. Played the first level of Rides Again and man the bikers are annoying as fuck, they just keep firing, even when you're not in their view. I sat and waited for 15 seconds for one to stop.
>>5320520
Of course it does, it's not an arena shooter or something.

>> No.5320532

>>5320405
Why do you think that and do you think the same thing about Crisis in Columbia?

>> No.5320554

>>5320532
not him, I liked the level but it doesn't feel that terribly interesting as a whole. I'm not gonna fault the devs because it was probably picked for PAX purely because it's a map that can standalone rather than the larger HUB style maps of the CiC bit.

it's just not very conceptually grand - I hope we'll see more larger areas in the final release like we saw in Duke and Blood rather than the ultra-compact SW-style maps.

>> No.5320576

Which of the build engine games do you guys think feel the best? They have their own distinct feel, even if it is a subtle difference.

>> No.5320579

>>5320576
Blood. The movement feels great, the weapons and explosion feel impactful.

>> No.5320624

>>5320576
For me, Duke is the best one. But I just feel so goddamn comfy playing Powerslave.

>> No.5320891

>>5320576
Duke, it feels the tightest. I really don't like the floaty feeling of Blood's movement and SW is somewhere in between.

>> No.5320902
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Anybody know what numbers this useless slider is supposed to represent? Why didn't they show a number?

>> No.5320967 [DELETED] 

>>5319246
I'm not a dev but I don't know about that. I get the idea that it can encourage weapon switching, but in games which did this, players would switch weapons instead of reloading to save time.
+ all the weapons in IM have reloading. In Blood it's just one weapon with fast reload.
I'm not sure it was even a feature but rather an oversight or a consequence of how the shotgun was made; that or simply because they had no reload key and manual reloading was not a standard yet.

I do think they should add

>> No.5320971

>>5319246
I'm not a dev but I don't know about that. I get the idea that it can encourage weapon switching, but in games which did this, players would switch weapons instead of reloading to save time.
+ all the weapons in IM have reloading. In Blood it's just one weapon with fast reload.
I'm not sure it was even a feature but rather an oversight or a consequence of how the shotgun was made; that or simply because they had no reload key and manual reloading was not a standard yet.

I do agree they should add things to encourage weapon switching, like certain enemies being weak or strong against certain type of attacks

>> No.5320973

>>5320891

Is Blood feeling floaty a doxbox thing? Because I really did not feel this playing GDX. I think it is by far the best feeling of the build games.

>> No.5320989

>>5320973
I recently played through Blood with GDX and it still felt floaty to me. It also feels like Caleb has less traction on the ground compared to Duke/Wang.

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Make some memes, lads.

>> No.5321008

>>5320973
It's not just floaty.
Civvie 11 described it perfectly as "not realistic movement, but action movie movement", the way you slide and dive after a landing, it works very well with being constantly on the move, jumping and ducking.

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>>5321005

>> No.5321010

>>5320973
When you walk, it's definitely noticeably floaty. Running's okay though.
>>5321008
Reminds me of System Shock 1's character physics in a way. Although in SS you can effectively disable all the wobbling by means of playing from the prone position any time you are not jumping.

>> No.5321021

>>5321008
How do you constantly move, jump and duck, when forkstarting on extra crispy?

>> No.5321024

>>5321010
Maybe it is, maybe I just got used to it. But like >>5321008 said, once you do it feels incredible.
I really never feel limited by the movement, maybe once or twice during a platforming challenge where you kind of run off the edge on accident. But I love the momentum Blood has behind its movement.

I think Duke feels good, I have a limited experience with Shadow Warrior but it is my least favorite of the three by far.

>> No.5321031

>>5321005
I can confirm, only by looking at that particular procedural texture on the hat, that the cutscenes were done in 3D Studio Max, probably R1 or 1.2.
Fuck my autism.


*the DOS predecessor is another possibility, but given the year Blood was released it's unlikely

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>>5321021
it says in the manual it was designed for co-op and not a single player peeking around every corner (while acknowledging people were going to do it anyway)

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>>5321150

>> No.5321584

>>5321372
why do they call it "Still kicking" in the manual when it is "Pink on the Inside" in game?

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>>5321584
there are several things that don't match, like calling the napalm launcher the incinerator.

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>>5321584
Probably same reason why some boxes of DN3D show stuff that aren't in the game.

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here's a bonus: a section to inform you that playing Blood like other FPSs means you'll get your ass kicked

>> No.5321669

>>5321584
>>5321631
>>5321634
Some of the stuff changed around during development, sometimes really quickly towards the end. In DN3Ds case a lot of the shots on the box are just mockups done for promotion.

>> No.5321672

>>5310834
Brilliant. Truly brilliant!

>> No.5321692

I'm starting to think more and more that Shadow Warrior Redux is a shit port. The awful mouse support, the fact that you can't load from a save after death, the options not actually giving you any useful information, no hud scaling whatsoever.

What is this shit? Why is it so bad. eDuke and even fucking BloodGDX are miles ahead of htis, and GDX is running on fucking java and doesn't have the source code.

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>>5316227
Blood is my overall favourite game and one of my favourite games of all time, but Hollywood Holocaust was just perfect the way it was presented. It blew my mind back then, DESPITE me having played Quake 1 before Duke 3D and already being used to superior graphics. It was as if one of the early Iron Maiden artworks which used to depict a dystopian future came to life (pic for reference, specifically Iron Maiden, Killers and Somewhere in Time) and I always got that vibe from it.
The fucking interactivity, the secrets, the humor, the music, the items, the weapons, the enemies shitting themselves. Everything.

>> No.5321708

>>5319086
Yep, E5M3 was awesome! I especially like warehouse themes though. Overall a pretty srong episode, worthy of this legendary game.

Cryptic passage, as another poster already pointed out, has new artwork that seems low quality and out of place. Nonetheless I kinda like the new stuff in the Opera map for example.

>> No.5321715

>>5321698
My first FPS was Duke3D, and when I tried to go back and play Doom 2 I couldn't get into it (even though I liked the theme). I remember really hating that you couldn't jump.

>> No.5321767

>>5320891
I love the floatiness, Caleb feels so agile. Playing Duke after playing Blood makes Duke's movement feel lame and boxed in in comparison. And then you play Redneck Rampage and Leonard's jump feels even worse.

>> No.5321781
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Anybody know what's up with the color discrepancy between the dosbox and GDX version of the game?
Talking less about the subtle difference to things like the ground, and more about the decals on the wall, which have gone from bronze t golden.

>> No.5321791

>>5321781
It's because of the renderer.

>> No.5321798

>>5321660
>Also, use cover to your advantage WHENEVER POSSIBLE

>> No.5321803

>>5321767
Redneck Rampage's movement is pretty precise. Off the top of my head, I'd put it right behind Duke's in terms of tightness.

>> No.5321805

>>5309451
>Lo Wang is absolutely tasteless
Hes silly as fuck. Fuck your bad vibes brah

>> No.5321853

>>5321791
m210 has said he's working on getting software mode into GDX, right? That'd be cool.

>> No.5321917
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Can anyone re-upload the all-in-one Powerslave pack? All links to it are down.
I mean the pack with the game, beta, dehacker and cd music.

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>>5321584
the fuck you on about? still kicking is very easy, pink on the inside is easy.

>> No.5321947

>>5321692
It is a very bad port unfortunately.

Is there a better source port to play SW? It runs awful for me on DOSBox.

>> No.5321969

>>5321943
Pink On The Inside is like Dukes and SWs hard difficulty

>> No.5321970

>>5319283
It would easily be my favourite BUILD game, but there's so much bullshit insta-kill explosions in this game, often environmental. It just ruins it. I don't know who thought that was a good idea.

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>>5309298
Just finished Duke Nukem 3D and I gotta say it's the comfiest 3D Realm game of the three.

>> No.5321984

>>5321969
No.

>> No.5321989

>>5321943
Yeah, I don't know what my brain was doing there. It was mixing up Let's Rock and Still Kicking for some reason.

>> No.5321993

>>5321969
I'm not comparing game difficulties, I'm just saying the manual got it right. Blood's very easy mode is still kicking, so obviously that's the one for beginners, not pink on the inside.

>> No.5322056

>>5321984
Yes. DN3D and SW is pussy-tier compared to Blood.

>> No.5322064

>>5322056
Blood is harder but you're grossly over exaggerating.

>> No.5322067

>>5322056
In my opinion, SW in the harder difficulties is harder than Blood. The enemies in Blood are too easy to cheese when compared to the other games.

>> No.5322082

>>5322056
>>5322064
I can ace DN3D and SW blindfolded and one-armed while tanking a handstand while pissing 10ft straight in the air, but Blood fucks me so so damn hard it's not funny.

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>>5322082
Uh huh.

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>>5322084
Fight me fgt

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>>5309298
How would Blood have run on the PS1 or Sega Saturn?

>> No.5322102

>>5322097
Compromised.

>> No.5322162

>>5322102
Maybe so, but which port would be less compromised?

>> No.5322186

>>5322162
Look at how different the ports of DN3D and Powerslave onto SAT/PS1 were handled and draw your own conclusions.
Simplification, entirely new maps, smaller maps, lower frame rates, smaller texture/sprite sizes, reduced sprite animations and so on.

Probably all possible, but few were good enough to pull it off. Then there's the question of how much demand was there for a port of Blood. Probably not so much at that point.

>> No.5322197

>>5322162
Playstation. Saturns 3d was a bitch, something about how textures were mapped, hopefully one of the saturn anons can show you with a tomb raider webm and a short synopsis.

>> No.5322238

>>5322197
Compare DN3D port on both systems
HUEHUEHUEHUEHUE

>> No.5322298

>>5322097
They actually intended to port it to consoles (don't know about the Saturn specifically), but some corporate rearranging bullshit with the devs put a stop to that.

>> No.5322314

>>5322097
It would be shit. It would be a shittier version of the game with even shittier controls than the original game.

>> No.5322427

>>5320532
Crisis in Columbia was awesome.

>> No.5322440

I just found out today Ion Maiden updated. I had no clue except an article showed up which showcased it. Now I'm playing it.
It's pretty good.
I think years of usermaps made people in this thread spoiled.

>> No.5322506
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Okay never mind I don't like this update anymore.

>> No.5322513

>>5322506
>House of Horrors
>horrible memes
Makes sense.

>> No.5322528

>>5322506
To be fair that would spook my shit if I discovered it, nobody expects a realistic texture of a dead meme staring at you in a build engine game

>> No.5322531

How would you improve Ion Maiden's early access?

>> No.5322538

>>5322531
Just release the game, it's nearly perfect as is.

>> No.5322540

>>5322531
make it like Dusk's.

>> No.5322550
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5322550

Squish is in effect.

>> No.5322561

>>5322513
There is zero horror in House of Horrors.

>> No.5322724

>>5322531
I would do this. >>5319246

Also, I know they're called bowling bombs, but the fact that you can't throw them higher than 1 foot feels bad man.

>> No.5322750
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>>5318047
The Cold Rush is now playable again
>v0.799

>> No.5322769
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5322769

>play modern Duke Nukem usermap
>props and details fucking everywhere
>sprites stretched, squished, rotated, and palette swapped until they vaguely resemble something different but ugly as fuck

>> No.5322808

>>5322531
Quicker reload animations, quicker weapon switching animations, mighty foot and make the minigun shoot immediately but build up speed instead of the current spin up before shooting. The best thing in this game is the frenetic combat, but it seems to me that their choice of going realistic on the weapons design is negatively impacting that. I often find myself backing up into a safe corner to switch/reload weapons and it totally disrupts the flow ( and fun ) of combat. Also I completely avoid using the minigun despite it being the most powerful weapon so far because the spin up is also really disruptive.

Also make enemy projectiles faster on higher dificulties. Its just too easy right now to avoid almost all their damage by simply zig-zagging in front of them.

Other than that, everything feels perfect.

>> No.5322826

>>5322750
ok, maybe slope tilting wasn't fixed after all...
whenever I reload a save it comes back again, have to switch it off in the options again

>> No.5323072

>>5322724
>Also, I know they're called bowling bombs, but the fact that you can't throw them higher than 1 foot feels bad man.

The alt fire that was added in the recent update has a different arc. It doesn't lob them but throws them.

>Also I completely avoid using the minigun despite it being the most powerful weapon so far because the spin up is also really disruptive.

If you hold the alt fire, you can fire instantly.
In fact, I'm not sure if it's intended, but you can even bypass the build-up that way: hold alt fire and press primary and you can instantly shoot with no build up at all, it doesn't work all the time so I suspect it's a glitch

>> No.5323087

>>5322540
>make it like Dusk's.

so have uninspired weapons that are direct copy-paste of other famous FPS weapons, like doom2's two shotguns, except worse in some cases like their copy of quake's grenade launcher, and have enemies shot, even bullets, be slow as fuck so that casuals can think they're awesome when dodging them?

>> No.5323102

>>5309414
He said "No.", Err. With his foot.

>> No.5323103

>>5322769
Go back to 1996, old man

>> No.5323162
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5323162

>>5312146
Did something more with my bootleg Caleb, enjoy!

>> No.5323191

>>5322769
Yea, those ugly, swapped, streched, recolored and overused sprites are the typical usermapper flaw, especially when the sprite is irrelevant at the level. These people usually think these unnecessary micromanagements on their levels can replace creativity or interesting layouts and combat areas. Even Levelord felt in this trap in his episode 5 levels, although at least he didn't fuck up the colors and sizes.

>> No.5323194
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5323194

>>5323162
>>5312146

>> No.5323205

>>5323194
don't look at the hand AAAH

>> No.5323207

>>5323191
>samefag

>> No.5323462

>>5323162
I really like it, apart from the tiny child hand

>> No.5323489

>>5322750
>>5322826
I signed up on duke4.net but the admins haven't approved my account yet. FUCKING HELL, I just wanna let him know of this bug.

>> No.5323595

How do you play Cryptic Passage? I can see the files in the folder, but it doesn't appear on the menu. I've got the pirated and legit version from gog.

>> No.5323615

>>5323595
Never mind, I did it. That really was cryptic.

>> No.5323617
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5323617

>>5323595
if you have the GOG version, you should see it with the other episodes in the main menu after picking new game.

>> No.5323683
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5323683

>Those bastards are gonna pay for shooting up my ride!
>I live again!
>I RAIIKUUU SWORD DATSU PESONAL REAPON! I THINKU MY DINGY HANGING OUT, HAW HAWW HAWWWW! HERRO? IS YOUR LEFRIGERATOR LUNNING? BETTER CATCH IT, HAWHAWHAWHH. JUST RIKE HIROSHIMA

>> No.5323690

>>5323683
Lo Wang having dialog for equipping certain weapons is a great idea.

>> No.5323694

>>5323690
>HAHA, YOU GO POO POO, HIHIHI, I REAVU THE ROOM!
is there a more lo brow character than him?

>> No.5323736

>>5323694
>Time to get erased!
>haha

>> No.5323767

>>5313123
There's nothing wrong with the PS1 or EX version.

>> No.5323846

>>5323694
Yes. Play Redneck Rampage.

>> No.5323854

>>5323683
This post made me laugh.

>> No.5324139

>>5323207
2 people can share the same opinion you know

>> No.5324141

Well, maybe it's not a major loss that Cryptic Passage was hidden away. This is much easier, badly paced, and more amateurish compared to the full game. Coming off Post Mortem, which is retail quality, plus added new stuff.

>> No.5324174

>>5323207
No faggot, I'm a different person.

>> No.5324198

>>5324141
I'm glad somebody else agrees. I don't quite get the appeal for Cryptic Passage, especially not coming straight off the Plasma Pak (Post Mortem).

The only strength that Cryptic Passage has in my opinion are the good level-to-level transitions, it flows nicely. But still the pacing if you're coming off the 5th episode or even the 4th, just makes for a jarring change.

But I am curious, can you explain what you fucked up when your GOG copy doesn't have this >>5323617 in the episode select?

>> No.5324241

>>5324198
I didn't fuck anything up. I literally bought the real version just today.

>> No.5324243

>>5324241
Show us what your Episodes menu looks like

>> No.5324285

Are there any good levels beyond the first two episodes anyway? Mall of the Dead maybe.

>> No.5324295

>>5324285
what? Episode 4 and 5 have plenty of great levels. Even Episode 3 has some great ones.

>> No.5324301
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>>5323462
Still much appreciated, and I will strive to get better

>> No.5324319

>>5324301
Yeah, keep up, anon. Looked great

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>>5324243

>> No.5324335

>>5324328
why aren't you playing the GDX version?

>> No.5324342

Ion Maiden just got updated on Steam, anyone knows what it does?

>> No.5324378

>>5324335
Why are you trying to convert everyone?

>> No.5324396

>>5324378
Sorry, I wasn't. I'm just curious.

>> No.5324397

>>5322197
Triangular 3D objects and the like can be rendered with the Saturn's Quadrilateral-based graphics architecture; its not impossible at all! Besides Tomb Raider 1's stalactites and stalagmites, there's Sonic Jam's lobby area and certain parts of NiGHTS 1

>> No.5324414

>>5324328
Pretty sure the gog version has a separate launcher for cryptic passage, search it in your hard drive

>> No.5324425

>>5324342
A new mansion level, with new weapons, new secondary fires, new enemies and a powerup.
The new level is quite complex and very detailed but kinda short.

>> No.5324428
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>>5324425
It actually just got another update.

>> No.5324439

>>5324428
Oh, sorry. I'm phoneposting and didn't notice that.

>> No.5324446

I don't know what's happening to me. I grew up playing Duke Nukem 3D, but I was a little to young for it to actually greatly influence me, it wasn't until I got older that I got into more games and I always gravitated towards the story heavy and cinematic games like Half Life 2, BioShock to just name a couple examples.

Here I am now, replaying Duke and having played Blood for the first time, and Blood genuinely is becoming one of my favorite shooters ever, like I could give less of a shit about story.

>> No.5324449
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5324449

>>5324446
>Weapons are powerful
>But so are enemies

The fact that every battle in Blood could be your last and vice versa for the enemies is what I think makes Blood a fantastic game.

>> No.5324571

>>5324335
>>5324396

Here, it's the first thing you see.

>>5321781

Then there's the stuff you don't see until you feel them.

>> No.5325301

>>5321781
this is why I don't use GDX, polymost mode just rapes the colour palette which is so integral to blood's atmosphere

>> No.5325362

>>5320576
Blood is the best for me.

>> No.5325442

>>5319283
SW is comfy in a way that the other games aren't, though the beauty of the Build engine and games of that era is that they can all shine in their own ways.

SW is really good for its artwork and texturing, and can evoke some great nature feels. Imagine a Japanese Zen garden with butterflies fluttering around a water fountain, with a brass gong hanging from carved stone, set on a sun-bleached clifftop. That said, I also liked the urban maps found in the game, such as the airport, shopping mall stuff.

>> No.5325451
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5325451

>>5324342
>>5324428
it's a bunch of fixes and some changes for the bow

>> No.5325502

>>5325301
One might also argue that the tiny FOV, huge HUD and keyboard look controls of the original game also enhanced the terror atmosphere. But that doesn't mean its the best way to play it.

>> No.5325510

Why I have "you cheated" on blood ending mission screen? I didn't use any cheats. GDX bug ?

>> No.5325512

BloodGDX v0.799 (24.01.2019)
1. Screenshot name for usermap fixed
2. New audio driver with switchable openal 1.15.1 / 1.18.1 and midi / soundbank

>> No.5325514

>>5325442
SW has terrible level design

>> No.5325534

>>5325512
The slope tilting is still broken. (resets to ON after you load a save)

>> No.5325536

>>5325534
Post it in his Guestbook, maybe he didn't see it.

>> No.5325537

>>5325510

Never mind. I remember now, that I had to use noclip cheat, because I got stuck

>> No.5325541

>>5325536
his guestbook? I made a duke4.net account 4 days ago but the admins still haven't approved it.

>> No.5325542

>>5325541
http://m210.duke4.net/index.php/guestbook

>> No.5325550

>>5325542
Alright, done.

>> No.5325642
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5325642

>It's time to kick ass and chew bubblegum, and I'm all out of gum!

>I'm here to donate some blood... someone else's

>I STICKU FIRECRACKA UP YOUR ASS, HAWW HAWW HAWW

>> No.5325651

>>5325642
Revenge is a dish best served raw.

>> No.5325661
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5325661

>I go where I please, and I please where I go

>Mmhmmm, I've been dreaming of you all tied up like that..

>Horny labbits, HAWW HAWW HAWW!

>> No.5325696

>>5309298
What was Caleb's life like before he got torn to death and resurrected via magic?

>> No.5325735

Blood really has 3 different kinds of enemies.
1. Easy enemies that are pretty much trivial if the player has ammo or patience, like zombies, rats, butchers, gargoyles, essentially most of the game.
2. Mid tier enemies, which can fuck you up sometimes. Like hellhounds, underwater gillbeasts, and boss creatures.
3. And then there's the fuck you you're dead tier, which is reserved entirely for the hitscan cultists who can kill anything in seconds

>> No.5325752

Not sure why the hitscan enemies in Blood are such a contentious topic. I've been playing some Duke Nukem lately, and I feel like I have way less control over the hitscans in that game than what I do in Blood.

I'm better at Blood so maybe that plays into it, but I feel like I have a pretty good grasp on how to encounter enemies and get out fairly unscathed, whereas in Duke I'm taking damage constantly and I don't know what exactly I should do. Blood you duck and jump, they're incredibly effective against the cultists. Not denying that Blood has some absolute dickish enemy positioning, cultists standing around every corner ready to fuck you up.

>> No.5325778

>>5325752
Blood's hitscan are easier to stunlock. Duke's hitscan are easier to dodge.
The thing is, with Doom, people are more used to dodging than stunlocking; although then there are also those saying you can't dodge Duke's hitscan, these are hopeless people.

>> No.5325937
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5325937

Doom has projectile enemies and deadlier player weapons. In Duke Nukem, you have to shoot the shotgun 2/3 times to kill one pig or chaingunner each. In Doom the supershotgun can kill like 10 humans in one shot. Doom is more about run and gun + crowd control. Duke is more about taking cover and using explosives in more elaborate environments.

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5325991

>>5325696
I don't think whoever wrote this knew the game would be so goofy with the character laughing a quoting movies the whole time.

>> No.5325993

>>5325514
Nah.

>> No.5326003

>>5325651
>Everybody dead. I like that.
Honestly, I really like Lo Wang when he's being serious.

>> No.5326008

>>5325991
To be fair, the story and cutscenes are probably the low point of Blood. I don't mind that they tried, but it feels so weird and inconsistent. You might as well just ignore the story, and simply see it as a game about a man shooting monsters and evil guys. Simple and sweet.

>> No.5326010

>>5325937
Pig Cops/Enforcers have 100 HP, Zombiemen have 20.

>> No.5326014

>>5325514
What, specifically, was bad about the level design? I find it hard to rank this kind of shit, maybe because I haven't played through each game fifty times and written down which map was what and how each designer changed their style according to their mapping careers

>> No.5326101
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>> No.5326231
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5326231

Just played Death Row, this is an amazing level, whoah. I loved every part about it. The settings, the puzzles, the escape route itself being a reference to Shawshank Redemption. Stellar fucking level.

>> No.5326269
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5326269

>>5326231
>actually manage to capture Duke fucking Nukem
>strip him of his gear
>put him on an electric chair with no restraints
>???
>get ass kicked
What was the Battlelord's master plan?

>> No.5326334

>>5325642
>>5325661
OOH MUST BE AMERICAN MADE

>> No.5326341
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5326341

>>5323683
DELET

>> No.5326374

>>5326334
DATS NO ORDINARY WANG

>> No.5326532

>>5326269
>implying it wasn't Duke using his Balls of Steel to completely absorb the electricity and frying the chair

>> No.5326535

>>5323683
>Lo IQ
Should've stopped here, this is the best one by far

>> No.5326723

The more I look into Shadow Warrior, the more I'm convinced it is the most hilariously tasteless video game ever created.
Everything about it is just utterly shameless. It is so fucking dumb from top to bottom.

>> No.5326757

https://youtu.be/SKNV7MbZLRE?t=220
(3 minutes 40 seconds in)
What did Civvie mean by this?

>> No.5326814

>>5326757
Seemed pretty clear to me.

>> No.5326853

>>5322440
>>5322506
WHERE THE FUCK is the GOG update?

>> No.5326884

>>5326757
/vr/ BTFO

>> No.5326908

>>5326723
That's nice, but I've got a cool game for you to play now. It's called Postal 2. Have fun with it.

>> No.5326967

hey ion maiden question
why are there small flying enemies and small crawling enemies in an engine where you can't aim all the way up or down?

>> No.5327028

>Forgotten Catacombs
FEFUCKSSAKE: The Level
>Dungeon
U wot m8
No, just no.

>> No.5327035

>>5326908
I don't know, I played Postal 1 and 2 back in the day, it is edgy and dumb but I don't know if its as tasteless. There's something about Shadow Warrior that is just cream of the crop in terms of low brow humor.
But again I haven't played Postal in like 10 years so I can't really remember much.
I know you can mount a cat by its asshole on one of your guns, that's dumb but it isn't quite "JUST RAIKU HIROSHIMA" levels.

>> No.5327057
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5327057

Finished Episode 1 of Duke Nukem
Death Row was my favorite level

Death Row > Hollywood Holocaust > Red Light District > The Abyss > Toxic Dump > Launch Facility

>> No.5327109

>>5327035
Postal was some edge lord tier cringy shit

>> No.5327198
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5327198

Rank the Duke Nukem Episodes

>> No.5327203

>>5327198
3 > 4 > 2 = 5 > 1

>> No.5327210
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5327210

Why does the 20th Anniversary look like this? I'm running a pirated version of it, so it isn't updated, is it like some anon said? was it later patched and looks playable now? I just cannot handle that FOV, it looks atrocious.

>> No.5327216

>>5326723
I enjoy Lo Wang's silly one liners and I think he is a better character than Duke and Caleb.

>> No.5327221

>>5327198
Lunar Apocalypse > Shrapnel City > The Birth > L.A. Meltdown

>> No.5327235

>>5327210
Nah, mine looks like that too.
Then again I pirated my copy also, so who the fuck knows.

>> No.5327239

>>5327198
1 > 2 >> 3 >>>>> 4
Haven't gotten through 5 yet.

>> No.5327240

Considering buying the 20th Anniversary cheap off G2A, does that still work or has steam changed anything as of late? It's less than 2 bucks there.

>> No.5327247
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5327247

>>5327109
Sseth review when?

>> No.5327251

>>5326008
Rise of the Triad did this well.

>> No.5327254

>>5324449
Based and redpilled.

>> No.5327320

>>5327198
1 >= 4 > 2 > 3 > 5
LA Meltdown is great, they put most of the best stuff in it since it was the shareware. The last few levels are a bit of a letdown though.
The Birth is basically like episode 1 but funnier and consistent. Fuck babe Land though.
Shrapnel City is good, but not too consistent. The level designers have admitted many of its maps were rushed or converted from DM levels. Fuck that piece of shit Stadium.
Lunar Apocalypse has great atmosphere and some damn good maps, but I prefer the city style. And besides, Duke's ridiculousness kind of ruins the space horror atmosphere.
Alien World Order is good, but it feels overdetailed and gaudy compared to the original episodes. And most of the maps don't really FEEL like their location, they just feel like standard levels wearing the skin of France, Britain, etc.

>> No.5327326
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5327326

>>5327235
I just bought it for 2 dollars on g2a and the patched version does indeed fix it (bottom is the latest version)

>> No.5327329

>>5321692
If you go in the games directory and locate the config you can fix the mouse movement by changing MouseScaleX to 3 and MouseScaleY to 2. I did that then set the config file to read only and holy shit was it a huge improvement to the gameplay. I have no idea why they didn't make that the default setting. I don't know what's up with these "official" ports being shittier than fan made ones. Duke Nukem World Tour is also shit compared eduke32, having the same issue with fucked up mouse aiming and a general lack of features compared to it's fan made counter part.

>> No.5327348

>>5327329
Duke Nukem World Tour just feels off, everything about it. The mouse aiming is no doubt utter shit, but it also just feels so much floatier than eduke32 does.

>> No.5327362

>>5327203
>>5327221
Why do you rank 1 so low?

>> No.5327391

>>5327362
Ep. 1 is pretty average in my opinion, it has no bad levels but also none that are really good. Now the other episodes might have some shit levels here and there but they all have a couple of extremely good levels, the kind of levels that makes you want to reinstall duke to give it a quick replay every now and then.

>> No.5327430

>>5327348
I regret playing 20th anniversary world tour for my first time playthrough. Visually it's pretty great and the 5th episode is nice but wholly fuck the performance, awful mouse aiming, lack of fov slider, all just ruin the experience for me. At least I have an excuse to replay the game though.

>> No.5327435

>>5327430
EDuke32 doesn't have an FOV option either, unless you use the shitty/broken Polymer renderer.

>> No.5327442

Hello guys, ion maiden dev here, any questions? did anyone try the game? thoughts?

>> No.5327460

>>5327442
Post timestamp.

>> No.5327484

>>5327435
What's wrong with that renderer specifically? Is it the dark places of Duke that people use to make shitty "graphical enhancement" mods or something? Does it fuck with game pyshics? I've only tested it out to see if I could bump up the fov.

>> No.5327531

>>5327442
this >>5327460
and this >>5322808

I just think it takes too long to reload/switch guns right now. But maybe it's just me trying to play the game at a faster pace than it was designed for.

>> No.5327639

>>5327442
Yeah, I left some thoughts a few days ago.
>>5318937 >>5319246 >>5322724

>> No.5327649

>>5327484
Besides all the dynamic lighting added in (which some might enjoy), it has really unoptimized performance and rendering glitches even in standard vanilla maps.

>> No.5327983
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5327983

Graphic design is my passion

>> No.5328275
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5328275

Do people not like Death Row? I love that level.

>> No.5328301

>>5326008
The cutscenes and most of the story were an afterthought handled late in development.

>> No.5328305

>>5327442
why don't you read the thread instead of being an attentionwhore

>> No.5328372

>>5327329
I don't understand this level of incompetency on the behalf of the developers. I mean the mouse aiming literally skips pixels as it is now, how do you fuck something like this up? Even using the scroll wheel to switch weapons feels incredibly sluggish.

I don't understand. Free ports made by fans are so much better than this utter shite. Actually triggers me how bad it is.

>> No.5328436

>>5328372
Devs of pro sourceports just do what they're told for the most part
They're also budget and time constraints, while fan ports have all the time in the world. It took years before duke sourceports had more decent mouse aiming, and the pixel jumping you refer to was only improved recently for eduke32

world tour didn't even have true widescreen and had awful sound quality before it got patched in, or the ability to turn off auto aiming, depiste the maps being built for that in mind because the level designes built it and tested with eduke32

>> No.5328445
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5328445

Which is your favorite build engine weapon design?

>> No.5328461

So what's the best way to play SW on modern PCs?

>> No.5328478

>>5328445
Isn't that thing based on a real prototype? Something the Soviets came up with?

>> No.5328503

>>5328461
I am also curious about this, the hour or so I've spent with Redux has entirely put me off, I have no interest in playing that game if I have to use that port.

>> No.5328513

>>5328478
>Duke is using cheap shit commie weapons that never even made it past prototypes
haha, what a cuck!

>> No.5328525

>>5328461
>>5328503
Redux is better than megaton at least it has true widescreen and a FOV slider.; however I still think the best way to play the game is through DOSbox.
It's not like the game was designed for precise mouse aiming, you just shoot in the general direction of an enemy.
there is also SWP but even the latest revisions have sound issues

>> No.5328536

>>5328525
i'd still buy redux anyway since it comes bundled with the game and the 2 addons preconfigured in dosbox and at least you can switch between the 2 versions and make up your own mind

btw no need to samefag, this is a slowboard

>> No.5328548

>>5328525
>Redux is better than megaton
stopped reading there

>> No.5328554
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5328554

Did you guys knew that this was based on Blood?

>> No.5328556

how do I access the expansion packs in eduke32? I have the GOG release of the Atomic Edition

>> No.5328583

>>5328556
Choose a .grp on start-up screen or something.

>> No.5328592

>>5328583
I can't find anything in the usernamps and in the gog folder I don't find any grp files.

>> No.5328656

>>5328592
Do you have the eduke32 startup window disabled for some reasons?
in eduke32.cfg, set forcesetup to 1

eduke32 should automatically detect if you have the addons installed through gog or steam and you should see them in the list

if that doesn't work; then that means eduke32 isn't directly compatible with it and it needs a proper install, honestly I don't remember. All I know is that megaton's addons are setup differently which is why all you need for those are the .grp files; so you can always try to pirate megaton

also the names of the grp files are:
>vacation.grp
>dukedc.grp

if you find nwinter.grp all you have to do is shift+delete and select yes

>> No.5328660

>>5328656
I managed to fix it. Apparently the Atomic Edition install from the mega link the doom threads doesn't actually come with the GRP files for the expansions, those were in a different download, so I downloaded that and now I have the option to boot those grp files from the loader.

>> No.5328675

>>5327362
I love the first three levels but then it nosedives for me. That isn't to say I think the other levels are poorly made or anything, I just really don't like the industrial settings, or wilderness setting for The Abyss, of the latter half of ep1.

>> No.5328684
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5328684

>>5327198
2 > 1 > tie between 3 and 4 > 5

anyone ranking Lunar Apocalypse last is a tasteless pleb

>> No.5328696
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5328696

>>5328445
The Shrinker/Expander, especially the alien version from the N64 port.

>> No.5328709
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5328709

explain the RR humour to me.
am I missing the jokes because I'm ESL, or are there no jokes?

>> No.5328753

>>5328709
Did you play the game with the Cuss Pack? If yes, then BIG MISTAKE.
And it's not about the jokes, it's about irony, about the entire picture as a whole being ridiculously skewed. Also, purely art-direction-wise, the second game is far less consistent when compared to the first one.
At least, that's how I personally see it.

>> No.5328772

>>5328709
In other words, I'd say that RR heavily relies onto absurd, "what's going on in this thre~" kind of humor. It's not the punchlines that crack you up, it's just sort of so much things being so wrong all at once (the scrappy somewhat duct-taped quality of the game itself absolutely chips in as well), sometimes you just can't help but smile.

>> No.5328774

>>5328772
Here, found a more or less fitting analogy, I think. Shitposting, the good kind, for the most part.

>> No.5328779

>>5328709
Also, as the last remark, read the manual (download it off replacementdocs if need be).

>> No.5328927

>>5328684
I just finished Episode 2 for the first time ever. Not sure why people would put this episode on a pedestal. It had a couple of really good levels though, I wouldn't say that level design is its main problem just all the fucking annoying enemies and the setting just isn't good either.

Now onto Episode 3.

>> No.5328929

>>5328927
Ep2 is usually seen as the black sheep of the game.

>> No.5329031

Someone make a new thread

>> No.5329158

New thread.

>>5329157
>>5329157
>>5329157

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