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Anonymous Tue Dec 11 13:17:07 2018 No.5213851 [Reply] [Original]

What the fuck was wrong with Sega back then? Why did they talk shit about other companies so much? Did Nintendo ever 'responded' to them in such a manner?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 11 13:19:18 2018 No.5213857 >>5213851 Was Michael Jackson really famous enough back then to have his own game?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 11 13:20:10 2018 No.5213860 File: 36 KB, 500x281, descarga.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 11 13:20:46 2018 No.5213861 It was Kalinske's marketing scheme, or so I have read

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 11 13:21:35 2018 No.5213863 File: 141 KB, 1280x858, b264db3699727fb161620cbd51271d12.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 11 13:22:52 2018 No.5213869 Agreed, brother. How dare they besmirch the hallowed name of our Lord and Saviour Nintendo! Acolytes, pray for divine retribution!

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 11 13:23:25 2018 No.5213873 >>5213863 Enjoy your censored MK3 nintoddlers.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 11 13:23:44 2018 No.5213875 >>5213857 >18+

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 11 13:26:03 2018 No.5213884 File: 43 KB, 426x522, smug guts.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5213873 >giving a shit about western fighting games

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 11 13:30:35 2018 No.5213895 >>5213857 easily

Anonymous Tue Dec 11 13:31:31 2018 No.5213897

>>5213884
Mortal Kombat was an icon back in the day. It set the standard for arcade fighting games and spawned dozens of imitators. It had a huge impact on early 90's pop culture - to the point where boomers were freaking out and having moral panics over it because they thought kids were going to turn into ruthless killers and thugs after being brainwashed by the game. Congress even had hearings over it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Controversies_surrounding_Mortal_Kombat

You may not like the series, but it was THE most important 90's fighting franchise and had the power to move consoles.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 11 13:39:28 2018 No.5213915 File: 164 KB, 550x745, BLAST_PROCESSING.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5213851 >What the fuck was wrong with Sega back then? It's called banter. Grow a thicker skin.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 11 13:42:35 2018 No.5213918 >>5213897 Not to downplay Mortal Kombat but Street Fighter 2 was always more popular and important to videogames.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 11 13:48:33 2018 No.5213928 the best way to promote their system was to make people want to outdo their friends, still happens now with people literally zooming into screenshots to count pixels

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 11 13:51:09 2018 No.5213936 >>5213851 They even shit-talked their own arcade game market: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UC8_VaGaCxg

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 11 13:57:35 2018 No.5213951 >>5213857 >being underage

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 11 14:04:15 2018 No.5213968 >>5213863 >Streetfighter

Anonymous Tue Dec 11 14:10:10 2018 No.5213987

Sega was desperate, either in Japan (developer intimidation) or the US (antitrust lawsuits against nintendo) to get some of nintendo's lunch, so anything went.

Sony was just as desperate but it actually worked out for them so you don't hear about it as much.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 11 14:15:05 2018 No.5214004 >>5213857 Go back to the AOL kids message board son

Anonymous Tue Dec 11 14:16:13 2018 No.5214009

>>5213918
>t Street Fighter 2 was always more popular and important to videogames.
From a worldwide and longterm point of view, yes. But in the US at that particular rime MK was the bigger hit. And yes people bought a Genesis based solely on the censorship. I was one of them. I had a Super Nintendo, found out about the censorship, felt absolutely betrayed, asked for and got a Genesis for my birthday that year. Which turned out to be a good move in the end, as a 2-console idort I got to enjoy stuff like Final Fantasy and Phantasy Star simultaneously.

Anonymous Tue Dec 11 14:43:28 2018 No.5214073

>>5213851
Your problem is that you're treating these companies like they're individual humans with feelings, when they're just corporations trying to make money in any way possible. Sega was doing all the anti-Nintendo ads because it tricks idiots into thinking there's some actual beef when Nintendo was undeniably more popular and successful. It allowed Sega to bootstrap their own popularity and personality by constantly attaching/comparing themselves to Nintendo.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 11 14:44:37 2018 No.5214074 >>5213857 Are you fucking retarded?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 11 15:17:07 2018 No.5214153 I won't lie, that kind of marketing was very fun, and made the console wars era into a very exciting time. Nevertheless, around the middle 90s it started to become tiring and stopped being fun or amusing.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 11 21:49:52 2018 No.5215083 >>5213851 Snowflake detected

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 11 21:56:02 2018 No.5215103 >>5213851 >was wrong nothing, it was a great marketing move from Sega who had been struggling to catch up to Nintendo of course it all became a moot point when Sony jumped into the vidya scene and kicked Sega to death and beat Nintendo to a pulp

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 12 00:02:12 2018 No.5215380 >>5213863 It runs way better on Mega Drive. >>5213851 Remember the turtles ad nintendo ran?

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 12 00:03:21 2018 No.5215382 >>5213857 Yes, and it was a pretty good game on Mega Drive (SMS version sucks)

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 12 04:46:26 2018 No.5215732 >>5215103 Sega kicked themselves to death.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 12 04:51:54 2018 No.5215740 >>5213861 The shit-talking started before Kalinske.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 12 05:24:51 2018 No.5215760 >>5213863 >Will you ever reach the end? What did they mean by this?

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 12 05:27:38 2018 No.5215764 >>5214153 Probably because it became less about playful banter and more about genuine hatred for the consoles you weren't "loyal" to. When everyone knows that you should be playing all consoles to experience their exclusive games.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 12 05:35:08 2018 No.5215771 File: 25 KB, 610x382, nintendo is what genesisnt.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5213851

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 12 05:48:37 2018 No.5215786 File: 1.84 MB, 1960x1270, neogeo.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Neogeo. Bentley of consoles.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 12 06:53:38 2018 No.5215839 >>5215786 Bentley is a tarted up Volkswagen for new money Arabs.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 12 06:56:23 2018 No.5215840 >>5215839 So yes then

Anonymous Wed Dec 12 07:08:28 2018 No.5215853

>>5215764
Exactly, that was the problem. The fun teasing ended up morphing into real hatred and resentment around the middle 90s. Magazines around 1995 or 1996 started publishing really angry reader letters unlike anything ever seen. That was the end of the fun.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 12 07:46:38 2018 No.5215883 >>5213863 Ironically the Megasis version of Turbo was better.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 12 07:51:39 2018 No.5215889 >>5213857 >zoomers

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 12 08:07:24 2018 No.5215904 >>5213851 Because it wotked

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 12 11:33:05 2018 No.5216192 >>5215771 lefty memes

Anonymous Wed Dec 12 11:48:52 2018 No.5216208 [DELETED]

>>5215904
If it worked then they would do the same today. If anything it gave their advertisers publicity by mentioning them.

The only advertising like this that's ever done these days are clear comparison tables, because the public are not dumb enough to be manipulated by smack-talk. That Neo-geo ad is plain ridiculous.

Anonymous Wed Dec 12 11:50:03 2018 No.5216210

>>5215904
If it worked then they would do the same today. If anything it gave their competitors publicity by mentioning them.

The only advertising like this that's ever done these days are clear comparison tables which you regularly see by retail chains, because the public are not dumb enough to be manipulated by smack-talk. That Neo-geo ad is plain ridiculous.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 12 12:20:53 2018 No.5216248 >>5215786 >4-dimensional realism ???

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 12 12:25:41 2018 No.5216257 >>5213936 Damn, Dave's parents are fucking loaded.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 12 12:28:29 2018 No.5216262 >>5215853 I bet James Rolfe had a letter published in one of those after he posted a video of his younger self REEEEEing over Sega's marketing techniques like a GameFAQs Nintendo fanboy

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 12 12:40:33 2018 No.5216290 >>5213857 Underage b&

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 12 13:04:41 2018 No.5216354 >>5215839 That's Audi

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 12 13:14:49 2018 No.5216378 >>5213884 Spotted the underage Street Fighter II is great and while I prefer SF games, everyone preferred MK back then.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 12 13:38:56 2018 No.5216430 >>5216210 It was the 90s attitude etc.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 12 13:48:28 2018 No.5216445 >>5213873 >>5213897 Pssst You mean MK1 and MK2. MK3 on SNES went full blood and gore again.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 12 14:09:16 2018 No.5216478 File: 36 KB, 178x202, Genesis4Genesis.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5213857 Was Genesis really famous enough to have their own system?

Anonymous Wed Dec 12 14:16:03 2018 No.5216493

>>5216445
>You mean MK1 and MK2.

MK2 wasn't censored on SNES and even the creator says the SNES version was better. I guess if you want to go back and play the very first MK instead of the superior sequels the Genesis version is a little better. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=litzOf8YH8E

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 12 14:28:11 2018 No.5216526 >>5216478 Someone remembered :)

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 12 15:08:54 2018 No.5216609 >>5213915 It wasn't "banter", it was a marketing campaign designed to capitalize on how petty and tribal "gamers" are. Console wars have always been driven by corporations tricking retards into identifying with the companies that make their toys.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 12 15:17:22 2018 No.5216623 >>5216478 >SUPERMAN WHERE ARE YOU NOW?!

Anonymous Wed Dec 12 15:22:54 2018 No.5216632

>>5216609
And it worked in spades. Look even now, decades later when any game can be easily played by anyone, we still have idiots trying to start console wars. Endless rehashing of the same bait and the imbecilic notion that we should have loyalty towards corporations.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 12 15:33:01 2018 No.5216651 >>5213851 Nintendo had the console market by the balls in America. Sega needed to play dirty to get attention. And hey, can't argue with the results.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 12 16:24:57 2018 No.5216731 File: 28 KB, 507x363, SegaCollins.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5216526 I'm still waiting for the Sega Phil Collins to become a reality.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 12 17:51:17 2018 No.5216925 >>5213851 >What the fuck was wrong with Sega back then? Why did they talk shit about other companies so much? Did Nintendo ever 'responded' to them in such a manner? It's called "a competitive market".

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 13 07:11:28 2018 No.5218007 >>5213857 You're lucky you aren't old enough to know the answer to that. He mighta diddled you.

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