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5270126 No.5270126 [Reply] [Original]

>has no RPGs, survival horror, fighting games and 2D games in your path

Why do Nintendies defend this failure of a console? Even the Gamecube was better.

>> No.5270221

>>5270126
Never owned or even played on one but it has some really good 1st party games and for that console generation had the most popular multiplayer games, Mario Kart, Smash, Mario Party etc. Though for single player and arguably graphics and sound the PSX wopped it's ass.

>> No.5270234

>>5270126
> 32.9 million systems sold world wide
> a failure
zoom zoom, zoomer cancer. it was far from a failure. if you want to talk about abysmal failures, let's talk about the sega saturn.

>> No.5270243

>>5270126
>RPGs,
Paper Mario
>survival horror
Resident Evil 2
>, fighting games
Killer Instinct 64, smash bros.
>and 2D games in your path
Mischief makers.

What a shit thread. In b4
>they don't count because I'm a platform-loyal mouthbreather and need attention.

>> No.5271335

What's with the N64 hate lately? Anyway, it was great if you liked 3D platformers and racing games.

>> No.5271354

Because Nintendo manchildren are mentally ill.

>> No.5271373

>>5271335
it's always the same with N64 haters, they come in and screech over people liking the console every now and then.

>> No.5271553

>>5270234
> Thinks 32.9 million is not a failure

PSX sold 102.5 million units world wide. The N64 sold less than 1/3 of that. The Xbox almost beat the N64 with 24 million units sold.

Mind you, Nintendo had the majority of the market in the NES era and wasn't far behind Sega in the 16-bit era. The fact that Sony was able to trounce Nintendo this badly in the 6th gen pretty much meant that the N64 was a failure.

>> No.5271561

>>5270243
> Paper Mario
Shitty kids game.

> Resident Evil 2
Port of a game developed for the PSX

> Killer Instinct 64, smash bros.

Yea, the N64 actually had some decent fighters. It also got MK4, although it never got SF ports.

> Mischief makers.
Nobody really gave a shit about 2d games because 3d was all the rage, overall to the detriment of gaming on the whole in this generation because early 3d looked like shit.

>> No.5271564

>it's another 5th gen console war thread
Zoomer, you're really bored, right?
Also
>playing 5th gen RPGs with these awful loading times
Shiggy, etc, etc

>> No.5271579
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>>5270126
The N64 had a shitload of fighting games.

>> No.5271584

>>5271553
>PSX sold 102.5 million units world wide. The N64 sold less than 1/3 of that. The Xbox almost beat the N64 with 24 million units sold.
The N64 sold 33 million, how is that "almost beating"? Also the xbox was considered a success yet people try to shit on the N64.
>Nintendo had the majority of the market in the NES era and wasn't far behind Sega in the 16-bit era. The fact that Sony was able to trounce Nintendo this badly in the 6th gen pretty much meant that the N64 was a failure.
Sure, the N64 failed to hold onto the market. This was due to a high price point and highly delayed release, not due to how good it was. A major reason the xbox sold is because of Microsoft's marketing it as being for "mature" people (so teenage edgelords saw it as cool) and people thinking MS was about to take over the gaming industry, so it's not like Nintendo was the only one with a reputation.

>> No.5271597

>>5271584
>actually engaging into an argument with a clueless console warrior
Just let him be, anon.

>> No.5271608

>Not just playing the games you like irrespective of the console they were released on

Why

>> No.5271623

>>5271373
And by "every now and then" you of course mean "every bloody day"

>> No.5271694

>>5271584
Look, I had an N64. I enjoyed playing games like GoldenEye, OoT, and KI Gold.

But that doesn't change the fact that the N64 was a massive business failure for Nintendo. They lost a ton of their market share to Sony, drastically impacting their future earnings in a negative way. They lost the majority of their 3rd party software support in the process which further limited their ability to regain that market share in future console generations.

If Apple loses 50-75% of its market share with the next iPhone you better believe that everyone will call it a failure and that heads will roll at corporate.

Nintendo's business failure doesn't invalidate the fun I had as a kid playing those games and occasionally now get playing them for free on an emulator. Unfortunately, it did impact their future development into a niche console with the Wii and Switch and thus I am no longer a Nintendo consumer.

Btw, the original XBox was a massive failure as well. I don't know where you're getting your information from.

> High price point on release

Nigga you trippin. N64 was released at $199, which was cheaper than the $250 PSX at the time.

>> No.5271703

>>5270126
I had both psx and N64 and played more the later. You know good games is more important than all that?

>> No.5271705

>>5271553
Playstation was on shelves much longer than the N64, and it also outsold all previous Nintendo consoles, including ones from when Nintendo was a "monopoly" because it expanded the video game market. Those numbers don't mean anything without context.

>> No.5271707

>>5270126
The fact that it sold so well reinforced the idea that nintendo can push out dumbed down shit for two year olds and they'll make even more money than if they actually tried like they used to. It's been downhill for this company and their classic IPs ever since.

>> No.5271716

>>5271703
I had both also, I basically played Banjo, Mario 64, some Mario Kart, some Diddy Kong Racing, some wrestling, the two Zelda games, and shit like Quest 64 and a handful of other random titles for about five minutes. All in all about four to five months of serious gameplay. I can name about 40 ps games that I played seriously at that time, gave me a full 4 years of gameplay until ps2 came out, at which point I was still mostly playing my old ps games.

>> No.5271729

N64 didn't have Final Fantasy or Street Fighter so it was inferior to the PSX.

>> No.5271731

>>5271705
> Those numbers don't mean anything without context.

The only context missing is your looking at absolute sales numbers instead of market share.

Nintendo lost almost all their market share to Sony while Sony also reached more new customers that Nintendo couldn't get... so you're further proving my point that the N64 was a business failure.

>> No.5271737

>>5271579
War Gods, Fighter's Destiny, the list goes on

>> No.5271742

Doom 64 is the best Doom game, I cant hate the 64.

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>>5271729
>Street Fighter
>on playstation
enjoy your worst ports

>> No.5271806

>>5271694
The Playstation was a few years old when the N64 got in stores. It had a few pricedrops since then and even at release it was still cheaper than the N64. Not to mention individual games, which were much more expensive on the N64 due to them being released on cartridges.
Where did you get the idea that the playstation was more expensive?

Not that it really matters by now because both consoles are cheap as dirt and it's incredibly easy to play games on them without paying being scammed by second hand sellers.

>> No.5271821

>>5271694
>But that doesn't change the fact that the N64 was a massive business failure for Nintendo. They lost a ton of their market share to Sony, drastically impacting their future earnings in a negative way. They lost the majority of their 3rd party software support in the process which further limited their ability to regain that market share in future console generations.
Wow, I said nothing against any of that, I agreed with it completely. You're the one confusing arguments here. I'm saying the N64 was a good console.
>Btw, the original XBox was a massive failure as well. I don't know where you're getting your information from.
No it wasn't, not except in Japan.
>Nigga you trippin. N64 was released at $199, which was cheaper than the $250 PSX at the time.
N64 was released at £250 in the UK in March 1997. This was a LOT more pricey than the PS1 at the time especially when you include the game. N64 games were about £60 while PS1 games games were about £40. Nintendo had banked on cartridge manufacture prices decreasing more than they did sooner. That was a major reason why the N64 tanked, come on bro, you lived through this (apparently, you might not have been doubled digits at the time). The $199 N64 in US in 1996 must have been selling at a huge loss, but ok that is one decent point. However I would be shocked if the PS1 was $250 at the time, without games? That's certainly nothing like it was in EU.

I think you're the one tripping bro. The PS1 was $299 at LAUNCH. You're telling me two whole years earlier, just when a major competitor was coming out, it was going for $250? wtf no it wasn't lol that's laughable. Enough with this retardation, please get your facts right more before getting in a discussion, just try to be more sure of what you're saying, not plain making shit up. oh and have fun with your N64 "emulation".

>> No.5271828

>>5270126
>Even the Gamecube was better.
Let's not say things we can't take back. Going from N64 to Gamecube taught me a very important lesson in life: things can ALWAYS get worse.

>> No.5271836

>>5271821
N64 was cheap in the US (games weren't), and it sold very well there.

>> No.5271838

>>5271828
This. The only thing Gamecube had over N64 was slightly better 3rd party / multiplat support. But its exclusives were mostly shit compared to N64's exclusives.

>> No.5271839

>>5271838
GC had a better analog stick too.

>> No.5271840

>>5271561
>overall to the detriment of gaming on the whole in this generation because early 3d looked like shit
If you're a zoomer maybe.

>> No.5271846

>>5271821
>No it wasn't, not except in Japan
It also flopped in Europe. Nobody outside of NA buys XBox consoles in general.

>> No.5271853

>>5271839
The N64 gets loose and all that, but in terms of actual precision, it's one of the best I've tried. Even loosened.
Have you tried to play a game that requires aiming with a GC controller? Or any other controller for that matter.
I tried to play Sin and Punishment on the Wii VC with a GC controller and I was put off by the analog stick. I preferred to keep playing on my old N64 with my loose stick. Still better precision.

>> No.5271860

>>5271846
No it didn't. Just kill yourself zoomers, the world's population doesn't need you and we'd all be better off.

>> No.5271861

>>5271579
I played as the pink girl a lot. Then I grew up and transitioned.

>> No.5271862

It was a game system designed for children, the perfect system for sleepovers, that's why people are so fond of it.

>> No.5271864

>>5271860
>calling me a zoomer
The original XBox sold 6 million consoles in Europe. Less than half of their sales in the US.

>> No.5271867

>>5271821
> Arguing with someone from another country about pricing...

Why?

You don't have to believe me. The PSX was released in Sep 1995 with an MSRP of $299. The N64 was released in Sep 1996 with an MSRP of $199. In response to this, Sony lowered the price of the ONE year old PSX to $249 for the holiday season, and it still trounced Nintendo.

I don't know what the price was in the UK and I don't care to know. What I do know is that Sony was the more expensive yet popular system, although the games were on average $25-35 cheaper. You could buy 3 PSX games for every two N64 games.

>> No.5271887

>>5271864
N64 sold 20 million in "the Americas" and only 6.75 million in "Europe and Australia". That doesn't mean N64 was a "failure" in Europe. I know a few people with Xboxs in Europe but it was a failure in Japan.
>>5271867
>What I do know is that Sony was the more expensive yet popular system,
Two different people have come in and confirmed you are wrong. jfc relent.

>> No.5271908

>>5271840
It's funny how people who weren't alive at the time get so angry about this stuff.

It was very difficult for companies to get approval to develop 2D sidescrolling/platformer games on 6th gen consoles, especially when the N64 hit the shelves. Sony wanted the PSX to be known as a 3D console. Castlevania SOTN was a notable exception and it took a lot of wheeling and dealing to make that happen. There are a few other exceptions like Rayman and Mega Man, but for the most part 3D was required.

This stymied creativity and prevented developers from making beautiful 2D rendered environments in platformers. Hence it was bad for gaming. Consider that one of the best games for PSX almost didn't get made because 'muh 3D.' It was also a bit ironic because the PSX couldn't do 3D environments, it had to use pre-rendered backgrounds as a trick.

>> No.5272430

>>5271561
>le move of the goalposts XD
Fantastic.

>> No.5272638

>>5270126
As someone who doesn't really care for horror, fighting games or most RPGs that's not much of an argument. 2D games wouldn't really add much either since it was all about 3D games, which was a pretty new thing at the time. I don't even play a lot of N64, I just think that if a console has good games and plays them well it doesn't really matter what types of genres they are; would you consider the lack of point-and-click adventure games on the Dreamcast a failure too?

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>>5272638
So you only like bing bing wahoo collectatons, bing bing wahoo spinoffs and shitty console FPS? Because that's literally all the N64 has to offer. Not even memeing. All the best selling N64 games are literally just that: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_best-selling_Nintendo_64_video_games

>> No.5272679

>>5272664
try harder

>> No.5272713

>>5270221
lol wut? Graphics? No.

>psx poster
Oh, that explains the retardation.

>> No.5272714

>>5272679
Okay, I forgot to mention the overwhelming abundance of sports shovelware games for some reason. A measly 388 games and almost half of them are sportshit: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Nintendo_64_games

>> No.5272715

>>5272714
yeah, keep trying, you're getting better!

>> No.5272717

>>5272714
Now do that with the playstation and over half the catalog are unplayable jarpig shovelware.

>> No.5272720

>>5272717

Seethe.

>> No.5272723

>>5272720
It's only natural to feel rage at the face of overwhelming stupidity.

>> No.5272742

>>5272717
Unfortunately, the games aren't listed by genre here, so I can't take a quick look at them to compare: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_PlayStation_games_(M%E2%80%93Z)

2615 games vs 388 though. And you can bet Nintendo regretted not keeping those "jarpigs" since FFVII sold more than any N64 game.

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>>5271737
Mace The Dark Age motherfucker!

>> No.5272768

>>5270126
RE2 was on it for

>> No.5272774

>>5270126
>2D games

There was Bangai-O. Granted, the Dreamcast port saw a wider release.

>> No.5272783

>>5270243
>>5272774
>Mischief Makers
>Bangai-O

Both of those are 2.5D, not 2D. N64 never had 2D masterpieces like Castlevania SoTN, Rayman, Legend of Mana, SF: Third Strike, Marvel vs Capcom and so on.

>> No.5272786

but....it has all of those?

>> No.5272789

>>5272783
how the fuck is Bangai-o 2.5D, you mouthbreather

>> No.5272790
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>>5272789
It uses 3D models on a 2D perspective, not 2D sprites.

>> No.5272793
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>>5272790
except thats not what it looked like at all

>> No.5272802

>>5272793
Yeah, that's some Xbox 360 game, sorry. But the N64/Dreamcast version uses 3D models too.

>> No.5272804

>>5272802
Wrong.

>> No.5272807

>>5272802
no, it doesnt. Have you even fucking played it?

>> No.5272828

>>5272804
>>5272807
Well, these sure as shit don't look like traditional 2D sprites to me: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZllCtGuuRaM Maybe it's something similar to Donkey Kong, not sure, but it clearly looks nothing like the games I listed. It's ugly as hell.

>> No.5272830

>>5271792
Dumb cunt, the psx ports of street fighter, 2 or alpha, wateva flavor, were AT THE TIME, the best home ports available to the public (outside of that 3do version which is near arcade perfect but no one knows for sure because no one has ever played it, or the saturn version of alpha 3 which was jp only).

Even by todays standards they cross the line into 'good enough' territory for most non autists, in so much that there are no overtly noticeable or glaring omissions / comprimises. Unlike the 16bit ports that are hobbled by missing backwards walking frames, missing moves, butchered music / sfx.

Smarmy prick.

>> No.5272836

>>5270234
it is a failure retard

>> No.5272838

>>5271335
n64 never was great when you had a psx

>> No.5272846

>>5272828
Don't know what to tell you, man. Those are 2D sprites; that's not subjective.

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>>5270126

>> No.5272851

>>5272664
I like Lego Racers, Snowboard Kids and Robotron 64, that's about it. I never owned an N64, I was just pointing out OPs non-argument.

>> No.5272856

>>5272664
Oh and Mario too of course, but apparently that's not cool enough for a retro video game site

>> No.5272874

>>5270126
>seglet detected
It must suck to be so poor you can't even appreciate even all memestream consoles

>> No.5274842

Autism

>> No.5274854

>>5270126
Only sold so much because soccer moms didn't want to buy their ass rats a big boy PlayStation.

>> No.5274921
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>>5272830
Holy shit sony fanboy, there was a console called Sega Saturn that got the better ports of all Capcom games.
Playstation ports were all inferior.

>> No.5274994

>>5272828
youre either blind, an idiot, or both

>> No.5275014

Starcraft 64
/thread

>> No.5275053

Was a real shame when Nintendo fell so hard after trying to screw Sony over, and their best rush job console effort skewed entirely away from a GIGANTIC part of what made the SNES so amazing. Ya had to buy a PSX to get that SNES feel back! Karma really is a motherfucker.

Also: another obligatory "I actually owned an N64 in the 90s" post. I did enjoy Mario Golf a LOT, Goldeneye, etc. Still, overall, objectively speaking, the console was a pale shadow of what could have been. For those coming from the SNES it was an outright bait-and-switch.

tl;dr: The N64 is a cautionary tale about what happens when you try and fuck your betters.

>> No.5275065

>>5271861
based Princess Sevenleaf

>> No.5275068

>>5275014
This exists?

>> No.5275075 [DELETED] 

>>5272838
Only jarpigs think the PSX was better than the N64. Fuck off.

>> No.5275076
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5275076

>>5275068
Yep

>> No.5275131

>>5271806
Sega Saturn has the best SFA2 port, thats common knowledge you shitlord.

>> No.5275150

Ha ha, console wars! :-)

It is so important to have fights about which sold more. Commercial success truly is how you measure the quality of a video game entertainment home console!

Which has the better games??? Why, that is the valid question! I am going to follow the opinion of the majority of the anonymous posters in here and then I am going to play only the winner entertainment home console!

Which company is going to win the jackpot??? The grand prize is me playing their console! Let's do it, folks!!! Go on!!!

>> No.5275156

ooga booga n64 bad

>> No.5275160

>>5275053
What's worse was Sega sabotaging themselves with their petty SoA vs. SoJ in-fighting, which enabled shitty Sony to cuck them.

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>>5275075
>Nintoddlers using /shmupgg/ buzzwords to defend their console of less than 400 games

The PS1 had EVERYTHING, not just JRPGs. Biggest library of games ever, yes, even bigger than the PS2. To put things into perspective, the Switch already has almost the same amount of games as the N64 in just a year of it's lifetime. It was the worst console Nintendo ever made bar the Wii U. Deal with it.

>> No.5275173

>>5275162
>muh quantity over quality fallacy
>saves reaction pics of the shitty constipated screaming cartoon
>thinks the N64 was worse than the Nintendo Shitcube or any of their portables
Fuck, you are dumb. Par for the course for a sonygger, though.

>> No.5275208

>>5272848
muh niga

>> No.5275227
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>>5275173
It was. Deal with it. Ocarina of Time, bing bing wahoo and shitty console FPS which have aged terribly do not make up for the fact that the console was severely lacking in games in general. This is literally the only reason why the N64 is remembered 'fondly' by some nostalgia-blinded faggots, because it has two or three overrated games. Gamecube at least had somewhat of a variety of games from different genres to offer.

>> No.5275238

>>5275227
N64 is so much better than GC it's not even funny

Only quality title the cube had was Wind Waker. That's all

>> No.5275241

>>5275162
The Switch has over a 1000 games.

>> No.5275256

>>5275162
>/shmupg/ buzzwords
Retardo is ours actually. He started his anti-progress/jarpig shitstorm here before fucking off to /vg/.

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>>5275238
Just my opinion, but I think pic related is better than any NShitty game.

>> No.5275478

>>5275131
I believe you replied to the wrong post because I didn't say anything about the Saturn or fighting games.

>> No.5275487
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>>5275238
Super Smash Bros. Melee
Mario Kart: Double Dash
Super Mario Sunshine
Zelda: WW
Zelda: TP
Kirby Air Ride
Killer 7
Viewtiful Joe

I know some are on PS2, but this short lineup I just typed up is stronger than the N64 Library. Gimme a break, GCN blew N64 out of the water.

>> No.5275509

>>5271335
>lately

>> No.5275620

>>5270243
>"has no" taken literally
Don't be autistic.

>> No.5275768

>>5272783
Tell me, which fucking console from the N64's generation has SF3 and MvC?

>> No.5275859

>>5275768
MvC was on the PS1 but not Third Strike.

>> No.5275871

>>5275487
only viewtiful joe and killer 7 are good in that list.

>> No.5276046

>>5275238
>windwaker
>good

dohohohoho

>> No.5276102

>>5275487
>Super Smash Bros. Melee
Killed Smash thanks to the tourneyfaggotry.

>Mario Kart: Double Dash
Inferior to MK64.

>Super Mario Sunshine
Inferior to 64.

>the Zelda: WW
>Zelda: TP
Inferior to N64 Zeldas.

>Kirby Air Ride
>Gamecube couldn't even get a real Kirby game
Sad!

Face it, Gamecube was a goddamn mistake that forced Nintendy to sell out to soccer moms and grandparents with the Wii.

>> No.5276246

>>5275859
>MvC was on the PS1
A very questionable port of it, where you can't even 3v3.

>> No.5276248

>>5276246
3v3 was MVC2

>> No.5276258

>>5276248
Yeah I mean 2v2, you can't change characters during matches. MvC on playstation is like a demo version.

>> No.5276274

>>5276258
didn't mvc1 made up for this giving everyone more health and making your 2nd char an assist so it felt more like marvel super heroes?

>> No.5276370

>>5275241
98% Indies that are 40% cheaper on Steam. The Nintendo tax is why I don't buy any on it.

>> No.5276828

>>5270126
At least the Nintendo's only 64 good games were mostly exclusives. If you remove ports the NoGamescube is pathetic.

>> No.5276842

>>5270126
This is bait? It did 3d gameplay right

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>>5275227
>This is literally the only reason why the N64 is remembered 'fondly' by some nostalgia-blinded faggots, because it has two or three overrated games.
I am a big fan of the N64, but I am also realistic that it is because of the exact reason you posted. The great games that were on the system however were outstanding. Around 1/10th of the total library is worth talking about, but how does that compare to systems like the PSX & Saturn? I am not asking that in a dickhead manner, but only because I don't know. I am realistic that my taste in vidya is not mainstream. One of the main games that I own the N64 for is NBA Hangtime and Ogre battle. I own Both zelda games, but have never played them. Quarterback Club games that supported "High resolution" looked amazing for their time as well.

Cartridges coupled with nintendo doing dumb nintendo things really scared off 3rd parties, however, even though not a top seller it was still a great system.

Nintendo is a video game system, but in itself a nintendo is its own thing. Where sony lived on 3rd party software, Nintendo's 1st party games really carried the 64.

Nintendo always did things different. Certain genres of games did much better on N64 while others were much better on other systems. Does this stop me from liking my PSX as much as the N64? Not at all. PSX was a great system as well. Sure it had "more" games, but most of the games were nothing like what was on the 64.

>I like The Beatles, Elvis and Ween.

>> No.5276958

>>5270234
>>>5270126 (OP)
>> 32.9 million systems sold world wide
>> a failure
>zoom zoom, zoomer cancer. it was far from a failure. if you want to talk about abysmal failures, let's talk about the sega saturn.


>>5271742
No. Honestly Doom for the Jaguar was better.

>> No.5277495

>>5275620
>i failed
>i project
Cool story aspie

>> No.5277538

>>5276958
Confirmed zoomer who doesn't understand business.

>> No.5277554

>>5270126
Shit bait from a seething child.

I bet you're too young to remember the time Sony hastily redesigned the joypad for their console HALFWAY THROUGH IT'S FUCKING LIFESPAN because Nintendo changed the way we play games forever with the N64.

The PlayStation Classic is already in bargain bins. If Nintendo announced an N64 Classic tomorrow it would sell out instantly.

>> No.5278368

>>5277554
>The PlayStation Classic is already in bargain bins. If Nintendo announced an N64 Classic tomorrow it would sell out instantly.

This is true.

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5278373

>not enjoying the N64
Doing your hobby wrong

>> No.5278378

>>5270126
>Even the Gamecube was better.
neigh! I enjoyed the N64 a fuck ton better than the Gamecube.

>> No.5278515

>>5271553
>PSX sold 102.5 million units world wide. The N64 sold less than 1/3 of that.
Did you know that Sony sold 30 million PS1 consoles after the N64 was discontinued? It's because globalism had fully opened up the third world country market around the turn of the millennium. Those sales were literally nobodies for the taking before then.

>>5271584
>Also the xbox was considered a success yet people try to shit on the N64.
Going by profit/loss, the original Xbox is actually the least successful console in the history of gaming. It lost Microsoft somewhere around the realm of ~$4 billion dollars.

The reason? They were selling the hardware at an extreme loss per unit (hundreds of dollars).

>>5271731
>Nintendo lost almost all their market share to Sony while Sony also reached more new customers that Nintendo couldn't get... so you're further proving my point that the N64 was a business failure.
The only measure of business success is profit, not market share or raw units sold. That's only console war fodder.

There's some decent evidence out there which suggests the N64 was more profitable than the PS1 despite 1/3rd less sales. Due to the PS1 having an absurdly high piracy rate in third world countries the N64's attach rate isn't far behind it despite the games being so much more expensive.

Nintendo made higher profit margins on the hardware (no CD drive, more integrated motherboard than the PS1) and software (bigger cut on higher prices, higher royalty rates) than Sony did.

>> No.5278526

>>5277495
It's generally understood what soembody means when they say "has no RPGs" it means a severe lack of, not literally meaning "there is 0 RPGs on the system." I'm sure you understood already, it's well understood this is how people normally communicate, and you're purposely being obtuse to win internet points.

>> No.5278548

>>5278526
And "no fighting games" means it didn't have any good ones, since early 3D fighting games were all trash. However, it is true that the N64 didn't have a single horror game besides the late RE2 port.

>> No.5278558

>>5278548
>it is true that the N64 didn't have a single horror game besides the late RE2 port.
Nightmare Creatures

>> No.5278861

>>5278526
>words mean whatever the voices in my head say they do
Top kek kid

>> No.5279476

>>5271561
>paper mario
>shitty kids game
i dont have a reaction image suitable enough for your objectively abhorrent opinion
please just kill yourself for the better of this board, and the world overall

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>retro console wars

>> No.5279656

>>5271553
>if you make a billion dollars, your competitors win

>> No.5279657

>>5278515
> The only measure of business success is profit, not market share or raw units sold. That's only console war fodder.

This is just patently untrue.

Market share = growth = higher stock valuation = more money for shareholders.

Do you think Amazon is less successful than [insert small business here] because its profit margin is 3.8 percent? By the way, Amazon would take losses throughout most of the early 2000s.

For large companies like Nintendo and Sony, it is ALL about market share and GROSS revenue. That's how increase your valuation and ensure longevity.

THAT is why MS was willing to take losses on the XBox - their strategy was to attempt to gain market share at the expense of short-term operating profits.

>> No.5279921

>>5279657
Nintendo still has higher long-term profits than SCE so I don’t see your point even if you want to talk about the long-term.

Also Amazon sells more than one product. We’re just talking about the one here - N64. And how do you seperate out the success of the Xbox and Xbox 360 with your dumb definitions?

Market share gets you almost nothing with successor consoles. Look how many console FPS players abandoned Nintendo for the Xbox. How many people bought PS3 at launch again? Or Wii Us?

>> No.5279967

>>5270126
this bait sucks