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I’d like to dive into this genre. My only real experience with a point and click adventure game was putt putt saves the zoo. Does anyone have good suggestions for point and click games to start with?

>> No.5282174

>>5282168
LucasArts games are great fun. Day of the Tentacle, Sam & Max, Indiana Jones, etc.

>> No.5282183

>>5282168
many people will suggest the old classics, but the problem is, they were designed for a generation with a way higher tolerance toward frustration... some of them can make you lose the game after several hours or just wont offer enough hints or something. eg: Maniac Mansion

>> No.5282190

>>5282168
LucasArts games are a good entry point because they're mostly designed to avoid no-win scenarios and sudden death. Among these, the first Monkey Island, Fate of Atlantis and The Dig contain the most grounded puzzles. Sam & Max, Day of the Tentacle and MI2 get a little too creative and unhinged with the "logic" involved if you're just starting out.

I'd also try more modern stuff by other devs, like Broken Sword for example; it's less about inventory shenanigans and more about slow-paced, careful investigation.

Leave Sierra games for last.

>> No.5282204

>>5282168
The Lucasarts ones are the only ones worth playing to be honest. The others have major problems with terrible designs choices that are just unacceptable in modern day gaming.

>> No.5282220

>>5282168
Darkseed

>> No.5282226

>>5282220
Formerly Chuck's

>> No.5282247

Quest for glory series. RPG elements mixed with point and click. Slight bit of humor thrown in as well. Also, you can import characters from one game to the next.

>> No.5282263

>>5282168
Sam & Max, Day of the Tentacle, Full Throttle, Indiana Jones and the Fate of Atlantis, Broken Sword, Gabriel Knight (the original version with Tim Curry etc).

>> No.5282269

>>5282226
damn it

>> No.5282294
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5282294

>>5282168
Download ScummVM and play plenty of graphic adventures from there. It'll give you the best experience. Although both Monkey Island 1 and 2 to my great surprise are actually very consistent in their Special Edition form, because it's very beginner-friendly and also you can switch to the good old pixel graphics WITH the voice acting. Very good indeed, i would start from there if i were you. Then you can just go for whatever other game you wish: Maniac Mansion, Day of the Tentacle, Sam & Max, Full Throttle, Indiana Jones, LOOM, The Dig, Discworld. All of these are the ones on the tip of my head and i assure you they're all good. A personal favorite of mine is Broken Sword: the second one is good but it's the first one that actually cuts the cake.

>> No.5282316

>>5282294
>you can switch to the good old pixel graphics WITH the voice acting
I thought that was not possible unless the game files are modified.

>> No.5282326
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>>5282204
I do prefer LA's adventures, but Sierra's trigger happy design style made for more engaging experiences. Knowing you can't possibly fuck up makes the adventure less immersive, which is basically a early form of most people's main grievance with modern hand-holding game design

King's Quest VI and Quest for Glory will fuck you up every chance they get but still are definite must-plays. Some Space Quest ones too probably

>> No.5282338

Sanitarium is a pretty good starting point. No convoluted bullshit puzzles that I remember, decent story, unique atmosphere.

>> No.5282371

>>5282316
I have it on Steam, it's possible without any modification whatsoever.

>> No.5282373

LucasArts games.
Start with the Monkey Island series, then Sam & Max and Day of the Tentacle (their best game). Broken Sword is a great introduction too.
Gabriel Knight is the best for getting into Sierra, but their games are not for beginners no matter what the hardcore fans say.

>> No.5282420
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5282420

More puzzle than adventure but the Goblins games were fun point & clicks

>> No.5282470

Point 'n click adventure isn't real videogames.

>HURRRR MUH STORY AND WRITING IN PLACE OF NEGLIGIBLE NON-EXISTENT GAMEPLAY

Go play a fucking shmup, not this faggy garbage.

>> No.5282497

>>5282470
Not OP, but i equally love shoot 'em ups and point 'n' click games. There's no need to be a dick about it and stigmatize all the shoot 'em up community just because a lot of guys like you act elitist about it.

>> No.5282530

>>5282420
Woodruff and the Schnibble is another nice Coktel game. Most of their other stuff were... not good to say the least.

>> No.5282565

>>5282470
Puzzle solving is gameplay.

>> No.5282596
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5282596

>>5282168

I would suggest The Secret of Monkey Island, its considered a classic for a reason.

There's an EGA version (16 colors) with midi music, or you could go all out and play the 256 color VGA remake with CD music.
Runs great under ScummVM.

Just stay away from the special edition.

>> No.5282606

>>5282596
The special edition is ok, just play it classic mode with the voice acting and it's actually the best way to play it.

>> No.5282620

https://www.fanatical.com/en/bundle/leisure-suit-larry-bundle

>> No.5282626

>>5282420
tfw i was a highschool boy who couldn't beat this game, and my friend's imouto who was in grade school beat it. i had to ask her how she solved the puzzles.

>> No.5282661

>>5282470
What is this forced meme about shumps on /vr/ now?

>> No.5282683
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5282683

>>5282168

One of the finest of the Genre

>> No.5284308

>>5282168
Grim Fandango

>> No.5284398
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5284398

THAT DOESNT WORK THAT DOESNT WORK THAT DOESNT WORK THAT DOESNT WORK THAT DOESNT WORK THAT DOESNT WORK THAT DOESNT WORK THAT DOESNT WORK THAT DOESNT WORK THAT DOESNT WORK THAT DOESNT WORK THAT DOESNT WORK THAT DOESNT WORK THAT DOESNT WORK THAT DOESNT WORK THAT DOESNT WORK

>> No.5284428

>>5282294
>also you can switch to the good old pixel graphics WITH the voice acting.
unless they patched this in later, this is a lie

>> No.5284445

>>5284428

I also remember that not working, which is why people who want this will have to use the Monkey Island Ultimate Talkie edition.

http://gratissaugen.de/ultimatetalkies/

>> No.5284446

>>5284398

Maybe you're just a very dumb individual?

>> No.5284462
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5284462

>>5284445
Yeah I got those eventually and just play them in ScummVM without hassle. Maybe they eventually released an update that gave you the option to go classic + talkie though

Shame there's no way to apply the talkie patch to the original 16-color version though. I always liked that one best

>> No.5284478

>>5282168
Sierra games, King's Quest, Space Quest, Police Quest and so on. Then Monkey Island. Most of these aren't really point and click, but you type your actions instead of picking them from a menu.
>>5282183
By their own admission, they were designed so you would call their hotline for tips, or buy a guide from them. It's not even a secret.
Hell I might as well ask, are there any classic adventure games that aren't filled with bullshit puzzles? It feels like there's always at least one that doesn't make any goddamn sense.

>> No.5284682

>>5284446
Or maybe he's just playing Discworld

>> No.5284768

>>5282294
>>5282316
>>5282371
Pretty sure that's only MI2, MI1 required (at least last I played it) a fanpatch to run it with voices in retro mode.

>> No.5284805

>>5284428
>>5284768
Nope, i'll repeat it again, i have it on Steam and the thing works great since the beginning just as i said, without any kind of patch. You just have to start it in special edition mode and then switch to classic with the hotkey and so you'll have both the voice acting and the old graphics. Also this version has the developer comments in it so it's a triple win situation.

>> No.5286920

>>5282168
FYI the 3 Sam and Max games from tell tale before they went full retard are amazing.
highly recommended

>> No.5287001
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5287001

Flight of the Amazon Queen

>> No.5287032

>>5282338
i just finished sanitarium and definitely wouldn't call it too rough by any means. the game is short but it's a slow game so be patient (although if you're playing point and click you probably are plenty patient.)

i also really enjoyed clock tower (SNES game if i recall correctly).

>> No.5288862

>>5282326
Wtf did he just get squashed by a giant scrotum?

>> No.5288867

>>5282168
Get scummvm, download a full game pack from where ever and then start up a random game.

>> No.5289873

>>5282220
Damn that was a good game!

>> No.5289885

>>5282661
I'll give you the gestalt:

A namefag on /shmupgen/ on /vg/ started creating threads here and interjecting in JRPG threads by calling them menu-based trash and using the word "jarpig" a lot. He also pointed out how /vr/ is more interested in talking story in games instead of skill based games like shmups. This resulted in countershitposting both here and on /vg/, calling shmups derivative and samey. Now you just have people blatantly falseflagging and memeing like the guy you responded to.

>> No.5289890

>>5282168
Maniac Mansion. There's a few horror titles that are point and click from the 80's. The deeper you dive the more you find in that genera.

>> No.5289948

>>5289885
He didn't hate JRPG's because they're "menu-driven", he shit on them because they're full of progress faggotry, e.g. all it takes to overcome any challenge is mindless/tedious grinding for XP, farming for broken gear, etc.

>> No.5289960

>>5289948
OBSESSED

>> No.5290045

>>5284805
>Also this version has the developer comments in it

So it's not MI1, gotcha.

>> No.5291684
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5291684

>>5282168
Also try this. You might get obsessed with the aesthetic and music.

>> No.5291689

>>5282168
You don't.
You start at Zork and you stop the instant you see a mouse cursor.

>> No.5291693

>>5282168
Start with The Secret of Monkey Island, and then play 2 and 3. And use the Special Edition. Don't listen to autists screeching about using the original. I'm so old I played the originals when they came out and would only do so again for the nostalgia. New players shouldn't.

>> No.5291721

>>5291693
Special edition is garbage though. Even if you like the terrible HD graphics, the interface ruins the game. At least they let you play in classic mode if you want, unlike real abominations like the Broken Sword or Gabriel Knight remakes.

>> No.5291779

>>5291721
There is literally nothing wrong with the new interface.

>> No.5291886

>>5291693
Fuck off nigger, i was a "new player" only a few years ago without any kind of nostalgia whatsoever and i played both ways. The new design is very good but absolutely not on par of the old style, i say so myself as someone who didn't play it in the 90s. I do agree with playing the Special Edition though, but that's just because you can play old-school + voice acting. To be fair only the second chapter let you do so, while the first one must be patched if you want both, but still... The one thing i liked a lot about that edition aside from what i just said, is the developers' comments whenever you enter specific areas.

>> No.5291926

>>5291779
Good one.

>> No.5292740

>>5282683
This. If only there were more games like this.