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5266014 No.5266014 [Reply] [Original]

What was the best retro computer gaming platform, and why was it MS-DOS?

>inb4 asshurt amigafags

>> No.5266016

>>5266014
MS-DOS isn't a platform.

>> No.5266018

You do realize when people say "DOS games", they almost always mean stuff from 1991 to 96. Nobody really cares about 80s stuff since it can just be played on other, better systems.

>> No.5266020

>>5266014
My Amiga was a serious graphics & audio workstation while your DOS PC emitted beep bloop sounds with 16 colors :^) pleb

>> No.5266031

>>5266016
https://gamesnostalgia.com/en/games/platform/dos

You == Btfo

>> No.5266036

>>5266020
PCs weren't for drawing furry artwork in DeluxePaint, silly, they were for crunching the company accounts in Lotus 123. :^)

>> No.5266049

>>5266036
We had our own equivalents for these tools. Only Amiga, bitch :^)

>> No.5266058

Based on my experience, Amiga productivity software was garbage usually made by low budget developers. They had one crappy port of WordPerfect and a really crappy and outdated port of MS Works. Other than that, the big names like Microsoft, Lotus, and Ashton-Tate didn't bother with the thing at all.

>> No.5266061

>>5266058
>on your experience
Your experience is shit and means nothing to me you little bitch

>> No.5266067

>>5266058
The corporate world didn't use Amigas so why bother? Although my dad's company got their first PCs in the late 80s (fleet of Wyse 286s) and they used PC-Write, a shareware word processor, because they were too cheap to pay for WordPerfect.

>> No.5266078

>>5266067
We in Europe did, Germany, France and the UK extensively...until nepotism ruined that too.

>> No.5266082

>>5266078
In Germany every office used Atari STs. Most people here are surprised to learn it had a gaming scene.

>> No.5266093

>>5266082
We didn't have STs in offices. STs were good for sequencing music, not for playing games...because...STs you know. Garbage all around.

>> No.5266094

If you look at Atari ST stuff on German Ebay it's almost all office software.

>> No.5266119

>>5266014
>trying to be that guy
Both Amiga and MSDOS were great. It really depends on the game, but most of the time I am going to use Amiga, but there are some games that just feel way better on MSDOS.

>> No.5266143
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>>5266014
Look everybody, people fighting over old computers.

>> No.5266153

>>5266020
>My Amiga was a serious graphics & audio workstation

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>amigas
>for work

holy shit anon, that's rich

>> No.5266156

>>5266153
Zoomers are not welcome here

>> No.5266157
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>>5266020
>>5266036
>:^)
>:^)

>> No.5266158

Currently playing Monkey Island 2, VGA pixel art is comfy af

>> No.5266161

>>5266156
No wonder yuropoors got passed up in the technological sector by everyone including pajeets. It's because you used dog shit shovleware office productivity clones on your Amiga just like you had dogshit shovleware games on your Amiga.

>> No.5266168

>>5266161
Amiga was easily better than PCs in the 80s, by the 90s you had to swap 10 disks to play a game while PC owners would install the same game on their hard disk and laugh at you.

>> No.5266173

>>5266153
Now if you meant SGI workstations for sound and graphics work, then we have something to discuss.

>> No.5266175

>>5266157
That's you in the pic.

>> No.5266178

>>5266168
>Amiga was easily better than PCs in the 80s
Maybe in the A/V department, but Amiga games had the worst gameplay out there.

>> No.5266185

>>5266173
I had an SGI O2 and a DEC Alpha later on, but until 1994 it was the Amiga...either this or nothing for 3D, considering how expensive everything was.

>> No.5266187

>>5266031
Just because people use MS-DOS to refer to IBM or PC98 games doesn't make it right.
MS-DOS is just an operating system from which you can start some of those games.

>> No.5266201

>>5266178
Yuro shovelware did, some of the US stuff was better than the PC equivalent, if you like old wargames and CRPGs anyway. I would easily take any Microprose or EA Amiga title over the PC version, at least up to 1990.

>> No.5266216

>>5266201
Microprose were the biggest Amiga boosters anywhere and they actively supported it from 86 up to the end in 94, although after 1990 they outsourced development to Microprose UK.

Some Amiga arcade ports like Bad Dudes, Commando, and Paperboy were excellent, many were also pretty terrible.

>> No.5266232

>>5266216
Paperboy and Commando were from 86, they were only a year newer than the OCS Amigas. By the time you got to the start of the 90s, arcade games were beginning to outstrip its capabilities.

>> No.5266242

>>5266014
DOS-ROMS on IBM 5150

>> No.5266468
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5266468

I don't see the point in fighting over the good and bad of different retro computer systems. Maybe back then it had some meaning, but now?
In the 90's I had both an Amiga and later a DOS PC. Now I can emulate both DOS and Amiga machines with high speed and user comforts that were not readily available back then.
-No more disk or CD swapping needed, load times greatly reduced, often to basically nothing
-Games can be run at their optimum/maximum speed and fluidity
-Soundcards you didnt't have then (Ultrasound, Roland) can be emulated
-All combination of peripherals and control methods can be used and freely configured as you see fit
All this holds true for both PC and Amiga. Playing old computer games is so much better now. I know there are arguments to be made for real console hardware, but for computers? Fuck it!
So what if Amiga was better from '86 to '92 and DOS was boss from '92 to '98? I can enjoy both at their absolute best right now.

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>>5266158
>Currently playing Monkey Island 2, VGA pixel art is comfy af
Plus you install and run it from a hard disk.

Meanwhile in Amiga Land...

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5266572

>>5266158
>Currently playing Monkey Island 2, VGA pixel art is comfy af
Plus you install and run it from a hard disk.

Meanwhile in Amiga Land...

>> No.5266593

>>5266572
And even if you had a hard disk on your Amiga, you usually couldn't install the game on it anyway.

>> No.5266619

>>5266593
AGA stuff was designed to be run from a hard disk, problem was everyone kept making OCS games that by the 90s needed a dozen floppies (the old 880k format while PCs were all using high density disks by then) and didn't support hard disk installation.

>> No.5267126

>>5266572
If one disk went bad, you couldn't play the game.

>> No.5267326

>>5266014
>asshurt
Only thing hurting is my sides edgelet

>> No.5268390

Is there any reason to not play Amiga ports on DOS besides muh grafix?

>> No.5268395

>>5268390
>Is there any reason to not play Amiga ports on DOS
???

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>>5266161
And that's the problem with the Microsoft Office packages. It's a really nasty monoculture, because everybody is using it instead of alternatives or at least intermediate formats that every office software can read.

I never was a fan of the MS tools. The stuff that MS made for the Amiga was one of the worst examples of horrible software engineering. Microsofts AmigaBasic is by far one of the worst and unstable Applications on the platform.

And it's Commodores fault that the Amiga couldn't gain ground in the business world, since Commodores management was just grossly incompetent. They had really good engineers but the management fucked up every single time until the very end.

I was using my Amiga 1200 productively (especially for word processing and spread sheet etc.) until 2008 and never had much problems exchanging my data with the Windows world. You just have to use the right formats. My weapon of choice were the office software from Digita with Wordworth as word processor and TurboCalc for Spreadsheet. And to this date (at home) I never used Microsofts Office software or (beside AmigaBasic) any Microsoft software at all. You can't avoid the Microsoft bloatware at the job of course.
Currently I prefer LibreOffice btw.

And coming back to the Amiga and productivity software. Many popular software projects started on the Amiga like Cinema 4D. MAXON the developer of Cinema 4D originally was an Amiga developer in the first place. There was also MaxonBasic, MaxonC++ or MaxonPascal and I still remember some early video encoding software from them. But especially the fad of Raytracing/3D Modeling was huge on the platform in the 90s. There were many of these tools to choose from on the Amiga with either Cinema 4D, Real 3D, Reflections, Imagine 3D, Lightwave 3D, Sculpt Animate etc.
There were even competitions on those raytraced scenes in the various amiga magazines up until the very end of the system.

>> No.5268431

>>5266468
grown up post ftw

>> No.5268434

>>5268420
Off topic, but Windows 7 is the last Win version I'm using. I refuse to download that heap of spyware called Windows 10. Once my Windows 7 laptop dies, my next computer is going to run a Linux distro. Thankfully most cRPGs run natively on the platform.

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>>5268434
I'm on the same boat with you... but not with windows but from the other side.

When I made the switch from my Amiga 1200 to a MacBook Pro in 2008 indeed did I unironically never own a Windows PC or any Microsoft software in my life (C64 Amiga 500 Amiga 1200 Mac). But seeing how horrible the hardware (and even software) development of Apple is becoming right now (planned obsolescence seems to be all the rage now at Apple) I'm also thinking about getting a pure Linux Laptop when my current machine (MacBook Pro from '15) dies.

>> No.5268478

>>5268420
>The stuff that MS made for the Amiga was one of the worst examples of horrible software engineering. Microsofts AmigaBasic is by far one of the worst and unstable Applications on the platform.

That was just because MS didn't care about the Amiga at all. In the mid to late 80s they were huge Macboos and put tons of money and TLC into their Mac software. In fact at one point Mac products were their most profitable product line.

>> No.5268486

>>5268420
>I was using my Amiga 1200 productively (especially for word processing and spread sheet etc.) until 2008

>>/vr/?task=search&ghost=&search_text=amiga+2008
>>/g/?task=search&ghost=&search_text=amiga+2008

Not this spammer again.

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5268502

There wasn't really a better thread to post this, but do you guys know the name of the game that had a game over screen like "Rex has found you"? I tried searching that phrase but google has not been helpful.

>> No.5268506

>>5268420
>And it's Commodores fault that the Amiga couldn't gain ground in the business world, since Commodores management was just grossly incompetent. They had really good engineers but the management fucked up every single time until the very end.

Atari and Commodore had a disturbing tendency to chase off their engineering talent.

>> No.5268507

>>5266031
>hurr direct x 9.0 is a platform
>hurrr windows xp is a platform
>HURRRR games-written-in-C++ are a platform

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>>5268502
>Posting a wojack in /vr/
>asking "what game is this" in the wrong thread
Time for the rope, my friend.

>> No.5268520

>>5268473
I was considering a MBP as well until the current generation included lmao no ports and the touchbar gimmick which I thought was pretty stupid. I can configure a similarly specced Thinkpad for 900 less, and it has an actual tactile keyboard.

>> No.5268521

>>5268478
When Radio Shack developed the TRS-80 CoCo 3, they contacted Microsoft for an update to Color BASIC, which they had originally written, but MS had no interest so they got Microware Systems to do the work instead.

>> No.5268539

>>5268521
By the mid-80s, Microsoft really were 100% Apple/PC focused and didn't care about anything else. I recall Bill Gates as saying "We made a mistake putting out all those 8-bit versions of Multiplan when we should have been focusing on the 16-bit machines, the next generation stuff."

>> No.5268642

>>5268502
3d monster maze

>> No.5268698
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5268698

>>5268642
Thanks Anon!

>> No.5269127

Apple IIGS

>> No.5269130

>>5269127
If you want to play Math Munchers and Carmen Sandiego, but that's about all a IIgs is good for.

>> No.5269238

Am I the only one who thinks PhilsComputerLab is a bit of a dunce? His hardware comparisons are often arbitrary and devoid of utility, and when they are not, he often foregoes the most interesting aspects.
Yes, we get that this thing here runs this DOS game at 666 FPS, no need to spend two minutes going through charts that tell the exact same story.

>> No.5269254

>>5269238
He can't be any stupider than LGR.

>> No.5269456

>>5266049
>implying
A 386 will blow the fuck out of a 68000 any day of the week.

>> No.5269536

>>5266031
kek, you're the one getting btfo'd pretty hard on this one you silly, stupid and fag op... also
>links a page where the latter itself specifies it's an OS
what a nigger
>inb4 i was baiting
no, you're a nigger

>> No.5269583

>>5269536
DOS+IBM then. There, you happy, you quibbling little bitch?

>> No.5269608

>>5266020
>inb4 asshurt amigafags
didn't take long

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>>5266175

>> No.5270682

>>5266031
ms-dos isn't a platform, you raving lunatic.
>>5266058
your experience is 100% worthless and wrong.
>>5266067
> The corporate world didn't use Amigas so why bother?
> I'm just going to make things up as I go because I am computer illiterate
corporate world used plenty of amigas
>>5269456
> 386
> using CGA or EGA
> BTFO an AMIGA
AHhahHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH. it's like you think we've forgotten how fucking terrible that shit was! i'm sure the zoomer morons of the world might believe it, but here? TOP KEK. you're out of your fucking mind.

>> No.5271142

>>5270682
>386
>CGA
90% of all 386 machines ever made used VGA.

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>>5266067
Who cares about the corporate world anyway?

There's alway the argument, that there were no productivity software for the home computers and that software like that was (almost) exclusively available for either DOS/Windows PCs or Macs. But I made different experiences. But this time I'm not getting into the Amiga. I regularly bought those 8-bit magazines back in the day, but mainly the ones for the C64. And what can I say. Since these weren't the typical gaming magazines but rather had just a small section dedicated to gaming, those magazines were stuffed every single month with all kinds of productivity software for the C64 either free-, share- or commercial software. From word processor, to shit to organize your calendar, Spreadsheet, programming tools for everyones needs, graphic tools/editors (GoDot was surprisingly powerful btw.), sound monitors, notations software and the list goes on and on.

Just the many good and bad word processors for the C64 are worth mentioning:
https://www.c64-wiki.com/wiki/Word_Processor
(I think I was using StarTexter)
Yeah, those weren't WYSIWYG programs back in the day but if you liked these more you could also get the GEOS for your C64 and you have all sorts of WYSIWYG-oriented tools like GeoCalc for Spreadsheet.
https://www.c64-wiki.com/wiki/Spreadsheet

Yes, this wasn't MS Word, but Word was for these boring PC at the job and who would want to own one of those? I had to deal with both DOS Word and the early Win 3.1 Word and it was atrocious. And it's kinda sad that beside LibreOffice and it's derivates there aren't that much alternatives around like back in the day, when there wasn't a monopoly on stuff like that.

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>>5266067
Who cares about the corporate world anyway?

There's alway the argument, that there were no productivity software for the home computers and that software like that was (almost) exclusively available for either DOS/Windows PCs or Macs. But I made different experiences. But this time I'm not getting into the Amiga. I regularly bought those 8-bit magazines back in the day, but mainly the ones for the C64. And what can I say. Since these weren't the typical gaming magazines but rather had just a small section dedicated to gaming, those magazines were stuffed every single month with all kinds of productivity software for the C64 either free-, share- or commercial software. From word processor, to shit to organize your calendar, Spreadsheet, programming tools for everyones needs, graphic tools/editors (GoDot was surprisingly powerful btw. bit (dotty) ly/GoDot64 ), sound monitors, notations software and the list goes on and on.

Just the many good and bad word processors for the C64 are worth mentioning:
https://www.c64-wiki.com/wiki/Word_Processor
(I think I was using StarTexter)
Yeah, those weren't WYSIWYG programs back in the day but if you liked these more you could also get the GEOS for your C64 and you have all sorts of WYSIWYG-oriented tools like GeoCalc for Spreadsheet.
https://www.c64-wiki.com/wiki/Spreadsheet

Yes, this wasn't MS Word, but Word was for these boring PC at the job and who would want to own one of those? I had to deal with both DOS Word and the early Win 3.1 Word and it was atrocious. And it's kinda sad that beside LibreOffice and it's derivates there aren't that much alternatives around like back in the day, when there wasn't a monopoly on stuff like that.

>> No.5271194

i had an st it was shit just like pcs and amigas at that time..
as soon as megadrive came out no one wanted to play this crap no more

>> No.5271205

>>5271192
>And it's kinda sad that beside LibreOffice and it's derivates there aren't that much alternatives around like back in the day, when there wasn't a monopoly on stuff like that.
Going off on a tangent here but is there anything lacking in the MS Word, Libre and Google Doc trinity we have currently? Variety is good but I'm not aware of any notable features that aren't covered among these 3.

>> No.5271207

>>5271192
/ot
>StarTexter
>Toni Schwaiger
All-round nice guy. Also worked on the creation of some successful German video game mags in the 80s and 90s.

>> No.5271270

>>5271192
Who needs Wysiwyg? Give me some LaTeX distribution for them.

>> No.5271326

>>5271192
>Who cares about the corporate world anyway?
You don't actually work in the computer/software industry, do you? Else you'd know that enterprise sales are where the vast majority of profits come from. Neckbeards who play CRPGs in their mom's basement alone can't support an industry.

>> No.5271338

>>5271326
Also why is he bringing up the C64? The discussion was the Amiga and its deficient library of office software which thus ensured it would never be more than a niche machine compared with PCs or Macs. There's a reason the Amiga didn't take over the world and it had everything to do with Bob from accounting going into the store, seeing one on display running that silly bouncing ball demo, and asking "Can that thing run Lotus 123?" and saying "Oh well, never mind." when he was told it couldn't.

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>>5271326
This.

>> No.5271361

>>5271338
It wasn't just that, it was the 640x200 display and inadequate hard disk support. Macs had super-sharp monochrome displays that were easy on the eyes. Workbench's blue and orange colors were not very pleasant to look at and the UI in general lacked the polish or attention to detail of the Mac OS.

>> No.5271376

>>5271192
>There's alway the argument, that there were no productivity software for the home computers
There was but it usually wasn't up to the standards of the big programs like WordPerfect. But those were also extremely expensive and out of most home users' price ranges.

>> No.5271396

Radio Shack sold a load of TRS-80s just to run Scripsit since it was almost the only semi-viable home computer word processor for a while.

>> No.5271512

>>5269583
Still not a platform you stupid, miserable cunt

>> No.5271524

>>5268434
Win 8.1 for me. Loved 7, liked what 8 brought to the table. Fuck 10. I have ISOs of old Windows down to XP for reinstalling eventualities.

>> No.5271539

>>5269608
>anon points out i'm retarded
>lol u asshurt

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>>5271338
>>5271376
To be fair my time with the home computers shaped my behaviour towards getting software for my personal needs vastly.

Getting the supposedly "big package" of commercial software never was or is my highest priority. Shelling out money for commercial software usually is my very last resort, if I don't find anything useful elsewhere and usually I regret doing this after just a short while.

Back then on the C64 I was used to getting my productivity software for free or cheap (beside piracy of course). On the Amiga it was even easier, since with the still existing Aminet there is a vast centralized library of (mostly free and always legal) software for everybodies needs.

And now I still think and act that way. When looking for new programs I alway look for Open Source first. I even noticed when breaking these rules of mine it usually backfires, like when I tried to get some software for hardware accelerated video encoding after dropping Handbrake, when they were dropping video formats I needed at the time. So I got some commercial tool accompanied by a small USB device for hardware accelerated encoding from Elgato. And boy was that Soft- + Hardware combination worse compared to the free and open source tools I was used to. The resulting videos looked worse even at much higher bitrates and the supported formats (and possibilities to filter/enhance videos) were even more limited than Handbrake... so I was getting more into FFmpeg and it's superior in every single way. Even the hardware accelerated encoding is faster.

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>>5266014
>Amiga
excuse me, it's name was the Commodore Screen Gems

>> No.5273275

>>5273235
Deepest lore

>> No.5273312

>>5269456
Nope. Try 68030 you fuckhead.

>> No.5273349

What are Americans like myself missing having never played an Amiga? I like CRPGs and strategy/wargames (I already know about Laser Squad and Amberstar/Ambermoon)

>> No.5273431

>>5271142
>90% of all 386 machines ever made used VGA.
AHAHaahahahAHAHAHAHahAHAHAHAHAHA they did fucking not. what a lying cunt.

>> No.5273446 [DELETED] 

>>5273312
PC retards just don't understand such things such as '030 or later. they don't like to be reminded how their machines were made to look lame as fuck compared to Amigas with accellerators and CPU upgrades. they have forever fucking hate it. they also hate the fact that lots of Amiga games were ported to the PC and not the other way around.

>> No.5273448

>>5273312
PC retards just don't understand such things such as '030 or later. they don't like to be reminded how their machines were made to look lame as fuck compared to Amigas with accellerators and CPU upgrades. they have forever fucking hated it. they also hate the fact that lots of Amiga games were ported to the PC and not the other way around.

>> No.5273703

>>5266014
DOS shareware was my gaming childhood.

>> No.5273843

>>5273448
This is a troll, right? Even with accelerators, the Amiga's architecture was a huge bottleneck especially with the AGA using planar graphics. By the time VESA appeared, Amiga was finished. Continuing to use planar graphics was a massive blunder.

>> No.5273846

>>5273349
>What are Americans like myself missing having never played an Amiga? I like CRPGs and strategy/wargames
You already had those on the Amiga, the only stuff you would have missed were some crummy Euro clones of console games.

>> No.5273850

>>5273448
>they have forever fucking hated it. they also hate the fact that lots of Amiga games were ported to the PC and not the other way around

The Amiga was rarely the primary target platform for anything. Usually it would get shitty copypasted Atari ST stuff and also shit PC ports like all those Sierra adventures that just copied the Tandy 1000 sound and graphics. By the 90s you had stuff like swapping 12 disks to play X-COM.

>> No.5273856

>>5273448
Good luck finding an accelerator anyway. Go into CompUSA in 1993 and ask for any Amiga stuff and you would probably be greeted with a blank stare.

>> No.5273871

>>5273856
>Go into CompUSA in 1993 and
Why do Americans do this and act like America is the entire planet?

>> No.5273886

>>5266014
Because there was nothing else out there worth buying.

>> No.5273891

>>5273850
I don't know why they even bothered with an OCS Amiga port of X-COM at all. The Amiga port of Colonization was AGA only if I remember correctly.

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>>5273871
In 1993, America was basically the entire computer industry in terms of innovation and units sold.

It’s the same reason Americans don’t know about popular Australian cars of the 60’s. It’s fucking irrelevant, a blip on the radar.

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>>5273909
>IBM AT
>1993
Only if you were a poorfag.

>> No.5273941

>>5273934
It was just a stock photo I found.

>> No.5273942

>>5273941
This.

>> No.5273958

PCs were going to take over inevitably anyway since anyone could manufacture them while Amiga used custom chips nobody could copy. Having 30 or more different manufacturers to purchase a PC from as opposed to one for Amiga was a significant thing.

>> No.5274243

>>5272775
>>5271192
>>5268473
>>5268420
Isn't avatarfagging against the rules or something?

>> No.5274260

>>5273909
>spend as much as $6000 on a computer that had weaker audiovisuals than your $300 C64

>> No.5274304

They don't call it PC Master Race for nothing.

Fuck Commodore.

>> No.5274353

>>5274260
It's like a sports coupe versus a panel van. The coup is small, nimble, and fun to drive but very impractical and has little cargo space. The van is huge, ponderous, and steers like a brick but has tons of room and can be configured for any work task.

>> No.5274367

>>5274304
>mimimimimimimimimimimi I'm gay

>> No.5274395

>>5273934
>>5273909
The funny part is PCs like that were cranked out by the millions yet there seems to be fewer surviving ones than there are many of the home computers from the 80s.

>> No.5274417

>>5274395
I suspect it's because of a huge amount of the things going to enterprise customers and they didn't tend to preserve the stuff that well, they usually junked it when it became outdated.

>> No.5274447

>>5273703
Mine as well, and I wouldn't trade that for anything.

>> No.5274459

>>5274417
You would be surprised at how many people simply view a computer as a tool for getting work done to be replaced when it gets out of date and don't have any interest in the history or technology or preserving anything for future generations.

>> No.5274847

>>5274395
i should have kept all my old stuff, I just assumed that anything with sub nes graphics was not worth keeping and that new computers could run all programs anyway. I was wrong, the old ega 286's have an unique experience that you can't have on a pentium. I had a heap of 486's but because quake went slow i threw them out.

>> No.5274910
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>>5273958
>reality

>> No.5275028
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>>5266058
>wordperfect

that takes me back,I've actually been using it recently because my dell laptop didn't come with ANY writing program installed at all despite buying it refurbished for 80$

>> No.5277696

>>5271512
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DOS#Software
>DOS was the dominant PC-compatible platform and many notable programs were written for it.

btfo yet again

>> No.5277708

>>5266572
>Please insert disk #11
>Software Failure. Press left mouse button to continue.

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>>5277696
>wikipedia

>> No.5277715

>>5277712
As opposed to what, booters?

>> No.5277721

>>5277712
as opposed to people who are not lying history-revisionist turbo kikes and buttblasted autistic neckbeards

>> No.5277742

>>5277715
On IBM-compatibles it has to be distinguished from booters. The bigger issue is that MS-DOS wasn't restricted to IBM-compatibles.

>> No.5277775

>>5277742
That's irrelevant to its dominance of the IBM platform.

>> No.5277829

>>5277775
No it's not. The PC-98 in particular was dominant in its own way and often when you see people talk about MS-DOS they actually mean the PC-98.

>> No.5277847

>>5277829
Nobody but weebs does that though.

>> No.5277861

>>5277847
Where do you think you are?

>> No.5277864

>>5266014
Depends on the year. You know Dos sucked ass in the mid to late 80's right?

>> No.5277872

>>5266153
bait

>> No.5277878

>>5267126
That's why you were supposed to make back ups/

>> No.5277879

>>5277872
Zoomer get out

>> No.5277886

>>5274395
People just throw the stuff out. They don't want it. That's way I have an entire room filled floor to ceiling with old towers I've found, purchased for five dollars or were just givin to me.

Why I've purchased a few 486 systems on ebay for 60 to 100 dollars a pop is beyond me, but they weren't bad deals.

One was even a 1993 system that was upgraded to a Socket 7. It's still a pretty nice system. In fact that one is the one I've given the most attention to so far. I've got a Socket 5 System that needs it's Battery/Clock replaced but I haven't bothered to take the motherboard out so I can desolder the old one yet. Won't boot until I do either, but It came with a really nice Hercules Tseng PCI Video Card that's worth more than what I payed for the whole thing.

>> No.5277892

>>5277829
Except they don't. They call it PC-98 because the the lack of cross-compatibility ties everything to the hardware platform and the OS it's running is completely secondary.

>> No.5277897
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5277897

Amiga shaped my career. I was rocking the VT/Flyer combo in an A4000 while PC simpletons tried to figure out how to program their VCRs.

- part of the MTV generation

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TT-b08IVnr8

>> No.5277910

>>5277897
Man I'd love to have a 4000. All my 1200's and my 600 need recapped. Not confidant enough to do it my self yet.

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>> No.5277932
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>>5277915
>LCD monitor

>> No.5279106

IBM PC > Atari ST > Apple II > shit > Amiga

>> No.5279137

>>5279106
Shit > reddit > tumblr > (You)

>> No.5279150

Why were Britcuck and Euro computers in general so shitty?

>b-but muh zed-ecks specky

>> No.5279163

>>5279150
Why do Amerilards suffer from so much unwarranted self-importance?

See. So many questions, no answers.

>> No.5279315

>>5279163
Because we have the right to be, because we're T H E B E S T.

>> No.5279328

>>5279315
The best at being only 56% white, maybe.

>> No.5279346

Doom

>> No.5279369

>>5279150
Nobody could match the US for budget and R&D capabilities.

>> No.5279398

>>5279369
...and now you and most western countries stagnate, because of other, more pressing issues (read: social bullshit) while emerging powers slowly eat away your empire.

>> No.5279407

>>5279398
and that's a good thing

>> No.5279543

>>5279328
>American computer manufacturers regularly trounced European ones even in European markets
>"ur not white lmao"
cringe

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>>5266014
Definitely MS-DOS

>> No.5279635

>>5268507
>DX9 and XP are the same
Holy shit, somebody needs to get a tire iron and knock your brains out of your head

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>>5279567
>scrolling platformer on a PC
>made by Titus

>> No.5279854

>>5279407
MarxistFaggot

>> No.5282323

>>5279854
lol, jebaited

>> No.5284289

>>5266014
>autoexec.bat
>config.sys
>himem.sys
hard pass