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http://psgamenews.net/1218
>Due to an amendment in December 2018 of the Unfair Competition Prevention Act in Japan, certain gaming-related activities and services have now been declared illegal. This includes:
>Distribution of tools and programs for modifying game saves
ng product keys and serials online without the software maker's permission
>Game save and console modding services
This also covers retro modding. All of Cybergadget's products were immediately discontinued following the news, including the cart converter for retro games

Is this the end of times?

>> No.5264475
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5264475

>>5264464
Today is not April 1st, right?

>> No.5264479

How big was modding in japan? I thought most of it was done in north america or europe, but what do I know

>> No.5264483

>>5264464
Based Nintendo

>> No.5264528

>>5264479
Pretty healthy in japan, as long as you're not distributing games illegally they're good. Expect a shit ton of Japanese game shops to get impacted along with specialty modding groups to shut down so they don't deal with the potential shit storm. It's sad and might drive some hardcore dedicated folks to leave elsewhere. Changing a fucking hex file or patching a game with a different texture is now illegal. It's such a mess and most likely no one will speak due to sbmissiveness

>> No.5264530

>>5264479
I remember seeing a surprisingly large amount of Japanese oblivion mods but otherwise im not too sure

>> No.5264545

>>5264528
Read the article. Modifying isn't illegal, distributing tools that modify games are.

>> No.5264548

>>5264464
A loss for democracy. Surely the Japanese people do not support this?

>> No.5264551

>>5264545
Then how does it change anything? Modchips have always been illegal.

>> No.5264578

>>5264551
It is banning Game Genie, Action Replay etc devices designed to manipulated save games and software that does the same.
I expect hex editors are fine since they have other uses.
The reason is sociaga and other plagues. Why spent ten thousands of yen in digital content when you could just modify your data to get the same results?

>> No.5264609

>>5264551
>Modchips have always been illegal.
Everywhere? Nah.

>> No.5264628

>>5264545
Why not just have someone in the US or elsewhere host mod tools and download them from there if mods themselves aren't illegal?

>> No.5264639

>>5264628
Why are you so fixated on the idea of a modding ban? I'm not reading anything regarding tools that modify the games themselves, only modifying the save data. It's clearly more about cheating than about modding.

>> No.5264657

>>5264545
I suspect they're just kinda used to this sort of controlling shit from game companies.

>> No.5264794

>>5264548
Liberty is an Anglo concept, whereas Asians are an insidious, insect like race. They have no such values, their mindset is completely alien to yours and mine.

>> No.5264867

>>5264548
They probably don't but there's fuckall that companies that manufacture these tools can do about it. Because there's no way the larger Japanese video game companies didn't funnel some money into this shit.

>> No.5265068

cant be enforced
nothing will change

>> No.5265072

>>5264528
>patching a game with a different texture is now illegal
Why are you lying

>> No.5265081

>>5264794
PC SJW etc. faggots might reeee, but it's true. It's the same reason you never see Chinese abroad complaining about human rights, Tienanmen square, one child policy, etc.

The Chinese don't fucking care. AT ALL. They could safely talk shit about it in the US or Canada, but they don't. It's always WESTERNERS that complain about those things.

Americans and Europeans care more about the freedom of the Chinese people than they do.

>> No.5265103 [DELETED] 

>>5265081
>you never see Chinese abroad complaining about human rights, Tienanmen square, one child policy, etc.
Maybe because those same policies helped modernize their country and turned it into an economical super power?

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5265104

I can't believe that pedophile porn is still legal but editing a memory card file is not. What the fuck, Japan?

>> No.5265105

>>5264464
Good. Buy more new products and help the economy. It's every citizens' holy duty.

>> No.5265108

>>5265104
Except it's not.

>> No.5265110

>>5265104
Those girls look like your average western 18 year olds to me.

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The end of Kaizo romhacks.

>> No.5265114 [DELETED] 

>>5265110
I'm sure the cops will buy that

>> No.5265117

>>5264479
There's a video of weird mods for GTR2 made by Japanese players. Also, Assetto Corsa modding is gaining popularity thanks to JDMfags there.
t./ovg/
>>5265072
Long term, it will could be that. Local 3D erogefags (like CM3D2) and PC simfags will equally seethe.

>> No.5265119

Easy, you just offer the tools as intended for something else.

Its like trying to ban wrenches because people use them to modify an engine.

>> No.5265128

>>5265081
That's Communism for you. It sucks out your soul.

>> No.5265187

>>5265103
Yeah, of course, the Chinese are the exception, but other Asians are totally pro-freedom and pro-Western ideals, except the Chinese. Oh and the Japanese. And Koreans. And Indians, Thais, Cambodians, Burmese, the entirety of muslims in Asia and everywhere else in the world, etc.

Yeah, other than that, they're all ardent defenders of individuality and freedom. All 12 of them.

>> No.5265206 [DELETED] 

>>5265187
I wasn't talking about your shitty freedom, I'm defending the undeniable progress and improvements that the Mao regiment brought to the Chinese society.

>> No.5265236

>>5265187
>>5265187
I wasn't talking about your shitty freedom, I'm defending the undeniable progress and improvements that the Mao regiment brought to the Chinese society.

>> No.5265921

I can't believe that pedophile porn is still legal but editing a memory card file is not. What the fuck, Japan?

>> No.5265970

>>5265128

Communism has nothing to do with the Chinese spirit. The Chinese were pretty much the same 200 years ago.

>> No.5265991

This ruined my day.

>> No.5266005

>>5265236
>I'm defending the undeniable progress and improvements that the Mao regiment brought to the Chinese society.

15 renminbin have been added to your account. Have a nice day. :^)

>> No.5266007

>>5266005
Not an argument. Go get yourself educated.

>> No.5266026

>>5265970
Even though a ton of people died during the Great Leap Forward, he's right, a massive amount of technological and agricultural progress was made during the period. It's sad and bittersweet, but denying that progress is being willfully obtuse

>> No.5266032

>>5266026
Meant for >>5266005

>> No.5266064

>>5264464
This only outlaws the distribution of save editors, serial keys, and services for console modding. You can still mod consoles and game saves yourself, and regular game modding is still fine. Keygens are ironically unaffected, however most games these days rely of disc checks or online authentication.

>> No.5266083

>>5265236
I mean declaring war on sparrows might seem retarded but on the bright side it did cause countless Chinese people to die

>> No.5266105

>>5264464
if you rely on modding save files you didnt really like the game

>> No.5266183
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>>5266083
Another example of his regimes pig headed incompetence is seen in Mao instituting a plan to increase steel production in China by building furnaces in people's backyards and forcing them to melt down their farming tools and use their firewood for fuel, leading hundreds of thousands of people to starve and freeze to death, all to make useless lumps of pig iron.
It never occurred to him to ask a steel miller or a blacksmith if this would work, and peasants who tried to tell him it wouldn't were dismissed as 'intellectuals'. For knowing how to make fucking steel. When, after a year, he took a tour of a steel mill and realised that the backyard furnaces were useless, he kept the program going for another year because he was embarrassed.
Imagine being forced at gunpoint to throw your last chunk of firewood into this useless black box where your crops used to grow, and when you get nothing for it but little grey chunks of carbon, you think "Hey okay it's not the end of the world, I can maybe take this to the village blacksmith and he can forge out the impurities and make an axe or something". But then your heart sinks as you see a well fed-gaggle of soldiers cart off the fruit of your destruction to dump it in a massive hole in the woods. When you try to protest, the soldiers reply "YOU KNOW HOW MAKE IRON? YOU BIG SMAHT INTERECTURAR?" and shoot you in the face.

In the end China progressed DESPITE Mao, not because of him. Generalissimo Chaing Kai Shek tried to warn us and we didn't listen.

>> No.5266209

>>5266183
Still a better fate than Japan.

>> No.5266230

>>5266183
>Generalissimo Chaing Kai Shek tried to warn us and we didn't listen.
Based KMT.

>> No.5266249
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5266249

>>5266209
Life in Japan's workaholic culture is stressful as fuck but it's better than starving to death because some dumbass decided DUDE JUST KILL ALL SPARROWS LMAO

>> No.5266301

>>5266083
>>5266249
Why sparrows?

>> No.5266310

>>5266301
chink austism

>> No.5266313

>>5266310
*autism
fuck me sideways

>> No.5266319

>>5266301
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Four_Pests_Campaign#Campaign

Short version:
>The government also declared that "birds are public animals of capitalism".
>With no sparrows to eat them, locust populations ballooned, swarming the country and compounding the ecological problems already caused by the Great Leap Forward, including widespread deforestation and misuse of poisons and pesticides.
>Ecological imbalance is credited with exacerbating the Great Chinese Famine, in which 20–45 million people died of starvation.

>> No.5266328

>>5266319
Small price to pay for equality.

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>>5266319
...and western Liberals & Neocons see these people and their systems as desirable and worth imitating. Really gets that noggin jogging.

>> No.5266348

>>5266328

Seriously though, what's 20 or 30 million dead when instead that jerk at gamestop can finally start calling you mam.

>> No.5266416

>>5264639
You should be able to modify save data as much as you damn well please. If it's a single player game no one should give a shit what you do with your saves and if it's multiplayer then it's their own fault if they write it in such a way that a client side change to a save file can actually impact the game.

>> No.5266439

>>5265921
It's pretty straight forward. These companies saw modifying software as being a threat to their bottom line so they lobbied to get it banned. The "pedophile porn" you're talking about has never been proven to actually be harmful (unless you count "someone could misuse it!" as harm, in which case the same logic applies to all the gaming things that were just banned) and does not affect their bottom line in anyway, so they didn't lobby to get it banned since they have better things to do with their time than barge around the country policing drawings and measuring titties.

>> No.5266480

>>5266439
Cannibalism is not harmful either. Eating a human steak doesn't hurt anyone.

>> No.5266491

>>5266480
And?

>> No.5266494

>>5266480
Different anon strolling by. Just wanted to say your logic is pretty retarded

>> No.5266497

>>5266480
Well, yes. It is very strange that you're allowed to have your body buried, burned, dissected, frozen transplanted into other people, etc. after you've died but you're not allowed to let someone eat it or bang it.

>> No.5266505

>>5266319
>The government also declared that "birds are public animals of capitalism".
But why?

>> No.5266515

>>5266505
It was sparrows specifically. They were salty because they kept eating their fruit and their seeds, fucking up their harvests.

>> No.5266525

>>5266494
My logic is sound. Producing child porn hurts children as much as chopping off someone's leg, less even if the person is sedated. The psychological damage, or even physical damage to genitalia, is harder to live with than walking with a stick.

>> No.5266535

>>5266525
An actual CP is illegal in Japan, wtf are you talking about?

>> No.5266557

>>5266535
It's a recent change. Obviously the guy was being hyperbolic but he meant actual child porn.

>> No.5266565

>>5266535

>this is only a cartoon depiction of an underage loli not an actual underage loli
Think about how retarded you sound. I haven't cringed this hard in a while

>> No.5266569

Pretty awesome letting companies dictate exactly how you can use your own property. I would love to see the fucked up society something like this could create if it were to get out of hand, from a distance I mean.

Keep it up Japan, get weirder with it.

>> No.5266573

>>5266565
>the psychological damage, or even physical damage, of a cartoon

>> No.5266585

>>5266565
>violence in video games cause school shootings

>> No.5266590
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5266590

>>5266573
>>5266585
Seething pedophiles

>> No.5266596

>>5266525
I was only referring to the two sentences contained in the post i replied to.

>> No.5266598

>>5266590
Dumb frogposter.

>> No.5266606

>>5266590
Bad laws are bad laws even when they're targeted at people you don't like Anon.

>> No.5266635

>>5266565
You're a cringe expert alright.

>> No.5266849

>>5266585
Uh, yes exposure to violent media leads to desensitization.

And exposure to simulated sexualized children can send some people down the dark path of pursuing the real thing. The only sane and logical reaction is to kill the artists and publishers and shackle the consumers to boulders in the central Congo where they can mine rare earth metals for our smartphones at gun point.

>> No.5266858

>>5266849
>faggot irony to hider your true intentions
This must be one of those fabled ironic dweebs.

>> No.5266868

>>5266858
Irony has been done to death by try hards. I'm being as sincere as possible. Media affects your world view and loli fags should be turned into helots.

>> No.5266880

>>5264464
cool keep me updated

>> No.5266891

>>5266849
>>5266868
>loli is purged
>everything in /d/ remains legal
>everything that is not allowed in even /d/ remains legal
>everything in /h/ remains legal
>the swathes of movies and games that glorify violence and torture remain legal
There are only one or two stances on this that are morally and empirically consistent, but the vast majority of people bitch out of them because they're not willing to accept the consequences of them.

>> No.5266918

>>5266868
You are a sad, strange little man, and you have my pity. Farewell.

>> No.5266992

>>5266891
You're operating under the assumption that I love most of the degenerate schlock pumped out of Hollywood/Japan.

>> No.5267004

>>5266992
You only love cock, lmao

>> No.5267204

>>5264578
>The reason is sociaga and other plagues.

Sociaga?
I've heard of Mobage and Gacha but what's Sociaga?

>> No.5267217

>>5267204
"Social" games

>> No.5267237

>>5265105
RIGHT TO REPAIR
RIGHT TO REPAIR

>> No.5267241

>>5265187
Specially Vietnam.

>> No.5267267

>>5267217
What is meant by social games? Fortnite? Pokemon Go? FIFA 2019?

>> No.5267272

>>5267267
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social-network_game

>> No.5267324

>EOP: The Thread
>Underage: The Thread Part 9001