Daggerfall AI-enhanced textures

[Anonymous No.5252017]

https://forums.dfworkshop.net/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=1642&start=20

What do you think /vr/?

[Anonymous No.5252019]

>>5252017

[Anonymous No.5252027]

>>5252019

[Anonymous No.5252045]

>>5252017
>https://forums.dfworkshop.net/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=1642&start=20
very cool but ive been keeping up on daggerfall for awhile. those that dont know this will be a nice thread to show them hey guys round 2 if you've wanted to go back

[Anonymous No.5252046]

The daggerfall unity project just got 4x more interesting.

[Anonymous No.5252058]

Here is a zoom in on what the AI did to show how impressive it is.

[Anonymous No.5252068]

Topaz AI is ridiculous

[Anonymous No.5252094]

>>5252017
we have a thread for this >>5230316
BUT SWEET SUCCuLENT AND DELICIOUS DIBELLA!

Now i want gavin to finish up this ASAP!

[Anonymous No.5252160]

>>5252068
>ishygddt

[Anonymous No.5252174]

>>5252160
the future of humanity when AI takes over.

[Anonymous No.5252185]

>>5252017
>>5252019
>>5252027
>>5252046
>>5252058
>>5252068
It bothers the fuck out of me that people post this as if bilinear scaling wasn't already a thing that accounts for 90% of these enhancements.

[Anonymous No.5252192]

>>5252185
post a bilinear of this

[Anonymous No.5252205]

>>5252192
I would do it gladly if you tell me where I can find the original sprite.

[Anonymous No.5252210]

>>5252017
Not this shit again...

[Anonymous No.5252213]

>>5252205
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=37&t=14386

[Anonymous No.5252216]

>>5252192

This is fucking incredible.

[Anonymous No.5252220]

>>5252017
>>5252019
>>5252027
>>5252046
>>5252058
>>5252068
>>5252192

Still needs work

[Anonymous No.5252226]

>>5252185
Stop mass replying, you fucking idiot. If you dont like it just close the tab, sperg.

[Anonymous No.5252230]

>>5252226
I only have three posts in this thread, retard. Look at what (You) made me do now. And if I post here to shit on this scaling, it is because it is awful and overrated.

[Anonymous No.5252292]

>>5252046
>Tree becomes a petrified wood thing with lava flowing through its veins.

That's pretty fucking metal.

[Anonymous No.5252397]

This is nothing special. You guys are so simple that you get excited over nothing.

[Anonymous No.5252419]

>>5252017

That is legitimately cool as fuck.

[Anonymous No.5252426]

>>5252419
ingame test example with some esrgan based pipeline

[Anonymous No.5252485]

Did this revolutionalize retrogaming in single night? Looks like so. Man what the actual fuck. I'm so fucking amazed.
Me right now:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YersIyzsOpc

[Anonymous No.5252496]

>>5252485
Some sonic fan guy already did a full texture pack for sonic adventure 2 using gigapixel

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mwp3nwtOmvs

[Anonymous No.5252509]

>>5252496
Looks amazing. Just little bit more and we have technology from the CSI - "computer, ENHANCE!". Government agencies probably have already something cool running on huge renderfarms though.
But this is really fantastic. Now we just need to wait and people will generate all kinds of texture packs for various games. Of course it's not always that successful but this technique combined with manual editing here and there will make a huge difference.
Now what I would love to see is that someone going over Resident Evil 4 and making this guy's work obsolete. He worked for years to redo the texture work from scratch. http://www.re4hd.com/
I would love to see his face when someone uploads a video of automatic hd conversion of Resident Evil 4... *evil laughter*

[Anonymous No.5252525]

>>5252509
It already does a better job than most remasters / hd versions. Most just give a larger zoom out and dont upscale at all.

[Anonymous No.5252548]

How long till we just press a button, and the AI does the whole game for you??

[Anonymous No.5252552]

>>5252019
did it just automatically add all those veins by itself b/c jesus

[Anonymous No.5252565]

>>5252552
yes but you can see when it messes up too

look at the top middle potted plant here
>>5252027

the ai guessed it was part of the shelf

[Anonymous No.5252791]

>>5252017
Show me how it's made all the pixel tits look.

[Anonymous No.5252850]

>>5252017
Ok seriously, how the FUCK is this possible?

[Anonymous No.5252863]

>>5252027
>>5252192
These are clear downgrades, thought it's amazing how little cleanup would actually be required. I wish someone posted that one prerendered Resident Evil background with this filter, it's perfection.

[Anonymous No.5252884]

>>5252226
these clowns get triggered in every single one of these threads and it's fuckin hilarious

just accept that this tech is going to make retro remastering a hell of a lot faster and easier even if there's a flaw or two guys

[Anonymous No.5252892]

>>5252185
kys retard

[Anonymous No.5252893]

>>5252791
this is what i've been waiting for

[Anonymous No.5252908]

>>5252850
you feed a bazillion low-res + high-res image pairs to a dumb machine to develop an approximation of what pattern of detail corresponds to which low-res pixels and then you can give it images that only exist in low-res and have it extrapolate what a high-res version might look like.

[Anonymous No.5252919]

>>5252509
>Just little bit more and we have technology from the CSI - "computer, ENHANCE!".
wow, we used an ai to enhance the reflection in the victim's glasses and the murderer turned out to be... the guy from the stock photos in our neural network training set! what a remarkable coincidence! but how could he have done it when he's already in prison for the last twelve murders we solved with this method?

[Anonymous No.5252923]

>>5252919
loled to this

[Anonymous No.5252926]

>>5252213

Don’t bother, >>5252205 won’t be back

[Anonymous No.5252927]

>>5252919
Top kek

[Anonymous No.5252982]

>>5252017
depends, but I think highres textures on lowpoly geo looks goofy af.

[Anonymous No.5253029]

>>5252068
But people don't have ribcages for skulls

[Anonymous No.5253118]

>>5252185
and poking out your eyes gives you 20/20 vision right

[Anonymous No.5253307]

>>5252982
these are sprites though

[Anonymous No.5253335]

>>5252213
Where, exactly? I click on the link but all links are either dead or take me to the beastiary, and I can't find that creature.

What's the creature's name?
>>5252926
I'm back.
>>5252509
Nothing will ever surpass dedicated craftsmanship. AI-generation for textures, just like using filters or any kind, results in worse textures than redoing them by hand. Look at this image, for instance >>5252068 Right looks pixelated, but left is plain ugly. It doesn't look natural because it was made by a computer. It needs to be redone entirely.

[Anonymous No.5253350]

>>5253307
and they look goofy af

[Anonymous No.5254670]

>>5252791
This is the reason I clicked on this thread

[Anonymous No.5255010]

original

[Anonymous No.5255014]

>>5255010
my bad this is the original

[Anonymous No.5255705]

https://forums.dfworkshop.net/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=1642&start=40

A full texture HD upgrade was posted on page 5
you can try it out, main bug right now is tiling not lining up 100%

BEFORE

[Anonymous No.5255707]

>>5255705
after

w/ download link from Freak2121

[Anonymous No.5255713]

before

[Anonymous No.5255715]

>>5255713

[Anonymous No.5255736]

>>5255713
>>5255715
The difference is so small at a glance that I'd rather stick with the vanilla textures to be frank.

[Anonymous No.5255750]

>>5255736
isn't that the a good thing? Better definition for free.

[Anonymous No.5255752]

>>5252525
kek this

[Anonymous No.5255754]

>>5255715
>>5255713
Tiling is so fucked, this can only work in some situations. Give it a rest, come back in 10 years.

[Anonymous No.5255757]

>>5255754
>come back in 10 years

are you a troll or something

[Anonymous No.5255759]

Just saying because there are fuck tons of ways to fix that tiling issue

[Anonymous No.5255814]

>>5252525
that's a nice post number you got there.

[Anonymous No.5255882]

>>5255750
The thing is that the people who claim it looks better seem to have a different definition of "better". I look at both pictures and there's no doubt the latter has more detail. But it is fake detail, and you can tell the textures look bruteforced as opposed to designed from scratch while matching the original aesthetic.

[Anonymous No.5255886]

>>5255882
it keeps most of the original ascetic, there are some problems but it's good for an early run. It's not like it's a finished texture. The potential is obvious to people with imagination.

[Anonymous No.5255906]

>>5255010
It doesn't seem to play well with text.

[Anonymous No.5255923]

>>5252850
99% of AI is "Here's 582750827358972 guidelines on how to do this"

[Anonymous No.5256079]

Can you do this with colour?

Like for training, down sample some SNES sprites to 4 colours. Then run the model against NES sprites and get 16 colour versions.

[Anonymous No.5256087]

>>5255923
It's because it's in a weird area between completely retarded and super impressive in some small cases.

It's a different trade off
- Low programming time / no programming time (use existing architecture)
- High clean data requirement
- high computational power requirement for training

This is very different than what people are used to in digital programs which usually require high programming time and not much else. So the results are surprising and it's capabilities different than what they expect. It can either be viewed as magical or simple and boring because it is so lopsided in application. Can do narrow things unbelievably if everything is just right.

[Anonymous No.5256092]

>>5256087
Also of note, this is why it's very useful for retro games. Ideally we want to minimize human time for retro games and we happen to have ML architectures and computational power in droves for such old graphics. It's a perfect fit in many ways (besides pixelart)

[Anonymous No.5256093]

Are there videos of the game running with all textures like this?

[Anonymous No.5256101]

>>5256093
you can make one, link is in the thread (texture swap no sprites)

[Anonymous No.5256103]

>>5256092
Hmm, so now an indie developer can just create a blurry mess and let the AI turn it into something beautiful.

[Anonymous No.5256106]

>>5256103
And I suppose you could create a shitty two finger melody on a keyboard and get an AI to put in all the other instruments and turn it into a tune.

[Anonymous No.5256110]

>>5256103
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ayPqjPekn7g

kind of

[Anonymous No.5256117]

>>5256110
nvidia hypes things up a lot though, but basically they just are doing something like deepfakes for "trees" and "buildings".

[Anonymous No.5256147]

>>5252565
no it didn't. it just made the pot the same color as the shelf like original

[Anonymous No.5256516]

>>5255906
To be fair that's a really shitty jpg and it's picking up the artifacts, producing detail where there should be none.

[Anonymous No.5257432]

Is this a program or website we can just use and run shit through? No one's ever going to finish the Doom high res texture pack and this could complete the damn thing so 3-1 doesn't look like shit anymore.

[Anonymous No.5257454]

Am I the only one who thinks this is bullshit?

I don't think an AI is doing this. It's too creative, the changes are too specific, I don't see how an AI could recognize everything and redrawn it so well. Seems like sci-fi to me. One example is >>5252019, and as >>5252552 points out, it's unbelievable. Has an AI that people are using for retro video games successfully theorized gargoyle biology and understood that it would have veins there?

Either someone is full of shit, or Skynet is literally around the corner. I think the former is a lot more probable.

[Anonymous No.5257476]

>>5252509
You won't surpass his work with an AI, maybe in 20 years.

[Anonymous No.5257585]

>>5257454
You realise it's available to download and use right? That's the whole reason this thread was posted in the first place, the AI wasn't made for Daggerfall your know.

[Anonymous No.5258251]

>>5257585
I didn't realize that. But okay, that's a good thing: can someone find that gargoyle picture and make a Youtube video of it being done?

Show me the Gargoyle of Skynet, /vr/. AIPill me

[Anonymous No.5258293]

>>5257454
I don't think this is like ESRGAN or the other AI upscalers that have been posted recently, where it's purely just doing comparisons against one trained database. Topaz first tries to identify what the image is (or parts of the image) and then uses a database trained with whatever the subject is. Like pic related, it identified a skeleton, so it's upscaling the image using a neural network of skeleton images, which means it can add in the appropriate detail.

[Anonymous No.5258361]

>>5252017
>https://forums.dfworkshop.net/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=1642&start=20

Is this for Daggerfall vanilla or Daggerfall Unity?

[Anonymous No.5259963]

>>5252426
This looks like it could realistically have been done with AI

>>5252017
>>5252019
This is the work of a human artist

[Anonymous No.5259980]

Now if someone with modeling skills would redo some of the wireframes with a bunch more polygons, you'd have one hell of a game

[Anonymous No.5260064]

>>5253335
oh my god shut the fuck up

[Anonymous No.5260101]

>>5259980
>someone do
what a shitty way of admitting that you are a lazy/untalented cunt

[Anonymous No.5260130]

>>5255707
>>5255713
>>5255715
>daggerfall unity
please stop discrediting yourself, anon

[Anonymous No.5260176]

>>5253335
>Nothing will ever surpass dedicated craftsmanship
t. turbo luddite
Anything you can do can be done better by a trained AI.

>b-b-b-but p-p-people w-will r-r-RESPECT authentic HUMAN made things more!
according to your biased view. You're a product of a generation, your generation. People born today will grow up into a world where they will give zero shits about your kind.

[Anonymous No.5260281]

>>5252017
Looks great.

[Anonymous No.5260305]

>>5260176
>Anything you can do can be done better by a trained AI.
Sorry, art is not one of them. It's not about
>r-r-RESPECT
or any strawman you can come up with.