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DOOM THREAD / RETRO FPS THREAD - Last thread >>5236353

DOOM/II/ULTIMATE/FINAL/64/CHEX/QUAKE/DUKE/ETC
Gameplay, WADs/Maps/Mods, Source Ports
All other retro FPS welcome
~~ Let's post like gentlemen ~~

FAQ/PASTEBIN
http://pastebin.com/hzDnLpct

SO YOU WANT TO PLAY SOME...
Doom, Quake, Duke, Marathon, or Thief:
https://imgur.com/a/wWS8zXz
-Album of infographics with setup information and user-made content recommendations

Same thing, but in video format:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ietb4JwaaXA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CGj4gXyCzg0

IWADs and more (>3 GB): https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B47V8l2eVZKxRU82S3JkZkdBRXM
PortaDOOM: https://github.com/Kroc/PortaDOOM/releases
Quake pastebin (2016-06-22): http://pastebin.com/XjBHDRFw
Downloads for various /vr/ shooters. (Includes Duke Nukem, Doom, Blood, and Quake.)
https://mega.nz/#F!QXIk1bjB!NHRWGIfjcc77PyGgRlga4Q

Doom RPG series
https://doomrpg.weebly.com/

Launchers for Build Engine games
http://buildgamedosboxlaunchers.weebly.com/

== INFO/LINKS ==

OFFICIAL DOOM WIKI
http://doomwiki.org/

WHERE TO FIND WADS
Vanilla/Boom: https://www.doomworld.com/forum/4-wads-mods/
ZDoom: http://forum.zdoom.org/viewforum.php?f=19
/idgames: https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/

TUTORIALS/UTILITIES
https://pastebin.com/7vKYWYp0

RESOURCES
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewforum.php?f=37

== /VR/DOOM COMMUNITY ==

THREAD ARCHIVES
https://desuarchive.org/vr/search/text/%22doom%20thread%22/type/op/

MAKING NEW THREADS PROPERLY
https://pastebin.com/yzwgaLp7

IMAGE DATABASE
http://vrdoom.booru.org/?page=post&s=list

OUR WADS
http://pastebin.com/5sKRiJzS
http://pastebin.com/aiEgdB3K

>> No.5245572

=== ONGOING ===

[12-24] 100 Minutes of /vr/ now has a test version available
http://www.mediafire.com/file/depjoz6gicgnb8x/100minvr_v_0_1.wad/file

=== NEWS ===

[12-24] Hellshots Golf sees a formal release
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qEHK4iBiXc
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=61021

[12-16] Doomsday's 2.1 update released
http://blog.dengine.net/2018/12/doomsday-2-1-released/

[12-15] BloodGDX and WitchavenGDX both updated
http://m210.duke4.net/

[12-13] Spram's Metroid Doom
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/102880-sprams-metroid-doom-released/

[12-13] Eric releases 'Corruptor of Humanity', a multiplayer gamemode for Hideous Destructor
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=62875

[12-10] John Romero announces a new megawad, Sigil
https://www.romerogames.ie/sigil/

[12-10] Cacowards 2018
https://www.doomworld.com/cacowards/2018/

[12-10] Doomworld's 'Top 100 Memorable Maps' and 'Top 25 Missed Cacowards'
https://www.doomworld.com/25years/top-100-memorable-maps/
https://www.doomworld.com/25years/top-25-missed-cacowards/

[12-10] Ashes: Dead Man Walking, an expansion campaign for Ashes 2063, released
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=62707

[12-10] PSXDOOM / PSXFINALDOOM / DOOM64 on GZDoom (Master Edition) released
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/94139-release-psxdoom-psxfinaldoom-doom64-on-gzdoom-gec-master-edition-dec-10-2018/

[12-10] Half-Life documentary published by Noclip
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BQLEW1c-69c

[12-10] SM189, a Quake map pack using exclusively Doom textures, released
http://celephais.net/board/view_thread.php?id=61660

[12-10] Eviternity released to celebrate Doom's 25th birthday
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/103425-release-eviternity-rc1/

[12-10] Doom's 25th anniversary

=== PREVIOUS ===

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=== PROTIP ===

To submit news, please reply and anchor it to this post.

>> No.5245583
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Merry Christmas, all

>> No.5245648

I've been away a while and came back with a brand new updated gzdoom build to play Diabolus Ex. Am I a brainlet or did they break binding ctrl to, well, anything? I'm too old to learn how to use C to crouch.
Oh yeah, and merry Christmas, /vr/os.

>> No.5245649

Hey anons, Hunter's Moon Version 3.0 has been released! https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=30942

[Spoiler]It now has a PBR Add-on too[/Spoiler]

>> No.5245651

>>5245649(me)
My god, i am dumb to forgot how 2 spoilertag

>> No.5245687
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Objective ranking:

Qualitatively superior: Plutonia 2

1. Plutonia

2. TNT

3. Doom 2

The architecture of Plutonia 2 is simply unmatched, in Doom and probably in video games in general. Though there are many wads with more surface area, longer corridors, more doors, and more secrets, all of them tend to sprawl, both as fundamental design and as a means of mitigating otherwise poor design. Points of interest are separated either by lack of interest, like empty corridors, or mindless quantity, like clumps of monsters or pointlessly long distances. Nothing comes as close to making its whole as relevant and challenging as its most relevant and challenging parts as Plutonia 2 does. Poetic descriptions like "baroque", though apt, are unnecessary. The whole thing wastes fewer square-units than the average level of lesser wads.

>> No.5245690

>>5245651
protip:
ctrl+s

>> No.5245695

>>5245572
>Hellshots Golf

How have I never heard of this before?

>> No.5245703

I asked this pretty late in the last thread, so I’ll try one more time here.

Are there any Doom source ports (or other retro FPS ports) with a “quick rewind” feature? So for example, you can hold down a key and the game will run backwards in real-time until you release the key, at which point the game resumes its normal operation.

(Someone mentioned Duke3D for XBLA, but I’m looking for open-source PC ports)

Similarly, are there any with “slow” and “turbo” functions that can also be activated by holding down a key?

>> No.5245734

Do you have any Christmas traditions for gaming and/or 4chan?

I always read the storytime of this: >>>/co/104888160

>> No.5245737

Any wads that "speed up gameplay" without going to far off vanilla?
I'm talking about faster firing weapons / more aggressive enemies

>> No.5245738

>>5245695
Terminus didn't whore it out a whole lot during development.

>> No.5245742

>>5245737 Dakka is a pretty good start for increased weapon speed / gameplay.

If the present version isn't vanila-y enough there's always something like 0.06 too.

Also there's Project MSFix'd.

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>>5245572
https://twitter.com/DickWhitehouse/status/1077227171482021889

>> No.5245746

>>5245745
Reading those replies gave me brain damage.

>> No.5245749
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>>5245745
That guy looks exactly like young Richard Hammond

>> No.5245761

>>5245649
>Authors MAY NOT USE THE 3D MODEL contents of this file as a base for modification or reuse, WITH NO EXEPTION! Authors may use the contents of this file other than the 3D models as a base for modification or reuse. You may distribute this file, provided you include this text file, with no modifications, seriously.

Fuck off and take your shitty mod with you.

>> No.5245767

>>5245761
Why he doesn't allow to reuse 3D models? Does he own Doom 3 and Quake 3 content?

>> No.5245769

>>5245761
Aren't they all ripped from id games?

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>>5245761

>> No.5245779

>>5245769
He still made a huge effort to port these models. So wanna have models in your project - port by yourself.

>> No.5245781
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Where are the *GAN-upscaled level textures at? I want the Quake-series too!

>> No.5245793

>>5245779
He illegally ported them. id or Bethesda didn't give him any permission to use their content. So a copyright notice for this mod is non-existent since it is illegal mod.

>> No.5245794

Can someone who uses prboom+ help me out? I want to run it with openGL with a vanilla-looking automap, but the automap lines are somehow not visible and I can only see the shitty textured automap. Meaning if I disable textured display, the automap is completely blank. I'm running prboom+ v2.5.1.5 on Linux. Software rendering is fine. I'm wondering whether this bug is old or new, or whether only the Linux version is affected.

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>>5245649
>PBR in Doom

>> No.5245798

>>5245793
I guess it's suddenly an issue since a mod you don't like is doing it? Even though countless mods have mined commercial resources for decades? Fuck off concern troll, and go give your inbred parents the gift of Christmas suicide while you're at it.

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>> No.5245816

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zK0IGZClprE

>> No.5245817
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Let's settle it. What is the best graphic configuration for modern wads on GZDoom?

>> No.5245818

>>5245798
Zanieon, fuck off your mod is shit. And change copyright notice, you don't own Q3 and D3 content.

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>>5245818
>YOU DISAGREED WITH ME SO THEREFORE YOU'RE THE AUTHOR OF THE MOD IN QUESTION

>> No.5245827

>>5245769
>>5245779
afaik they are retextured/remodelled/reanimated to some degree

>>5245793
> bethesda
> doom 3
> quake 3
good job

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>>5245827
Just report. I only just now realised (((who))) it is.

>> No.5245834

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=14XkwV_YhX0

>> No.5245836

>>5245834
Not enough YHVH.

>> No.5245838

>>5245836
he isn't in strange journey.

>> No.5245858 [DELETED] 
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>Renember Doom 2016? That game was fucking EPIC

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>This is the 19th IP in the thread.
>ach nein, i've been found out!
>time to svitch on ze vpn and post /v/eger-memen!

>> No.5245867

Yeah, DOOM was nice.
Way better than Doom 3 than you retards are loving just because it's old.

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>>5245867
>Yeah, DOOM was nice.
No

>> No.5245879

>>5245875
no one has ever read all that and no one cares that you cant think for yourself

>> No.5245881

>>5245879
>Literally too retarded to read
The absolute state of nudoomcucks

>> No.5245884

>>5245875
TL;DR.
If I wanted some shitty opinion coming from a self-absorbed prick unable to accept the fact he's objectively wrong, I'd visit tumblr.

>> No.5245886

>>5245875
>Doom 4 wasn't good
Opinion discarded.

>> No.5245887 [DELETED] 

>>5245881
no one cares cripplecuck, doom 3 will always be shit.

>> No.5245891 [DELETED] 

>doom 3
>slow as fuck game with a gravity gun because Half Life 2 did the same
>somehow "good"
>DOOM
>you jump, run, shoot almost constantly
>somehow bad because some faggot doesn't like how doomguy is pretty much just a vampire

>> No.5245892

>>5245884
>>5245886
Except nudoom is objectively and factually a terrible game, it's the TLJ of the Doom franchise

>> No.5245893

>>5245887
>>5245891
who are you arguing with about doom 3?

>> No.5245894

>>5245892
no that's doom 3

>> No.5245896

>>5245894
Doom 3 is bad too.

>> No.5245897 [DELETED] 

>>5245887
>>5245891
Where the fuck did I say Doom 3 was good you massive strawmanning faggot? I was replying to your retarded statement that nudoom was anything other than pure garbage.
Also, "cripplecuck"
lmao, 8ch is a hundred times better than this shithole, faggot.

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Merry Christmas guys, have a devlog of crap I've been working on.

https://youtu.be/UX4MgEjsTvQ

>> No.5245901 [DELETED] 

>>5245897
>lmao, 8ch is a hundred times better than this shithole, faggot.
yet you come crawling back, how's the kike mark? Still arbitrarily banning what he doesn't like and selectively enforcing rules? cripplecuck go back.

>>5245896
It's a lot worse.

>> No.5245902

>>5245892
No, that's Doom 3. DOOM is objectively good. You're just mad it wasn't a HD version of Doom 2 because you're a very sad man with a shitty computer who couldn't afford to play DOOM.

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>>5245572
Figured I'd stop lurking and actually post a map I've made for a change. It's basically a small storage facility in hell (how original). The map is in vanilla format, and is difficulty balanced too.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/2lvbtg8fx9xit6e/Exotic_Exports.zip?dl=0

>> No.5245904

>>5245902
I'm glad it wasn't literally more of the same Doom we've had for decades. If you want more of the same there's thousands of wads and megawads to spend your time with. It was nice to see a dev do something new even if they didn't always stick the landing.

>> No.5245906

some people like D4
you cant change that

some people will dislike things that are liked by other people
you cant change that either

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>>5245902
>objectively
>for something 100% subjective

>> No.5245909

>>5245898
I have no fucking idea where you're going with this mod. Last time I tried it, it was already a confused mess with several modes for every weapon, and now it seems even worse.

>> No.5245910

>>5245904
Exactly. This is why I don't understand why people are mad that DOOM dare make you jump and add glory kills.
It literally boils down to "I don't like it therefore it's shit and everyone who like it is a redditor".

>> No.5245912

>>5245907

>>5245892

>> No.5245913

>>5245903
Looks kinda plain, try to use less square brushes and play with different shapes more.

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>>5245909
It's pretty simple, anon. You pick a character, and you start shooting or swording things.
But I know you're not posting in good faith right now, are you? On Christmas of all days.

>> No.5245915 [DELETED] 

>>5245912
>>5245897
Every one of you /gg/aturd fucks will hang and I will see to that personally.

>> No.5245916

>>5245912
That post is also guilty, what about it?

>> No.5245917 [DELETED] 

>>5245914
Why are you so defensive?

>> No.5245918 [DELETED] 

>>5245914
DKG and the /v/igger ryssät are hoping that the mods aren't around today.

>> No.5245919 [DELETED] 

>>5245917
>make (((misinformed))) post
>hurr, why does yuh be so defensive, hurr

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>>5245916
just making sure justice is served equally

>> No.5245923 [DELETED] 

>>5245919
Why are you so mad? I just said the mod was confusing, and you're acting like a eight-years old fanboy being told that Star Wars is shit.

>> No.5245925

>>5245904
I don't get this post. There's wads that are very different from the vanilla experience, and not just gameplay mods. Doom 4 is a lot more straightforward than a lot of wads.

>> No.5245926 [DELETED] 

>>5245923
why do you keep blowing other peoples responses out of proportion

>> No.5245927 [DELETED] 

>>5245926
That's my line. Why greentexting and strawmanning?
And Star Wars IS shit, thank you Disney for ruining it 5ever.

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>>5245915

>> No.5245929

>>5245898
Those look pretty neat.

>> No.5245930

>>5245925
Doom 4 also reminds me a lot of Painkiller.

>> No.5245932

Is Brutal Doom the most popular Doom mod of all time?

>> No.5245935

>>5245932
No. The most popular is Ghoul's Forest 3. it brought a whole new audience.

>> No.5245936

>>5245932
megaman 8-bit deathmatch is

>> No.5245939

>>5245935
>The most popular is Ghoul's Forest 3
you can't be serious.
>it brought a whole new audience.
And BD didn't?
>>5245936
Maybe on Doomseeker's population of 100-ish people on average, but I'd say the average gamer dude will more likely know BD than MM8BDM. BD is the one that ecelebs like SBFP and AVGN played after all, and unlike GF3 it's still popular today and still getting updated by markymark.

>> No.5245940

>>5245932
It probably is, which might account for some of the general community's issues with it.

>> No.5245941

>>5245939
>but I'd say the average gamer dude will more likely know BD than MM8BDM.
it ended up being vice-versa, last i checked at my college campus

>> No.5245942

> bd

when will you learn

>> No.5245943

>>5245939
Brutal Doom's audience was mostly already playing Doom, except for the underage minority discovering it. Ghoul's Forest 3 brought new fans to the franchise, and ushered a new age of shitty edit of that map with all kind of bad memes wad creation in a tone that wasn't just "shoot things".

>> No.5245949

>>5245943
>Brutal Doom's audience was mostly already playing Doom
Can't be. BD is known for bringing a massive audience and also the endless requests of making something "BD-compatible" which didn't exist before. How exactly did it not bring new fans to the franchise, far more so than GF3 which has had far, far fewer cases of its fanbase being relevant? Where is their presence exactly? I don't see anything ghoul related anywhere, unlike BD which is so prominent that certain communities have straight up banned it.

I'm not saying GF3 isn't known but I wouldn't call it anywhere near as popular, especially TODAY. Bonus for, again, BD still being updated.

>> No.5245951

>>5245942
you people are getting bothered over acronyms now?

>> No.5245952

>>5245949
I don't browse on Doom community, more on Youtube, so I don't know about these, but I can tell you that I saw more Ghoul Forest videos than Brutal Doom.
Penis Cupcakes, Weegee, even fucking ponies had their GF3 wad.

>> No.5245964

>>5245951
way to miss the point entirely

>> No.5245965 [DELETED] 

>>5245901
>Still arbitrarily banning what he doesn't like and selectively enforcing rules?
Except that's literally what jannies and mods are doing right now, 4cuck

>> No.5245968

Why can't we all get along in our hatred of undead and demons?

>> No.5245972

>>5245965
have you considered leaving if this site bothers you so much

>> No.5245973

>>5245968
who the hell talks like this? have you been watching too many movies with cheesy dialogue?

>> No.5245978

hey jackfu2 how are you doing

>> No.5245979

>>5245973
I for one disagree with your definition of "cheesy". Lord of the Rings is a pretty fine movie and thus deserves to be watched. And watched. And spectated.
Somehow I am not surprised that a churl like you misses its unique beauty, and its appeal, as it truly opens a door to a fantasy world.


TL;DR : ur a fagot

>> No.5245984

>>5245925
and most of those wads have vanilla gameplay in mind. it's not hard.

>> No.5245986

>>5245914
He’s right, it‘s a mess

>> No.5245987

https://pastebin.com/rLDVuhD1
>>5237084
I tried making a "MetaDoom: shit explained" text.

>> No.5245990 [DELETED] 

>>5245986
Don't bother with him, he reports every post that doesn't compliment him.

>>5245987
Double you teh eff is MetaDoom?

>> No.5246006

https://twitter.com/Xous54/status/1077303452433350667

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>>5246006
Would Doomguy like Reisen?

>> No.5246013

>>5246010
He'd kill that alien spawn and her mind-warping eye beams.

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>>5246013
What about that cute bunny, then?

>> No.5246045 [DELETED] 

>>5245990
what a story mark

>> No.5246046

>>5245894
>>5245896
I actually enjoyed Doom 3...

It felt like what thry did for the 2 of Quake where they just reused the IP on something elsr. It was never a Doom-game to me, more like an approximation that tried some stuff out, and for that I liked it.

>> No.5246047 [DELETED] 

>>5246045
You're pathetic.

>> No.5246057 [DELETED] 

>>5246047

see: >>5246045

>> No.5246060 [DELETED] 

At least now I know to stay away from the GMOTA wad, now that the maker was revealed to be an insecure, abusive twat.

>> No.5246063

>>5246060
have you considered writing a novel with all this fiction you keep spinning

>> No.5246067

>>5246063
Dont enable.

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In other news, the Samsara enemy mod is still not out but the author said he'd only ask for help if he's on a situation where he can't think of anything.
So i guess all that is missing is some secret enemies.

>> No.5246081

>>5246046
>I actually enjoyed Doom 3...
But surely you would agree it was way too different compared to the other games to be called Doom, right?

>> No.5246104

>>5246081
>random Marine transferred to Mars to help with security
>Hell breaks loose, next to no survivors aside from command and a single squad of fellow Marines
>fights his way singlehandedly (with some occasional bottie help) through the facility and makes his way into Hell a couple of times
>kills the big bad and goes home on a ship
Not that anon, but a little different, but stupidly different.

>> No.5246110

>>5246104
... Have we played the same game? Doom 2 had little horror elements, whereas Doom 3 was full of scares and disturbing moments.

>> No.5246114

>>5246110
So? That's still the base storyline underneath the glitter.

>> No.5246115

>>5246114
Well, let's just say that if Outlast 3 had you shooting people in the face while bunnyhopping with metal playing in the background, it would be the same storyline, but people would hate it.
Do you see my point? I can't explain myself properly, so I hope you do.

>> No.5246118

>>5246081
Can you read beyond the first sentence of a post?

>> No.5246123
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Just got gzdoom + doom1.wad + brutaldoom. played through the first 8 levels.

THIS IS FUCKING AWESOME

>> No.5246128

>>5246123
why do I keep seeing posts like this.

>> No.5246129

>>5246128
Either somebody's genuinely having fun with BD, which is fine, or they're taking advantage of how a great chunk of the community lose their shit at the very mention of it.

>> No.5246131

>>5246128
because people try the game and like it probably

im not a CIA agent trying to mind control you or anything

>> No.5246158

>>5246115
That's a little extreme of a comparison since the first two Outlast games focused on the slow and spooky.

Doom was always about the action. Doom 3 was a brand new painting using the older ones as a reference while adding in a couple of new things that were popular at the time (Half-Life 2 puzzles/move this crane) while still having the familiar action that people grew up with.

I would even go as far as to say that Doom 2016 is an upgraded Doom 3 since it pretty much did the same thing, but cleaned it up a bit, gave it more dorection and brought more that familiar Doom 1/2/64 style more into the limelight.

That said, my first Doom game was 3, before playing 1 and 2 a few years later, so my own views will likely be very different from yours aside that I also love the older games to death.

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>>5246158
>I would even go as far as to say that Doom 2016 is an upgraded Doom 3
Niggah I also played Doom 3 before playing the older ones and I still hated it for its confusing direction.

>> No.5246176

>>5246161
I feel like you read "upgraded Doom 3", went straight to the "first Doom game was 3" and brought up that you didn't like 3 because of it's confusing direction without reading about how Doom 2016 took the lessons learned from 3 and built up from them, while still being familiar to the old formula of "kill, kill, kill"

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>>5246176

>> No.5246182 [DELETED] 

> doom 4 bad
> brutal doom good
> other modders bad
i want marky and his toddler goons to leave

>> No.5246187

>>5246182
Doom 4 is just brutal doom, but actually balanced and fun, with executions not taking five years.

>> No.5246198

https://twitter.com/doomwiki/status/1077482280782888960
https://twitter.com/doom_txt/status/1077585681231142913
couldn't decide which one to post

>> No.5246223

>>5246187
I think the Eternal [spoilers]jew[/spoilers] Doom is looking decent so far, and I admit I enjoyed D44M, and Doom 3. In fact I have liked every main-series Doom-game with the exception of Doom 64, because young kid me felt that sprites were just dumb when Quake and Goldeneye had 3D polygonal enemies.

>> No.5246227

>>5246223
Never played Doom 64, but I hated Doom 3 because it made no sense at all.
>other marine get killed by an imp
>cutscene ends
>you kill it in one shot

Not to mention I hate cutscenes and Doom 3 is full of them. I grew up with Half Life and Unreal, so I'm not used to my character just standing around like a retard while his friend get killed.

>> No.5246258

>>5245914
I disagree with him, but come on, not every piece of criticism is "in bad faith".

>> No.5246259

>>5246223
>Eternal Doom
It's an alright megawad but it's a bit dated.

>> No.5246262

>>5246258
It is for that guy.

>> No.5246263 [DELETED] 

brutal doom is unironically better than the vanilla game, only nostalgic redditors disagree

>> No.5246270

Has anyone ever tried to make a highly simplistic map designer where you put in a transparent PNG file and every non-transparent pixel equates to a wall?
Could be pretty fun to fuck around with.

>> No.5246272

>>5246263
yea what fcking retards wants to waste more than 7 rockets on a cyberdemon and not block that one plutonia map1 with iron bars that still let enemy bullets get through?

>> No.5246275

>>5246272
why did you reply.

>> No.5246286

>>5246263
But it's shit, even worse than that 3D UltraHires vasyan777 abomination mod.

>> No.5246295

>>5246286
>But it's shit
If you're retarded, yes. I bet you like the disaster that was D44M

>> No.5246307

>>5246295
DOOM2016 was good, it was made by respected professionals in id Software. BrUtoL CrAp was made by vasyans.

>> No.5246313

>>5245761
Lol. Why even say anything that asinine. If someone wants to use them they will. Preemptive spurging out about your footfag waifu model edits is just sad..

>> No.5246321

>>5246313
Inb4 he packages spyware with his future stuff to protect "his" assets like that one sonic fangame did.

>> No.5246323

>>5246313
>If someone wants to use them they will.

Yes but they will get ban from reputable boards like ZDoom forums. They only will be able to publish their project in file trashcans like moddb.

>> No.5246325

>>5246321
Hahaha yes I remember that. That was insane.

>> No.5246332

>>5246307
>it was made by respected professionals in id Software
It was made by people who know jack shit about the original doom, just look at that clip of that developer claiming the archvile was "from the original Doom" just for one example.

>> No.5246343 [DELETED] 

its true when they say that the reseterafags from Zdoom Forums and /v/ are swarming /vr/

i think its time to terminus or kinsie to become janitors and clean this place

>> No.5246346 [DELETED] 

>>5246343
Could you jam in any more boogeymen into one post?

>> No.5246352

https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/103649-the-merry-christmassy-doom-project-a-limit-removing-project-from-doomer-boards/
Now this will be a nice wad to play for Christmas. All of the Doomer Boards wads have been high quality.

>> No.5246354

>>5246332
That could be easily chalked up to being lax in conversation.

>> No.5246356 [DELETED] 

>>5246346
>"i hate everything that is DOS DOOM, am i cool now guys"
fuck back to your containment board

>> No.5246358 [DELETED] 

>>5246356
Not only do you use boogeymen like a child but you're also using strawman and are a hypocrite too since you're the one trying to fit in by using said boogeymen.

>> No.5246360
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Is there a PWAD version of TheCraftyTitan's Doomhack?

>> No.5246361

>>5246343
I miss back when this place was more chill.
>>5246354
>>5246332
it's the flip side to people being pissed that Romero's Sigil isn't using Doom 2.

>> No.5246365

>>5246361
also /v/ swarming /vr/ of late with one asshole posting CRT stuff there and pointing this board

>> No.5246376 [DELETED] 

>>5246343
Terminus is probably the most laid back, moderate dude out of the big name developers these days.

Kinsie seems to worry his ass off and sometimes act out on that, still doesn't deserve the hate he gets from the ZDoom crowd for giving too much of a fuck about stuff.

>> No.5246381

Is Doom 4 really that divisive?

>> No.5246382

>>5246381
No, people love it. There's just that one faggot who's mad about it.

>> No.5246386

>>5246381
I don't doubt people have mixed opinions about it here, but you can safely bet 100% it's just one or two idiots trying to bait, and another pair of idiots taking it every single time.

>> No.5246394

>>5246381
the game its fine, the problem is that once and another /v/tards comes to shit on this place and the game itself, mainly now with the romero stuff.
Just report them on sight

>> No.5246403

>>5246381
It has flaws, here and there, but it's still a good game
At least to me

>> No.5246415

>>5246381
It was shit. I expected Call of Doom with good story, direction and cutscenes, but got low budget generic polish shooter.

>> No.5246418

Its Possible to Optimize Quake 2 meshes?
The late Paul Steed left instructions for it but no one ever did it

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>>5245761
>>5245767
>>5245769
>>5245779
>>5245793
>>5245798
>>5245818
>>5245827

Wow what the fuck are wrong with you guys? I simply forgot to update the copyright notice, just that, all what i do in every version with that readme txt is update the header block and done, been doing that for years and i forgot that i left the Copyright/Permissions block that way.

I wrote that in that way because around 2015 there were "modders" (as in the Grezzo 2 tier guy) that were doing their own shit by picking the models from HM.

And yes, yes i do know i don't own most things which composes Hunter's Moon, but i also do motivate people in putting some effort in learning themselves how to mod for Doom, and not by simply picking from existent ones, that is also one of the issues which unfortunately happens to Realm667 repos, newbie modders just goes around copy-pasting stuff from there even though it is advised to not use them simply as they are.

>> No.5246450

>>5246435
Don't mind these retards.

>> No.5246451

i like how metadoom and samsara include obscure material and aren't afraid of doing it
they feel like the antithesis of when someone makes a doom video and it only mentions 4 games in the series and basic trivia everyone knows
like, who even owns doom anymore, is it id or modders?
this sounds like a joke post but part of me still believes it

>> No.5246456

>>5246435
>Wow what the fuck are wrong with you guys?
Welcome to /doom/.

>> No.5246461

>>5246450
I know i shouldn't bother too much, but they do have an argument in there, and seeing the way i wrote that copyright notice from 3 years ago, it really sounds some butthurt kid that had the toys stolen.

>> No.5246469 [DELETED] 

>>5246461
>>5246435
ignore thse shitweeds, they are crossboarders from /v/ said /v/ is now resetera 2.0

>> No.5246471

>>5246461
People will use every excuse to cimplain. Just add a small explanation, but don't get too annoyed.

>> No.5246473

>Just remembered the time when Randy said the DN3D expansions wouldn't have been on World Tour edition because they weren't 20 years old then
>They're are now probably 21

>> No.5246482 [DELETED] 

>>5246469
You can't just label everyone you don't like to be from the place you don't like.

>> No.5246486

>>5246473
If you mean the Wizardworks expansions, it's because he doesn't have the rights to them, and neither did Devolver (Scott Miller just absentmindedly told them they could use them), which is why they risked getting into trouble over Megaton Edition

>> No.5246491 [DELETED] 

>>5246482
He can and he does.

>> No.5246493

>>5246461
That notice is actually correct. Since you ported these models, wrote all code and retextured them, so nobody should be stealing them. They should just port the models again by themselves. The guy that was mad at you is probably vasyan777 - a russian autistic guy with poor grammar who sometimes shitposts here. He steals from everywhere for his super-c00l HD hires 3d MoDeL GrApHiCaL OvErHaUl for CLASSIC DOOM. Just ignore him.

>> No.5246497 [DELETED] 

>>5246482
I can because i know from where you come from
>>5246493
also THIS

>> No.5246503 [DELETED] 

>>5246497
>I can because i know from where you come from
You know you're acting just as bad and hostile as /v/? Replace the "/v/" part of your post with "reddit" and you got a /v/ post. You don't even have to change the resetera part because that's a /v/ boogeyman too.

>> No.5246517
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>>5246081
Not really.

>>5246110
>Doom 3 was full of scares and disturbing moments.
Pff, barely. Some jumpscares, yeah, but the game abuses those hard and you really grow to expect them and grow resistant to them, especially when you're armed to the teeth. Bonus point for using the chainsaw, where you could just buzz around with it in the dark and destroy any sneaky mook trying to pounce on you, and they don't even matter.
Hell, once you realize how powerful the saw is, you can near fearlessly take on almost every monster in the game with it, even some of the high tier ones, you feel like a god.

For disturbing things, maybe I'm jaded, but there's not that much I can think of.

>>5246381
On /doom/? Generally not. Most people who don't like it mostly complain that the level design wasn't that strong and focused too much on locked in arena combat (a fair criticism).
Generally lots of people around here like it to some degree. I thought it was fine, hoping to see Doom 5 improve on its formula and remedy its flaws.

>> No.5246520

>>5246046
I liked Doom 3's Archviles more than 2's.

>> No.5246523 [DELETED] 

>>5246517
DOOM 3 is a Good Resident evil game RE7 game

>> No.5246526

>>5246520
They were far less irritating, I'll give you that, but that's not hard to do.

>> No.5246529

>>5246517
DOOM 3 is a Good Resident Evil game, a good Pre-RE7 of sorts.
but a Medium DOOM game of sorts

>> No.5246530

>>5246493
>>5246497
I completely agree on this part too, since it was me who had the effort in having to convert/custom animate all the content into something readable for GZDoom, which is only a little less complicated than doing an original model.

But still the actual notice is also only telling about the models department as if i didn't care about the rest, whereas i do nowdays.

Prodoomer got the Spider Mastermind from Hunter's Moon and didn't credited me for such thing, even though that is one of the few original assets i made for the mod yes i made that sounds for Asmodeus/Mastermind in HM as many other sounds too

>> No.5246534

>>5246530(me)

Ops i mean:
>Prodoomer got the Spider Mastermind sounds from Hunter's Moon

Typos, dammit!

>> No.5246540

>>5246523
>DOOM 3 is a Good Resident evil game RE7 game
What?

>> No.5246545

>>5246503
Generally, I'd agree with you, but looking at these posts it's a pretty good chance the guy throwing an absolute fit is some outsider looking to air grievances/stir up shit/both.
That, or he's just one our regular rogue's gallery of fucking losers who will seriously spend Christmas doing shit like this, and who deserves nothing but coal.

>>5246520
I don't, they're WAY too easy and barely threatening at all, they should be much more dangerous.

What makes the original Arch-Vile so great is that he's so dangerous and bothersome that he'll immediately set of alarms in your head as you notice him, he's basically a boss encounter.
In Doom 3, he's just kind of a little bit inconvenient, my gut reaction shouldn't be "Alright, I'll deal with him in a moment, hold on.", it should be "OH GOD! This needs to be handled immediately!"

>> No.5246547

>>5246540
I don't know what he means by that, Doom 3 is weak as fuck as a horror game, working better as a plain shooter (Flashlight mod helps it be a better shooter).

>> No.5246558

>>5246540
>>5246547
corrected >>5246529
DOOM 3 feels like a resident evil game of Sorts, mainly REmake once you get into the laboratory.

>> No.5246573

>>5246547
This is my problem with Doom 3, it didn't know if it wanted to be a horror game or an action-packed shooter and it failed at being a good example of either. There's some jumpscares, but you never really feel in danger because there's more than enough ammo (and a frankly ridiculous amount of armor). The combat is the main focus, but it's not actually satisfying or fun because of horror elements like the view recoil from damage.

>> No.5246575

>>5246573
That, and it's SLOW. Doom and Doom 2 were both super fast, compared to them, Doom 3 is slow.

>> No.5246605

anyone else playing h2h-xmas today?

>> No.5246618

>>5245687
Objective rankings:

1. No rest for the living

2. Plutonia experiment

3. Knee deep in the dead

>> No.5246642

>>5245761
>If you want create maps for Hunter's Moon or want adapt already existing Doom maps for personal use, load this into GZDoom Builder as a additional resource file, it contains the correct monster and weapon replacements to fix the issue with weapons differing from the ammo near them, also the tall monsters stucking on ceiling if the room's height isn't enough for them.
Good thing you're just a shitposting moron.

>> No.5246663

Playing Blood is a pain. The game is fun, but the controls...

>> No.5246665

>>5246605
hell ya mother fucker

best xmas mod (and only 1 of 2 i know of)

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>>5246663
Oh good, it's you again. Still having trouble running vanilla Blood in GZDoom?

>> No.5246668

>>5246663
bloodgdx

>> No.5246672

>>5246667
>Quake 4

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>>5246667
>paying for retro games
>lining the pockets of some random fatcats that likely had nothing to do with the game's original release

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Is the Quake pack worth it besides Quake 1 and 3?

>>5246663
Oh good, it's you again. Still having trouble running vanilla Blood in GZDoom?

>> No.5246678

>>5246667
why is this place so hostile.

>> No.5246683

>>5246668
Might have to. I can get used to anything, but moving the mouse up to move forward and not having a use for the right click...

>>5246667
>Quake 4
You fucking retard.

>> No.5246686

>>5246673
>pirating
You're so cool. How do I become such a cool guy like you?

>> No.5246689

>>5246686
The original developers won't see the money. What difference would it make?

>> No.5246694

>>5246689
Some of the original devs still work at Id, what the fuck are you talking about?

>> No.5246695

>>5246415
>I expected Call of Doom with good story, direction and cutscenes
?
>low budget
???

>>5246605
tried it, left it not 15 minutes in. I played eviternity to get my doom christmas fill instead. some ambushes are really poorly thought/laid out, and the ice physics get really fucking cumbersome too but overall it's a fun romp.

those caco liches can go fuck themselves though.

>> No.5246704

>>5246686
Lol. It's not about being "cool". You must be a real boomer if you think pirating is something edgy.

>> No.5246708

>>5246704
>strawmanning

>> No.5246713

>>5246663
Re-configure them on the config file

>> No.5246718

>>5246704
Dont copy that floppy!

>> No.5246719

>>5246704
I didn't say any of that. I said he was such a cool guy. Are you illiterate, anon? You should pirate some English 101 to help fix that problem of yours.

>> No.5246721

>>5246718
*ignores disk protectorr*
FUCK YO POSSE!

>> No.5246728

>>5246708
>>5246719
The implication of saying "you're so cool" sarcastically is that pirating is something edgy that someone would feel "cool" for doing.

>> No.5246736

>>5246674
The only real stinker I can think of in that pack is Quake IV.

>> No.5246739

>>5246728
>sarcastically
I was being 100% sincere. I look up to people who don't feel the need to pay for their time spent on games others worked on. How does that at all come off as sarcasm?

Take a nap, anon. You're reading too much into this.

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>>5246713
Couldn't find one, but I found a SETUP.EXE thing.
And when I tried to launch it, this happened.

I think I'll either only play with the keyboard, or get that mod someone made.

>> No.5246743

daisy daisy give me your answer do

>> No.5246746

>>5246016
at first glance, i saw tits

>> No.5246756

>>5246740
If you insist on playing DOS rather than BloodGDX, know that setup.exe runs in DOS as well. Also look up bmouse.exe.

>> No.5246758

>>5246756
I'll look for a guide later. Or ask someone to spoonfeed me.

>> No.5246764

>>5246435
i'd say we can't really advance if everyone who tries to make something new has to reinvent the wheel first. The reaction might have been a bit exaggerated, but there's no harm in having more resources for the community (just put the usual "don't claim you made this" thing

want to promote the creation of new assets? make tutorials!
videos, posts, images, the more the better

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>> No.5246785

>>5246768
Wait, is jingle a verb?

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>>5246785
Yes?

>> No.5246834

Why are people bitching about Doom 2016 so much? I loved it. It had a pretty different take on combat, but it's a reboot. Seems like Doom Eternal will be fixing that "problem" anyway

Plus,
>Objectively, ___ is better than ____
>Objectively, my opinion is better than yours

What the fuck are you talking about? Objectively is a word used to describe facts, not opinions. You guys are subjectively retarded.

>> No.5246837 [DELETED] 

>>5246834
>Why are people bitching about Doom 2016 so much?
Two words : nostalgia googles.

>> No.5246840

>>5246834
Ironically, Eternal looks good because it's moving away from old Doom and focusing more on making fun ways to kill enemies that don't involve shooting and pressing F.

>> No.5246842

>>5246840
But Doom 2 was all about shooting enemies. DOOM added new fun ways to shoot enemies with alternate fire, yet that one autist still bitches about it because "WAAAH ENEMIES ARE GLOWING MUH IMMERSION".

>> No.5246850

https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/3122-bin-laden-doom/

>> No.5246851

>>5246842
The alt fires were lame and fell into one of two categories: they either broke the game, or were overshadowed completely by the other option. Eternal looks to be focusing more on acrobatics and movement over making a bunch of RPG progression trees. Whether or not they are able to pull off making a game worth $60 has yet to be seen, but I have some optimism.

>> No.5246859

>>5246851
>The alt fires were lame
This is just your opinion here.
And your opinion pisses me off, and if it had a face, I'd punch her. Of course alt fires don't spout rainbows, it's still DOOM, not Ballistic. I'l already happy we get two alt fires for every weapon.

Sounds like you just got your hopes too high and expected something that magically condensed the best WADs.

>> No.5246865

>>5246859
Alt fires are unnecessary when you just make good guns that each serve a purpose to begin with.

>> No.5246870

>>5246865
They were unnecessary. But after Half-Life, they became mandatory, just like crosshairs.

>> No.5246872 [DELETED] 

>>5246837
Despite the fact that the people who praise nudoom hate on Brutal Doom because of said nostalgia goggles?

>> No.5246878

>>5246834
>but it's a reboot
It's a sequel to Doom 64.

>> No.5246880 [DELETED] 

>>5246872
I never hated Brutal Doom. Just its fanbase. And maybe its creator, because from what I heard, he got arrogant.

>> No.5246881

>>5246870
Mandatory how?

>> No.5246886

>>5246881
Simple. Name one FPS that came out recently, that doesn't have alternative fires.
And a real FPS, not a "realistic" Call of Warfare XVII : Electric Boogaloo.

>> No.5246889

>>5246865
What if DOOM Eternal gets upgrade stations where you can choose one of at least 10 possible upgrades for each weapon in the game?

>> No.5246892

>>5246889
If they're static pickups, then sure.

>> No.5246893

>>5246889
Not that guy but even I think that's overkill. Unless those are passive upgrades.

>> No.5246916

>>5246893
>passive upgrades
What now?

>> No.5246918

>>5246785
>I've got spurs that jingle jangle jingle

>> No.5246924

>>5246886
quake champions

>> No.5246925

>>5246889
I hope there'll be poison. I love doing nothing and just watching my enemies dying.

>> No.5246930

>>5246924
Isn't that one literally just Quake 3 with HD textures?

>> No.5246936

What if Eternal copies the tome of power?

>> No.5246941

Is there any Doom wad with spells rather than guns?

>> No.5246952

>>5246886
PUBG with First-Person mode set to on? Halo 5? Bioshock Infinite?

>> No.5246956

>>5246952
>PUBG
You disgust me beyond words.

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>>5245794
Seems to work for me, fresh svn build running on Linux in OpenGL mode. If you installed via package manager, it might have older code. Afaict 2.5.1.5 only exists as 2.5.1.5.test from May 2017, plenty of time for a dist to miss improvements.
Maybe try a clean config: prboom-plus -config fresh.cfg

software rendering looks better anyway

>> No.5246964

>>5246961
Can't unsee Doomguy's orange lips

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>>5246956
A LALOO! HAHAHAHEHEHEHEA!

>> No.5246982

>>5246673
I'll buy a port if it's a game I don't have and the port is good. Particularly if it's a game that just doesn't want to fucking run on a modern OS.
Like, I can install Simcity 3000 from an old disc, and it'll boot, but it'll run like shit and crash sporadically.
With the GOG release, I don't need a disc, it can be had with the expansion, and the game runs just fine, without any problems.
So the question is, is it a port that is worth my time, does it do me a service by making things easier, or is it just a waste of my time?

I still sometimes pirate, however, and I'm seldom interested in paying money for a copy of a game just bundled with DosBox.
In particular, Doom is not worth to purchase because they just bundle it with a Dosbox, and the wads are censored, so fuck that noise.

>> No.5246984

>>5246686
Faggot.

>>5246694
Who still works there besides Tim Willits? He can get back to me when he stops taking credit for things he didn't do.

>> No.5246985

>>5246982
>the wads are censored
What?

>> No.5246990

>>5246718
But I have to, one floppy could go bad if I sneezed in the same room as it, so I need to make huge amounts of backup copies to be on the safe side.

>> No.5246992

>>5246985
>no red crosses on medkits
>no Nazi iconography in the Wolf3D levels
>no SS Troopers in the Wolf3D levels

>> No.5246995
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>>5246992
>no red crosses on medkits

>> No.5246997

>>5246992
The GOG wads are the uncensored originals.
only the BFG edition wads are censored.

>> No.5246998

>>5246995
The Red Cross is real anal about people using that imagery.

>> No.5247003

>>5246998
Haa, okay. I prefer that explanation over the one I was guessing.

>> No.5247006

>>5246758
Just download Bmouse.exe and run it with Blood, it vastly improves mouse aiming.
You can also use Bmouse with other Build games.

>> No.5247008

>>5246984
kevin cloud

>> No.5247012

>>5246995
The Canadian Red Cross got a wild hair up their ass about free advertising and helping ingrain into youth's heads "red cross on white boxes = good", so they've been flexing on publishers about that for a while, hence the way medkits look in games these days are different.

Basically if a very large organization with good PR say they are good people who are doing good things for you, they're probably lying. See also: UN, EU, etc

>> No.5247015

>>5247012
Compared to the theory I was having that it was for religious reason, it still makes sense.

>> No.5247016

>>5246998
Most of the time, yeah. There's the possibility of Id and Obsidian paying some cash to the Red Cross to hush about it.

>> No.5247017

might be relevant
https://doomwiki.org/wiki/Doom_3:_BFG_Edition#Differences_with_Doom_and_Doom_2

>> No.5247018

>>5247008
Oh right, Doomguy's arms (and more). I guess he's lucky I bought BFG Edition for Doom 3.

>> No.5247020 [DELETED] 

>>5247012
EU yes, but UN? How so for the latter? Car for some examples besides the lack of intervention of the 1994 Rwandan Genocide and the silence about the Soviets successful crushing of the 1956 Hungarian revolt?

>> No.5247025

>>5246930
dude...

>> No.5247027

>>5247020
*Care

>> No.5247028 [DELETED] 

>>5247020
Mainly because they just exist to perpetuate themselves, promote globalism in democratic countries, and their 'peacekeeping troops' don't actually defend anyone from any kind of insurgency/war, instead polluting previously clean water sources, spread horrible disease which was previously long wiped out, as well as raping and pimping out local children among another.

They're preciously little useful for anyone in the first world, and outright a pestilence elsewhere. They say they promote peace, but they in no way actually do.

That isn't very much a subject for this thread, however.

>> No.5247049

i hope eternal brings back the unmaker
wouldn't mind getting the soul cube too

>> No.5247072

>>5245987
>Sometimes, dog zombies may have a higher chance to spawn next to former humans

>> No.5247096
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5247096

better dehacked rain test. done now
https://www.mediafire.com/file/94t94j873am9daf/rain.zip/file

>> No.5247098

>suffer bouts of short term memory loss
>everything just goes blank during the last leg of Tombstone on Plutonia
Christ on a crutch this is awful

>> No.5247115

>>5246674
Yes the Quake 1 expansions are incredible. Quake 2 is good imo but the Q2 expansions are really not very good.

>> No.5247117

>>5246381
Its almost unanimously loved but /v/ stank everything up and it rubbed of on /vr/ too.

>> No.5247132

So like a month ago this thread got pretty slow and quiet, now for the past week or two it's been full of shitposting, fighting, and quickly reaching bump limit. What happened?

>> No.5247139

>>5247132
Doom turned 25 just over 2 weeks ago, got some attention. That's my theory anyway.

>> No.5247167

>>5247132
annual xmas shit flinging

>> No.5247195
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>>5245903
thank you this was a very nice exploration level with incidental combat. liked seeing how it all eventually fit together. the start looked like you had begun to make a door cut into the rock but there was nothing there except an indentation into the wall. also some of the doors have key indicators but aren't locked. here is a demo http://s000.tinyupload.com/?file_id=68666776323676751451

>> No.5247198

>>5245572
>>5246352

>> No.5247230

>>5246674
>no quake wars
>no wolf 2009
for what purpose

>> No.5247234

>>5247098
Are you ok, man?

>> No.5247236

>>5247230
I didn't hate Wolf09, but it's also far from excellent, I can see someone ignoring it.

>> No.5247237

>>5247230
Those are both in IP limbo. And not popular enough to work out the legality

>> No.5247247

>>5247234
Yeah, I'm used to forgetting stuff on the fly, but it really throws me for a loop when I get really invested in a game and everything just gets dumped.

>> No.5247250

>>5247247
>but it really throws me for a loop when I get really invested in a game and everything just gets dumped
Nigga please.
At least you didn't get hyped for Yandere Simulator.

>> No.5247256

>>5247250
What?

>> No.5247264

>>5247256
Don't ask. It's painful memory. Let's focus on Doom.

>> No.5247265

>>5247230
you can't even buy wolf09 on steam, bethesda is pretending it doesn't exist

>> No.5247270

>>5247230
Ain't like its my choice. Publishers just don't want my money I guess.

>> No.5247271 [DELETED] 

So I just got Doom from steam for just 4 bucks. But the game looks ugly so I still feel ripped off. I thought it will be something like Quake or Half Life, but the graphics is just too bad. I could’ve spend 4 bucks in Mcdobalds for a nice bigmac. So since I already spend 4 bucks maybe there are any graphics overhaul packs? Like Hires and 3d pack. I can’t stand these lowres squares, so can you recommend me the best HD pack?

>> No.5247278

>>5247271
Lol

>> No.5247295

>>5247271
Install Gzdoom source port and neural upscale pack.

>> No.5247313

>>5245571
>>5245572
I think this may be of general interest so, heres a HDpack for RTW using the AI upscaling shenanigans from /v/ and /vr/ thread
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uyRfptKJutU

Sadly the guy who recorded this recorded with a potato, so if anyone has RTCW installed please post it here.

>> No.5247323

>>5247313
is there half life pack?

>> No.5247329

>>5247323
Unless SOMEONE does it, NOPE

also the Nvidia AI stuff is better, though its still on closed beta :\

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HUUH

>> No.5247332

does anyone have the picture of john carmack in a suit with the texture STARTAN1 photoshopped on the suit?

>> No.5247339

>>5247230
>no Quake Wars
Whaaat. Hearing a Strogg say "GRATITUDE" is the best thing ever and more people should hear it.

>> No.5247352

How do you increase / decrease the movement speed of the free-camera in Doombuilder?

I hit the wrong button and it's taking a god damned century to get to the other side of the room.

>> No.5247424

>>5247313
I've never played a Wolfenstein game. Is Return worth $1.25?

>> No.5247439
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5247439

This is my first attempt at making a full-blown map. About two hours in and I've only just finished the starting room.

Please tell me it gets less painful the further you go.

>> No.5247443

>>5247424
RTCW and New Order are probably the best two to play. The original is great and all, but you could honestly skip 3/4ths of the levels and it would be a better game for it.
(blake stone is better btw)

>> No.5247445

>>5247439
You should finish the overall design and map flow before detailing.
>>5247424
Oh, and yeah RTCW is easily worth $1.25

>> No.5247446

>>5247443
I remember there being one Wolfenstein game with magic elements that got praise. Is that this game? I'm not really interested in a typical WWII shooter.

>> No.5247448

>>5247446
Return to Castle Wolfenstein has all sorts of batshit stuff from mid-end. Starts out just being about Nazis, and spirals from there. Wolfenstein 2009 has some mystical elements from what I hear, but I actually haven't played that one.

>> No.5247450

>>5247446
I believe that's the game just called "Wolfenstein."
I don't know what the popular opinion on that is.

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>>5246961
Strange. I compiled 2.5.1.5.test myself from svn too. I just deleted my config and only changed video mode to OpenGL, and the problem is still there. I'll try and compile again and see if I was missing some optional dependencies. I'm using Fedora 29, dunno if it makes a difference.

Somehow software rendering doesn't run at 144 fps if I set it to 2560x1440, so I'd rather run crispy doom if I'm going the software route.

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5247478

>>5247313
Even if just neural upscaled, I'd be interested in getting a good look at this.

>>5247424
Absolutely, right next to the original Wolfenstein 3D, Return To Castle Wolfenstein is one of the core Wolfenstein experiences.

>>5247446
It's sort of a WW2 shooter, but you get to see occult magical stuff, super science, and mostly oldschool shooter action. You explore for items and secrets, you have to find food and medkits for health, and you can carry lots of weapons and ammo, including a flamethrower and a 7.92mm Gatling machinegun.

>>5247448
>>5247450
Wolf 09' has a strong focus on magic and occult stuff, but there's super science stuff just as well.
It's not a bad game IMO, but there's a lot to be desired. The lead dev of New Order said he thought Wolf 09' was a substandard game and thought Raven did a poor job.
I don't entirely agree on that, but I also see why someone wouldn't like it.

It has probably the weakest story of any of the Wolfenstein games I've played, by far (I haven't played New Colossus, mind), and probably the weakest characters.
This says a lot, because Wolf3D has very little narrative going beyond the basic explanation of each episode, and though RtCW has a pretty serviceable and engaging plot for what it is, the characters are mostly uninteresting.

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>>5247443
For the original Wolfenstein 3D, I'd say you could do the original three episodes, and skip the Nocturnal Missions, because they're just eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeegh....
If you liked the original three episodes, you could also check out Spear Of Destiny, which does a couple of new things.
Don't play the FormGen sequels to Spear Of Destiny though, they're so fucking shitty, oh my god.

I'd suggest maybe one or two levels a day or so, to avoid fatigue; it's got some fun to it, but it can get very formulaic.

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>>5245572
Happy Festivus, anon.
I'd like to share my mutator; it gives you one indestructable hit point while you are armored.

ArmorisHitPoints
https://my.mixtape.moe/lnuzbw.zip

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>>5246961
>>5247467
Fug, I was missing SDL2_image all along. It's working now. Thanks anyway, anon!

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5247523

>>5247507
Having fun with these maps:
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/103649-the-merry-christmassy-doom-project-a-limit-removing-project-from-doomer-boards/

along with this mod on top:
https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/themes/xmas/doomxmas

>> No.5247545

>>5245572
>[12-24] 100 Minutes of /vr/ now has a test version available
>http://www.mediafire.com/file/depjoz6gicgnb8x/100minvr_v_0_1.wad/file

>>5243335
>On Dehumanized (map 6),you can walk through these bars and hit the exit switch easily.

I played until Dehumanized, I knew that wasn't the version I delivered, it's this one:
https://mega.nz/#!3551XKCb!VJkfRJEK0qdXvwy__q76Cf0uHlRq0bI3NB02emsdc7E
you should not be attacked from above or attract every single enemy in the map

>> No.5247554

>>5245648
I doubt many people have this same problem but I figured out what was wrong. I had a doublebind on ctrl and I guess gzdoom doesn't like it when you have a regular bind and a doublebind on the same key anymore. Not sure what the point of that is. Anyway, I removed the doublebind and it works fine now.

>> No.5247606

>>5247115
>Quake 2 is good imo but the Q2 expansions are really not very good
I think the opposite is true, some of the expansions added trickier enemies or updated the AI of the existing ones (like Tanks leading their rockets) that added some welcomed spice to the somewhat boring original monsters. Fuck those turrets, though.

>> No.5247608

>>5247339
Quake Wars feels more properly Strogg than whatever that shit from Quake Champions is.

>> No.5247651

Playing Episode 4 of Ultimate Doom for the first time. Is it normal for it to feel like I'm getting my shit pushed in constantly? I rage quit for the first time on Mission 2 after just barely surviving the first one.

>> No.5247663

>>5247651
It's an extreme difficulty spike from Episode 3. Play Doom 2 first, that's the order the maps were made in.

>> No.5247671

>>5247663

I've been save scumming for the first time in all those episodes. I might skip ahead to 2 if I have more rage quits. The hidden Cyberdemon in the middle of Mission 2 felt dirty and cheap instead of a surprising challenge.

>> No.5247675

>>5247608
it's quite literally the model from the box art, just swap out some voice lines and voila.

>>5247446
I wouldn't call what wolf2009 got 'praise'.

>> No.5247696

>>5247545
That one you just posted has the same passable bars issue, but I replaced it and changed that.
The only edit I remember was the one that fixed a missing texture and an elevator. I might've missed it if there was another.

https://www.mediafire.com/file/rlk7cuqqaznral3/100minvr_v_0_3.wad/file

Lemme know if anything else is screwy.

>> No.5247707

>>5247446
That's the 2009 Wolfenstein game and that wasn't really praised, kinda okay at best. BJ obtains an amulet that allows him to use its powers from a parallel dimension and enter the 'veil'. On activating it there's a meter can be expended to use other abilities that can be gotten like a shield, slow-mo, or gun powerup that can be stacked for further drain, as well as being able to see creatures that can be shot for chain lightning but attack the player for overstepping it. Money can be expended on adding more effects like a wallhack or the shield reflecting bullets.

In the way of actual weapons it's probably one of the few games of its time to not actually impose a weapon limit, it's mostly collecting German weapons of the time but there's experimental science tech stuff like the Particle Cannon. Likewise they also get buyable upgrades but there isn't enough money to cover them all in a single playthrough.

Fine for a playthrough for fun but nothing special.

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Here comes this fucking guy spewing this fucking post,but Is there a reason that some people dislike brutal doom other then "It ruined doom 4"?I personally like It a lot, but I see a lot of people talking shit about it here and there over 4chan and some modder communities,but never got to know why.

>> No.5247717

>>5247424
Yeah
Look into iortcw and possibly Venom mod
It's honestly the best and only one worth playing outside of 3D and SoD

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>>5247696
damn, are only this two linedefs?
also, I don't know why I was attacked from every side

>> No.5247737

>>5247696
oh shit, is the 0.1 version the one that is posted in the news

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>>5247696
>>5247737
you know what?, ignore me, I had something loaded that ignored the block sounds, I don't know what, Universal Enhanced AI maybe?

>> No.5247745

>>5247737
>>5247742
Oh, it is though.
v0.3 is the newest one now, but it's probably not really any different from 0.2... Anyways.

>> No.5247749

>>5247313
looks like the upscaling brakes the tiling

>> No.5247764

>>5246435
So people can use them?

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>>5247707
My favorite part of the game was the Flamethrower (which was actually really powerful and realistic after upgrading), and the Mauser rifle.

Upgrading the Mauser for damage, accuracy, stripper clips, and the bayonet, and you had a weapon you could use basically for most infantry fighting.
Skip the scope and the silencer, just fire off rounds with loud booms and stab Germans with your bayonet. The most fun way to do this is to use the slowmo magic and then sprint in to slit the throats of dozens of German soldiers, then hearing them all gurgle blood in near unison as you exit slowmo.

It's not a great game, but it's got a few good points to it. I think if a mod team could take all of the assets and make their own campaign with it, and do some tweaking, you could make a pretty good game. I think some of the levels are kind of weak, and obviously the story and characters could be way less boring (or omitted entirely, for just pure gameplay).

>>5247717
>iortcw
>Venom mod
What are those?

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>> No.5247828

>>5247675
>it's quite literally the model from the box art, just swap out some voice lines and voila.
Oh, you know that's not what I'm talking about.

>> No.5247851

>>5245572
>[12-24] 100 Minutes of /vr/ now has a test version available
>http://www.mediafire.com/file/depjoz6gicgnb8x/100minvr_v_0_1.wad/file
Map01 (A Huge Gut Feeling) is missing the song I originally gave to it (The Discolored Wall from the Castlevania Bloodlines ost).

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>>5245913
I find it difficult to balance detailing with visual clarity. Doesn't help my detailing is somewhat poor at best. I've tried to amend that (see pic).
>>5247195
Cheers for the demo. I can't believe I forgot to re-tag that door.
>>5245903
I've updated the map with fixes. New link is here: https://www.dropbox.com/s/gxjtqnfywqcl4hj/Exotic%20Exports%201.1.zip?dl=0

>> No.5247893

>>5246842
Do people actually complain about that? I think there's a way to turn the flashing off.

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>>5247890
demos for v1.1
http://s000.tinyupload.com/?file_id=00040659983804964143

two demos in this. the first, i managed to get stuck (pictured). but that's what testing is for right? so i re-recorded from about 10 seconds before that.

not sure why line 631 has the 46 gun door type. its tag, 10, has no corresponding sector so i guess you must have removed the other half of the mechanism, whatever it was.

also i notice you have applied tags to most of your D1/DR manual doors and the sectors behind them. this isn't necessary, they always work on the backsector regardless. adding tags is wasted effort.

i like the secrets btw. it turns out that candle is actually a hint after all.

>> No.5247927

>>5247893
A few do, and yes, you can turn it off.
Hell, even the console versions have a lot of options you can tweak, I respect that a lot, because some games will not let you configure fucking anything at all.

>> No.5247929

>>5245867
>YOU ARE STRONG VIDYA CHARACTER WHO NEED NO PLOT RIP AND TEAR XDXD
>but seriously, here's the shitty plot
>no, this time it's Half-Life style cutscene that you can't skip
>Serious Sam arenas
Nuh-uh.

>> No.5247930

>>5245906
If those people want to let others know how great D44M was, they should stay at /v because it's not retro. Just like Doom 3.

>> No.5247931 [DELETED] 

>>5247929
We get it, you're alone on Christmas.

>> No.5247938 [DELETED] 

>>5247931
Alone, and starved for attention.

>> No.5247956 [DELETED] 

>>5247931
>>5247938
Christ was born on December 25 of Julian calendar (Jan 7th by the Gregorian) and everyone who says otherwise is a heretic. Enjoy going straight to hell (((protestant))). Or to /v, in that regard.

>> No.5247962 [DELETED] 

>>5247956
Christ was a creation of gods from multiple religions and 25 dec is just the signal of the growing daylight, and had been celebrated everywhere around the world.

>> No.5247983

The Playstation verion of Doom is so goddamn terrifying what the fuck. Why did they decide to make this a full-on horror game?

Shores of Hell was scary enough to make me constantly tense already in the PC version.

>> No.5247985

>>5247983
>doom
>scary

>> No.5247986

>>5247983
Don't be such a pussy.

>> No.5247987

>>5247985
Fuck no it really is. It's terrifying. And the PSX version is a straight up horror game. I don't know why they decided to replace the cool action soundtrack with a very creepy one and completely change the lighting on everything but it's actually scary.
Ep 1 is still not scary at all though.

>> No.5247989

>>5247983
Don't be such a baby.

>> No.5247991

>>5247987
I'm not playing in a nice well-lit living room on a big-screen monitor with the lights on and all. I'm playing on a tiny laptop at 4am in an empty house. Shit's scary.

>>5247986
>>5247985
>>5247989
Ok fuck off now all of you this was listed as an action horror game.

>> No.5247992

>>5247983
Don't be such a scaredy cat.

>> No.5247997

>>5247983
I never liked the PSX soundtrack very much, because it all sounds very similar and monotone, I much prefer the original soundtrack.

The new sound effects and the new lighting is pretty neat though.

>> No.5248000

>>5247467
>>5247510
Glad to hear it worked out!

>> No.5248024

>>5246618
You mean, normie ranking.

>> No.5248027

>>5247997
PSX soundtrack is much better, midi sounds too primitive and covers are too loud. I play with psx sountrack and crt filter which makes colours darker.

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muh power fantasy. I press X repeatedly and the game kills da demons. super badass

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>>5247926
Thanks for the demo. I've fixed being able to be stuck on that side of the altar now, and removed the unnecessary tags (even though it makes me paranoid, even post-testing).

The original plan for that untagged linedef in the blood room was to "desecrate" the altar by shooting it (Quake style), which would pitch the player into an ambush that would open an extra area to the side, which would lead up the area where the top of the pew is. Only problem is that extra area would intersect into the bookshelf area and I couldn't be fucked remaking it. Hell, it's probably for the better as I don't like making secrets so obscure they require alt-tabbing as part of the trigger.
>>5245903
Updated link here: https://www.dropbox.com/s/rtv23e9k4c9g462/Exotic%20Exports%201.2.zip?dl=0

>> No.5248036

>>5248030
Is this for all of Doom or just Eternal.

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>>5248027
>crt filter

>> No.5248054

>>5248036
Don't mind that crybaby.

>> No.5248070

>>5248024
These are the only episodes with coherent style and sensible progression. Plutonia should drop some levels like Hunted though.

I ecpect Sigil to join this group after februarym

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5248073

Man Blood is a really good game. Why does Dooky Nooky get all the attention? (Not that I have anything against the Duke).
And I regret not playing Blood years ago. I want to make a build engine game now.

>> No.5248078

>>5248030
So you know how people do pistol start or tyson runs in Doom? What's stopping you from just doing a no glory kill (aside from bosses) run?

>> No.5248080

>>5248070
I fucking hate Hunted, and yet it always seems to be the example people point to when talking about how cool Plutonia is. It's a fucking easy level that devolves into solving a maze on the map screen once you've killed the handful of enemies.

>> No.5248107

> omg shutup about D44M
> let me bring up D44M again
make up your fucking mind

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5248116

Ancient Aliens is fun.

Is there some cool universal hud mod you'd recommend?

>> No.5248120

>>5248116
Final Doomer Hud is what I use

>> No.5248123

>>5248073
Duke's catchphrases are just a lot more popular which helped. Blood doesn't have as much meme potential.

>> No.5248146
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i fucking forgot how bullshit these things are

>> No.5248147

>>5248146
Only if you're bad.

>> No.5248151
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>>5248073
>Why does Dooky Nooky get all the attention?
That's implying that any of the attention Duke gets is any good. Poor Duke has been the punching bag for every loathsome game journo who thinks they're hot-shit for parroting the "duke is outdated" meme because of the failure of Duke Nukem Forever.

>> No.5248154
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5248154

>>5246259
[neighs in aramaic]

>> No.5248157

>>5248147
My brother says their tracking capability is better if you have a stronger CPU, but I'm not sure if that's true.

>> No.5248159

>>5247606
Yes, the turrets really made it a rather tedious experience. I did enjoy the rest of it, though. I blasted through both mission packs in one weekend at my mother's house a few years back. Good thymes were had.

>> No.5248161

>>5248151
I feel like no DN game could ever capture the original's humor because references to pop-culture and movies have been done so often that it just seems lazy at this point

>> No.5248163
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>>5248151
Is he going to get lewd with a Japanese schoolgirl...?

>> No.5248170

>>5248161
One of the things that irked me about DNF is that he was talking down at all these other games, talking shit about some of the most popular game franchises out there, when the game itself was so far beneath a lot of those games that it was a joke. I don't remember as much shit talking in DN3D, it mostly seemed like harmless references but maybe I'm mis-remembering, it's been a while.

>> No.5248224

>>5248151
>>5248161
the thing about duke wasn't just le pop culture, it was because he was a dorky shitposter, a channer nerd, eating burgers and watching nerdy movies and anime and whatever
he just happened to be /fit/ as fuck

then gearbox came along and made him apparently omnipotent and almighty and it's like no no no no NO NO NO NO NO

>> No.5248227

>>5248224
are you having a stroke

>> No.5248230

>>5248227
yes, i'm stroking right now while reading your posts

>> No.5248306

>>5247828
nothing else in quake champions looks to emulate the strogg so no, no idea what you're talking about.

>> No.5248309

>>5247929
just because you take an issue with the game's presentation doesn't make it bad, friend. the arenas are a fair criticism, everything else was a deliberate design choice.

>>5248161
Duke really should've stayed in the 80's. the transition to a more modern environment only hurt his characterization.

>> No.5248318

>>5248151
I like Duke. He gave /tg/ the good Chapter Master.

>> No.5248370

>>5248170
>they repeat the doomed space marine joke but with dead space

>> No.5248379

I don't like how Doom 4 stated that most demons were actually UAC creations because that makes them less interesting and we already had hell being mostly brown floating rocks
With the fleshy aspect of hell making a comeback, i also hope to see eyeball switches and evil eye pros along with more tech x flesh stuff and the walls of souls

>> No.5248383

>>5248306
i think he meant his personality and his reveal trailer, which may feel out of place compared to how things felt in quake 2/4
>>5247265
which is weird when machinegames acknlowledges it and makes it partially canon

>> No.5248404

>>5246435
gotta say dude, i prefer grezzo 2 to your mod

>> No.5248413
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5248413

https://imgur.com/r/Doom/XebcAGy
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/102635-the-mark-of-the-slayer-supposedly-revealed-as-a-symbol-of-%E2%80%9Ca-sword-crucible-stabbing-down-into-flames-hell%E2%80%9D/?tab=comments#comment-1948600

>> No.5248420

>>5248379
>Doom 4 stated that most demons were actually UAC
thats only the cybernetic ones tho
ie revenant, manc, bosses

>> No.5248423

>>5248420
If i recall, the Specters were made through an accident where they try fixing a Pinky's sight

>> No.5248424

There is literally nothing wrong with first person platforming.

>> No.5248427

>>5248424
it always comes down to how it's actually done

>> No.5248434

>>5248424
There is if it's Doom's slippery physics and lack of air control

>> No.5248439

I'm trying to make a map. why won't doors operate from the back side sometimes? I made sure both faces had the same properties, and I've had to delete and remake some of them just to have them work when the player crosses them, otherwise he'd get entrapped in a room. it's so finnicky.

>> No.5248443

>>5248439
Are the linedefs facing outward from the door?

>> No.5248449
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5248449

>>5248443
oh. how do?

>> No.5248453

>>5248449
select the one facing inwards and hit f

>> No.5248454

>>5248449
Highlight the line (just hover your mouse over) and hit F.
The direction the line's penis is facing is the direction the linedef is facing. If the player interacts with the door from behind, it won't open.

>> No.5248457

>>5248453
thank you very much!

>> No.5248458

>>5248449
Flip the topmost linedef of the door; it's facing the wrong way.

>> No.5248489

>>5248449
>>5248457
Helpful tip when you're making triggers / switches for doors: only give the door walls the same tag numbers as the working trigger / switch. Don't bother giving the door the action you want it to do, otherwise it won't work.

>> No.5248503

This gonna sound like a dumb question bat can I not make a key locked lift?

>> No.5248505

>>5248503
you make a key locked switch that activates a lift

>> No.5248556

>>5248503
refer to >>5248489

You'd want to set an action for switch to raise the tagged floor to the next highest floor. Just give the switch and the floor you want to use as a lift the same tag number.

>> No.5248559
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5248559

Buffing some of the less threatening monsters results in bullying

>> No.5248596
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5248596

Is Id the last remaining retro shooter company that isn't MIA or didn't sell out?

>> No.5248605

>>5248596
I know they only have a single-level demo out right now, but 3D Realms is still making stuff.

>> No.5248614

>>5248449
>>5248457
remember that the notch in the middle always should be facing outward for a usable linedef

>> No.5248638

>>5248596
Even if they are truly sellouts, Epic Games is surely not as scummy as Bethesda and post-2007 Activision.

>> No.5248639

>>5248596
raven is a cod hostage (and probably sex enslaved) now

>> No.5248640

>>5248638
They did turn their $2000/seat industry standard engine into an affordable and easier to use tool for indie devs at least.

>> No.5248647
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>>5245571
I'm tired of this bullshit.

>> No.5248668

>>5247714
Several reasons, some people feel it's unfairly popular despite it's developer not being that skilled, some despise it for the time it was everywhere and considered the default mod that all others should work with, some really don't like the developer, some wish the developer would stick to just mapping instead, some are just on the community bandwagon for the ride.

>> No.5248673

>>5248596
>Is Id the last remaining retro shooter company that isn't MIA or didn't sell out?
I wish monolith would come back. Lithtech was a severely underated game engine.

>> No.5248674

>>5248673
that is to say I with they would come back to the FPS scene. They made a fair bit of cash on the LOTR games I imagine. They were pretty well regarded.

>> No.5248679

>>5248673
>>5248674
They're WB's pet, they're never going to do anything cool again.

>> No.5248681

>>5248679
>WB hates truly cool stuff
>what is the DCEU
>What are the majority of Arrowverse shows
>What is the DCAU

>> No.5248687

>>5248681
WB have fuck all regard for making decent games.

>> No.5248689

>>5248681
>what is garbage
I wonder...

>> No.5248690

>>5246674
You do realize you can get all those for free?

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>>5248689
>DCAU
>garbage
No.

>> No.5248694

>>5248413
Fuck me running

then this UAC is infact a Mirror amalgam of both the Original and DOOM 3 UAC

>> No.5248704

>>5248689
You know what else is garbage? F.E.A.R 3, which is what WB had made.

>> No.5248706

>>5248690
I don't give a shit if you pirate, but stop trying to cram it down my throat. I'll spend my money for legal copies of the game and you can't do a damn thing about it.

>> No.5248725

>>5248706
Sure it's your decision but why would you waste money like that. I don't get it.

>> No.5248726

>>5248706
I don't give a shit if you don't pirate, but stop acting like a self righteous jerk every time someone mentions it. Especially when other anons have no way to know you're the same guy who did not want to pirate earlier.

>> No.5248727

>>5248596
Monolith isn't MIA. Granted, their last FPS was in 2012.

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>>5248224
What the hell are you talking about? Duke Nukem was always framed as a badass, the original sidescrollers outright said he was immortal, and that when you died, you weren't rewinding to beginning of the level, Duke just revived and tried again.

>> No.5248760

>>5248596
3D Realms is Apogee is 3D Realms is Apogee.
They were Apogee, then they renamed themselves 3D Realms, then they started using the Apogee name again in recent years.

>> No.5248770

>>5248151
I need source on that image. Not even SauceNao could find it.

>> No.5248779

>>5248224
What the fuck is it with some of the losers on this site feeling the need to relate every character in pop culture to their loserdom. Eating burgers does not make Duke Nukem similar to some neckbeard NEET eating McDonalds.

>> No.5248781
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>>5248596
>Id
still around, albeit as part of Zenimax
>Epic games
Still around and not owned by either Zenimax, EA, Disney, or Modern Activision. Needs to revive Unreal tournament someday
>Valve
Sellouts and still are largely.
>3D Realms
MIA
>Bethesda
LYING SELLOUTS and GLITGH-JUNKIES WHO OUGHT TO BE AUDITED!
>Raven
MIA, likely a prisoner of Activision.
>Monolith
Middling now, and owned by WB,
>Apogee
Same as 3d Realms
>Ion Storm
DEAD
Also,
>Irrational games
died practically heroes
>Lucasarts
Killed by Di$ney
>Bungie
absorbed by Activision

>> No.5248783

>>5248596
Not quite retro, but Croteam

>> No.5248790

>>5248779
He probably has that one page from Manly Guys Doing Manly Things in mind.

>> No.5248792

>>5248309
>just because you take an issue with the game's presentation doesn't make it bad
Yes it does, DNF had extremely bad presentation. The fact that he outright mocks other games, many which are better than DNF, looks very bad and tacky, and makes it hard to like and sympathize with him.

In DN3D, you'd find Luke Skywalker's corpse in a cave on the moon, you'd find the monolith from Space Odyssey, there was Indiana Jones' corpse in a chamber, where if you took the powerup on the pedestal it would trigger an Indiana Jones style trap, you could find a monk Rise Of The Triad hung from a noose, you could find what's supposed to be the Unabomber's apartment (as well as some wanted posters for him here and there), you could see the O.J Simpsons car chase on a TV, you could find the bridge of the USS Enterprise. You could even find 867-5309 scrawled in a bathroom in a sleazy porno theater.

DN3D put in references, but usually just for yucks and/or in good faith, you didn't have Duke Nukem sardonically insinuate he's better than them, sometimes he wouldn't even have a comment for them, they were just there. Further you often had to go and find some of these, which were hidden away and in not obvious places. Some were references to current events, both dating it as a 90's game, and also serving as a small time capsule of the times.

DNF doesn't really do any of this in any of these ways.

>the arenas are a fair criticism, everything else was a deliberate design choice.
The arenas WERE a deliberate design choice, and it was terrible, just as many of the other deliberate design choices.
It was widely disliked for not being good, and it objectively is not.

>Duke really should've stayed in the 80's. the transition to a more modern environment only hurt his characterization.
He came from the 80's, as a sidescroller character, but his great fame came in the 90's, with Duke Nukem 3D.
Are you a retard?

>> No.5248798

>>5248792
What an embarrassing post. You wasted all that time writing that when he was talking about D44m with that line.

>> No.5248802

>>5248792
Anon, the first half of that post was referring to Doom 2016.

>> No.5248805

>>5248792
>Are you a retard?
Are you?

>> No.5248814

>>5248792
how
fucking how

>> No.5248824

>>5248792
I'm just going to ignore the massive slob of text you spruced up because you had a stroke.
>He came from the 80's, as a sidescroller character, but his great fame came in the 90's, with Duke Nukem 3D.
with that I had meant the godly, trashy 80's aesthetic with mature women and less of the generic jailbait blonde bimbo schlock in DNF which looked like shit.

>> No.5248840

>>5248824
In any case, while it came in the 90's, DN3D clearly evokes the action movies of the 80's.

>> No.5248847
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5248847

>tfw no PrBoom+ equivalent for Heretic

>> No.5248848

>>5248840
anon, just let it go.

alright, change of topics. anyone know why this happens or what causes it? it's really annoying.

>> No.5248851

>>5248848
But I was agreeing with you?

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>>5248848
forgot my file dammit

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>>5248798
>>5248802
>>5248805
>>5248814
>>5248824
I... I...
Fuck, I apologize, I let my hatred for Duke Nukem Forever blind my judgement and reading comprehension.
This is really embarrassing.

>> No.5248859

>>5248853
You're just playing Lilith 2.

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>>5248857

>> No.5248864
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>>5248857
You're recognizing your mistake and apologizing for it, which is more than a lot of anons here can do. 's alright.

>> No.5248892

>>5248857
no worri
>>5248859
>mfw my wad could win the next cacowards

>> No.5248901

>>5248424
It's only bad for consoles and their controllers because Analog stick movement is very bad at precision platforming. Keyboards or even a directional pad is a must, but I don't see console users ever using the d-pad outside of 2d games.

>>5248770
Search for "muscle chair" on one of the hentai sites.

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>>5248857
Your sins be forgiven.
Amen

>> No.5248921

>>5248857
I applaud you for not being a faggot and attempting to save face by blaming everyone except yourself for misinterpreting what someone said.

>> No.5248927

>>5248758
how do you think lives in video games work

>>5248779
because fictional characters don't exist outside of how people perceive them

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>>5248857
You know what? I would do the same.
Points for actual apology and honesty.

>> No.5248949

>>5248847
Give the devs at 1.5-2 more years

>> No.5248954

>>5246840
Eternal looks good to me because of 3 things:
1) The dash allows you to close distance in the air quickly, and it's handled way better than shadow warrior 2013 or UT2004.
2) You can now punch whenever you want rather than hitting demons with your gun, which felt horrible.
3) They have now accepted that the SSG is your main gun and mounted a movement mechanic on it.

Other than that, the rest of the shit is kinda cool or whatever but those three changes are mint.

>> No.5248965

>>5248424
I mostly agree. I never got why people complained about the platforming in Half-Life, it was perfectly fine to me.

>> No.5248967

>>5248424
Better than megawads turning into slaughterfests

>> No.5248980

>>5248927
>how do you think lives in video games work
As an abstraction for playing a game, and also a mechanic to entice people to feed more coins into an arcade machine.

It's rarely ever described as "I died, but I got better.", which is how Duke originally did it, he could not be killed, he would just come back to life after dying, and this was part of the narrative.

>> No.5248984

>>5248862
I deserve that.

>>5248927
>because fictional characters don't exist outside of how people perceive them
There's also misperceiving characters, as in the author intended one thing, presented one thing, but you don't necessarily get what he tries to convey.

>> No.5248989
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5248989

23 years ago today, The Master Levels was released. Say something nice about it

>> No.5248997

>>5248989
No.

>> No.5249010

>>5248984
>There's also misperceiving characters, as in the author intended one thing, presented one thing
Note that this is hardly 100% a set-in-stone thing that fans must adhere to, as by some people's reactions to the Doomguy/Doomslayer debacle, and Samus in Other M.

>> No.5249012

>>5248989
something nice


master levels

>> No.5249019

>>5248989
noone is nice to master levels because they dont try playing it as an episode. way better than pistol starting each one

>> No.5249024

>>5249019
Which order do you use to play them in?

>> No.5249043

>>5249019
>its way better when you completely disregard the intended balance of the levels

>> No.5249081

>>5248559
what's this test map?

>> No.5249082

Looks like American Mcgee is trying out some sort of FPS thing with an artist that does sickeningly cute shit.

https://twitter.com/GMShivers/status/1077421577380159488

>> No.5249109

>>5245571
What is with the overall level of hate most of 4/vr/ has towards Master Levels and certain a couple of the maps in Thy Flesh Consumed? They certainly aren't at the levels of shit that nearly all TerryWads are, but what gives?

>> No.5249114

>>5249109
there's people who don't share your opinion.

>> No.5249123

>>5249109
>Thy Flesh Consumed
Not shit, just punishing.

>> No.5249130

>>5249081
it's called Doomtest
dunno more than that, got it from another guy over a chat

>> No.5249131

>>5248224
He was a manly man with dork interests (if you consider quoting movies dorky... and it is). But otherwise he was /fit/ and a ladies man.
More accurately the whole world of Duke is a dorky action movie obsessed world, and Duke himself just happens to be the coolest guy there. There are references to everything outside of Duke's personality and quotes.
Makes sense that when the aliens attack the entire population disappears and waits for Duke to solve the problem - that's what would happen in a movie. And he does. Those are the rules their planet function on. Action movie rules.
DNF's issue is they became a parody of a parody. They should've used action movies as their inspiration instead of DN3D itself.
Bazinga.

>> No.5249146

>>5249043
They're not very good even within their intended balance. I really think Master Levels is the weakest product in the franchise by far, it's just so incredibly unsatisfying.

>> No.5249162

>>5249131
EXACTLY!

>> No.5249167

>>5249081
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=42&t=57221

>> No.5249171

One thing i like about GZDoom over PrBoom+ is how i can easily set up classic Doom automap by simply switching to another mode and not set up the colors individually.

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>>5249130
>>5249167
ty

>> No.5249184

>>5248989
besides the original release, did any other official release or version of the master levels had texts with descriptions for the levels?
the story behind the cyberdemon turned human was interesting

>> No.5249194

>>5248781
>Ion Storm
>DEAD
>DEADDD
>deaded
>DEAD
>UFF UFFUFF UFF
>word

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5249198

>>5249109
E4 varies but I think it has some good levels in it. The one common consensus is that the early levels are just really punishing and cruel. Some like them, some don't.

For Master Levels, I've heard people on here, people on YouTube, people on Doomworld, talk about a partial or whole dislike for them. I particularly hate Mephisto's Maosoleum, and I'm not alone in that.
I personally think the levels are very dull and too samey, they offer some challenge, but they use a very limited range of Doom 2's stock resources, and as a whole they're mostly very brown and tan colored. A lot of them feel like a chore to play.
They're not very pretty to look at, and the gameplay in them is mostly nothing very interesting. As far as a proper 'expansion pack' for Doom 2 goes, I think Final Doom does everything better, more interesting levels, better challenge, new assets and environments.

There's small parts I like about it though. You have the very early works of aspiring mapper Sverre Kvernmo, and while this is before he really got into form, so they aren't that good, it's interesting to look at. He had this series in mind, with a plotline, called The Cabal Series which is about a Cyberdemon in hell, disgraced and turned into a human as punishment, seeking vengeance. The problem is A), only parts of it qualified for Master Levels, and B), it's still not very good, you read the premise, and you get some ideas in your head, but the series fails to deliver, and it's not even all of it.

>> No.5249214

>>5248781
Epic let UT die again.

>> No.5249235

>>5248781
>Epic
Owned by chinks. A fate worse than death.

>> No.5249238

>>5249214
>that feel when they officially announced that UT4 was left to die because of Fortnite
I mean it was obvious for a long time but seeing them acknowledge it hurt

>> No.5249242

>>5249235
They got bought out by Chinamen? Oh man, that's the worst.

>>5249238
At least you have the luxury of knowing, Gabe Newel refuses to admit it and show us where the body is.

>> No.5249248

>>5249242
>chinamen

imagine saying this without irony

>> No.5249251

>>5249248
that is not the preferred nomenclature

>> No.5249256

>>5249248
nigger

>> No.5249257

>>5249251
wat

>> No.5249263

>>5249238
I didn't have confidence in it form the start but seeing Epic do that for a second time to UT really sucks.

Unreal and UT are basically a footnote for Epic now, when their suspect store was announced it was all "For the first time Epic are going to sell games made by other companies! They're the developers who made Fortnite so you know it'll be good! Oh they made some first person shooters once too" in the media.

>> No.5249264

>>5249235
>Epic is currently owned primarily by Chinese/Chinks
When did this happen? And are you sure its not Koreans instead?

>> No.5249268 [DELETED] 

>>5249256
>called out

>> No.5249271

>>5249248
What? They're men from China, thus Chinamen. It's not like I'm calling them "chinks", "zipperheads", or "slanteyes".

>>5249257
Shut the fuck up Donny.

>> No.5249272

>>5248857
>actually apologizing over the interwebs
I'm getting too old for this shit

>> No.5249274 [DELETED] 

>>5249271
>i'm not calling them chinks so that justifies me sounding like a 70 year old paranoid british man

>> No.5249276

>>5249272
>>>/usenet/

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5249294

c'est unf thaT Doom GUY is Night Sentinel now. Phobos or Johnson really not fit to play such space character thou no?

STrange they hire such angry man to do space marien when especially Karl Urban play with such raging panache - he also fit and fighter and beats Satan down a lot in first game so makes no sense to have Phobos be marines now that he so gods. What will he do? throw ammos at demons? make mod or make glory kill at demons? How he'll fight demons? Such stupid casting choice for game sopler if true in hupti ilahi's name that Hyaden is play true SLAYER.. Really dumb they chose Phobos to replay DoomguY due to first name alone? Why they do this? So dumb. Choose first name of Character to play character of new in videogame... unique idea? but dumb, maybe Phobos loveboys thought this community type humor is unique to Dooms and no one will notice?

The new game do look good. VERY GOOD. Doom GUy clear gained weight or his new marine costume actually with muscle padding compensate for lack of tone in body from original game. He look capable FINALLY. When out of costume he feels in appearance of MASTER CHEIF trying to tangle with Hayden. He has no eye like a weak man as Hayden STEAL and nearly DELETE marine and he teleport to hell like marine coward. In costume he look bigger, more mashcle and macho. STrong man.

I hear Olivia Pierce love Destroyer in film and that he kill by Hayden by putting taking sword from handand stop breathing of his body in Mars. That way Olivia Peirce cannot have garter with Destroyer or be in love with him any more since stop breathing. Olivia Pierce had eye for demon. They sex comical no? Abrudin-il-aoldin name. Biz-alammadul il kheriat I can't WAIT FOR game.

>> No.5249296

>>5249274
It's 4chan. Grow a thicker skin or please leave. Drop this stupid subject. Not everyone here spouts racial slurs but that's just the nature of the website, if you can't handle it, leave.
At this point I'm not sure if this is an elaborate troll or if you're genuinely offended at this, but I'm pretty sure a lot of people would be happier if you stopped this.

>> No.5249301

>>5249248
i thought chinaman was an actual term

>> No.5249304
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5249304

What the fuck is going on right now.

>> No.5249305 [DELETED] 

>>5249296
>It's 4chan
oh boy...

>> No.5249308 [DELETED] 

>>5249305
4chan, 4channel. The point still stands, shut up.

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>>5249294
I haven't laughed this hard in a long while

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>>5249296
>get called out for sounding like a butthurt turboboomer
>It's just 4chan and ur totes triggered LOL!

Fuck off and die. Something needs to be done about you "people".

>> No.5249313 [DELETED] 

>>5249296
UHHHHHHH excuse me sweetie but this is 4CHANNEL and we don't approve of that language HERE??

>> No.5249316 [DELETED] 

>>5249310
This. Morons who bring /pol/ trash and go "hurhurhur i am so le epik trolle" are worse than trash.

>> No.5249318

>>5248853
there is some doom in your interference

>> No.5249319 [DELETED] 

>>5249313
Ironic shitposting is still shitposting. You should go back as well.

>> No.5249331 [DELETED] 

>>5249310
So you're just trolling then, got it.

>> No.5249338
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5249338

>>5249294
>What will he do? throw ammos at demons? make mod or make glory kill at demons? How he'll fight demons?

>> No.5249340

>>5249294
WTF!?

>> No.5249350

>>5249294
>t.crackbaby

>> No.5249354

>>5249304
faggots being faggots

>> No.5249356

>>5249274
Do you also get mad when people say Britishmen? It's the same thing.

>> No.5249370
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5249370

This is fun. I just wish it would stop stutter. It always do it at the worst moments.
>run to a cultist
>game freezes for 0,2 second
>shoot cultist down
>health dropped from 100 to 11

>> No.5249374

>>5247779
When's "winner winner turkey dinner"

>> No.5249382

>>5248559
>RAISE

Is this a "raise a demon girl for sex"-mechanic?

>> No.5249385

>>5248781
Fortnite is modern-day Unreal Tournament. Get with the times, old fart.

>> No.5249392

>>5249385
Go to >>>/vg/ and talk about Fortnite there.

>> No.5249397

>>5249304
The usual /doom/ thread.

>> No.5249401
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5249401

>>5249374
Give it time.

>> No.5249403

>>5249385
Kids like it, but honestly it looks kind of toothless.

>> No.5249428

>>5249403
Fortnite is neither as bad as imagebeard neckbeards say it is nor as good as its popularity would indicate. It's a solid game. It succeeds at what it tries to do.

>> No.5249451

>>5249428
That's kind of what I figured. Looks like Team Deathmatch, (which is timeless), only with some twists, so I can see why that'll be popular if it does enough things right.

So do you think it'll be like Pokémon where it manages to hold on indefinitely (at least so far), or do you think it'll be more of a fad and it'll die out before the 2010's are over?

>> No.5249458
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5249458

Ran into a brick wall with mapping.

"Snap to grid" is on, but the objects and linedefs are only going exactly where my mouse clicks -- and for some reason I can't increase the number of grids with [ or ] or by zooming in / out.

Please help before I end myself.

>> No.5249459

>>5249451
Fad that'll lose 80% of it's playerbase once the next fad establishes itself.

>> No.5249478
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5249478

>mfw demons

>> No.5249643

>>5247851
Yeah. I accidentally the wad.
It should be fixed now.
https://www.mediafire.com/file/m87bdnh0bm17d7b/100minvr_v_1.wad/file
(note this is v1, not v0.1, because I think I got everything, but if not lemme know and I'll fix it)
Added a credits map (it's just a little apartment scene with a single custom texture for credits on the TV, replaces WOLF2 lump), since boom compatibility means I can't have it end with the monster roster.
Added coop player starts.
Added M_DOOM graphic.
>>5245572

>> No.5249654

>>5249643
what is this wad missing?, can we add a boss map, a secret level, something?

>> No.5249683
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>>5249643
I survived the first level with infighting, I never realized I had the berserk

>> No.5249686

>>5249654
Just maps, really. Can't change the order of secret levels and such, so the first exit would have to be on map15 and the next on map31. It's got 13 maps total atm, then a credits map.
So it would need 2 new maps just to get to the first secret exit (then the secret map and potentially another), and need to be a full 32 replacement for a boss map + secret levels.
boom compatibility means no access to a mapinfo lump so I can't shift this around.

>> No.5249704
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5249704

THAT'S NOT SNOW

>> No.5249710

>>5249686
well, we can resurrect it and finish it another time

>> No.5249716
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5249716

>>5249654
>>5249686
I also have 2 maps I made that I didn't think were as good as the others so I didn't include them
>>5249710
If'n that's what you guys want. atm it's just going to sit at v1. Feel free to make more maps for it though. I'll keep checking the news post as often as I can for replies.

>> No.5249723
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5249723

what was meant by this?

>> No.5249728

>>5249723
>health bar mod
Yikes.

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>>5249723
uhh what?

>> No.5249732
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5249732

WHAT THE FUCK IS THAT

>>5249728
yes boomer, it'd like to know when far along my enemies are

>> No.5249735
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>>5249732
fuck it, radioing for backup

>> No.5249737
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5249737

I DIDN'T SIGN UP FOR THIS

>> No.5249741
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5249741

Last red coin spotted.

>> No.5249745 [DELETED] 

>>5245648
What's with all the oversized feet?

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5249748

it's nice they gave one AFTER that shit

>>5249741
>filters

>> No.5249749

>>5245649
What's with all the oversized feet?

>> No.5249751

>>5248989
Black Tower and Blood Sea are the only good maps

>> No.5249753

>>5249737
where are those weapons from?

>> No.5249756
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5249756

>>5249748
Don't blame me, I have no idea what most of the options do.
Anyway, after 30 minutes of running around the map, I decide to cheat, and jump on a post, with the dastardly plan of jumping on the portal, and reach the coin from here.

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5249762

>>5249749
it's a thing he clearly explained

>> No.5249763

>>5249756
>>5249741
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UnhrPeNoQfA

this is a handy guide to disabling the blurry sprites for gzdoom
unless you like how they look, in which case i will make fun of you for like a post or two because i think they look shitty and then stop caring because more people playing doom is cool

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>>5249753
helstrum, the successor of x-weapons

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>>5249763
I'll try that later.

In the meantime, I did reach the coin. But I still feel like I cheated.

>> No.5249778

>>5249716
I support releasing it now (or in a day or two in case any more bugs are found). Not every wad needs to be a megawad. 13 maps is plenty.

>> No.5249785

>>5249778
Yeah, that's probably for the best.

>> No.5249813

Aaand I'm stuck again. Missing souls to climb the stairs, no other level to do.

Guess that wad is just unfinished. But at least, my next screenshots will be a lot better without that awful blur.

>> No.5249845

Has there ever been a Doom mod with pushable walls / blocks?

>> No.5249846
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>> No.5249847

>>5249845
Well Golden Souls 1 and 2 do, but I don't know about any "traditional" Doom wads that have those elements.

>> No.5250006

>>5249770
cheating or no, you got it

golden souls has a lot of those moments

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5250014

Time for cartoons

>> No.5250029

>>5250006
I'm not sure I like the platforming elements.

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5250040

>Enemies Killed: 50%

Dude I blew up the base, none of them are left alive

>> No.5250076

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HfSVb_1jZE4
I'm starting to understand why some people bitch at reused assets. It troubles me when a spooky demon moans like a gnaar.

>> No.5250081

>>5250076
the truth is, after 25 years of doom and doom mods, i've grown sick of seeing the blood tommygun sprite

>> No.5250094

>>5250076
This wad fucking sucks ass. And of course the guy playing it has a terrible filter on.

>> No.5250101

>>5250094
Can't criticize his filter because I've been using the same until >>5249763 arrived, but I don't like the wad. It could be atmospheric and spooky, but that gnaar groan...

>> No.5250106

Which Quake is best, and why it's Quake 4?

>> No.5250107

>>5250076
A lot of these are kind of just grabbed from Realm667 all willy nilly, and then mixed with regular Doom stuff.

This has kind of amateurish quality to it IMO.

>> No.5250109

>>5248989
Am I the only one here who thinks that the Master Levels is most interesting and fun vanilla map pack?

>> No.5250112

>>5249723
>>5249729
>>5249732
>>5249735
>>5249735
>>5249737
>>5249748
What mod is this?

>> No.5250113

>>5250106
Sir, I'm gonna need you to explain your reasoning.

>> No.5250153

>>5246360
Anyone?

>> No.5250195

>>5249845
>>5249847
There's some one set in ruins in a desert that does but I'm drawing a blank on what the shit it was called.

>> No.5250217
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5250217

>>5249184
I literally linked it in the last thread >>5241097
> Here you go:
> http://iddqd.ru/levels?find=Master+Levels+Menu+Interface
> Just click the "Гoтoвaя cбopкa" to download the .pk3
> It's the whole Master Levels collection neatly compiled into a single file with a nice level selection interface.

>> No.5250243

>>5245892
Doom'16 is objectively good game
too bad it's more of a Pankiller's spiritual successor than it is of Doom, but hey, PK is a good game too.
Too bad modern devs forgot how to make encounters that are not in an enclosed area.

>>5246517
>>5246158
I found actual shooting in Doom 3 to be really lackluster and not at all as enjoyable as in other Dooms. If I wanted to play a horror, I'd play some other game as well. So in the end it does not scratch neither my horror itch (not scary enough, scares are too simple), nor my shooting itch.


>>5245952
GF3 vid were reaching into the Doom audience - "look how we can inject anything into Doom!" .
BD videos reached out to genereal FPS audience - "Look, this old shooter can be more violent and fun than all the neutered modern shooter!"
Which is why articles on mainstream sites were written about BD, and not GF3.

>> No.5250245

>>5250217
>pic
Choolate DOOM probably.

>> No.5250256

>>5250245
It's just got a level selection menu that imitates the look of DOS Master Levels menu.

>> No.5250258

>>5250243
Painkiller is good before the feeling of a constant slog through every single with waves of spawning enemies kicks in.

I wonder if there's a mod that gives it more traditional spawns.

>> No.5250267

>>5250245
What? No, it's GZDoom.

>> No.5250289
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5250289

why does nobody play deathmatch on doomseeker anymore?
It's like the only multiplayer mode I give a shit about and when it's up it's just usually a dude w/ 3 bots playing a doom 4 mod, no classic DM.
Am I looking in the wrong place? Wrong time?

>> No.5250306

>>5250289
also megagame is pretty much the only deathmatch mode that is consistently up which I don't understand
how're there so many people playing megagame and not classic DM?

>> No.5250308

Any good music packs out there for doom1/2?
I've finally gotten tired of the same sick guitar riffs, trying out a genesis/megadrive one but it's kind of mediocre. I'd love something chiptune-ish like this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3HSpWQH4iRs

>> No.5250319

>>5250289
because people don't share your opinion.

>> No.5250324

>>5250319
you telling me the majority of people who play doom in [current year] don't care for deathmatch?

>> No.5250331

>>5250324
yes. especially when ping is an issue that can make DM a shitty experience. even at 60 ping your shots feel delayed, which is a much bigger issue in DM than coop game modes.

>> No.5250360

>>5249643
Checked my levels (Action Max) and they all look like the final versions to me. Only just noticed that the door out of the acid room in map02 disappears into the sky and the door into the room is logically impossible, but that's my fault for setting the ceiling heights wrong. I guess that's part of the speedmapping charm.

>> No.5250365

>>5250258
PK's maps are not designed for that, there'd be way too few enemies and it will be over too quickly even if you pack the areas to the brim (unless you go full chillax.wad, but that will be just as boring as respawns).

Also Doom'16 is rather short, so it ends before it gets old, and also does much better with its monster variety than PK - PK has many different enemies, but they have few archetypes and are used thematically with only 2-4 enemy types per level which contributes to the repetitivness.

>>5250289
it's not like the concept was improved upon in the following years

>> No.5250371

>>5250331
how the fuck is ping an issue in god damned doom
the game came out in 1993
so many people were playing multiplayer doom on fucking dial-up

>> No.5250375

>>5248781
Epic games is now TENCENT Games, so RIP!

>> No.5250386

>>5250371
Old Doom just sent over inputs and synchronised player positions and the current point of its pseudo-random number generator to keep things consistent.

Zandronum whichis what most people use is a ZDoom fork, and it has to synch up a hundred times more shit than old Doom did, even when you are playing without the mods because of the fundamental changes made by DECORATE and ZScript.

ZDaemon and Odamex are much more lenient on the ping, but are also much more vanilla which is not up to everyones tastes.

>> No.5250435

>>5250365
>>5250289
if it ain't broke don't fix it

>> No.5250451

>>5250435
what did he mean by this

>> No.5250542

>>5250375
When did they change their name?
>>5249235
WHEN THE FUCK did Epic Games get taken over by Chinamen or Koreans?

>> No.5250547

>>5250360
>I guess that's part of the speedmapping charm.
I always thought so.

>> No.5250549

>>5250542
TENCENT, the corrupt chinks now owns them, ACTIBlizzard, GGG and other companies

>> No.5250550

>>5250542
Tencent owns 40% of their stock. They don't own them.

>> No.5250580 [DELETED] 

>>5250549
>the corrupt chinks
This is not /pol/ here, in case you didn't notice. Keep your racism out of /vr/.

>> No.5250587

>>5250580
anon, Everything that Tencent touches it dies and rots

They killed Lol and Runescape

>> No.5250592

>>5250587
LoL was dead the moment they released the tribunal and had people banned for being scapegoats to their team.

>> No.5250715

New thread.

>>5250713
>>5250713
>>5250713

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>>5250076
it's because of two words: pure laziness

>>5250112
which one?

>> No.5251057

>>5250580
This is also 4chan here, a degree of political incorrectness has been here since fucking forever. Stop whining.

>> No.5251061

>>5251057
um no sweetie, this is 4channel

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