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Astrologers pronounce month of Lord Jerkham. HotA posting doubled.
Wow you guys shat that last one up fast. By the end of this thread I hope we all learn the difference between "sedentary" and "sedimentary."
Previous thread: >>5217846
HoMM3 pastebin: https://pastebin.com/6G9B1cMA

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Map-maker anon here! Here's the pic of all the concept maps I've made so far. I'll also make the Rampart and the Inferno one and might even do the Conflux and the Cove at one point, though I have no idea how long it will take me to complete them. All of these concepts could be merged into one single map where the goal is to find and build the grail in the town in the center of the map. However, I don't think I will ever complete the map considering just how slow I've been working on it so far. Still, you may try to create on your own.

I also asked you whether I should make Rampart or Inferno next and two anons voted for Rampart already, so guess I'll start working on it.

Here's a zip containing all six maps (they're made in HotA map editor though):

>> No.5257726

damn op, from the catalogue i thought this was the new evil hobbit town

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It's The Week of Pixie!
Time to spank some pixies!

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Which are your favourite pixies?
h3 is the best, but h1 and mm3-4 are qt

>> No.5258015

I wish they always had no retaliation special skill, so I wouldn't have to upgrade them.
Also, my favourite part about them:
>Play Conflux
>2-5 Magic Lanterns around starting town

>> No.5258096

thanks bro will give them a try

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So with New Years approaching the HotA team is probably going to announce what they're working on next. What are you hoping, and what are you expecting? Do you think that """leak""" was real or just shitposting?

On a less speculative note, if there was a new town added to HoMM3, what would you want out of it? Any specific gameplay gimmicks or something (Like how Necropolis has Necromancy)?

>> No.5258109

where did all of these lizardmen come from...

>> No.5258139

Good advice - do NOT bring subject of HotA in M&M threads.
Unless you want to see some serious shitstorm, that is

>> No.5258264

>Do you think that """leak""" was real or just shitposting?
It's certainly extremely thinly-veiled considering the unifying themes were "sand" and "neutral" whereas neutral creatures use Dirt as native terrain, not to mention the hodgepodge of random units used being bullshit.

>> No.5258408

>Unless you want to see some serious shitstorm from me

>> No.5258409

Which creature should I fap to tonight?

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Posted in the old thread, double-dumb :C
>My bad. I'm dumb for calling it sand. It's a new terrain dead ground. It is based on the terrain we can see on original neutrals portraits. It's kind of a mix of sand, dirt and dead grass with dead trees and poison black lakes.This new terrain will be native to this new bandit faction and Necropolis since it fits necropolis theme perfectly.

>> No.5258439

Isn't dead ground already covered by cursed ground? How do you differentiate between those? And what's the point of doing so, when all of those Neutral creatures normally walk on Dirt?

>> No.5258452

cursed ground limits your magic to only 1st level. And it's not a terrain. Dead lands is a terrain, like snow or grass, without additional effects

>> No.5258501

Okay, how do you represent dead ground without making it already look like one of the grey and drab terrains already available?
And will all the RoE/AB/SoD maps be reworked to include the dead ground?
Both sound like a definite "no".
Adding new terrain types seems like a no-no because it's one of those things that already has enough biomes just so that you can tell at a glance what is what. HoMM3 is a game of beautiful simplicity and depth all the same. They won't do that.

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>Okay, how do you represent dead ground without making it already look like one of the grey and drab terrains already available?
It looked different enough with all sepia color insertions and stuff. And no bones and skulls like on the cursed ground.

>And will all the RoE/AB/SoD maps be reworked to include the dead ground?
Why are you asking me? I'm not from Hota, hell, I hope no one of those guys visits 4channel or else I won't be able to get info any longer :D

They didn't reworked maps after adding Highlands for conflux, did they? It appears on new maps and in map generator (which is a big part of hota and online community)

>Adding new terrain types seems like a no-no because it's one of those things that already has enough biomes just so that you can tell at a glance what is what. HoMM3 is a game of beautiful simplicity and depth all the same. They won't do that.
Highlands? Hello?

>> No.5258556

>And will all the RoE/AB/SoD maps be reworked to include the dead ground?
While I think the leak is fake, I don't think this is a good argument. HotA already has a bunch of stuff that could be reworked into the main campaign, yet isn't. Like the previously mentioned Highlands and the Cove faction itself (what it's based off of is in the campaign).

I'd love to see the main campaigns updated with the HotA content but that won't be happening, at least not for a long time.

>> No.5258620

>I hope no one of those guys visits 4channel
People here would be glad to obkhooyeesohseety them for Resiatance.

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>Someone thought that this is his hair

Geez people are retarded

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i-it's not?

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also this shit

How they fuck somebody could think it's hair?

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>> No.5258803

I kek'd hard on this. On one hand, it's really nice drawning. On the other, that fabulous golden mane of golden waves

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succ is officially happening

>> No.5259167

I fully agree with you. Pixies need spankings.

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Bradamanta laughs at you.

>> No.5259182

H3 Fairies (upgraded Pixies)
Ugliest is H2 Fairy, they wear a weird red hat.
Only play H1-H5.

>> No.5259282

you're the ugliest, Heroes 2 fairy is top qt

>> No.5259331

Reminder HotA is just a simple mod, which just happens to add a whole new faction.

>> No.5259337

And it's a mod of WoG, which too was merely a simple mod.

>> No.5259485

Wearing fur is not PC.

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>> No.5259924

Fuck off

>> No.5259934

What baffles me in later Heroes is that concept artists are clearly trying - but the result is shit that looks both weird as fuck and generic "spooky glowing things" fantasy. Sometimes simplier things are just better.

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>> No.5259940

fuck off.

Rather than new town i'd rather see balance changes that make HoMM 3 less of a broken mess of fuck.

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>> No.5259960

mapmakers having to go out of their way to give several factions at least SOME advantages is not fine.

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>> No.5260003

This really should be in the thread about people having serious misconceptions

>Ugliest is H2 Fairy, they wear a weird red hat.
Speaking of misconceptions - that's a beehive. A type of haircut

>> No.5260008

People like you are the reason why HotA turned from fixing errors and adding utility into this stupid piece of shit trying to "balance" the game.
It's unbalancable and never was even trying to be balanced. To "fix" it you would have to radically change how half of the shit in the game works, not just re-shuffle unit stats.
Want to play balanced game? Go for poker.

>> No.5260020

Just because HotA's approach to balance is pants-on-head retarded doesn't mean HoMM3 can't be made at least slightly less fucking bonkers.

>> No.5260029

Did you know that diagonal movements cost more points than straight ones?

100pts vs 141pts
141 because √2=1.41 so like in real life if you would try to step diagonally you have to make a bigger stride


>> No.5260057

>Change entire way how maps are generated
>Including either substracting vast amount of objects OR create equal number of new ones
>Change handful of abilities entirely
>Rework lineup for every single faction sans Castle, which is the closest thing to balance
>Bunch of utility features on top of it all
So you want to bump up lava, dirt and subterrain with buildings that would first need to be invented and modelled, or you wan to make grass shit by removing map objects?

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Can somebody give me a quick rundown on this pixie spanking meme?

>> No.5260114

It's a really embarassing story, so no.

>> No.5260225

It's a spankshitter from /nepgen/ spilling his retarded fetish on other threads and even boards.

>> No.5260264

You're the first one to ever mention whatever /nepgen/ is. Why should we trust you?

>> No.5260292

Who is we?

>> No.5260293

Spotted the ESL.

>> No.5260295

>being an ameritard who can't quote AND doesn't know a meme

>> No.5260297

People talked about their first maps in HoMM4. Some guy mentioned his made his first map to fit his fetish, and got really embarrassed when people claimed they wanted to play it.
He later learned Pixies were also in HoMM3.

>> No.5260304

>his use of the term "ESL"
It's that guy who conveniently can't speak or write in English himself and whose only argument in any discussion is that you're Russian if you disagree, but his own actual mistakes in writing are characteristic of butchered Slavic syntax constructions and he implied that Ukrainians are the only good Slavs, so he's most likely just a moron with a persecution complex, who, given the amount of investment into shitposting in this thread, also seems to believe HotA is being directly funded by Putin and Abramovich.

I miss when this thread's worst shitposter was the guy posting about Air Magic, he didn't samefag nearly as much, either.

>> No.5260306

>everyone i don't like is the same guy
Take your medication already, blyat. According to your gopniks, everyone in this thread is either that nepgen guy or Russian.

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>> No.5260321

>posts endlessly about "ESL", gopniks, Slavs and other bullshit
>on top of a hearty dose of retardation
>but it's everyone else who is obsessed about Russians, I swear
I can't wait for you to find out that the Chinese also play this game a lot.

>> No.5260325

Everyone know that Chineses only play Command Conquer Generals.

>> No.5260330

The makers of some of the most challenging maps out there, like Wayfarer, are Chinese and there's some pretty big fan outlets for HoMM3 in China. Probably for the same reasons as in most Slavic countries, really. They even are quite a force to be reckoned with in online games.

>> No.5260334

>They even are quite a force to be reckoned with
Blyat, just type "Tian an men" and they immediately surrender.

You gotta learn to play dirty, tovarisch.

>> No.5260336

But you are the one ESL here with no grasp of language. And judging by your butthurt about ukrainians, you've exposed yourself as a slav of russian kind (the worst kind), since no native english speaker can tell slavs apart.
>I miss when this thread's worst shitposter was the guy posting about Air Magic, he didn't samefag nearly as much, either.
>everyone who doesn't agree with me is a samefag
This is fucking golden.
Why do you call a single guy "everyone"?
4channel is banned in China though. The chances of the one posting here are pretty slim.
Chinese also cheat like hell, more so than russians.

>> No.5260346

>But you are the one ESL here with no grasp of language
Considering that you're the only one spamming the term "ESL" here and it's always tied up to useless, retarded posts wrought with reading comprehension issues and blatant lies?
>you've exposed yourself as a slav of russian kind (the worst kind)
>no native english speaker
No native English speaker types like you do. That you're trying really hard to be "in" with the crowd of Anglos shows how persecuted you feel on a daily basis.
>4channel is banned in China though. The chances of the one posting here are pretty slim.
Who cares? Who claimed a correlation? You're literally the only one person whose post content seems to be entirely about being anally ruptured about the fact that Russians play this game and, apparently, every single poster who disagrees with you hailing from that country.
Still not Russian.

>> No.5260353

Why do you people whine about Russians? I though the spanking guy was a frog rather than a vodka?

>> No.5260421

Can you just go and stay go

>> No.5260508

>4channel is banned in China though. The chances of the one posting here are pretty slim
>t. American who can't even into torrents

>> No.5260512

>Considering that you're the only one spamming the term "ESL" here and it's always tied up to useless, retarded posts wrought with reading comprehension issues and blatant lies?
I didn't "spam", you collosal subhuman retard, you are the one using it.
>No native English speaker types like you do. That you're trying really hard to be "in" with the crowd of Anglos shows how persecuted you feel on a daily basis.
Americans aren't anglos, so what's your point?
Again you've exposed yourself as a filthy slav just by your slav filter bubble, fucking retard.
>Who cares? Who claimed a correlation?
The person who claimed there is a lot of chinese playing homm3. Do you even read the quoted numbers, you fucking retarded russky?
>Still not Russian.
Living in Canada doesn't make you any less slav. You can take a russian out of Russia, but you can't take Russia out of him.
>a yuro talking shit about americans
You aren't allowed to use torrents either.

>> No.5260527

I'm Polish, so I do whatever, Jimbo.

And weren't you told to be gone and stay gone?

>> No.5260534

Polish or Polish (Russian)?

>> No.5260536

Silesian, to be precise, but I'm tired of "not nationality" jokes already.
And you literally can't be Polish (Russian). That's against law.

>> No.5260537

>I posted that a lot of Chinese are playing homm3
>you claim that Chinese don't post on 4channel
>these things are synonymous according to you
"Do you even read the quoted numbers" indeed.
Your English is still shit, by the way, you should be ashamed that you can't even speak your own language and that alleged Russians that you see everywhere in this thread and that I am still not can write better.

>> No.5260548

As if a Polish (Russian) would care about laws.
You claimed that a lot of chinese play homm3 (not a lot actually, compared to average p2w mobages) as a retort to my point, as if it means something. So not only you have a dogshit comprehension, your memory is also goldfish-tier.
>that alleged Russians that you see everywhere in this thread and that I am still not can write better.
So you at least admit you are a ESL.

>> No.5260558

Is Succession Wars mod ready now?

>> No.5260561

>(not a lot actually, compared to average p2w mobages)
The Chinese community created some of the best challenge maps that exist and the concept of a "Chinese map" is pretty much iconic among people who actually play this game.
You, on the other hand, can only ever shitpost on chauvinistic grounds about a video game you don't even have time to play because all you do is shitpost.
>as a retort to my point, as if it means something.
I claimed that a lot of Chinese play HoMM3 because you have a chip on your shoulder about Slavs in this thread. You retort that "they don't post on 4channel", basically admitting that the only reason you exist in these threads is to sate your delusion that Putin funded HotA to destabilize the Western civilization. This is the only takeaway I can find from your retarded shitposts because you absolutely can't stop calling everyone else a "russky".
>So you at least admit you are a ESL.
Again, you can't even speak English, so whether I'm an Eskimo or a Zulu has no bearing on this discussion. I've heard parrots with better vocabulary than you. Fuck off. Stay gone.

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>> No.5260567

Now identify each hero in this pic.

>> No.5260578

>The Chinese community created some of the best challenge maps that exist and the concept of a "Chinese map" is pretty much iconic among people who actually play this game.
That doesn't mean it's big or they post here.
>You, on the other hand, can only ever shitpost on chauvinistic grounds about a video game you don't even have time to play because all you do is shitpost.
You do exactly the same, so what's your point?
>I claimed that a lot of Chinese play HoMM3 because you have a chip on your shoulder about Slavs in this thread.
And statistically an average poster in this thread being a slav is far higher than being a chink. But statistics is not your strongest suit, I know.
>basically admitting that the only reason you exist in these threads is to sate your delusion that Putin funded HotA to destabilize the Western civilization.
I didn't say any of that, it's just you strawmaning as hard as always, because you can't argue any other way. All I said is that your style of posting resembles of Putin's electorate, down to retarded strawmans.
>Again, you can't even speak English, so whether I'm an Eskimo or a Zulu has no bearing on this discussion. I've heard parrots with better vocabulary than you. Fuck off. Stay gone.
But it does matter, only a select few people would vehemently defend Resistance rework in HotA on crypto-neonazi forums. And they are neither native english or Zulus.

>> No.5260581

>That doesn't mean it's big
Then fuck off from this board too, """American""" man, your country only plays Fortnite and CoD anyway.

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It happened in a thread I made a few months ago.
Search in warosu, thread ID is 4878118.

>> No.5260594

>your country
Hell yeah, I do have my country, unlike you living in a resource colony of my country.
Owned by a chinese megacorp and the main playerbase being chinese. Way to miss a point, retard.

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>Almost 2019
>Is SUCC up, my friends?

>> No.5260606

I read it's released Dec 31 2018 in moddb. It's almost 2019 but I don't know. Maybe they're still partying for the new year and forgot about Succ Wars.

>> No.5260612

>Owned by a chinese megacorp and the main playerbase being chinese. Way to miss a point, retard
>bringing up main playerbases now instead of the overall population playing the game, contradicting yourself from just three posts ago
The main playerbases for HoMM games consist of Russians, the Polish and the Chinese. No place for Americans according to your worthless logic. Stay gone.

>> No.5260624

>The main playerbases for HoMM games consist of Russians, the Polish and the Chinese.
Again, I said neither of those, you literally came up with bullshit again. Not to mention you were the first bringing up the number of players as if it has any relevance to the posts on this thread.
>No place for Americans according to your worthless logic. Stay gone.
How I can be ESL and american? If anything you should fuck off back to HotA forums where you can fellate your fellow golem spammers.

>> No.5260636 [DELETED] 

>Again, I said neither of those
Yes, but I did. What you first said is that the Chinese population generally plays p2w mobages and not HoMM3, so they are irrelevant. To show you how ridiculous and fallacious your argument is, I came up with this post >>5260581. You said it doesn't matter because Fortnite's main playerbase is in China.
By your own logic Russians don't play HoMM3 because their main playerbase plays DotA 2. You're a humongous retard.
>How I can be ESL and american?
You yourself imply you're an American:
>Hell yeah, I do have my country, unlike you living in a resource colony of my country.
But your earlier shitposts and bizarre focus on the ESL issue (in spite of the fact that your posts are the least coherent), as well as some other weird hints (stating implicitly that the only good Slavs are Ukrainians) make me think that you're a really sad Ukrainian.
Anyway, you are running in circles at this point. Nothing you say makes sense. Stop posting.

>> No.5260647

>This fucking shitfest
I'm glad I'm leaving for all-nighter HoMM3 hot seat game. camouflage as a New Year's Eve party

>> No.5260661

>vehemently defend Resistance rework in HotA on crypto-neonazi forums
>debating anything is pointless because we happen to be neighbors with /pol/
nuke this fucking thread already

>> No.5260664

You didn't debate for shit.

>> No.5260668

So wait, which is it? Were there Resistance debates or not?
You're the first person to mention the Resistance rework at all in this thread and I doubt anyone wants to go back to that "discussion".

>> No.5260674

i did the last 3 OPs and this one has really metastasized into something special
HoMM3 may very well have had its first hotseat game in Cote D'Ivoire last week
>it was HotA

>> No.5260729

>You're the first person to mention the Resistance rework at all in this thread
You brought up everything from the last thread to this one, but then you tactically forgot about the main trigger.
Master debater at its finest.

>> No.5260761

Hota-insider is in the thread!

So I got another session with hota members on discord: Bandit town won't be announced until 2020. The initial plan was to reveal it sooner, but now they are implementing alternative tiers, meaning that ALL neutrals will be presented in the city, like you can build either Mummies or Fawns resulting in different higher tier creatures. As for the 7th tier, there won't be any new creature but instead 4 megadragons would be available as alternatives with shared growing rate.

>> No.5260771

>4 megadragons
Yeah your already flimsy credibility is utterly gone now.

>> No.5260779

Megadragons aren't as OP as people are thinking. They have attack power of 2 7tier creatures (and will have only 1 per week growth with castle and 1/3 per week with fort) meaning they were not be in a big quantities. Plus, some parameters rework will take place.

Their shared dwelling is called Dragon Dystopia

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i hate hero chains

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Haha your going to be embarassed soon

>> No.5260831

it was supposed to be out now but fucking slavs fucked us over once again

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>Somehow she saw feathers


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On VK official group Hota team has posted this

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It's the dwelling of some plant-like creatures of the new town.

>> No.5261072

Wow, the info I've leaked is actually confirmed!
Get dunk on, bitches who didn't believe me!

>> No.5261124

so what's the point of water/fire magic, they just seem so much worse than earth/air

>> No.5261130

Water = buff.
Fire = damage.
Earth = whatever.
Air = Buff.
Nature = summons

>> No.5261136

>AI hero summons a shitload of elementals towards the start of the battle and I lose
oh okay then

>> No.5261137

Teleport, Clone, Bless and Prayer. And Water Walk I guess.
Bloodlust, Curse and Blind.

And you're right, they're not as good as earth or air. Prayer does make Water the 2nd best school imo, but you're nowhere near guaranteed to get it, and it's a 4th level spell so Fortress and Stronghold can't get it at all. Bless is situational, but very strong if you have to rely on troops with high damage variance.
Fire is just plain weaker than the other schools. Damage spells don't benefit enough from it, nor does Blind, and the mass spells aren't as strong.

>> No.5261148

Water magic isn't so bad
Can be chosen for secondary heroes especially clerics

>Mass Bless
>Mass Dispell
>Water walking

>> No.5261152

isn't the best single target damage ability implosian (earth) and the best aoe one chain lightning (air) ?

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>The Bandit Town leak was real

>> No.5261159

Reminder Prayer is a mass spell that makes Haste (aka main reason why to pick Air Magic) obsolete.

Berserk alone makes Fire worth it, but Curse is not a shabby choice, either

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BTW, is SUCC up

>> No.5261365

no it's not, fuck slavs, ruined my new years eve

>> No.5261434

they're lying!

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>> No.5261443

>How I can be ESL and american?
Pedro has a talk with you

>> No.5261448

they didn't set the timezone, so technically it's still dec 31 2018 in some part of the world.

>> No.5261454

>be almost 2 Jan
>still having SUCC unreleased because it's 31 Dec on Hawaii

>> No.5261480

Hawaii is UTC-10. They will probably release it in Baker Island's Dec 31, 2018. It's UTC-12. 12 hours 20+ minutes from now.

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>> No.5261530

Forgot the hour. I mean it's Dec 31, 2018 23:59:59. I second before 2019 in Baker's Island.

>> No.5261685

Stuff is happening on Putinbook.

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>> No.5261795
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creator is being a big baby

>> No.5261807

I was about to post that screenshot.

>> No.5261964

They all have their spells worth using, but what makes Earth/Air so amazing is combination of amazing map mobility spells and cheap+fast+reliable innitiative/movement advantage in battle. They're pretty much same in that aspect and they compliment eachother.

Fire/Water don't really offer much in the means of map mobility, which makes them way worse by default. On battlefield you still have mobility advantage with Water from Prayer, but fire doesn't really offer that. Also Prayer costs quite a bit of mana and could be unreliable to acquire, so it's pretty much way inferior to Haste/Slow in most aspects as you want to use your spells as fast and as often as possible to be capable of beating as powerful neutrals with as fewer losses as possible.

Since you should want to pick Earth/Air for your map mobility every single game, then there is not much of a point in taking more schools. The amount of spells you can cast is very limited and Air/Earth offer enough powerful spells for you to use, so you're better off investing your precious skill points into things like Armor/Offence, even though spells like Expert Berserk can win you fights other spells couldn't.

All should be pretty obvious and kind of no brainer.

>> No.5262092

What are some fun scenarios to go through? I've only played All for One a few times and Myth and Legend.

>> No.5262269

It's up.

>> No.5262275
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Nevermind. Back to bed.

>> No.5262281
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btw https://drive.google.com/uc?id=1lPvkUEkS-PkUsxB5nc2PC9XHMQK9ErSi&export=download

>> No.5262324

>A literal year past the promised release day
>The mod is now a running joke about overdue projects
>N-neat release
Is this guy for real or just trolling in the comment section? Please tell me he's just trolling and not really this fucking stupid.

>> No.5262331

and it's fucking shit anyway
no HD features like combat replay or quick recruit, some meme cheat shit is enabled so every build menu visit gives you resources and you can build more than one building a turn, combat animations are slow as fuck

>> No.5262334

>you can build more than one building a turn
That's actually a good thing for me. But I play a lot of WoG, with this and ability to stock & upgrade creatures in their spawning sites on-map on, simply because it cuts off a lot of hassle and makes hot seat soooooo much faster.

Either way, what a fucking moron.

>> No.5262338

>A cactus means your shitty made up fanfic town is confirmed
Fucking seriously

>> No.5262340

Honestly, utility is the only reason why bother with WoG at all. Fuck all their options and retarded changes, but stuff like simple ability to tell the witch to fuck off with teaching you Eagle Eye or get those Storm Elementals ready for recruitment without 3 days wasted on going back to town are what makes this mod worth playing. And yeah, it all makes the multiplayer go faster and smoother.

>> No.5262342

Hoho, they've just announced the new faction.
Eat my ass, I was right!

>> No.5262347


>> No.5262349

Yeah and it sure looks like evil hobbits you MASSIVE FAGGOT

>> No.5262359

>category: demo
>version: 0.8
and they said it'll be ready in dec 31, 2018

>> No.5262361
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Best shot of the cowboy units. What's up with the dragon?

>> No.5262364

I don't know but I'm cautiously excited. Hopefully it'll be like a less retarded Forge, but we will see.
Also, to the mr. ""insider"", explain all the retardation you were spewing earlier. I'm glad it turned out not to be true but goddamn that was some fever dream shit.

>> No.5262372

The one unit looks like it's a flamethrower so it definitely does seem like a repurposed Forge. I wonder if this means they'll consider Forge off the table for the future? On one hand I'm sad, but on the other holy shit Cowboys sound cool as hell.

I do hope this'll be a Good faction though, we already have 4 neutral factions and don't need a 5th.

>> No.5262380

I think the Forge is supposed to be an evil faction.

>> No.5262384

Yeah, and this isn't Forge, and it definitely doesn't look evil. I'm expecting it to be Neutral, but I'm hoping it's Good.

>> No.5262387

What faction is it?

>> No.5262391

Some sort of a Forge spin-off with cowboy/steampunk gnomes

>> No.5262396

and evil hobbits

>> No.5262397


>> No.5262401

Going with steampunk forge over sci fi forge is easily the BEST design decision they could've taken. Also, nice terrain, HotA gets SUCC before SUCC is out. We'll never get the SUCC.

>> No.5262402

Forgot to post teaser for those who are intrested

>> No.5262404

Well They just shifted bandits town to be released after this "forge"

I swear on Lord Boragus grave.

>> No.5262405

SUCC is a lie.

>> No.5262406

Succ is buggy shit

there is no limit to building and refresh resources each time


>> No.5262412

5 years of wait.

>> No.5262413

D-delet these lies, it's the neatest release in the history of neat releases.

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>> No.5262416

>steampunk forge over sci fi forge
tasteless faggot

>> No.5262432

has it fixed

>> No.5262447
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>any kind of forge in homm

>> No.5262450

>Being upset a science fiction game has science fiction elements in it

>> No.5262459

NWC got death threats from HoMM3 fans when they announced the Forge in AB.

>> No.5262484

See, personally I'm not against Forge or scifi in HoMM, MM was oldschool fantasy jank from the start.
What I take issue with is how shitty and lazy the OG Forge concept was. It's like they turned the jank up to 11 with the mishmashed buildings and units. I mean come on, modern looking skyscrapers and runways?

>> No.5262536

Do they have Monster Trucks?

>> No.5262583

SUCC is shit

doesn't work properly in HD Mod

>> No.5262595

Fuck off, it's impossible to visually integrate.

>> No.5262634

Why is this general so fast now? Where are you niggers coming from?

>> No.5262674

It started when someone got too cranked up on that CNN "Russia is to blame for everything" shit because Orange Man Bad

>> No.5262686

>Be hobby community
>Xmas season hits
>Thread goes from 1 thread 2-4 weeks
>To 2-4 threads per Xmas

>> No.5262698

If it was done properly, nobody would complain. Everyone playing M&M games know they are pulp fantasy with fuckload of space tech scattered around.
But NWC simply did a half-assed concept with even worse designs for Forge, hence why everybody got triggered by it

>> No.5262701

>Kids and students got free time
>Surprised traffic goes up
Let me guess - you are one of those morons who truly believe summer is just a meme... right?

>> No.5262703

There are 2 kinds of HoMM fans:
Ones who played M&M games before HoMM and ones who never played/heard M&M. The science fiction part shocked them. But I agree that Forge looks fugly. They could do better, but they scrapped it.

>> No.5262709

Nah, after the outcry about the shit job it was too late. And I don't mind the fact we got Conflux out of the deal. Works much better for me.

>> No.5262715

I started with HoMM and later played through all of M&M, the science fiction part never bothered me ( I had played wizardry before). Was pissed me was the fuck ugly town and unit design.

>> No.5262716

It's pretty broken with 4 L7/week.
Fastest creature

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>> No.5262736
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>And I don't mind the fact we got Conflux out of the deal. Works much better for me.
We didn't get Conflux out of Forge getting scrapped. Forge was going to come first, and Conflux second. Forge getting scrapped just means they had to rush Conflux which is why it's a mess with reused assets.

>> No.5262768

Not to mention FREE magic schools right in the town.

>> No.5262802

I was like that and finished mm6 a month ago for the first time, you probably seen my posts above.
I still think that homm will be better without scifi stuff.

>> No.5262809

The main "problem" here is very simple:
HoMM never before used any sci-fi stuff. Just being related to M&M is not enough of an excuse, especially if the HoMM pretty much deliberately sticked to "clear" fantasy for the duration. Sudden appearance of high-tech sci-fi and of a really fucking low quality in the same time caused a JUSTIFIED uproar.
Want to introduce sci-fi into predominately fantasy setting. How about doing it Thorgal's style? Or Conan, for fuck's sake.

>> No.5262824

>The main "problem" here is very simple:
Yes, homm3 babies didn't bother to play anything other than homm3.

>> No.5262859

The problem is that you don't argue for it.
You say "Its bad" without really saying what its bad, and then idiots reply to that instead of calling you a moron.
Such is debate culture

>> No.5262939
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>Let me intentionally and deliberately miss the point
>While complaining about "babies"

>Sudden introduction of something completely different
>Low quality of said introduction
>You are not saying why it's bad

>> No.5263669

Any review about SUCK Wars mod?

>> No.5264120

buggy, wait until a few updates

>> No.5264691

holy shit 0.8 SUCC is a buggy mess.
Not like I can't wait another year.

>> No.5264728

Literally why does anyone care about succ?

>> No.5264769

Because it's something new to talk about and it's an interesting project that marries two of /vr/'s favourite HoMM games.

MM threads have gone a long way from people still having the same endless theoretical debates on Capitol vs army, XP vs gold and the occasional dude getting stuck in one of the M&M6 dungeons, otherwise I figure they'd die.
Though it used to be somewhat more comfy and less hostile.

>> No.5264795
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>> No.5264801
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>What baffles me in later Heroes is that concept artists are clearly trying - but the result is shit that looks both weird as fuck and generic "spooky glowing things" fantasy. Sometimes simplier things are just better.
The problem with heroes 5 at least certainly lies with the underlying art direction. For some inexplicable reason they ditched the fairy tale/mythological aethetic, and went for a WoW/anime look,

>> No.5264804
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Fact: Troglodytes are the most powerful race in MM

>> No.5264806

>people are glad the forge was cancelled

THe Conflux is easily the worst faction in the history of the series. It doesn't have any coherent theme, they just threw a bunch of neutral creatures (the elementals) together and the new one they came up with (magic elemental? seriously?) is mindbogglingly stupid. It's blatantly obvious they slapped it together at the last minute after the fan outcry made them scrap the forge.

>> No.5264810

>never take these units with your main hero
Excuse me? Shakti? Drakon? Even fucking Ignatius? Tower's entire early game is about hoarding MGs.

>> No.5264812

>Implying goblins with laser pistols would be better

>> No.5264864
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>Have a wacky post industrial society
>With magical weapons
>And references everywhere to "The heavenly Forge"
>Even gameplay focused around turning your hero from a mere warmonger into a intercontinental WMD
Forge's problem is that its not wacky. Its a terrible lineup instead of something far more wacky and tasteful

>> No.5264871

Dude never plays multiplayer I bet.

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>> No.5264897

And somehow forge is even worse, really makes you think.

>> No.5264898

>Goblins with laser blasters
>zombies with chainsaws
>ogres with bazookas
>minotaurs with jetpacks
>nagas with caterpillar tracks


>> No.5264914

I can't imagine a single player map where I'd ignore Gremlins as Tower. Maybe if I was playing Piquedram's Bizarre Adventure. What the fuck, really.

>> No.5264925

why not make another human town but make them distinctly different to the castle

>> No.5264928

Eh, in single player you could afford to turtle quite a bit more. It's less critical to get going withing the first week or two.

>> No.5264929

There has been some work done on Cathedral town which was basically the evil castle, and it supposed to appear in Hota, but unfortunately it seems that it was canned.

>> No.5264959

what's the point of making same shit?

>> No.5264981

>don't buy fast as fuck no retaliation units

>> No.5264983

He said pixies, not fairies.
Pixies are for spanking.

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>> No.5265013

Is this bait?

>> No.5265016

But it's a shooter. It's a first day shooter. If you don't pick it, you literally don't have army for the first two weeks.

>> No.5265029

Not at all suggesting it would be a good idea nor something there is really any reason whatsoever to do, just that it would be feasible in SP given that the AI is not very dangerous or fast.

>> No.5265054
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I can respect imageposting at the least.
But arguments need to be made in order to convince people, or at the least share a opinion that isn't just surface level.

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>> No.5265636

>demo video
lots of praise
download, install = errors + bugs

>> No.5265938

good because it's dumb unless theyre trying to make some argument that it's Karigor or something, which is still dumb
because as we all know

>> No.5266225

Might & Magic VII was released Jan 2, 1999.
Happy birthday MM7.

>> No.5266258

>norwegians are barbarians
>anglos are elves
>spanish and italians are humans
>frenchmen are necros

>> No.5266296

> Russians are Space aliens

>> No.5266403

>poles are trolodytes

>> No.5266459
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As a Pole, I'm ok with that.

>> No.5266819

So far only thing I miss in SUCC is ability to view entire inventory at once. It was convenient for knowing how many free slots I had left.

>> No.5267197
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>Why yes I am of polish descent, what gave it away?

>> No.5267287

>Mjutsuzsbjjcztojtzuch Nazichenazlocwbjostzuskalich
what did he mean?

>> No.5267572
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... what if I tell you I'm not Anglo-Saxon nor Protestant and thus I find no point in arguing, as I'm aware this won't convince you regardless of quality of arguments to anything at all and only entrench you deeper? You already have your own stance and nothing is going to change it, as long as you won't change it yourself.
tl;dr pic related

>> No.5267669

300 of those assholes slap your dragon's ass what do
shoulda picked imps if you wanted to insult Poles

>> No.5267697
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>> No.5267709

So I just finished StarCraft and Brood War and I'm thinking about giving HOMM3 a shot.
Which version should I get?

>> No.5267712

not steam

>> No.5267720

Grab the GOG version and install the HD mod. Then, if you're still craving more content, there's mods you can slap on the game. Your best bet would be WoG or HotA. I'm more partial to HotA myself because it's more straightforward, like an expansion pack, but WoG adds a whole lot of shit you can turn on and off as you please.

>> No.5267778

Unironically enjoyed it

>> No.5267798

SUCK Wars mod

>> No.5267807

What's your favorite and least favorite faction on a purely aesthetic level?

>> No.5267816

Fortress, it's just quite original, has great music too.
>least favourite
Conflux, it's uninspired and the Town Hall building hurts my eyes.

>> No.5267847

Does the town has to be "fully build" or some things can be skipped? Because there is a point where Rampart is fucking perfection... and then you add few other buildings and it's overloaded with shit.
>least favourite
Definitely Necropolis. Half of the buildings looks like shit, the background (dried bottom of a fucking lake) is shit and it's all just meh.


>> No.5267854

Avoid steam and avoid the HD version from Ubi.
Either get a torrent with some old release of SoD or get it from GOG and install HD mod over it. Or ignore the HD mod.

If you want mods that are MODULAR and just add what you want them to add - WoG. Bunch of utility options that are very useful, rest can be ignored (and really should be). HotA is a mixed bag just like WoG, but that bag is mandatory - you either take it all or none at all.
And to repeat myself - install HD MOD. Do NOT buy HD version of the game, as it's baseline HoMM3 without the expansions.

>> No.5267923

>Conflux, it's uninspired
It has pixies, who are the only spankable things in HoMM3.
Okay, Pegasus riders come second.

>> No.5267948

Are elves spankable too?

>> No.5267951

No. They have pants and tunics, and I'm pretty sure they're actually male.
It's gay to spank a male I think.

>> No.5267985

HoMM3 elves are males, but HoMM4 elves looks like females. They are busty in the battlefield, and they looks like female in the portrait.

>> No.5267993

They are also way too slender. I feel like you could break all their bones by slapping them too hard and send them ragdolling.

>> No.5267995

Naga, Harpy and Medusa are female too. Are they spankable?

>> No.5268000
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>water snake butt
>bird butt
>snek butt
No. HoMM would have to go full Korean to get spankable characters.

>> No.5268002

HoTA has nymphs and sea witches for spanking.

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>> No.5268017
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>Horn of the Abyss is an unofficial expansion on the same level as Armageddon's Blade and Shadow of Death.
Starting to get curious about how many mods are out there.
Also, Sea Witches are definitely bulliable.

>> No.5268028

Sea Witches can cast weakness on you. They laugh at your bullying.

>> No.5268031

Urgh. This is why I stick to HoMM4 and its manageable-sized pixies.

>> No.5268234

Are there any custom campaigns or mods that feature campaigns on the level of Armageddon's Blade or Shadow of Death? Apart from HotA.

>> No.5268245

Never tried it.


On Heroes Community board przemo877 posted his conversion of the Heroes I campain and 4 campaigns from Heroes II expansion pack. You can spot a few differences in those maps for obvious reasons and sometimes changes were made for a climate puropose.

>> No.5268275

You could download Chronicles custom campaigns I guess, some of them are pretty decent.

>> No.5268359

Try Eternal Love.

>> No.5268794

Entire HoMM4?

>> No.5269274

MM4 question that's been bugging me since 20+ years ago. Is it possible to kill Lord Xeen (the last boss of MM4) without the Xeen Slayer Sword? This is in MM4 only, so no MM5 installed (World of Xeen).

>> No.5269939


Ya I've finished all of those.

>> No.5270020

Even addons for homm4? Are they good?

>> No.5270076
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Beta 0.8 is up.

I tried to let people know <a href="//boards.4channel.org/v/thread/445412559#p445412559" class="quotelink">>>>/v/445412559,</a> but nobody seems to care.

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>> No.5270094

Elitism coming from /vg/ and /vr/ is misplaced, the only reason /v/ seems worse is the volume. Its the same retards posting everywhere, only we post more in the fast moving board.

>> No.5270097

they are terrible and obvious cash grabs before going under

>> No.5270117
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The point is, you stupid motherfucker, average /v/ user is younger than HoMM3

>> No.5270119

>obvious cash grabs before going under
Considering they were the only way for NWC to have even a sliver of hope they will survive the collapse of 3DO as independent dev studio, rather than going under with entire corporate structure, I don't really mind. Also, the crunch time was insane for those.

>> No.5270217

I finished one of the add-ons, I think. It's been more than ten years.

The campaign was passable, but not on the level of the original HoMM IV campaigns. The writing was at best mediocre.

>> No.5270284
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Shut your whore mouth, HoMM IV is magnificent.

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>> No.5270507

>see that shooter stack? you can clear it!

>> No.5270518

Anon, get on times. Todd currently is completely silent and holed up in his secret vault under Bethesda's main office, waiting for the fallout of FO76 to clear out.
Oh the puns!

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>> No.5270530

HoMM IV is the best for spanking pixies.

>> No.5270535

who is todd?

>> No.5270542

That's because succ is a stupid meme mod.

>> No.5270547

nevermind, i found him. he's that fallout guy.

>> No.5270551
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>he's that fallout guy
He's much more than that:

>> No.5270559
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Thanks I needed that laugh.

>> No.5270560

That too.

>> No.5270565

Add-ons suck ass. Gameplay-wise, HoMM 4 is a mess, with a lot of great things (heroes as units, hero-less armies, caravans, choice of units per tier) and equal number of horrible things (predominately related with flat-out broken AI script). Campaigns from vanilla game were golden, thou. A Pirate's Daughter a best.

>> No.5270570
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>Add-ons suck ass
You wot mate

>> No.5270601

this is amazing

>> No.5270616

>Blatantly clear rush job on every step
>Poor map design eveb for HoMM4 standards
>Weak-ass writing

>> No.5270650

That was fun.

>> No.5270669
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>Weak-ass writing
m8 fuck off

>> No.5270731

Nigger, you are getting tiresome at this point. Even NWC openly admitted they did a poor job with the add-ons in terms of writing. And even without that, the disparity in quality between vanilla game and add-ons is so huge you could cram inside your mom

>> No.5270735

t. Mongo

>> No.5270738

Since the RPG thread bring him up...

>> No.5270740

You don't fuck with Spazz Maticus, a young king on a mad conquest to rule the world, son

>> No.5270743

... I just posted his video, so go fuck yourself with a rusty piece of rebar

>> No.5270748

t. Mysterio

>> No.5270753

>he doesn't like Spazz Maticus, a young king on a mad quest to rule to world

>> No.5270761
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>Polish peasants
>kurwa jebać

>> No.5270778
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HoMM IV is like Star Wars prequels

mostly hated but still better than sequels

>> No.5270785

I grew up with the original Star Wars. Don't fucking get me started.

>> No.5270804

>Comparing HoMM to Star Wars
>Even implying HoMM is this fucking bad
Daytime in States is in full effect I guess

>> No.5270907
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Hey /vr/, what am I now?

>> No.5270914


>> No.5271182

Still better than Tower.

>> No.5271337

>than Tower
Pick one

>> No.5271661

Third post is already complaining that the graphics is shit, which is objectively wrong.

>> No.5271779
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>Taste and opinion

>> No.5271872

No. It is immune to all damage types (Fire, Ice, Poison, Electricity, Magic, Energy, Physical) in both MM4 standalone and WoX. The Xeen Slayer Sword doesn't actually have a damage type, and getting it messes up the balance in the rest of the game. For example Winterkill becomes a normal hack and slash like anywhere else despite the immunity to physical damage.

If you do have WoX, using it on Darkside will always allow you to effectively cheese several fights with high physical resistance or outright immunity such as Gamma Gazers, Minotaurs, and the Water/Air Elementals in their planes. Where it is the most broken is the Mega Dragon. The Mega Dragon has 100% immunity to all damage types other than physical which it is 90% resistant to. This is supposed to be a ridiculously annoying fight as it has an aoe instant eradication move every round with 200 speed and tons of hp (64000 I think). If you use the Xeen Slayer Sword though, since it has no damage type, it does full damage and you can easily kill the Mega Dragon in 1-3 rounds with endgame characters.

>> No.5271965

Just check the MM4 hintbook. You're right about Xeen's immunity.

That Xeen Slayer Sword to kill MM5 Mega Dragon looks interesting. When I finished MM5, I had deleted the MM4 (I borrowed both MM4 & MM5 from a friend). So I didn't have the Xeen Slayer Sword. Is it possible to get the sword in MM5 magic mirror? I'll keep in mind about this trick when I try WoX someday.

>> No.5271991

The Mega Dragon fight was really hard. I use the default party and only the Knight was able to stand its attack. I don't remember the party average level, but I'd completed MM5 before facing it. I used a cheat tool called Game Wizard, it's a TSR (terminated & stay resident) program that you can use to edit the memory. It also can save state your game. I used it because my party was down to a single char, the Knight. And I used save state everytime the Mega Dragon eradicate him.

>> No.5272212

Are you retarded? How is the Heroes 2 graphics ugly? You can't give me one good reason why it's ugly. He finds something objectively good looking ugly, thus his subjective taste and opinion is shit, not the graphics.

>> No.5272285

If you are talking about the "I lost It", yes that works in vanilla MM4. Using the code in Clouds still gives a Xeen Slayer Sword though and the question was do you need a Xeen Slayer Sword. No it does not work with the MM5 mirrors.

You can skip all the progression other than Cave of Illusion (using skulls for stats as necessary for the cupie doll requirements)-> Tower of High Magic -> Darzog's Tower -> Clouds -> Castle Xeen

>> No.5272358

T. Mungo the unga bunga barbarian

>> No.5272473

is there a way to take shit out of the garrison

>> No.5272517

You can't unless whoever made the map lets you.

>> No.5272641

The default party isn't great. Rangers are garbage and the knight really doesn't add anything. It's been decades since I played vanilla MM5, so I forget if they used the same party (I would always install Clouds with floppies and then hit the option to to combine into World when installing Darkside). Since you are already low on magic a barbarian isn't nearly as useful as he is if you are stacking yourself with Clerical and Sorcerer school casters (Paladins and Archers get the same spells at double cost and half the spell point pool).

The OP pastebin has downloads for MM1-8 as well as some strategy notes, although the ones for 6-8 are more detailed because more people play them.

>> No.5273058

Huh, I just won MM7 for the first time a few minutes ago. What a coincidence. That segment where you go into the sea with those diving suits was spooky as hell. I wish that area was a bit bigger and had some more enemy variety.

>> No.5273576

Can you read? Because I have serious doubts here. Nobody said ANYTHING about them being ugly. It was your retardation and lacking reading comprehension driving you to even more absurd conclusions, taken drectly from your ass.
And my point was very fucking simple: tastes are subjective, period. Takes to be a stupid nigger like you to think otherwise

>> No.5273612

>why fuck up the graphics
Yeah, totally doesn't imply that Heroes 2 graphics is bad. Retard.
And yes tastes are subjective, doesn't mean they can't be wrong and bad.
Now fuck off back to /v/.

>> No.5273617

trogboys RISE UP

>> No.5273621

the one in the pastebin retards

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Oh, so you can't read

>> No.5274131

Oh yeah, I forgot we had one. Still makes it the GOG version.

>> No.5274163

You're an idiot.

>> No.5274165

Is this Jon Van Caneghem himself?


>> No.5274178

Says the guy who has reading comprehension of a first grader

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>> No.5274663

Idk, I kinda like the way the magic elementals attack by exposing themselves - they're like weaponized flashers.

>> No.5275271

Is this supposed to be your auto-reflection on your retardation, you illiterate piece of shit?

>> No.5275273

>The setting is M&M
>REEEEEEEE the only elements that could be are the Greek four!

>> No.5275275

And if anything, it was Psychic elemental that was weird.

>> No.5275282

They should've named him Aether elemental instead.

>> No.5275318

The fuck is aether?

>> No.5275319

that shit that make your soul burn slow
>fuck Jay Z

>> No.5275326

Are you serious?

>> No.5275335

>her first love

>> No.5275356

Heroes 5 ToE was good

>> No.5275397

>install horn of the abyss
>start some balanced map
>initial enemies are 120 imps, 120 pikemen, etc

I am sorry, what? Just what? What.
Am I misremembering, or did it used to be 18-25 enemies instead of 100+?

>> No.5275435

air on steroids

>> No.5275502

Why exactly is it that every faction is multi-racial except Castle and Necro?

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>> No.5275518

>Griffins are human

>> No.5275524

But you have both human skeletons AND dragon skeletons. Just because they're both dead doesn't mean that they're the same race.

>> No.5275549

I mean the Heroes, all the other factions has at least two different races, while Castle just has humans and Necro just has humans in various states of undeath.
What does it really say that humans are one of the few races capable of having a wide variety of goals and ideological inclinations?

>> No.5275557

homm v was never good

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Doesn't look very monoracial to me. There is even a token nigger like a proper multi-culti society.

>> No.5275562

Cool it with the racist remarks, this is 4channel and it has no place here.

>> No.5275587

Negromancers are a thing.

>> No.5275635
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>Warlocks are evil druids

In MM7 promotion for druid is warlock

Is this a thing or they just run out of ideas?

In AB Orwald from Mutare's campaign is druid but he is described as Warlock
I know it's because he is just Coronius with a different portrait so he could have Dragon Slayer specialty
but is this actually a part of official M&M lore?

So warlocks are druids who hate nature?

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>> No.5275764

triggered? Good

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>> No.5275776
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You just answered yourself why people hate you, /pol/tard

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>> No.5275794

Its kind of a thing.
Druids engage with nature because its natural.
Warlocks try to dominate nature, creating armies of monster familiars and enslaved dragons.
This is even reflected in HOMM1 and HOMM2 where the Warlock factions are monster factions

>> No.5275812

Wouldn't Necromancers be opposite of Druids then?

>> No.5275817

>Anglos and their retarded naming conventions for different kind of magic men

>> No.5275867

>le stormfags
The leftoid in your cap is seething.

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>monthly succ wars check

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>> No.5276064

Only gay nerds care about this mod, if you want HoMM2 aesthetics, just play HoMM2, if you want good gameplay, just play HoMM3.

>> No.5276070

>Made in WOG
>Not in HoTA

No wonder it SUCCs

>> No.5276071

If your language has more than single term for magic using person, it's just as retarded as English

>> No.5276109

I doubt there are very many languages where that is the case, and the times where that is the case would likely be highly isolated tribal languages.

>> No.5276132

I can name 4 words for magic user in Russian.
I think you got it backwards, best languages have plenty of synonymous.

>> No.5276139

Only 4? That is surprisingly few for a european language, do you not use gendered words or are you perhaps not counting them?

>> No.5276152

My vocabulary shrunk pretty hard when I stopped reading books and mostly started reading internet.

>> No.5276157

In Poland there are at least 7 words for magic users as synonymous of the word "wizard"

>> No.5276172

Read books fren
Yep, it's such a major part of almost any even slightly sophisticated culture that it would be strange to only have one word. Even if there are languages with only one word (which I somewhat doubt) it would have to be the language of some hunter-gatherer tribe in the Kalahari desert or some small island in the pacific ocean.

>> No.5276219

Necromancers end up being the least unified faction, because its a bunch of Liches recruiting random people to run a empire.
Most of the melee commanders in HOMM is Liches, because its just a matter of using Soul Jars and bang: Immortality minus flesh

>> No.5276234

They're all just humans though, why are there no elf, dorf or troglodyte liches?

>> No.5276249

>european language
Cyrillic is just an asian equivalent of Latin.

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>> No.5276386

looks like his crooked teeth

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>> No.5276478

Are Might & Magic elves and dwarves long-lived? Human mages go for lichdom more because of the fear of death, beating mortality, and getting to continue pursuing their magic research.

>> No.5276480

Might &Magic is D&D clone so I guess so

>> No.5276483

There is a difference between synonymous (which is how it works in Russian) and random, autistic classification that makes no sense (English)

>> No.5276485

>Greek alphabeth

>> No.5276494

But what about the troglodytes? Or minotaurs? Cows only live like 20 years at most...

>> No.5276505

I doubt they are synonyms, if Russian is anything like most other European languages.

>> No.5276526

>which is how it works in Russian
Yeah, sure чepнoкнижник, вoлшeбник and кyдecник are totally interchangeable. Fuck off.

>> No.5276528

Minotaurs are abomination inbreed magical creatures.

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And that's how long they live

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>> No.5277194

HoMM 2 town musics are the best.

>> No.5277205

Иди нaхyй co cвoими cмищными кapтинкaми.

>> No.5277221

>Implying they aren't all pagan satanist that should burn
>Implying the difference between the first two isn't superflous

>> No.5277250

You can download HoMM2 from the pastebin and play it whenever you want or even search for the music on youtube.com if all you want to do is listen to it, hope this helps :)

>> No.5277252

No. First is a strictly negative term, second - neutral to positive.

>> No.5277278

I have the MP3 of the musics since early 2000.

>> No.5277970

sicknasty trailer and song
makes me want to try the game

>> No.5277976

sadly it's total shit

>> No.5278152

Found the pagan satanist to burn. On Christmas, no less!

>> No.5278163

Anus burn yourself, dog.

>> No.5278260

Stop feeding that idiot.

>> No.5278306

>the mage strives to let the skeleton out

>> No.5278405

it runs like shit on win10 though
inb4 >win10

>> No.5278568

Will Factory be as lore-friendly as Cove (Regnan Pirates)?

They look like a mix of tech-savy and barbarian. Maybe they're from the Krewlod-Bracada borderlands, like a rogue splinter faction. What do you think?

>> No.5278580

I don't see anything barbarian-ish about them. Currently they've shown off Gnomes(?), Flamethrower, Cowboys, and Wind-Serpents. I've been seeing people mention they're gnomes. I don't know M&M lore well, so I don't know where they place there.

I imagine they must have some lore explanation for them, I can't see them devoting so much time for something with no lore explanation at all.

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Eofol used to be the domain of Halflings before the Kreegans razed it, right? Maybe Factory is supposed to be Eofol after the Armageddon's Blade campaign. The Kreegans are gone and the midgets return to their scorched homeland.

>> No.5278650

What happens after the end of AB is that Enroth explodes though

>> No.5278656

I have a weird bug in MM8

I don't have dragons in character creation


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>> No.5278746

didn't help

>> No.5278894

Worked on my machine

>> No.5279325

sent you the solution in a pm ;)


>> No.5279478

>Only 4? That is surprisingly few for a european language, do you not use gendered words
Not him, but even without gendered words (which don't exist for every word) there's plenty of terms:
1. Maг mag "mage"
2. Boлшeбник volshébnik "sorcerer" / вoлшeбницa volshébnitsa "sorceress"
3. Кoлдyн koldún "wizard" / кoлдyнья koldún'ya "female wizard"
4. Чapoдeй charodéy "enchanter" / чapoдeйкa charodéyka "enchantress"
5. Beдьмa véd'ma "witch" / вeдьмaк ved'mák "witcher"
6. Beдyн vedún "witch doctor" / вeдyнья vedún'ya "female witch doctor"
7. Знaхapь znákhar' / знaхapкa znakhárka - synonymous with the previous one
8. Чepнoкнижник chernoknízhnik "warlock" / чepнoкнижницa chernoknízhnitsa "female warlock"
9. Шaмaн shamán / шaмaнкa shamánka - self-explanatory

>> No.5280551

Yes, the "i lost it" code in the mirror. So the codes only works in their respective worlds? Like codes for warping to certain cities in Cloud must be done in Cloud mirrors? Code for warping to certain cities in Darkside must be done in Darkside mirrors?
I don't remember either. I used the default party in MM3, MM4 and MM5. Also in Sword of Xeen, I think. The Ranger/Druid has some unique spells like Water Walking. The default party in MM3 doesn't have Ranger/Druid and I picked the Archer in first town and another knight in second town. I almost stucked because the Swimming skill only let me travel near the shore. I think I use the magic etherealize to move move to the sea from the shore. And I think I had to recast the spell everytime I move from 1 square to another in the sea (no water walking). I remember trying to use etherealize near the edge of the screen (the black area), my party fell to their death.

>> No.5280623

Yes the mirror codes are unique across the 2 games and only apply to the one you are in.

Water walking is the only spell even worth noting in the druidic school in MM3(all unique druid spells were moved to the sorcerer or clierical schools in Xeen) and as noted you get around that with Etherialize. If you had to have it you can always hire the Ranger in Wildabar, cast Water Walk, and then dismiss. Nature's Gate was the only other really distinct spell and that wasn't much more useful than regular Town Portal even on the right day. The only new places you could get to without existing Mirror Codes or Town Portal were Castle Blackwind and Castle Greywind (and only on the specific day of the week), which were optional anyway because the sequencing codes were already given by the lion statues in the pyramid by Baywatch.

>> No.5280645

>map has you start in the middle of a fuckhuge swamp
>But there's a witch hut next to your town, conveniently placed to give you Pathfinding!
>...yet it gives you Eagle Eye

>> No.5280648

Save first before visiting a witch hut. Or use a secondary hero to check the hut.

>> No.5280652

I always use scouts to check the huts. That's not the problem. It's just... why not set the town to Fortress at that point? It's the only one you can really play with at that point.

>> No.5280657

which map?

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>> No.5280676

Шaмaн is just writing a foreign word with the russian alphabet.
Чepнoкнижник is just black-book-man, it might as well mean accountant.
At this rate, you should've put illusionist on the list, or miracle-doer.

>> No.5280678

Elves are long lived because of lolmagic.
Dwarves are long lived, because they live slow (ex. turtle). Their metabolism and heart rate are slow, and they are slow moving and slow thinking slow beings for which time passes slow.
Lizards are short lived, because they are fast thinking, fast moving, twitchy and fast metabolizing and regenerating.

>> No.5280682

>Greek alphabet
You are thinking of glagolitic, which is an alphabet the greeks invented so that the slavs can write down the sounds of their language. Except it was shit, so the bulgarians reworked it heavily to create the cyrillic alphabet. Its named after Cyril, creator of the glagolitic, but it isn't the glagolitic, and isn't greek.

>> No.5280689

> it might as well mean accountant
And "wizard" just as well mean "wise man". You are retarded.

>> No.5280735

>Чepнoкнижник is just black-book-man, it might as well mean accountant
>It's a "let me tell about your language" episode
You're retarded.

>> No.5280741

Okay, let me list more russian words for magic user:

>> No.5280752

you really are retarded

>> No.5280757

>Being this fucking retarded
>And in the same time autistic
But the best part is that you are simply wrong

>> No.5280759

>Чepнoкнижник is just black-book-man, it might as well mean accountant.
Are you an idiot? This word refers specifically to someone who works with dark, unholy literature. I mean, yes, accountaints do that too, but we're talking about magic users here.
Okay, you are an idiot. Folowing your logic, English is just a bunch of foreign words and not a language by itself.

>> No.5280762

What part of that post is wrong? Everything checks out.

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Black-book-man be he uses the black book of black magic

>> No.5280768

It's not the first time with this philology bullshit, are you guys bunch of linguistics majors?

>> No.5280779

"Shaman" was an Evenki word originally, btw.

>> No.5280780

If you're debating the HoMM series on an image board for total losers, it's likely that you're an Eastern European who got good at languages through exposure to western video games and yet never attempted to steer your exceptional aptitude with computers towards something profitable, instead you just cruised along on high English grades in school and now no one wants to hire your shitty philologist ass, so you just shitpost on 4chan at 12 AM. In perfect English.

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>> No.5280794

Jokes on you I learned English only after uni.

>> No.5280797

>Greeks taking their alphabeth and adapting it into Slavic languages
>Then doing re-do on that to fix things up
>Ultimately still Greek alphabeth adopted for Slav languages
>T-totally not Greek!
Be a retard somewhere else. Not only your entire "argument" boils down to nit-picking, but said nit-picking is just plain wrong. It wasn't even the Bulgars who worked on it (being fucking illiterate at that point to begin with), you absolute moron.
I guess Poles aren't using Latin alphabeth either, because it has diacritics in it.

>> No.5280802

read a book lol

>> No.5280806

I'm a pharmacist. Picked this job PRECISELY because I can shitpost on 4chan at 12 AM, while being at work and nobody bats an eye on it. Or reading books. Or doing crosswords.

>> No.5280809
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Educate yourself on subjects you are trying to sound smug about

>> No.5280814

But I have, and I am trying to educate you too.
The greeks were trying to spread christianity to the slavs. This wasn't working out too well, because the greek alphabet can't write down the slavic sounds. So they created an alphabet that was a modified greek one, and tried again. It didn't work again. Then the illiterate bulgars at the illiterate Preslav University created an alphabet that actually works for both slavic speech and christian terms, and named it after Cyril, the author of the earlier glagolitic script.

Literally 2 minutes in Google.
inb4 its still greek, even though neither can slavs read anything in greek or the opposite

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>It's modified Greek
>N-no, it's not Greek at all, it's modified!
>Which I said
>E-educate yourself!

>> No.5280823

I don't get what you two are arguing about. Both Cyrillic and Latin alphabets was based on Greek. Nether can be called "Asian", Asia starts at Ural and Caucasus mountain chains.

>> No.5280838

Right, and a surgeon is a modified шaмaн. Fucking imbecile.

>> No.5280841

Let me get this straight:
You are complaining about anon being uneducated, while your own knowledge on the subject comes from googling it and reading wikipedia article?
Can we all laugh already at the irony of this? Or is there something more?

>> No.5280843

It's just another episode of "Russians are Asian, ha!"
The fun part is how it's still night-time in States, so that kind of shitpost is kind of out of place right now

>> No.5280845

Where did I say my knowledge is from Googling? Where did he say his isn't?
Why are you attempting to reason, when you are illiterate?

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In the very post I'm replying to?

>> No.5280856

No. Your reading compression is poor.

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Hello faggots. I have a request.
Many years ago, when playing WOGified HIII I played one scenario based on LOTR. It was very cool map and I would love to find it again, but can't seem to, and everything I find seems to be not that thing.
I mostly remember Evil Side stuff. I remember you could play as Mordor [Inferno+Necropolis+maybe some stronghold] (which also controlled Dol Guldur), Easterlings, Isengard [fortress] (which had it's own underground isolated chamber full of mines and golem factories and shit) and maybe Harad I think.
Good guys were definitelly Gondor, Rohan, and Rivendell but there must have been something else.
Other details I remember: shelob was hidden in the undergrounds under Mordor and was in fact OP Blue Dragon. And you could set free two wizards from Rhun.
Other than that each player had big stacks of units mixed from different factions from the beginning.
Anyone heard, anyone knows?
Map was almost certainly for 8 players.

>> No.5281204

I only recall one LOTR map where you start with Gandalf in the Undying Lands before heading out to the Shire. Then you pretty much just follow the plot of the books. But it doesn't sound like the one you described.

Have you tried these

>> No.5281402

Brand new HOMM3 player here.
Can someone hold my hand for selecting scenery, faction, and the first couple of turns? I can't find any good beginner's guide on the webs. They all seem to assume you're at least somewhat capable and very quickly go into more advanced mechanics of the game.

I mean, do I need to expand quickly? Should I attack every monster on the map? What buildings are a priority? I have literally no idea what I'm doing.

>> No.5281412

>usually good idea to buy many heroes, but not so many that you can't use them effectively
>almost always build as many creature dwellings as possible first week and aim to get get citadel/castle if possible, some factions have exceptions like Necro with skeleton farming
>buy heroes with good specialties or good skills that offer an immediate benefit, but always buy the first two heroes in the first week to get more creatures
>only take fights you can win or that you really, really have to, avoid fighting things that shoot if possible
>for most factions, your priority is to get some kind of shooting creature to help you clear enemies, but for some factions upgraded tier 1s are also good here

>> No.5281424

Thank you. What's the recommended faction for a beginner? And what speciality or heroes should I be looking for? I know humans have archers. Can they fill the shooter slot?

>> No.5281434

I would say Castle is the most straightforward faction, so play with them a little. And yes shooters = any creature that shoots. For specialties it's not really that big of a deal outside of multiplayer, but the best ones are offense, armorer, archery, logistics. Creature specialties are ok. Tier 1 specialties can be very powerful at the start and so can spell specialties. Might class heroes are usually better than magic class. Heroes that specialize in a resource and gold in particular are nice as secondaries.

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>> No.5281453

I mostly agree with >>5281434 , but I think you should also definitely take Rampart for a few spins, mostly because Ivor is an excellent "training wheels" hero in a faction that's also fairly cheap, straightforward to play, and solid all around.
Upgrade to Grand Elves fast, put them in the first or last slot in your army, and surround them with Centaurs and Dwarves. This is a very simple way to make a very powerful, self-sufficient army in the first few days, while teaching you basic tactics like protecting your archers.
And what other anon says about
>Might class heroes are usually better than magic class.
is generally true, but do remember that magic is one of your most powerful weapons and any hero should use it. You are, after all, playing Heroes of Might & Magic. Your Barbarian is also going to be a very adept spellcaster over time, and while most bread & butter spells are the low level buffs and debuffs like Slow, Haste, Bless, Stoneskin, any hero will end up appreciating Resurrect, Implosion, Fly, Town Portal and Dimension Door.

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read the pastebin

>> No.5281472

>Don't hire heroes with specializations in war machines or these skills
But Gurnisson and (in HotA) Jeremy are pretty damn ridiculous starters. They require some specific micro, but still.
War machines can also often be used for AI manipulation to get a free 250 HP tank.
Scholar and Scouting are good secondary hero skills and Leadership isn't even much of a dealbreaker.
>Fortress town doesn't have penalty points for swamp terrain
And neither does Tower for Snow or whatever, but the point here is that it really sucks to take external units (like, say, Angels from Convs) into the Fortress native terrain. Or just bonus armies from other heroes.
>Fire Magic
>omits Berserk
>Water Magic
>weakest one
It's very strong in large, campaign-like XL maps because Bless, Cure, Prayer are generally superior
Its impact on week 1 combat or end-game battles can't be understated at all
>doesn't mention Sprite upgrade
>"Never take these units iwth your main hero"
>Tower: Gremlins
Are you serious?
>Dungeon: Troglodytes
>Stronghold: Goblins
>Conflux: Pixies???
How do you plan on fighting in the first week?

This is well-intentioned and has bits of good info, but ultimately flawed and misleading.

>> No.5281476

Lot of questionable shit on here lmao

>> No.5282087

>In some campaigns you can't hire units
>What is Month of X
>Where a quick and nimble scout with diplomacy suddenly can gather 1000-3000 tier 1 units, and far far far more devious armies

>> No.5282594

Week 1 Luna + Fire Wall + Pixies strategy.

>> No.5283060
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I asked how do you plan to fight in the first week without Pixies, so your answer is to use a spellcaster-oriented strategy that... requires Pixies to work.

>> No.5283948

you do not know the joy of casting berserk on enemy dendroids and have them root half his army.

also does anyone have a link to a xxl maps mod? Links in http://heroescommunity.com/viewthread.php3?TID=32264 are expired

>> No.5283958

>thanks bro will give them a try
Please do! In case you want to merge the two maps or copy the concept to another map, you can follow these instructions:

>> No.5283981

Might heroes of Magic heroes?

>> No.5284014

Might except at the very beginning.

>> No.5284028

Most of the time Might overall, as might skills and specialties scale really well whereas Magic heroes get offered terrible skills. However, there's a handful of really strong magic heroes with an early game edge (Luna, Grindan, Thant, Solmyr) or intelligence specialists (Andra, Elleshar). The former can dominate the early game with their spells and leverage it into a strong position, but their position is a bit more tenuous and more susceptible to artifacts like Red Orb or Recanter's Cloak. The latter rely on having near-infinite spell points to travel everywhere and simply Implode / Resurrect / Summon Earth on everything. Of course this is very costly and hard to get, as mage guilds and other rewards are random, and you're still susceptible to magic-nerfing artifacts.

Might wins most of the time. Magic is great for early game skirmishes and very very late-game where your hero can literally just Fly around with a handful of Dragons and spam Armageddon, ergo it requires things to work out in your favor much more.

>> No.5284034

It's not just about skills, it's about stats as well

>> No.5284042

Yeah, that too. Advancing mainly in Attack and Defense is going to matter more in mid-game battles (and other stuff, like taking an Utopia) whereas most playstyles only need enough SP and Knowledge to have decently lasting level 1 buffs.

>> No.5284064

>I wish that area was a bit bigger and had some more enemy variety.
this pretty much sums the whole mm7 to me specially the dungeons

>> No.5284505

I understand why in pvp games creature dwelling are built first and you need 8 heroes right from the start, but what about single player scenarios? Maps are often poor without hives/conservatories, little to no free resources, guards everywhere. Maybe it's better to build economical buildings first here?

>> No.5284603

You mean random map or pre-made map here?
Because that makes a fuck-huge difference

>> No.5284607

Pre-made scenarios like that infamous "war of sexes".

>> No.5284610

Then it literally depends on the map itself. Each scenario is more or less unique.

>> No.5284659

This. Even in certain campaign scenarios you will likely get absolutely cucked if you wait for more than 2-3 weeks to attack, while others you can practically speaking fuck around for months.

>> No.5285143

>waited for new succ wars version since dawn of time
>its finally out!
>finally launching the exe and bam "D:\Soft\Programming\Delphi\Source\SRC\Units\_OLDER_\GameExt.pas" on line 122.
Error at address:$56D0ADC

halp me anons

>> No.5285156

>started the project 5 years ago.
>released a beta full of bugs.
Wait another 5 years, anon.

>> No.5285162
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No campaigns yet, lol

>> No.5285163

Hey idiot, why don't you just play heroes 2 instead

>> No.5285293
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spanking a fairy

>> No.5286226
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If it crashes before launching the game, have you tried installing hd mod over succ wars and putting the line <Fix.Cosmetic> = 0 in the tweaks? And make sure you install succ wars over a clean install of SoD or complete. If that doesn't work I don't know how to help.

>started the project 5 years ago.
The thing is already 10 years old, 5 years ago was the previous "release".

Also can anyone tell me if they can generate random maps?

>> No.5286342

So this is the origin of this fetish?

>> No.5286352

This scene and the one where she squeezes through the keyhole are the two that come to mind when I look back at this movie.

>> No.5286607

I think random map worked for me, will check again when I get home.
Also, succ is not really playable for me until they fix the random enemy unit spawns.

>> No.5287098

Succ is a reddit mod

>> No.5287106

>Succ is a meme mod

I'm actually amazed there are people who seriously are waiting for this mod.

>> No.5287243
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>> No.5287257
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>Legion of phoenixes

>> No.5287287

Sorry, Crag is always better unless you are playing an unrealistically long game.

>> No.5287308

Funny, since it's the exact reverse.

Crag is always better, period. +30% damage + level scaling (so +1.5%/lvl) vs -15% damage reduction + level scaling (so -.75%/lvl). You would need to have Crag being half the level of Tazar for them to even be equal.

>> No.5287327

No, there is a point where Tazar takes 1 damage from literally everything, but he has to be lvl 80+

>> No.5287328

Isn't it like
Lots -> Throng -> Many -> Legion?
Which is like 50+ -> 90+ -> 150+ -> 200+

>> No.5287359
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No, that's wrong. I don't know the correct answer either without looking it up though.
>mfw played this game for 10+ years and still don't know this stuff by heart
I still occasionally fuck up the army management for creature banks as well

>> No.5287450

From memory, if (0,0) is top left:
0,0 - Dawn? Wizard town HOMM2
0,1 - Don't know
0,2 - Don't know
0,3 - Don't know
0,4 - Joji? Barbarian HOMM1
0,5 - Don't know
0,6 - Forgot name Necromancer town HOMM2
1,0- Astra
1,1 - Aaaa forgot name. Warlock HOMM1/2
1,2 - Sir Gallant
1.3 - Crag Hack
1.4 - Forgot name
1,5 - Don't know
1,6 - Don't know
1,7 - Don't know
1,8 - Don't know
1,9 - Condragon, HOMM2 campaign
2,0 - Not even sure!
2,1 - Roland, HOMM2 campaign
2,2 - Forgot name, Knight town HOMM1/2
2,3 - Rebecca :) HOMM1/2
3,0 - Don't know
3,1 - Archib*ld, HOMM2 campaign
3,2 - To think of it,t his might be Sir Gallant instead of 1,2
3,3 - Don't know
3,4 - Don't know
3,5 - Can't recall name, Necromancer town, HOMM2
3,6 - Forgot name, Necromancer town, HOMM2 campaign

>> No.5287460

Very close to this
Few - 1-5
Several ~ 5 - 15
Lots - 20 - 50
Horde - 50 - 200
Thorg - 200 - 500
Legion - 500+

>> No.5287472

I actually looked it up, it is:
Few 1–4
Several 5–9
Pack 10–19
Lots 20–49
Horde 50–99
Throng 100–249
Swarm 250–499
Zounds 500–999
Legion 1000–4000

>> No.5287501

So much for remembering it right. Couldn't get half the heroes right either, and just replayed Roland's campaign last year. The beauty and magic of this game will persevere forever

>> No.5287630

You know reaching level this high is close to impossible, right? In any realistic situation, reaching level 30 is a great feat by itself. If you are playing a single player and clearing the map yourself, 45-50 is where you will stop.
So sure, Tazar on paper can reach that point. But in practical terms 50% is what you are looking at at best. And Crag STILL overcomes it with sheer damage increase on his side in 1-on-1 fight.

>> No.5287635

Yeah that's what I said in the first place, but some people will actually claim Tazar is better than Crag because of that theoretical possibility. And no, Crag's damage increase doesn't help here as he would take 1 damage from literally everything you could possibly throw at him.

>> No.5287667

Only at 80+. So if the damage reduction is around 50% and Crag got 90% damage increase at level 60, as long as it's going to be melee damage, it will still deal crapload of extra damage, overcoming the reduction.

>> No.5287670

Sorry, Crag will have 90% damage increase at lvl 40. Which makes Tazar even weaker in such comparison.

>> No.5287676
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No, the damage reduction reduces everything to 1. I was wrong though, it's actually level 114 (capped out armorer), so even more ridiculous kek


>> No.5287681

My point is that in real combat situation, Tazar will never have big enough damage reduction, while Crag will deal fuckload of extra damage, balancing things or outright give him an edge.

>> No.5287703

Yes I know, that's what I was saying in the first place, saying Tazar is only better if you are playing an unrealistically long game allowing you to reach that kind of levels :)

>> No.5289189

I always thought Lots was 20-39.

>> No.5290365
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Manticore's in MM7 exist only at the Arena


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