Honest thoughts on Tsukihime: Blue Blue Glass Moon, Under The Crimson Air by TYPE-MOON?

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Anonymous Sun, Dec 23, 2018 17:00:38 No.5242181 [Reply] [Original]

Honest thoughts on Tsukihime: Blue Blue Glass Moon, Under The Crimson Air by TYPE-MOON?

>>	Anonymous Sun, Dec 23, 2018 17:06:46 No.5242190 >>5242181 One of the greatest VNs ever written. Hisui is best girl.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Dec 23, 2018 17:15:11 No.5242204 Meh

>>	Anonymous Sun, Dec 23, 2018 17:52:23 No.5242295 >>5242181 It's pretty good for a doujin game of its era.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Dec 23, 2018 21:27:37 No.5242787 File: 269 KB, 1500x1336, 81a5rM0G55L._SL1500_.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Reminder that the Far Side routes are a rip-off of Kizuato. Somehow this is little known amongst EOPs.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Dec 23, 2018 21:35:04 No.5242798 File: 64 KB, 644x504, this chair.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I like it but it's not retro, OP. If Deus Ex threads get deleted because the game was released in 2000 then expect this one to be too. Polite sage.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Dec 23, 2018 23:31:41 No.5242995 >>5242798 kill yourself

>>	Anonymous Sun, Dec 23, 2018 23:46:13 No.5243034 Tsukihime seems like a cool game that I want to play because I enjoyed F/SN, but it also sounds like it's got a ton of rape and Shiki seems like a real shitter.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Dec 23, 2018 23:52:38 No.5243039 >>5242181 Kamige.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Dec 24, 2018 00:29:08 No.5243087 >>5242181 ATARI DUMBLEDORE FROM PORKSLOPE TURKEYHANDLE I'D HIT IT

Anonymous Mon, Dec 24, 2018 00:31:19 No.5243092

>>5242787
>Reminder that the Far Side routes are a rip-off of Kizuato.

They're not really alike beyond surface plot that sets the stages. Putting aside the fact that the first person to spread it around repeated inaccurate details about the plot - which is pretty hard evidence that he never read it himself -
it's more important that although the games share superficial similarities (half of which is a common trope throughout many works), the vast majority of the games diverge and cover different themes, ideas, etc etc to the point comparing them is ridiculous. Kizuato is really bare bones and has no flavour to it really, nothing like the nasuverse and the crazy shit that goes down in Tsukihime. There's just enough similarities to make memes but to anyone who's read both they couldn't be more different.

Like, the reveal of the real murderer in Kizuato is borderline pathetic and the whole thing is really freaking weird and offputting:The murderer just happens to be a cousin of the MC, nothing deep to it just an illegitimate child. His real identity is the detective assistant you see like once in the whole game before the reveal. His murderer motive is just that he was lonely with no friends except one guy befriended him (his neighbor), and then that one guy got raped in the ass by his (male) debtor/master cause he tried to escape from him. That's it. That's the whole main villain, whoopdeedoo. Whereas SHIKI's dual nature with Roa and all that about the Dead Apostles is really interesting in a chuuni kind of way. I mean, compare the Nanaya clan and all that toa clan descended from a pissed off samurai who half-raped a goddamn alien girl who got stuck on earth cause her and a bunch of other alien's ship fucked up when it crashed. I wouldn't go so far as to call Kizuato trash or anything but it's really not good at all, and nothing comparable to Tsukihime past the initial setup.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Dec 24, 2018 00:32:42 No.5243095 >>5243034 Shiki is cool, and aside from some backstory stuff, the only rape scene leads to a game over.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Dec 24, 2018 00:46:59 No.5243119 >>5242181 Are there any happy endings with Arc?

>>	Anonymous Mon, Dec 24, 2018 00:57:01 No.5243131 File: 26 KB, 1104x920, tsukihime.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5243119 Yes.

Anonymous Mon, Dec 24, 2018 01:03:54 No.5243141

>>5243119
>>5243131
And details, from memory:
Arcueid's true ending has her so weakened from the events at the end that she needs to rest to recover from her injuries in order to survive. She tells Shiki that she doesn't know how long it will take her to recover, but that it MIGHT happen within his lifetime so that she'll be able to see him again. It's a downer ending, but at least it tugs on your heart strings.
Her good ending is basically the same, but she recovers in a couple weeks and returns to be Shiki's girlfriend, happy end. As you might guess, it's pretty lame and contrived.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Dec 24, 2018 01:08:13 No.5243150 >>5242798 it's '99 in its doujin game form, so it fits

>>	Anonymous Mon, Dec 24, 2018 01:11:55 No.5243152 >>5243150 Incorrect. Near Side was released at C58 in August of 2000, and the full game came out at C59 in December of 2000.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Dec 24, 2018 01:14:04 No.5243157 >>5243141 >>5243119 Ciel's ending where Arcueid stays with them to bugger Shiki forever is the best.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Dec 24, 2018 01:14:49 No.5243158 >>5243157 Both of Ciel's endings, Ciel's route, and Ciel are all awful garbage.

Anonymous Mon, Dec 24, 2018 01:20:05 No.5243162

>>5243131
>>5243141
>>5243158
I wasn't expecting to actually get the answer I needed. Wow. Based /vr/

My next question is, then, what's the best way to play it? Have there been any remakes or improved translations? FSN style voice patch so I can hear Ryoka Yuzuki's voice?

>>	Anonymous Mon, Dec 24, 2018 01:22:30 No.5243165 >>5243162 No improved translation. There was a slightly improved version (better audio) released in the Tsukibako box set, there's guides out there for how to update your version of the translated game with the Tsukibako audio.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Dec 24, 2018 01:23:46 No.5243169 >>5243162 >not knowing how huge Tsukihime is on 4chan

>>	Anonymous Mon, Dec 24, 2018 01:24:56 No.5243173 >>5243162 >Have there been any remakes ;_;

>>	Anonymous Mon, Dec 24, 2018 01:25:42 No.5243175 >>5243173 ENDLESS SOON

>>	Anonymous Mon, Dec 24, 2018 01:34:39 No.5243183 File: 74 KB, 384x512, 275954_p0.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5242181 I love Arc but hate Shiki and his narration. Ciel a shit. Haven't played Far Side routes yet. Also, Merry Arcmas Eve.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Dec 24, 2018 01:41:53 No.5243189 >>5243183 Far Side is the better half. No Ciel there either, just a bunch of best girls.

Anonymous Mon, Dec 24, 2018 01:42:13 No.5243191

>>5243165
Damn. If there's no voice acting, then I don't really care about sound. It's mostly just Ryoka's voice I want to hear

>>5243173
Isn't it sad Sacchin?

>>5243183
Shiki is about as generic self-insert as you can get, this is why I have been reluctant to start this VN

>>	Anonymous Mon, Dec 24, 2018 01:44:52 No.5243194 >>5243131 how do you get arc's good end?

>>	Anonymous Mon, Dec 24, 2018 01:51:18 No.5243204 >>5243191 >compulsive killer maniac >generic self insert

Anonymous Mon, Dec 24, 2018 01:51:57 No.5243205

>>5243194
To get the second ending for a route, reload to the last time you made a decision in that route and play again from that point. There'll be a new choice somewhere during that final stretch that will determine which ending you get, so just pick whatever choice makes Shiki act differently from how he automatically did the first time.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Dec 24, 2018 01:58:20 No.5243210 >>5243205 that sounds pretty advanced for a game Tsukihime's age. i guess i should ask, how do i make sure to get the arc route just in general? i don't know how the routes are structured

Anonymous Mon, Dec 24, 2018 02:01:24 No.5243214

>>5243210
In general, just try to be friendly with Arc and don't trust or interact too much with Ciel. Various actions tend to give you points towards a certain girl's affection, and this will sometimes influence the game's direction.
Arc and Ciel's routes are the most closely connected ones in the game.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Dec 24, 2018 02:05:34 No.5243221 >>5243158 >Both of Ciel's endings, Ciel's route, and Ciel are all awful garbage. What's wrong with Ciel's route?

>>	Anonymous Mon, Dec 24, 2018 02:12:43 No.5243229 >>5243221 Her routes smell like a cab sir

>>	Anonymous Mon, Dec 24, 2018 02:12:53 No.5243230 >>5243221 Ciel.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Dec 24, 2018 02:17:29 No.5243238 File: 67 KB, 465x257, Ciel route.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5243221

>>	Anonymous Mon, Dec 24, 2018 02:25:47 No.5243246 File: 209 KB, 628x880, 692e4da3b125725134f8234d82ba7805.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5243183 Merry Arcsmas, Anons

>>	Anonymous Mon, Dec 24, 2018 06:41:25 No.5243478 >>5243210 >that sounds pretty advanced for a game Tsukihime's age It's literally just "if flag for route clear is set, display this decision, otherwise just go straight to option A".

Anonymous Mon, Dec 24, 2018 07:08:18 No.5243505
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>>5242181
decent read, but the music is repetitive and dull, with the H-scene tune being the only decent one. The music replacement pack by Mirror Moon was incredibly good however.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Dec 24, 2018 07:54:54 No.5243563 File: 269 KB, 1000x879, c4bd0b598779cbc19809fdf8e8d63b78c01ea795.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5243183 i heard you talkin shit about the best french curry girl

>>	Anonymous Mon, Dec 24, 2018 08:23:38 No.5243619 File: 1.84 MB, 551x311, 1521058480817.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I really enjoyed this vn It upsets me that only one good VN came after it(Ataraxia)

>>	Anonymous Mon, Dec 24, 2018 10:12:53 No.5243834 >>5243034 Jesus, how much of a pussy do you have to be?

>>	Anonymous Mon, Dec 24, 2018 13:00:56 No.5244090 >Hisui > Akiha > Arc > Kohaku >Sacchin >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ciel

>>	Anonymous Mon, Dec 24, 2018 13:59:31 No.5244162 >>5243034 >but it also sounds like it's got a ton of rape Japanese fiction is not for you fren >>5243834 Shiki is a real shitter

>>	Anonymous Mon, Dec 24, 2018 14:48:15 No.5244247 File: 110 KB, 261x458, PicsArt_12-24-08.47.56.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5243563 posting curry girl, except good

Anonymous Mon, Dec 24, 2018 14:48:34 No.5244248

I thought it was kind of meh. As porn, it isn't very sexy to me, and the story is not really my thing either, kind of reminds me of a cross between twilight fanfiction (before twilight, though, iirc) and a shonen action anime. If you enjoy either of those, it is a well-done VN, however, with memorable characters.
I'm more of a big 07th expansion fan as far as these sorta doujin original VNs go. I am sure there are Type-Moon fans who would say that 07th expansion is dumb and Type Moon does it better, and as long as they can elaborate they are probably right for them. It comes down to personal taste.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Dec 24, 2018 16:13:28 No.5244407 >>5244248 07th stuff is too slow for me. I liked the Higurashi anime but that's because it obviously had to reveal story elements a lot faster than a VN

>>	Anonymous Mon, Dec 24, 2018 18:05:58 No.5244636 >>5242181 This isn't retro, game was released in december of 2000 and the cutoff for /vr/ is 1999. Please delete, thanks.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Dec 24, 2018 18:15:51 No.5244661 >>5244407 >07th stuff is too slow for me. brainlet

>>	Anonymous Mon, Dec 24, 2018 18:54:06 No.5244745 >>5244636 Please delete yourself

>>	Anonymous Mon, Dec 24, 2018 23:11:36 No.5245135 >>5244745 There are rules tho

>>	Anonymous Mon, Dec 24, 2018 23:46:54 No.5245209 >>5245135 If you want to go there, the first release of Tsukihime was in 1999 at Comiket 56.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Dec 25, 2018 00:29:17 No.5245265 >>5243131 I wonder, did anyone else find the mirrormoon fanfic thing they added in the final menu? Was it funny enough to include?

Anonymous Tue, Dec 25, 2018 00:36:01 No.5245289
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>>5243162
>what's the best way to play it?

Tsukihime
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Tsukihime PLUS+DISK
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Tsukihime Kagetsu Tohya
https://sukebei.nyaa.si/view/2502321

Tsukihime Manga
https://mega.nz/#F!dRwwAZrT!uxmDDlwDTu3bgo9QIKgSrQ

>>	Anonymous Tue, Dec 25, 2018 00:38:17 No.5245293 >>5245209 That was a demo. The full game wasn't released for another year.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Dec 25, 2018 00:40:32 No.5245295 >>5245289 That's the translated version, which is by definition not the best way to play it.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Dec 25, 2018 01:55:47 No.5245418 >>5245295 For untranslated get the Tsukibako version and use inmm.dll to hook in the soundtrack of your choice. Personally I don't like the Tsukibako soundtrack, so I'd definitely go with either the original or the Ever After one.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Dec 25, 2018 17:51:36 No.5246954 >>5244090 This looks about right.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Dec 25, 2018 19:01:10 No.5247085 >>5245418 >For untranslated get the Tsukibako version What are the differences been Tsukihime or Tsukobako, and Fate/stay night or Realta Nua?

>>	Anonymous Tue, Dec 25, 2018 19:02:09 No.5247091 Playing it now for the first time blind. Hisui is cute but I think she doesn't like me. Fortunately, Arc does like me.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Dec 25, 2018 19:04:49 No.5247095 >>5247085 unsure about Tsukibaiko but Realta nua is what you should play for Fate/stay it adds in everything from the ps2 version to the pc version making battles not just slashes and a black screen

>>	Anonymous Tue, Dec 25, 2018 21:01:04 No.5247324 >>5247085 >>5247095 Tsukibako is a box set that includes Tsukihime and its sequels. The difference between the Tsukibako version of Tsukihime and the standalone version is just that the Tsukibako version has a different soundtrack.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Dec 25, 2018 21:04:02 No.5247331 >>5247091 Hisui is best girl. And she does like you, she's just reserved for a reason.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Dec 25, 2018 21:10:54 No.5247349 >>5244090 >Sacchin that low

>>	Anonymous Tue, Dec 25, 2018 22:59:31 No.5247513 >>5247349 Who?

>>	Anonymous Tue, Dec 25, 2018 23:01:12 No.5247516 all i want is the REAL TRUTH on why the remake is coming out so damn slow. was it officially canceled? because i don't think nasu is that tied up with fuckin FGO. there's a lot of text in that but not THAT much.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Dec 25, 2018 23:07:01 No.5247526 >>5247516 TM isn’t a VN company anymore

>>	Anonymous Tue, Dec 25, 2018 23:10:34 No.5247538 >>5247324 It's also preupdated. For the original you'd have to apply the updates yourself.

Anonymous Tue, Dec 25, 2018 23:38:44 No.5247620
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>>5242181
I've always wanted to read Tsukihime, and move onto FATE, but nyaa only has FATE and the Tsukihime bonus discs.
I have no idea where to get the proper version of Tsukihime.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Dec 26, 2018 00:00:02 No.5247659 >>5247620 >>5245289

>>	Anonymous Wed, Dec 26, 2018 00:08:30 No.5247676 Akiha gave me fetishes for long hair, black hair and ojousamas all in one. She was a turning point.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Dec 26, 2018 00:11:28 No.5247682 >>5247676 Oh, and white hairband too.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Dec 26, 2018 01:29:13 No.5247769 >>5247526 Why isn't TM a VN company anymore?

>>	Anonymous Wed, Dec 26, 2018 01:30:24 No.5247771 >>5247769 VNs don't make money. Mobage do.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Dec 26, 2018 01:35:47 No.5247778 >>5247771 Nitpick, but "Mobage" is the name of a specific company. "Soshage" (social games) is the term used in Japan for those kinds of games. Not sure why Western weebs latched onto the word "mobage" and started using it as a generic term.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Dec 26, 2018 01:37:34 No.5247781 >>5247778 I thought "mobage" meant "MOBAiru GEemu", mobile games?

>>	Anonymous Wed, Dec 26, 2018 01:49:08 No.5247792 >>5247781 That's what it means, yes, but it's not a generic term. It's the name of a specific company/service that does various things related to soshage: https://www.mbga.jp/

>>	Anonymous Wed, Dec 26, 2018 03:11:42 No.5247856 >>5247620 Learn Japanese first.

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