/vr/ - Retro Games

[Anonymous No.5265304]

Can you still get enjoyment out of Gen 1?

[Anonymous No.5265309]

>>5265304
only if you're a manchild

[Anonymous No.5265338]

Only gen 2 onwards is playable.

[Anonymous No.5265339]

Yes

[Anonymous No.5265357]

>>5265304
Of course. Gen 1 is pure. No gimmicks. Forever flawless.

[Anonymous No.5265358]

>>5265304
I replayed it a couple years ago, enjoyed it more than I expected. The dungeons and map design are more interesting than the most recent games I think. If you like old RPGs you'll probably have fun with it still. Pokemon Stadium is great too, so you can have fun with that definitely. It gives a nice post-game experience after playing the Game Boy games.

For multiplayer, you're probably not going to have much luck finding people to play with using a link cable. There's still people who battle online using simulators though if you ever want to try that.
Even though the game is unbalanced and most teams have the same top pokemon, battling other people can be more fun that you'd expect. I prefer it over Gen 2 in that regard.

[Anonymous No.5265417]

I don't really get enjoyment out of anything these days.

[Anonymous No.5265436]

Currently playing Pokemon Green as I never tried it before, I am enjoying it mostly because of the sprites. You may want to check out the rom hacks, they surprisingly bring out new flavors, I like it very much.

[Anonymous No.5265441]

Oh boy, this is going to be zoomer: the thread.

[Anonymous No.5265461]

>>5265304
It's the only one I can still get enjoyment out of. Gen 2 is okay but not as good. Gen 3 and beyond suck ass.

[Anonymous No.5265478]

>>5265304
Yeah unless you are one of those autists that are concerned about competitive balance in a game that is mostly single player and that being the main attraction of the game.

[Anonymous No.5265482]

Gen 2 is lifeless compared to gen 1 imo. The towns have no character the opponents and encounters feel generic and soulless.

Going back through the original region in gen 2 just feels like a tacky add on

[Anonymous No.5265484]

>>5265304
Yes, playing through Blue right now with the n64 transfer pak. I am taking advantage of the Dodrio GameBoy when things get tedious.

[Anonymous No.5265509]

>>5265441
Oh boy, this is going to be dumbass buzzword: the comment

[Anonymous No.5265515]

>>5265304
Not sure, I probably could with loads of turbo abuse. I only ever played Yellow back in the days and my patience was golden back then. Nowadays if there's slow ass animations and everything takes forever then I'm out.

[Anonymous No.5265530]

>>5265304
Yes. It's a simple and fun game that I know inside and out. Randomizers add new life to it. The whole series does not really hold up as a mechanically sound RPG but playing this and Silver give me enough of a zoomer nostalgia fix that I can play them.
>>5265309
Also this.

[Anonymous No.5265532]

>>5265530
>zoomer nostalgia
Sorry, meant millennial nostalgia, got my buzzwords mixed up.

[Anonymous No.5265546]

>>5265304
Not retro, but the GBA versions are the earliest I can still enjoy properly

[Anonymous No.5265554]

>>5265546
>GBA version
0 soul.

[Anonymous No.5265559]

Yep.
I still haven't beat all of Round 2 on Stadium 1 (and I want to unlock the surf pikachu, which requires beating the major cup without losing any monster), and then I have Stadium 2.

[Anonymous No.5265568]

>>5265304
its dated badly but for its time playing this on the gameboy which was like mid 80s tech but the game was popular in like 1998 or some shit? was amazing

get a old gameboy,get blue or red (yellow if you can its more inline with the cartoon) and live an experience anon

there is a reason its still talked about yet big 3d games such as haze for example are not.

[Anonymous No.5265712]

>>5265417
I know how you feel. Hug me, bro.

[Anonymous No.5265720]

>>5265304
Yeah, but I'm a lot more goal-oriented when I play it now. I just can't wander around aimlessly in games anymore. Also, Gen II holds up the worst simply for the fact of how goddamn easy and trivial everything is. At least there are some sharper level curves in RBY but GSC is just sad.

[Anonymous No.5265763]

>>5265720
the dogs make things slightly interesting. If only the gen 1 gyms were more difficult when you reach them. Otherwise, it seems like everything after gen 1 is just a glorified theme park

[Anonymous No.5265772]

>>5265417

[Anonymous No.5265789]

Gen 1 & 2 are the best ones.

[Anonymous No.5265796]

>>5265436
>I am enjoying it mostly because of the sprites
I'm currently playing through a Red romhack that uses the Graphics from the space world demo and it's the same here. Seeing that weird mixture of gen 1, 2 and unique sprites is quite interesting.
Gen 1 is definitely still playable.

[Anonymous No.5265841]

>>5265304
original gen 1 is pure boomer nostalgia, there is literally 0 reason to play it over the gba remake

[Anonymous No.5266260]

>>5265304
Yeah, the other games take too long to get going

[Anonymous No.5266345]

>>5265841
Why should I buy a remake of an already excellent game that I already own?

[Anonymous No.5266512]

>>5265417
Same bro.

[Anonymous No.5266518]

>>5265841
Can't transfer your mons from GBA over to Stadium.

[Anonymous No.5266523]

>>5266518
Can't transfer your mons from GB to almost every future game.

[Anonymous No.5266526]

>>5266523
That's fine, they never made another Stadium game. The fuckers.

[Anonymous No.5266531]

>>5265338
>Only gen 2 is playable
Fixed

[Anonymous No.5266532]

>>5266526
They have, but it's not gen 1 or 2 and not called stadium so you'll say it's shit.

[Anonymous No.5266552]

I like it better with the GBC palette hacks, but still better than the out and out GBA remakes.

[Anonymous No.5266560]

>>5266532
>and not called Stadium
So they're not Stadium games? I'm assuming you mean Colosseum? I admit I've never played it. It's any good?

[Anonymous No.5266597]

>>5266560
There's Colosseum and Gale of Darkness. I thought they were good, they have story modes which is like a shorter version of the main games. It focuses on double battles and use a lot of gen 2 pokemon, which were mostly absent in gen 3. And there are battle sim modes that are separate from the story mode.

There's also Battle Revolution on the Wii. I haven't played it yet, but I heard it's just battles. No extras like the earlier games.

[Anonymous No.5267141]

>>5265304
absolutely

[Anonymous No.5267146]

>>5265304
Nope. Each gen, heck, each game is a one and done - move on to the next thing. Going backwards only leads to annoyance of how much is missing, be it QOL stuff or content in general.

[Anonymous No.5267318]

>>5265304
On hardware, yes. On emulation, BOI IF YOU DON'-

[Anonymous No.5267320]

>>5265304
Gen. 1 is the only one worth playing

[Anonymous No.5267323]

>>5265568
>dated
post discarded

[Anonymous No.5267327]

>>5267146
>QOL
Um, please use the phrase "casualization" instead of "QOL" thanks. Use the proper terminology.

[Anonymous No.5267338]

>>5265304
Sure, it's probably the best turn-based RPG on the original Gameboy, unless you are really into some of the Wizardry Gaiden titles.

People attach this mystique to Pokemon to the point that I don't think people realize that they have kind of mentally detached them from other RPGs and made them an institution with their own set of expectations. People will bitch and moan all day about stuff that only matters if you already care about Pokemon, meanwhile something like SaGa 2 gets remembered in a vaguely fond way, but nobody goes into a SaGa thread slinging shit over how the enemy design or pacing changed between installments.

[Anonymous No.5267370]

>>5265417
Have you tried understanding or creating things along the lines of what you used to enjoy?

[Anonymous No.5267447]

>>5267327
when something grindy, repetitive, and/or boring that doesn't take skill is removed, that's QoL. only autists want shit like consumable TMs.

[Anonymous No.5267461]

>>5267447
>when something grindy, repetitive, and/or boring that doesn't take skill is removed, that's QoL
No, removal of that is called casualization, making the game friendlier for casuals who just want the path of least resistance to finishing the game.

[Anonymous No.5267525]

>>5265796
What is the name of the romhack it sounds amazing

[Anonymous No.5267526]

>>5267318
I like doing nuzlocke runs with higher speeds on the older gens. I just dont have the time to carefully grind

[Anonymous No.5267558]

>>5265304
Probably, but only because it's been years since I played any pokemons

[Anonymous No.5267979]

>>5267525
https://github.com/Rangi42/redstarbluestar

[Anonymous No.5268090]

>>5267979
Bro thank you

[Anonymous No.5268174]

>>5267327
Being able to see a moves Type & Power is casualization? Quick jumps through PC Boxes and not having to save each time you switch, along with darg & drop mass pokemon movement is casualization? Having the EXP bar fill up more than a frame a second post-battle is casualization? No longer needing to go through three menus to use an HM is casualization? Having the last Item you used in battle remembered for quick reuse is casualization?

[Anonymous No.5268258]

>>5265304
Of course. I just replayed gen 1 a few weeks back. Completed the dex, too.

>>5265338
Replayed gen 2 shortly after gen 1. GSC are very, very poorly designed. RGBY had its faults too, but they were mechanical, not fundamental donkey brain design choices.

[Anonymous No.5268268]

>>5265441
Do you mean people complaining about non-existent zoomers: the thread? Oh I forgot, that's all of /vr/.

[Anonymous No.5268362]

>>5268258
>fundamental donkey brain design choices
Care to elaborate on this?

[Anonymous No.5268364]

>>5265417
Based

[Anonymous No.5268372]

>>5265304
I personally really like how many super early pokemon can easily be brought to face the Elite 4. I feel like in Gen2 most of the early catches are surprisingly shitty once leveled up. Gen2 early bugs are straight worse than their Gen1 counterparts. The early birds and rodent lines are better in gen1 too. Even the exact same pokemon from gen1 to gen2 is worse, Rattata lost its amazing crit rate so it still suffers heavy falloff after a point. They tried to rectify their mistakes in Gen3 but it wasn't as good. Eventually they went in hard with early catches giving you obscenely powerful pokemon early off in later gens. Gen1 did it best completely by accident and enabled by glitches.

[Anonymous No.5268727]

>>5268362
TL;DR: The games were designed to be RGBY sequels first and foremost, and the new Pokemon take a backseat as a result.

>Pokemon that are less common than they should be
In Johto's encounter tables, Rattata is found 245 times. Sentret? 6 times. Generally, Kanto Pokemon flood every area while Johto Pokemon, if present, are very rare. Corsola, Chinchou, Qwilfish, and Remoraid all need to be fished up despite there being a wide-open ocean that could have housed them - instead it has Tentacool, like every other body of water.

>Pokemon that arrive too late
In Gold and Silver, you aren't getting Phanpy, Skarmory, or Gligar until after Blackthorn City. You aren't getting Slugma, Murkrow, or Houndour until you reach Celadon City. You aren't getting Larvitar, Sneasel, or Misdreavus until Mt. Silver, the very end of the game. And if you aren't lucky enough to get a swarm, then Qwilfish and Remoraid need the Super Rod from Kanto.

>lack of exposure for new Pokemon
Look at the gym leaders.
Falkner uses Pidgey and Pidgeotto. Could have had Natu and Hoothoot, so the player can know Natu is a thing.
Bugsy uses Metapod, Kakuna, and Scyther. Could have had Pineco, Yanma, or Heracross, since these are each very rare bug Pokemon that would be nice to learn about. Nobody else in the game uses Heracross.
Morty uses two Haunters, in addition to his Gastly and Gengar. He could have had a Misdreavus, since nobody else in the game does.
Jasmine has Steelix, but also two Magneton. Having Skarmory or Scizor would have been nice, since nobody else in the game uses either.
Pryce has Seel, Dewgong, and Piloswine. Why not swap out Seel for Sneasel or Delibird?

[Anonymous No.5268743]

>>5268727
Oh, also
>time of day impacts accessibility
Matutinal, diurnal, and nocturnal Pokemon is a good idea on paper. In practice, it means you could be waiting half a day or more to encounter a Pokemon you want. I remember when I was completing the GSC dex, the last thing I needed was Sunkern, but oh shucks, it's past 6 pm. I had to wait until 10 am the next day to get one.

>Poke Gear calls suck
In order to get certain encounters or trainer rematches at all, you need to register names in your phone. Problem is, with Mom, Prof. Elm, and Bill in your phone, you have seven slots for numbers. There are 28 trainers you can save numbers for. And even if you have the ones you need saved, they will call you near-constantly, but never for anything actually relevant. If you want Qwilfish or Remoraid before Kanto, you have to inconvenience yourself and make the game have periodic pace-breaking phone calls just for a chance at having a chance to encounter one.

[Anonymous No.5268772]

>>5268258
>Replayed gen 2 shortly after gen 1. GSC are very, very poorly designed
Holy shit genwunners truly are delusional Gen 1 has so many bad design choices or just outright bugs you would have your rose tinted glasses so far up your ass they are coming out your eyeballs to call Gen 2 poorly designed while praising Gen 1.
>Menu's are slow and clunky to navigate
I sure love needing to go through 2 menus and a confirm screen every single time I want to use my bike instead of just pressing select.
>Inventory system is inferior in every way to Gen 2's
>No move deleter so HM slaves are pretty much required for any HM but surf unless you want to waste a move slot
>Moves like focus energy that outright do not work
>Psychic types being broken and have effectively no weakness
>Special as one stat making Psychic types even more powerful
>Gen 1 miss bug means nothing is a 100% hit
>Crit tied to speed
>Crits can actually do less damage because they negate boosts
>Many types have terrible selection of moves
In b4
>B-but many of those only affect competitive play
Doesn't change the fact they are poorly designed and fundamentally broken but you just entirely overlook all the shit Gen 1 is guilty of because "muh kanto" "muh gen wun". Gen 2 is not perfect either but Gen 1 has a hell of a lot more wrong with it then Gen 2.

> I remember when I was completing the GSC dex, the last thing I needed was Sunkern, but oh shucks, it's past 6 pm. I had to wait until 10 am the next day to get one.
But needing to play Gen 1 3 times up until you get Eevee because of the lack of breeding wasn't annoying?

[Anonymous No.5268815]

>>5268772
Half of these aren't issues in design, but unintended bugs (which are issues of implementation, not design) or things that were improved in a future game (which does not mean they were bad in the first place).

>Gen 2 is not perfect either but Gen 1 has a hell of a lot more wrong with it then Gen 2.
No, because while I had to play the games concurrently to make sure the dex in each of the four games was complete, I at least encountered almost every single Pokemon before the game was over.

>But needing to play Gen 1 3 times up until you get Eevee because of the lack of breeding wasn't annoying?
You need to play Red until you reach Power Plant and Green until you reach the Pokemon Mansion as-is. And it's sensible to play through Blue and Yellow as well, due to wild Pokemon they have. In completing the gen 1 dex, I played all four games.

[Anonymous No.5268864]

>>5268727
Very informative. Thanks for the write-up anon,

[Anonymous No.5268893]

>>5268864
No problem. I still enjoyed playing GSC, even if I think they were poorly designed. Really, it's just because they're designed as sequels to RGBY rather than their own games, I think.

[Anonymous No.5268908]

>>5265304

remember twitch plays Pokemon? remember the political system and shit that it created? was a lot of fun

[Anonymous No.5268937]

>>5265304
Best one to speedrun.

[Anonymous No.5269018]

>>5265304
No, that would imply that Pokémon is a good franchise or that Gamefreak is a somewhat competent developer studio.

[Anonymous No.5269039]

Gotta get that Squirtle squad.

[Anonymous No.5269046]

>>5266597
I liked Battle Revolution a lot. Even if you had to own DPPt to get the most out of it, the battles looked so damn good. The OST is also very good and I also liked the overall atmosphere of the game. If only wifi still worked on wii for online battles. Sigh.

[Anonymous No.5269098]

>>5265841
What if I have ears__

[Anonymous No.5269129]

>>5265357
this. how can you enjoy anything but gen 1?

[Anonymous No.5269191]

>>5268893
>they're designed as sequels to RGBY rather than their own games
If they overly rely on G1 pokemon, wouldn't they rather be trying to be replacements of G1 than sequels?

[Anonymous No.5269289]

>>5269191
That would be FR/LG

[Anonymous No.5269357]

I have never played a Pokemon game, if I was going to only play one which should it be? I will play whatever the hive mind decides.

[Anonymous No.5269372]

>>5269357
Blue, because it has Meowth.

[Anonymous No.5269412]

>>5269372
The internet told me this is gen 1, which is cool. I'm still trying to figure out the difference between the different color versions.

[Anonymous No.5269497]

>>5269412
Yellow or gtfo.

[Anonymous No.5269509]

>>5269357
Crystal or Fire Red
only Pokemon games that matter
don’t listen to anyone saying otherwise

[Anonymous No.5269512]

>>5269412
Pokemon availability. Some are in Red that aren't in Blue and vice versa.

[Anonymous No.5269529]

>>5267370
not him, but that's actually what made me stop enjoying things

[Anonymous No.5269662]

>>5269357
Crystal is overwhelmingly the best, although Soulsilver/Heartgold are a lot of fun if you want something newer

[Anonymous No.5269861]

genwunners: the thread

[Anonymous No.5269935]

>>5269191
No. The intent seems to have been that, since kids knew all 151 Pokemon already, they'd make the new 100 way harder to find, to make the player really work for them. It's the only logical explanation for why so many aren't used by any trainers and are stuck as 1% encounters in out-of-the-way areas.

[Anonymous No.5269952]

>>5265417
>>5269529
>>5265441
>>5265309
>>5265712
>>5269018
>>5269861
Absolutely pathetic. Back to /v/eddit.

[Anonymous No.5269964]

>>5269497
Yellow sucks ass, my dude

[Anonymous No.5270056]

>>5265482
Map design was never the Pokemon series strong suit imho. All routes are straight lines or zig-zag patterns, all dungeons are hedge mazes and all the towns have basially the same layout. The only thing that "improves" in each generation is that the routes get longer, the dungeons get shorter and the towns get more unique roof tiles. I like Hoenn the best, and only because of Fortree, Pacifidlog and Sootopolis.

[Anonymous No.5270861]

>>5269952
>defending a studio that has never been able to do proper balance or deliver an enjoyable story

STOP gobbling gook cook, filthy weeb. Post your Let's Go Eevee recipient so we all can laugh at you.

[Anonymous No.5272478]

Totally playable and enjoyable. Hell, it’s the basis for Pokemon Let’s Go. But yellow is the superior of gen 1.

[Anonymous No.5272484]

>>5265304
yeah it's one of the few pokemon games to feature actual dungeons

[Anonymous No.5272487]

>>5269098
assuming they work you shouldn't be playing any gameboy or gameboy color game

[Anonymous No.5272492]

>>5269357
seconding Crystal
>improved graphics over g/s
>battle tower
>animated sprites that aren't just squishes and rotations
>expanded suicune subplot
>cute little signs when entering routes or towns
>morning/day/night cycle
>breeding/happiness
>day-specific events
>poke-gear has cool shit like radio and phones
>backtrack into kanto, even if it's barebones
>not quite HM bloat yet
>some cool postgame events I don't wanna spoil, jic

aside from the weird level scaling, game limitations that keep kanto from being more fleshed out, and the fact that you can't get lugia or ho-oh's signature moves, crystal is one of the peaks of the series.

[Anonymous No.5272497]

>>5272487
wow anon you have some nerve, johto's trainer battle theme is some good shit

[Anonymous No.5272518]

>>5272478
no, yellow does not have raichu! therefore its not as food as r/b/g

[Anonymous No.5272537]

>>5269357

[Anonymous No.5272591]

>>5265304
I tried playing Ultra Moon today and it's literally unplayable. Soooo shit

[Anonymous No.5272595]

>>5272492
Silver was my fav!

[Anonymous No.5272639]

Yes, but I have to fast-forward my emulator to 2x speed.

[Anonymous No.5273725]

>>5265309
manchildren play LGPE my friend

[Anonymous No.5274127]

>>5265304
yes it's fun because you can exploit things.
>poison is weak to bug so beeedrill (or pin needle) is fun.
>psychic is op, ghost is NE because of a glitch
>blizzard has 90% accuracy
>crit hit is based on speed
>hyper doesn't have to recharge if you KO an enemy.

[Anonymous No.5274869]

>>5274127
How easily amused are you that these kinds of things are still fun after repeated playthroughs?

[Anonymous No.5274886]

>>5274869
At least it's better than being a cynical bitch that goes around telling people how they should have their fun.

[Anonymous No.5275000]

>>5265304
Sorry I play good games like Robopon.

[Anonymous No.5275059]

Never
Gen 1 was pure dogshit
Gold and Silver were dogshit
Games didnt get good until Crystal
Yellow was dogshit aswell

[Anonymous No.5275063]

I'm enjoying playing Blue despite my first game being Crystal. I'm grinding a nice level 100 lineup before continuing to gen 2.

[Anonymous No.5275161]

>>5268174
Yes. A proper game requires at least 5MenuActionsPerSecond and has a 45% chance to corrupt your save, Casual zoomer.

[Anonymous No.5275185]

>>5265304
Not anymore to be honest. Unless using glitches heavily, it's kind of fun to break the fabric of reality like a motherfucker and get pokemon made out of map data or something.
Gen2 I can still enjoy at times, though.

[Anonymous No.5275229]

>>5275059
Crystal is literally the same as Gold and Silver

[Anonymous No.5275237]

>>5275185
this. If you grew up on Gen 1, but have never done the Item underflow glitch where you can access RAM and swap data around as if items, then you need to try it. It takes like 20-40 minutes average if you play modestly but follow instructions. As children, EVERYBODY knew about missingno, but boy if we didn't already have gameshark, THAT glitch could have turn a child into a god.

[Anonymous No.5275249]

>>5268743
>time of day impacts accessibility
I always liked this and hated gen 3 for removing it despite being objectively the best gen otherwise.

>>5269357
>>5269412
FireRed or LeafGreen, or crystal. Avoid gen 1 at all costs.

[Anonymous No.5275272]

>>5268727
>Phanpy
at least in crystal you have a 5% chance of finding it (in the morning only) if you stay in some irrelevant area, isn't that great?

[Anonymous No.5276254]

>>5274869
I didn't say it lasts forever

[Anonymous No.5276264]

>>5272639
>not playing on GB Tower with dodrio speed

[Anonymous No.5276271]

>>5268727
I honestly thought skarmory was a gen 3 pokemon

[Anonymous No.5276568]

>>5276264

[Anonymous No.5276626]

I like it, but I won't say it's not largely due to nostalgia. As a kid I couldn't comprehend RPGs for the most part but Pokemon was something I just got because I was so into the whole franchise, these days there are tons of JRPGs I would rather play but G1 Pokemon has a special place in my heart compared to G2, which was the last gen I played.

G1 always felt a little strange to me, the sprites didn't look right, as a kid certain parts of it creeped me out, and the various myths about the game that circulated always lent a feeling that there was always something hidden in the game, something obscure and esoteric about it. Playing it every few years or so takes me back to these feelings, later Pokemon games are probably better games technically and visually but for me personally they'll never have that unique charm. I remember as a kid one of my main obsessions was that I was waiting for the day the true origin of Pokemon would be revealed, were they all space aliens? What role did genetic experimentation play overall? These were things I thought would sort of come to a climax, but by the third gen I realizd there would be no greater story and that the series would just be recycled over and over and I lost interest

[Anonymous No.5276949]

>>5269357
Do you like A E S T H E T I C S?
If you said yes, play Red, Blue or Yellow.

If you read any post that says "genwunner" disregard them completely.

[Anonymous No.5276963]

>>5276626
THIS
every word

Also the part about missing climax is true. There are so many missing answers.

[Anonymous No.5276974]

>>5265304
I can purely with nostalgia goggles

[Anonymous No.5277052]

>>5276963
they are digital pets. Pokemon, along with many other "pocket monster" type series seemed to grow out of the mid to late 90's, where digital pets such as tamogatchi were wildly popular.

They may be "wild" when you encounter them, but you store them digitally in pokeballs and computers. You teach them moves with Technical Machines, which in later generations are depicted as floppy discs. IMO, it seems like they were originally meant to be some kind of digital pet.

[Anonymous No.5277073]

>>5265304
I know too many exploits, that I'd have trouble choosing broken weak pokemon I like vs unbalanced wrap fuckers that I dont care for. I'd still have fun tho just from nostalgia

[Anonymous No.5278376]

Of course. It's a classic for a reason.

[Anonymous No.5278437]

I'm a bit tired of Gen 1 now, but thats only due to replaying it so much. One thing I loved is how open and non-linear it is. Once you get to Celadon you can face the next 3 gyms at about order you want. You have some leeway once you beat the game corner and go through Pokemon tower. Most of the Pokedex is available for you to catch at that point, with the Safari Zone and fishing rods, and you have two massive routes(between Lavender Town and Fushia, and the bike route, plus Silph Co) for which you can grind up your team naturally.

Where as, in a lot of the games after until Gen 4 or so, you were tied up in Pokemon distribution unless you got friends to trade. Grinding in Gen 2 if you want to add one of those cool new pokemon you find after 8 badges is a total chore and just not worth it. A feel like Gen 2 started a slippery slope of making the single player mode just a vehicle for competitive battling.