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Anonymous Sun Dec 16 11:47:15 2018 No.5224964 [Reply] [Original]

>megadrive couldn't do 3--

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 16 11:55:32 2018 No.5224975 Yes, Virtua Racer exists. Genesis could do 3D because it had a beast of a processor. A thread died for this.

Anonymous Sun Dec 16 12:11:03 2018 No.5224997

>>5224964
The system can do polygons, entirely in software and rather slow.

In this case the track segment is a simple animation, traced from a pre rendered animation. The rings and mines have some pre scaled frames, so no scaling is involved. It uses some clever masking to occlude the objects around curves/over hills.

Sonic 2 used a lot of these pre rendered/traced objects. the corkscrews, the rotating drums and screws from metropolis zone etc.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 16 12:23:37 2018 No.5225008 >implying that's 3D You're not even using a proper example. Virtua Racing is 3D. Luckily the iOS remake exists to prove you wrong about that.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 16 12:23:43 2018 No.5225010 >>5224975 >Virtua Racer

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 16 12:38:18 2018 No.5225041 >>5224964 This is the worst fucking way to start a thread.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 16 12:52:09 2018 No.5225073 >>5224964 Check out Star Cruser, Road Rash, Hard Drivin’, Ranger X, Pebble Beach Golf Links, and the Star Fox home brew for real 3D. Also over lock your genesis and they can actually be pretty playable.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 16 12:56:27 2018 No.5225081 >>5224964 D

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 16 13:08:10 2018 No.5225094 >>5225073 That on the other side can lead to issues when game logic is tied to exact timing. Sound is probably one of the first things to get messed up.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 16 14:08:07 2018 No.5225163 >>5225094 Very few games are negatively affected by overclocking and either way that’s why you install a switch.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 16 14:23:45 2018 No.5225195 >>5224964 b-b-but the megadrive could only do fake 3d in software while the SNES mode7 and super fx chip--

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 16 14:31:18 2018 No.5225212 >>5225163 Like I said, above 12 something MHz and you encounter some hilarious glitches on most games. Games with bank-switching hardware will refuse to work entirely.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 16 14:38:34 2018 No.5225223 File: 87 KB, 1065x791, 1elrnq.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5225041 >replies

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 16 15:03:41 2018 No.5225275 >>5225195 Makes a flat spinning board with polygons so poor you can literally count them. It's just as fake.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 16 15:07:07 2018 No.5225280 File: 14 KB, 480x360, hqdefault.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] There was also the bonus stages from Resq, too bad this game got cancelled. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4sXgFmZ-tM0

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 16 15:09:42 2018 No.5225286 >>5225275 No, polygons are as real as it gets.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 16 15:53:26 2018 No.5225363 >>5224964 Genesis 16-bit Masterrace

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 16 17:23:02 2018 No.5225606 >>5225223 w/o bumping

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 16 17:23:29 2018 No.5225607 https://youtu.be/SwW5y4rrvwk Genesis can also do Mode 7 in software almost as well as the SNES can

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 16 17:26:43 2018 No.5225619 https://youtu.be/rnr3g81nS7U

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 16 17:29:57 2018 No.5225629 >>5224964 Look up a game called Hard Drivin'. it's fully 3D and runs on the Genesis without the use of special co-processors.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 16 17:33:13 2018 No.5225639 >>5225619 >>5225607 https://youtu.be/Tl3gKAobaTE

Anonymous Sun Dec 16 17:38:37 2018 No.5225652

>>5224964
This is what a bait from someone who only plays super famous games and has his body of knowledge from ecelebs, lmao. Everyone here knows everything from LHX Attack Chopper to Virtua Racing, which are all proper real-time 3D games unlike your example.
You have to go back.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 16 17:38:59 2018 No.5225653 >>5224964 It's another Sega fan asking to be validated thread

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 16 18:31:19 2018 No.5225783 >>5224964 this is like saying the doorway transitions in swordquest means the atari could do 3d

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 16 18:36:01 2018 No.5225801 >>5225783 something like road rash would be a much better example of something like this, despite not being true 3d

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 16 19:42:46 2018 No.5225916 Did people find this special stage hard?

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 16 19:54:08 2018 No.5225939 >>5225916 tails would routinely fuck it all up for you

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 16 19:58:17 2018 No.5225949 >>5225916 Way better than those cancerous ones in the first game at least.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 16 20:01:57 2018 No.5225960 >>5225949 You just suck maybe

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 16 20:10:14 2018 No.5225984 >>5225960 It's not hard just tedious.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 16 20:20:21 2018 No.5226030 >>5225607 for fucks sake stop using "mode 7" to mean "three-dimensional plane", Mode 7 is just a graphical mode for background layers for the SNES chip. If you're not talking about the SNES the term is meaningless

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 16 20:24:10 2018 No.5226040 >>5225960 Regardless of that, they're extremely unenjoyable compared to the bonus stages in the other games. Or are you gonna tell me you actually have fun with that garbage?

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 16 20:25:35 2018 No.5226047 >>5226030 That Mode 7 nonsense needs to stop. It's "scanline-based affine transformation"

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 16 20:29:59 2018 No.5226058 >>5224975 >Yes, Virtua Racer exists with a processing chip it did that >>5224997 >The system can do polygons, entirely in software and rather slow. very true. but not at the level of vitua racing like the first poster implied

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 16 20:32:42 2018 No.5226070 >>5226058 nibba SNES library was choke full with games that had custom DSPs, what are you on about

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 16 20:37:26 2018 No.5226083 >>5224964 -good games.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 16 20:44:51 2018 No.5226105 >>5226083 3 good games?

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 16 20:50:38 2018 No.5226127 Literally nobody has ever tried to make this claim.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 16 21:17:22 2018 No.5226212 >>5225939 >>5226040 Desu I liked the Sonic 2 bonus stages decently enough and the first one’s to a certain degree

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 17 07:06:07 2018 No.5227079 >>5224964 >underage couldn't shit po--

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 17 07:16:56 2018 No.5227090 >>5224964 This isn't real 3D, it's a prerendered low-res bitmap at low framerate.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 17 07:35:55 2018 No.5227103 >>5224964 First of all, MegaDrive can do 3d. Some Treasure games, for example, rendered some objects as 3d models, e.g. this crystal https://youtu.be/A9yhsV35gf4?t=8092 . Virtua Racer is fully 3d game.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 17 07:38:09 2018 No.5227105 >>5227090 It isn't that either. It's a way to use layers to appear 3d on the screen. Sprites are pre-rendered, but the console only outputs 2d graphics here.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 17 07:40:17 2018 No.5227108 >>5225939 You can disable Tails entirely if you're playing alone. He was only on by default to showcase his very existence.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 17 07:42:18 2018 No.5227109 >>5227105 You have no fucking idea what you're talking about

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 17 07:45:22 2018 No.5227113 >>5225916 Sonic 2 had the worst special stages in the Genesis games.

Anonymous Mon Dec 17 07:46:28 2018 No.5227114

>>5227109
No, you have no idea. The tunner is not a single movie. It's a number of sprites behaving in a way that makes it look three-dimensional. The sprites are indeed pre-rendered, but there are many of them tiles and switching places rather than one pre-rendered animation of a tunnel.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 17 07:48:55 2018 No.5227117 >>5227114 but it's sourced from a pre-rendered animation done in Softimage Creative Environment

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 17 07:50:24 2018 No.5227124 >>5227114 Retard. Stop talking.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 17 07:50:25 2018 No.5227123 >>5227117 That is correct.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 17 07:51:44 2018 No.5227127 File: 2.85 MB, 312x234, 1363557276031.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5227124 Make me, you ignorant whore.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 17 08:02:06 2018 No.5227146 >>5227127 You will run out of bullshit you know nothing about eventually. Fucking faggot.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 17 08:07:12 2018 No.5227154 >>5227146 At least I know more about 2d graphics than you, spunkstain, so that's a definite one in my favour.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 17 08:08:34 2018 No.5227159 >>5227154 Pff kiddo have a (you) now go get ready for school.

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