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Anonymous Sun Dec 16 21:39:33 2018 No.5226272 [Reply] [Original]

Atari 8-bit emulation... What does /vr/ use: Atari800, Altirra, Atari++, or something else?

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 16 21:51:50 2018 No.5226297 >>5226272 I only Atari800 on Wiixl for 5200 so far. And use Stella (many platforms) and Wii7800.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 17 16:20:57 2018 No.5227979 >>5226272 I use Altirra for EVERYTHING Atari 8-Bit. I currently only really played Alley Cat and Defender, but i have this weird Atari 8-Bit demo from Poland called "Numen". It's actually pretty good and really graphically advanced.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 18 10:45:24 2018 No.5229731 Why even ask this question? /vr/ is generally very bad at discussing retro computers.

Anonymous Tue Dec 18 11:05:49 2018 No.5229752

>>5229731
Maybe he wants to introduce more retro pc discussion?

But yeah, if you have a younger audience (even this board is a bit young for it) the talking will be hard since many here would have, at best, used these machines as kids, and even less likely that they did real computing with them. The problem is further exacerbated by the high population of Americans here, who were even less likely to be using home computers at this time, particularly on a games board.

I guess maybe /g/ would be a better fit.

Anonymous Tue Dec 18 11:17:52 2018 No.5229775
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>>5229752
>The problem is further exacerbated by the high population of Americans here, who were even less likely to be using home computers at this time, particularly on a games board.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 19 04:17:25 2018 No.5230675 >>5229775 Please do not feed the Yuropeans. It is neither kind nor necessary.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 20 00:17:04 2018 No.5232916 Really who gave a shit about the A8s in Europe? They were an irrelevant budget machine there.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 20 00:19:30 2018 No.5232923 >>5229731 It’s because the games have literally zero redeeming qualities. Anything before the NES and the entirety of britbong computers only appeal to nostalgia.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 20 01:14:23 2018 No.5233061 >>5232923 >he's never heard of Elite oh the eternal seppo

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 20 01:41:22 2018 No.5233106 >>5233061 I'm Canadian?

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 20 01:44:59 2018 No.5233114 >>5233106 It's not a board with flags. I'm doing the best I can, you know.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 20 01:46:11 2018 No.5233118 >>5233061 Poor colonial didn't even have SCART on his TVs despite using the PAL standard.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 20 02:00:54 2018 No.5233156 File: 1.39 MB, 280x210, 4d7b46afa999f2e3f4e594e258183c1f5b0d32af3e45541d4b873a04f3e0e2e6.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5232923 Sure is zoomer in here.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 20 02:05:01 2018 No.5233162 >>5233118 Every TV i've ever owned has had at least 1 SCART port, but thanks for the comment.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 20 02:36:42 2018 No.5233203 >>5233162 https://www.avforums.com/threads/scart-in-australia.76840/ He's not kidding. SCART never did make it to Oz for some reason.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 20 02:40:23 2018 No.5233209 It was mandated by law in France that all TVs have SCART, but mostly because SECAM was such a terrible broadcast standard.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 20 02:46:00 2018 No.5233215 >>5232916 There was a revival in Eastern Europe in the early 90s for a bit.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 20 03:02:35 2018 No.5233235 Atari800Win is way outdated and hasn't been updated in years.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 20 03:43:19 2018 No.5233297 File: 1 KB, 336x240, ali_baba.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] My brothers and I used to play Ali Baba on the Atari 800 when we were kids It's a great multi-player RPG with a lot of options

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 20 04:02:36 2018 No.5233320 >>5233297 Also on the Apple II and it seems like the company (Quality Software) didn't last too long. But then again, the Atari 8-bit went into the grave in 1985 anyway.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 20 06:10:18 2018 No.5233478 >>5226272 There's no games on them still worth playing.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 20 09:28:48 2018 No.5233712 >>5233478 But not Seven Cities of Gold?

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 20 14:49:00 2018 No.5234282 Atari 8-bit is still the best way to play Montezuma's Revenge, the SMS version notwithstanding. I'd argue its Blue Max was th best, though C64fags may disagree.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 20 15:03:55 2018 No.5234319 >>5233320 The XL and XE series lasted slightly longer.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 20 15:06:19 2018 No.5234324 >>5234319 Other than some light gun games, what was the new software? Every joystick game on that thing was just an older floppy disk game repackaged as a cartridge, thanks to the improved cartridge slot.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 20 15:07:27 2018 No.5234327 >>5234324 Desert Falcon Commando port(unreleased)

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 20 23:56:36 2018 No.5235531 >>5234327 >Commando They probably gave up. Trying to port that onto the Atari at all would be a huge challenge. With only four player sprites and 128 characters, it would be tough.

Anonymous Fri Dec 21 00:35:29 2018 No.5235586

As far as NTSC software, about 85% of the library is 1985 or earlier. Later stuff is virtually all budget PAL tape games, excluding the Indian Summer the A8s had in Eastern Europe from 1990-93.

Although to be fair, there never was a true PAL model of the A8 chipset anyway and PAL machines just display everything with huge borders and the artifact coloring feature of hi-res mode doesn't work.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 21 00:47:53 2018 No.5235616 I don't think there's more than a handful of scrolling platformers on the A8s.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 21 13:30:15 2018 No.5236638 >>5226272 Did the Atari 8-bit series ever have a mouse officially released. If so, Why no Maniac Mansion or Labyrinth, not even for PAL countries only?

Anonymous Fri Dec 21 13:36:14 2018 No.5236665

>>5236638
There wasn't any mouse and there was no Maniac Mansion, in fact the A8s were the first platform that LucasArts dropped support for Also MM would be really difficult to pull off with the A8's hardware and probably require a 130XE which hardly anyone had anyway.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 21 13:39:18 2018 No.5236675 >>5236665 Explain.

Anonymous Fri Dec 21 13:49:41 2018 No.5236696

>>5236675
MM on the C64 uses char mode for all background graphics and each character is a single sprite made triple height with a multiplexer. This is not viable on the A8 because it has only 128 characters and the sprites are too limited. It would essentially need bitmap mode and soft sprites (maybe a player sprite for the cursor) but even then everything would look very bland and monochromatic since the playfield is going to be limited to four colors.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 21 15:04:54 2018 No.5236854 >>5234282 it's the best way to play anything by synapse software, as well. also the 3d lucasarts games.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 21 15:10:46 2018 No.5236862 >>5236854 I don't like the C64 Shamus, I really don't. For one thing, your shots are tiny which makes it frustrating to hit enemies and in general it's very cheap compared with the Atari or the PC versions.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 21 18:06:00 2018 No.5237358 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xxCYy1UJFdY

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 22 03:25:35 2018 No.5238278 >>5237358 Disappointingly weak compared with the C64. It looks like an Atari 2600 game.

Anonymous Sat Dec 22 04:27:05 2018 No.5238354

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iqMZZF12x-w

Satan's Hollow. The C64 port is a classic, this Atari conversion, done by CBS Software, really shows the limitations of the A8 versus the C64, particularly in terms of sprite capabilities. It was never actually released (most likely thanks to the video game crash) despite being completed and presumably the programmer leaked it to a BBS.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 22 06:04:42 2018 No.5238484 >>5238354 It's strange but CBS Software still put out all those Sesame Street games in 84 despite facing imminent bankruptcy.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 22 06:12:12 2018 No.5238493 >>5238484 They may have been under contractual obligation to Children's Television Workshop to finish them.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 22 06:13:58 2018 No.5238495 Retro threads on /g/ are lousy. Unless I make them myself, they always seem to start with some Reddit-tier OP post.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 22 06:18:18 2018 No.5238502 >>5238495 >>>/g/69009484 This? It's just a containment thread to house escaped Redditors. Hide and ignore (or start a different thread).

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 22 12:43:13 2018 No.5239090 >>5235531 Commando was ported to the 7800. Unplayable. It's probably a good thing they abandoned the XE version.

Anonymous Sat Dec 22 15:41:44 2018 No.5239468

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=61&v=oj6HzcaePaw

Commando for the A8 was definitely finished, they just never released it. It's not a bad conversion, but like most A8 games they used up all the player sprites for the MC and the enemies are soft sprites made with character graphics. The music doesn't touch the C64 Commando as you'd expect.

Anonymous Sat Dec 22 15:52:59 2018 No.5239495

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o9yEmSK3EUI

The NES version of Commando I'm not a huge fan of. It's not programmed too well (lots of bugs and graphics glitches) because it was one of the earliest games Capcom made for the system. Also it adds some extra fluff like rescuing the prisoners from the dungeons that wasn't in the arcade game.

Anonymous Sat Dec 22 15:57:24 2018 No.5239505

Also some people a few years ago made a C64 Commando Remastered which added in all eight levels from the arcade game (the original was missing some stuff). Rather odd choice but it was already a pretty good conversion to begin with, so why not just take it and add what they missed due to (likely) time constraints.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 22 16:06:34 2018 No.5239520 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tqzdYWsTujA That comment section wasn't very nice or called for.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 22 16:48:56 2018 No.5239605 >>>/g/69028533 Another garbage Reddit escapee thread.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 22 16:59:02 2018 No.5239628 >>5239495 It was still more playable than the FC Frontline, and arguably less ridiculous than the Ikari Warriors series.

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