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Has anybody had any luck text-hooking PC-98 games? I've tried different combinations of anex86, AGTH, ITH, and NPTH and I just can't get anything to work.

>> No.5226061

>>5226048
Have you tried learning Japanese? Worked for me.

>> No.5226067

>>5226061
Some people here don't have autism/that much free time for such a stupid pursuit.

>> No.5226084

>>5226067
And yet here you are on 4channel.org.

>> No.5226108
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>>5226067
dude hundreds of millions of people on this planet learn at least one second language, so your lazy ass can too.

>> No.5226110

>>5226061
Yes, I have actually. This is much faster though, if I can get it to work.

>> No.5226130

>>5226061
To be fair, text hooking is completely useless if you don't have a minimum grasp of Japanese grammar. Machine translations from Japanese are laughable, so it's only good to check kanji you don't know.

>> No.5226139

>>5226130
And I do. The only part I'm struggling with is the actual hooking part.

>> No.5226157

Get off your lazy ass and learn Jap then.

>> No.5226173

>>5226139
Time to do it like they did in the old days :^)

>> No.5226181

>>5226048
I learned Japanese and I'm not even interested because visual novels are boring as shit.

>> No.5226183

>>5226048
PC-98 mostly use shift-jis but some are custom encoding. Text hookers will only work with the former.
You need a text hooker that can detect shift-jis characters from memory and display them. There are those that wait for Windows API calls for graphics that are probably useless for you.

Did you check this?
http://www.hongfire.com/forum/forum/hentai-lair/hentai-game-discussion/tools-and-tutorials/418327-using-agth-anex86-certain-games-not-getting-text

Alternatively there's FBCR. Detects the font graphics as they're displayed onscreen and converts them to text as long as you prepared a whole font preset for them manually.
It got purged from the author's website but the archive dl link still works with the latest build.
https://web.archive.org/web/20180211230337/http://neko.works/index.php?static=fbcr

Please answer with feedback, OP. Legit interested how it goes and how you did it if you succeeded.

>> No.5226184
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5226184

Don't post games with sluts!
Miko sluts, but still sluts!
SLUTS!

>> No.5226195

>>5226184
I dont know who she is. I want to play it so I see why she is a slut.

>>5226183
I will get back to you in a few minutes on this.

>> No.5226205

巫女 [ご参拝, ありがとうございます]

Shrine maiden: Thank you for visiting the shrine.

You'd have to learn four words to read that. If that's too difficult maybe you should be in a care home or something so you don't hurt yourself.

>> No.5226213

>>5226195
anon, everyone in PC-98 games is a slut, even guys

>> No.5226224
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>>5226183
The first thread didn't help me much. It's one that already came up from googling around beforehand. The best I was able to do with it was get certain special characters and punctuation to show up.

However, the second one looks promising. The only thing is, it seems like I need some kind of font file. Would something like this work, or do I literally need to painstakingly screenshot every single character and kanji and put it in there? I feel like I'd need to know what each of them was to even do that in the first place.

>> No.5226230

Just google it, the information is on Tokugawa and VNDB. There's a special build for Neko Project II (http://www.mediafire.com/download/ptonwq141atis1d/npkth.rar)) that works with Andy's ITH. (or Anex in the few cases it doesn't.)
Textractor might also work? Not sure.

>> No.5226235

>>5226205
The only trouble is Kanji. Gotta love memorizing those shits.

>> No.5226240

>>5226235
The trouble is grammar, kanji is easy. Out of the 2000 kanji you need to know half of those are synonyms and a third are only used in names. The other 500 or so obscure ones you can look up on jisho.org by breaking down by radicals.

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>>5226230
Of course I googled it first. That's exactly what I tried to do, but the problem with ITH is that when trying to update it to version 3.0, it gives me a 404 error. And the version I'm using doesn't work with that Neko Project II build.

If anyone has an already updated version of ITH, that would probably help.

>> No.5226253

>>5226247
Try Andy's version, it's the one mentioned on Tokugawa: https://code.google.com/archive/p/interactive-text-hooker-andys/

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>>5226253
Not exactly an improvement.

>> No.5226274

>>5226265
Ah didn't see that.
Try Textractor then (https://github.com/Artikash/Textractor/releases)), extension of the same engine.
Failing that there's ITHVNR: https://github.com/mireado/ITHVNR/releases

>> No.5226298
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>>5226274
Textractor kind of works. I managed to get AGTH to do this earlier as well. The problem is, the text is wrong. It's either showing completely wrong text, or only the punctuation, or only some parts. It's weird. I guess it could just be a h-code issue. I don't know.

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5226320

>>5226298
I think you will get partial garbage for some games due to PC98 using the same calls for other stuff.
Night Slave on Anex86 is supposed to work well with AGTH (pic related) so you could use that as your basemark to tell if it's working correctly or not but YMMV.

>> No.5226438

Absolute fucking lol at you subhuman EOPs.

The lengths you go to to avoid simply learning Japanese like normal people. You're a sickness that corrupts everything. I'll now enjoy PC98 games less knowing you play them with text hookers.

>> No.5226705

>>5226108
Latin-based. Not some archaic characters, to play 6/10 games which were never localized for a good reason

>> No.5227052

>>5>>5226048
You need to have a custom patched neko project exe. I have everything you need on my PC at home, will upload my dir in a few hours.

>> No.5227232

What's text hooking?

>>5226438
>simply learning Japanese like normal people
:^)

>> No.5227238

>>5227232
>What's text hooking?

Getting the text from games in a copyable form so you can copy it into machine translation program.

>> No.5227239

>>5227238
I see, thank you.
Basically an extremely lazy and sloppy romhack?

>> No.5227247

>>5227238
Is this how Atlus translates their games for foreign markets?

>> No.5227248

>>5227239
No. You use a separate program for it, which you "hook" into a running game's exe. In this case into the PC98 emulator's exe.

>>5227247
I dunno, I don't play translated shit.

>> No.5227254

>>5227248
Wait, you don't insert the "translation" into the rom?

>> No.5227256

>>5227239
Yeah.

>> No.5227283

>>5226067
So not only are you unwilling to put in even the most basic amount of effort, you'll sperg out at people who HAVE put in the effort. Are you on welfare by any chance?

>> No.5227286

>>5227254
No.

>> No.5227330 [DELETED] 

>>5226084
>>5226108
>>5227283


>Just learn a language so you can play lowbrow VNs from the early 90s

Yep, autism.

>> No.5227332 [DELETED] 

>>5226438
>>5226084
>>5226108
>>5227283
>Just learn a language so you can play lowbrow VNs from the early 90s
Yep, autism.

>> No.5227426

>>5227332
You are one lazy cunt mate