Videogame Preservation

[Anonymous No.5207534]

What are your thoughts about the preservation of old videogames?

[Anonymous No.5207541]

>>5207534
Fires happen regardless of what you think. Can't keep em in anything that won't get so hot the silicone won't melt. Other than that, go for it.

[Anonymous No.5207568]

Try your best but eventually Time always wins. The best chance for preservation is emulation.

[Anonymous No.5207596]

Having the rom is enough. Hardware will break eventually.

[Anonymous No.5207598]

>>5207596
I was referring to the preservation of the data, though I guess the physical could also apply.

[Anonymous No.5208393]

>>5207534
What's the point? Everything that exist will end.

[Anonymous No.5208403]

>>5207534
It takes time, space and money. Pic related needs to be kept at around 70degress Fahrenheit not colder or hotter, though it will get warm after hours of play, but at that point, you were supposed to be sick of it and turn if off and play hockey or something.

[Anonymous No.5208410]

No one in their right mind is against video game preservation. Unfortunately hoarders and corporate bootlickers often aren't in their right minds.

[Anonymous No.5208412]

>>5207534
Having said that, these games (the cartridge-based ones) will outlast us and probably even our children-if they're properly maintained. For this stuff remember this too, besides overuse there's the rule of use:

>If you don't use it, you lose it. Hardware does not like to sit idle for extended periods, so exercise them besides keeping them warm and clean. Play your stuff, collectors, or else it'll go the way of oxidized Laserdiscs.

[Anonymous No.5208470]

>>5207598
>I was referring to the preservation of the data,
And where you going to put that data, on a spiritual-non-physical-hardware device? Can I have one? It all comes down to hardware, i.e., physical preservation, always. Even to this day the safest way to archive stuff is on tape and the U.S. gov't knows it and private companies know it too. Although it is time consuming and takes a lot of space, but it's more stable than a hard drive in the long run.

[Anonymous No.5208487]

>>5208393
I think you are actually making the exact opposite point that you think you are making here.

[Anonymous No.5208569]

>>5207534
I just focus on getting enjoyment out of the games while I still can until inevitable hardware failure or disc rot or bit rot takes hold. Then emulation will be the route to go.

I have ROMs and ISOs saved, but I don’t actually use them as I only play on actual hardware with actual copies of games. The ROMs and ISOs are just there in case.

All my hardware and games are all doing great still. Just take proper care of them. I have heavy metal CDs and a CD boombox from the 80’s that I have treated like crap and all still play without issue. My metal CDs spent a lot of their life sitting in a hot humid truck, and my boom box sits in a hot humid garage and has saw dust all over it, and no problems to report.

Where as my games and consoles are kept in a temperature and humidity controlled dark room in cabinets and aren’t exposed to dust of anything.

Obviously your mileage will vary. I hear people talk about games from the late 90’s getting disc rot already and even PS2s failing. They claim they took care of their stuff but I have my suspicions.

Game cube games are prone to disc rot due to poor manufacturing, and Dreamcast lasers are finicky. So there are manufacturer faults to consider.

Future generations of kids won’t care about these games anyway so they only need to last as long as we are around. My young cousins and nephews and nieces show no interest in my old games when I offer to let them play them. They just want Fortnite and Minecraft, they just look at old games the way I looked at my gramps old stamps collection.

[Anonymous No.5208580]

>>5208569
Yeah no shit. Kids don't appreciate old stuff. They will when they grow up.

[Anonymous No.5208586]

>>5208569
>Future generations of kids won’t care about these games anyway so they only need to last as long as we are around.
That's sad. Yeah, fuck old games once we're gone, right? History is teh gay rite

[Anonymous No.5208627]

>>5207534
We will all die and in the end none of it matters. Your legacy doesn't live on through the video games you used to play. Hug your family and try to make the world a tiny bit better while you're here.

[Anonymous No.5208631]

>>5208586
Nobody cares about "gaming" history just like how you don't care about Atari 2600, Magnavox history.

[Anonymous No.5208642]

>>5208631
badbait.jpg

[Anonymous No.5208648]

>>5208631
lol retard

[Anonymous No.5208727]

>>5207534
If we're talking actually good games, fine.
If we're talking the autistic hoarding of literally every game ever, then fuck right off.

[Anonymous No.5208730]

>>5208631
I care about Atari 2600, and I owned an Odyssey 2 as a kid, no I didn't grow up in the 70's. I'm a 90's kids. Just cause you're a bumbling retard, doesn't mean when you project it on others is truth. I think it sucks Magnavox isn't as well preserved as atari and it sucks that kids are basically obvious towards history these days.

[Anonymous No.5210003]

>>5207534
I think it's great. Especially when done in a way that violently triggers poor bandwagoners.

>>5207541
>silicone
Get a load of this goof

>>5207596
>Having the rom of processors is enough
I see underage fools are out in full force tonight

[Anonymous No.5210223]

>>5208470
If only they could make it more store more information to make it more viable

[Anonymous No.5211270]

>>5207534
Who in this world or what group do we trust enough for this valuable thing to be preserved for future generations? Where can we ensure there will be funding to maintain such an archive? where in the world shall it be held so that everyone can reap the benefits of this archive? we need to know once we are all gone when the aliens land and uncover this archive at this is the peak video game we have ever achieved on this planet.

[Anonymous No.5211458]

>>5207534
Yes, I am all for preservation of computer games. It is shocking how many companies in the early days did not back-up any of their data, either for archives or simply for business-related purposes.

100% pro-release source code onto the Internet for posterity and backwards compatibility sake.

[Anonymous No.5211472]

Yes.

[Anonymous No.5211542]

>>5211270
Decentralized distribution. The real problem is the copyright trolls taking such archives down. There is big money in entertainment industry and they have the power to lawyer up and/or buy off politicians, so until our copyright laws become less insane it won't happen in a way that isn't susceptible to being removed.

Basically the current system is to fly under the radar until nity takes you down.

[Anonymous No.5211572]

>>5208470
>tape
>reliable
Tape is only good for SHORT TERM storage.
Tape degrades over time. Corporations use it because it is CHEAP and they make multiple redundant backups of data 2-3 times a day.

For long-term storage, the current standard is either:
1) Pressed Blu-Rays in multiple locations.
2) Paper in multiple locations.

[Anonymous No.5211610]

>>5211572
>Tape is only good for SHORT TERM storage.
t. underage anon

>>5211572
>Corporations use it because it is CHEAP
t. underage anon from 1990

>>5211572
>For long-term storage, the current standard is either:
>1) Pressed Blu-Rays in multiple locations.
>2) Paper in multiple locations.
No and no. Blu-Rays are volatile as fuck in comparison to tape.

[Anonymous No.5211635]

>>5211610
Get a load of this actual boomer posting. Go back to sending angry letters to the newspaper, gramps.

[Anonymous No.5211639]

>>5211635
Hahah, I knew you were an underage who didn't know the topic.

[Anonymous No.5211642]

>>5211639
Not the guy you're replying to, autismo. You're old and think insulting children on the internet is a good way to spend your retirement. SAD.

[Anonymous No.5211646]

>>5211635
Can you please just fuck off.

[Anonymous No.5211656]

>>5211642
You start the shit, then call others shitposters. Pottery. Also, lose with some grace some time.

[Anonymous No.5212069]

>>5211270
All we need to do is enact a law that requires all collectors to dump and distribute all their games for free. The law should also require that they give away SDs for free because those are expensive if you're on an allowance. As long as millions of poor kids get stuff for free it will always be preserved because those kind of people are well known to make long term plans and be committed to carrying them out out and totally place high value on free stuff and never throw away their toys when they get tired of them or they're no longer the cool new fad. amirite

[Anonymous No.5212097]

>>5212069
^seething

[Anonymous No.5212273]

>>5212069
Based. The availability of ROMs have made people act amusingly entitled. If you really want something dumped, offer to donate money to help offset the cost of the original cart/disc. Most of these things are simply bought and sold, many times in public websites, and most people who dump things had to pay out of pocket for them.

[Anonymous No.5212702]

>>5212097
>^projecting

[Anonymous No.5212710]

>Preservation

I think it's a load of bullshit that faggots online use to try and justify emulating games for free. Now don't get me wrong Im pro emulation. Im setting up some shit as we speak. I just wish more of you would be honest about it. Because you're not fooling anyone.

[Anonymous No.5212725]

>>5207534
At any and all costs. Like this >>5212069
and I don't care at all about hoarder's rights. If that makes me a communist then so be it.

[Anonymous No.5213071]

>>5207534
I think there are trillions of cellphone games already lost like piss in the rain.

[Anonymous No.5213073]

>>5212710
So the only difference is feeling guilty all the time but still doing it? You sure sound mentally well.

[Anonymous No.5213076]

when does somebody release it already?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CrKayaif4vI

[Anonymous No.5213084]

>>5211542
>Decentralized distribution
Exactly. Combine it with content-addressable global storage like IPFS or Dat and no even slightly popular file will ever go missing on the Internet again, for better or worse.

[Anonymous No.5213095]

>>5212710
For the life of me, I can't understand why people need to "justify" downloading a 20 year old game. Do they really think there's anything immoral about it?

[Anonymous No.5213108]

kek all people here are leaches who want free stuff. Go and buy stuff and release it to the internet .

[Anonymous No.5213121]

>>5212710
>jackass, the post

[Anonymous No.5214081]

>>5213108
>leaches
>release it to the internet

What is your native language?

[Anonymous No.5214216]

>>5214081
He's saying quit complaining and do something about it. Buy the shit and dump it.

[Anonymous No.5214358]

>>5213073

Who said anything about feeling guilty. Just admit what you're doing is technically wrong but ultimately harmless. You don't need to feel bad or make excuses but also don't act surprised when the IP owners say shit and try to come up with some bullshit justification.

[Anonymous No.5214790]

>>5214081
As someone who understood the post perfectly I'd guess his native language is probably English and his dialect is Adult. I guess it's the dialect you're having trouble. Adult English is very different from Underage English.

[Anonymous No.5215413]

>>5207534
99% of the time it means "cancerous hoarding" and "transparently not sharing anything important because muh copyright nobody gives a shit about"

[Anonymous No.5215415]

>>5208569
>and even PS2s failing
this is how I know your post is zoomer LARP

[Anonymous No.5215438]

>>5213095
>Do they really think there's anything immoral about it?
Yes, they do. Because of straight-up real world autism combined being "loyal" to a company combined with always wanting to be a good boy who doesn't break the law. I have met about a dozen of these guys over the years and they all have these things in common

1. huge collection of real hardware
2. will never, ever sell anything they have invested any time in, and only reluctantly sell newer bits of hardware for prices well above the market value
3. will pay well-above market value for video games from a brick and mortar store even if they know they could buy it online for less

If you bring up piracy or emulation to them they will be cordial about it, and they may have even dabbled in it from time to time (to play translations, they will rationalize) but they will always insist it is not for them. If pressed they will explain that although they knew emulation is virtually indistinguishable from the real hardware and is even superior in some aspects they will always go back to it just doesn't "feel right" to them.

tl;dr emulation gives autists the heebie jeebies

addendum: for whatever reason most of these guys really like JRPGs and fighting games, but suck at the latter.

[Anonymous No.5215757]

>>5215438
What in the world is this image's relevance to your post?

[Anonymous No.5216047]

>>5215438
I could tell you were LARPing when you pretended to have met about a dozen people in your life