/vr/ - Retro Games

[Anonymous No.5206573]

>Nieces and nephews come to spend the weekend at my place
>All having a blast, watching movies, eating pizza, wrasslin' in the back yard
>Starts to get dark out, ask if they wanna play some vidja
>They all seem enthusiastic
>They don't have any consoles or a home computer. Just tablets and smartphones
>Put in some classic multiplayer games
>"What is this? Is this like Mario?"
>As the game starts, everyone seems to be having a good time
>Someone touches an enemy and loses a life
>"Uhm... I don't really wanna play this anymore."
>All the rest of them immediately lose interest and want to do something else

I don't understand kids anymore. I feel kind of bad for them, but I can't really put my finger on what happened or why. I'm not gonna try and push them in to something they don't wanna do, but it just feels like they didn't give this enough of a try.

Anyone have an similar experiences? Or advice for sharing my hobby with this kiddos?

[Anonymous No.5206598]

>>5206573
damn kids these days
with their mar-yo and sanic
all i had was a ball in a cup and i was never bored

[Anonymous No.5206607]

Yesterday, my nephew saw pic-related sitting on my shelf and wanted to play it.
Pluged it in, and started playing Ms. Pac-Man. I played one round to show him what to do.
>Let's play a different game.
>"W-wait, the game's not over. Do you want to play?"
>No, let's try another one.
Started up Mappy. He walked against a door for a minute, and a mouse got him.
>What? How was I supposed to know what to do? Different game.
Played Galaga. No interest in that one either.
But then he played Pole Position for like, half an hour.

[Anonymous No.5206612]

>>5206607
>But then he played Pole Position for like, half an hour.
>So watcha doin'?
>Playin' Mappy.
>OH NO YOU AIN'T. YOU'RE GONNA PLAY POOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO--

[Anonymous No.5206635]

>>5206573
>>>/reddit/

[Anonymous No.5206653]

>>5206573
To be fair, taking damage just for TOUCHING an enemy was always a bullshit video game trope.

Like, think about it: you and the enemy are both enemies. Why does the one only damage the other? It should be like antimatter, where you both damage each other, or like real life where you can only hurt someone physically by manually attack them.

[Anonymous No.5206663]

>>5206573
Just have them play some games wherethey compete directly against each other without any computer-controlled opponents that can hurt them, then? There's enough games like that out there.

[Anonymous No.5206964]

Well, to be fair, unless you're giving them arcade games, it kind of is a dick move to expect them to just play and enjoy games with no access to the original carts, cases, and, most importantly, instruction manuals.

Yeah, it sucks that they give up quickly. But retro games and modern games have much different methods of easing noobs into continually attempting to improve.

[Anonymous No.5207037]

Its ADD or mood disorder. You give a kid a phone and it ruins their attention span early on. With an old game you have to at least pay attention long enough to survive. With modern game you barely ever die. The new game devs don't want you to lose much because then you stop playing, and you won't pay for DLC or whatever shit. Today's players are retards.

[Anonymous No.5207047]

>>5206653
This always pissed me off too but it also added challenge and reward to not have fairness and still triumph.

I usually resent today's games even though they have ideas that improve on older games, but also have an undue amount of angst and politically correct ideas.. go figure the industry is largely yups creating or boomers running who capitalise on yups and gen z.

[Ertain !!//mbw6853oG No.5207064]

If the kids want to try playing old games again, then introduce them to something else. Or, if they want to try the same game again, then let them play it again. If they want help, they'll ask for it.

Back in the day, we'd play games sometimes, then quit, and finally come back to them. While it's true we'd play the same game over and over again, we'ld eventually get tired of it.

Just give them a little time, that's all.

[Anonymous No.5207070]

>>5206653
>It should be like antimatter, where you both damage each other
If the enemy died at the same time as the player, would that satisfy your autism? Probably not.

[Anonymous No.5207076]

>>5206573
what was the game?

[Anonymous No.5208421]

>>5207070
>If the enemy died at the same time as the player
That sounds like a rejected Braid level

[Anonymous No.5208434]

>>5206573
>>5207076
Tell us the game already

[Anonymous No.5208458]

>>5206573
>it just feels like they didn't give this enough of a try.
Their brains have been spoiled by smartphone apps, modern vidya, social media, and youtube videos designed to instantly reward them. The slightest hint of failure is too much to deal with these days.
It's not the fault of the kids, they never stood a chance.
Yes I'm the old man yelling at the cloud and idgaf, it's true

[Anonymous No.5208491]

>be me
>have a couple pins and cabs in the basement
>neice and nephew come over who are big nintoddler lovers and play games constantly
>"can we playz ur gamz uncle anon?!?"
>sure let me just turn up the heat, start the games+ let them warm up, etc
>they play each game once sometimes leaving to play another before they even died/played 3 balls
>ok were done
>a-are you sure you don't want to play more? I mean you barely gave any of these a chan-
>nope!

On the bright side my kid whose 4 loves all of them. Guess it's how you raise 'em.

[Anonymous No.5208525]

>>5208434
>>5207076
It was several different games on the SNES.
>DKC
>Mario Kart
>Super Mario All-Stars
>Zombies Ate My Neighbors
Shit like that.

We ended up just making Christmas cookies and candy and doing other stuff. I was just kind of bummed. I thought they'd be into gaming the way that my siblings/cousins were when we were kids. It's fuckin' sad.

[Anonymous No.5208530]

>>5206598
I use to play jacks

[Anonymous No.5208536]

>>5206607
>Did you have fun with Uncle Anon? :)
>yeah!
>Good! So what did you two do together?
>We played a game called Pole Position. The game was WEIRD but Uncle Anon really wanted to play it with me!
*car stops*

[Anonymous No.5208537]

>>5208525
Seriously not being a troll, let them try Sonic 2 split screen. They will actually play that I guarantee it. Then you’ll be “Cool” Uncle Anon and they’ll be eating chili dogs and shit all the time.

[Anonymous No.5208540]

>>5208536
Motherfucker, I was originally wrote out something like "Then we played Pole Position for like, half an hour", but I knew I'd get replies about that.

[Anonymous No.5208542]

>>5206573
The kids in question are pussies. My 8 nieces and nephews (ranging from 4 to 14) will play games from all generations. The 4 year olds favorite game is ToeJam and Earl. How did they all get into retro gaming? They casually observed us fun with the games and we didn't give them a history lesson.

[Anonymous No.5208562]

>>5208536
i lol'd

[Anonymous No.5208593]

>>5208525
Try something like Kirby Super Star. It's bright and it's easy as fuck. The health bar, the ability to fly and having a second player as a helper on screen aids a lot easing a new player into retrogaming mechanics.

[Anonymous No.5208860]

>>5208525
Remember that in your day just the chance to play any sort of "electronic game" was incredible for that reason alone. These are kids who grew up with them being ubiquitous. This is sort of like the equivalent of you as a kid prefering to play outside or make candy instead of watching White Christmas or something.

[Anonymous No.5208884]

>>5208537
That runs a dangerous risk of turning the into a furry for life.

[Anonymous No.5209226]

>>5207064
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YgHNtzxO0y8
also stop reddit spacing, especially when you wrote so little.

[Anonymous No.5209393]

>>5209226
Not him but you look like a fucking 12 year old bitching about that site so much you blame paragraph spacing on it. The obsession people here have with that place confounds me.

[Anonymous No.5209424]

>>5208884
Anything before Sonic Adventure 2 is safe.

[Anonymous No.5209425]

>>5209393
Yeah, you should definitely go back there.

[Anonymous No.5209428]

>>5209425
I've literally never posted there.

You're the one who knows all about it.

[Anonymous No.5209430]

>>5209393
>Three sentences = a paragraph.

Oh ok, is this how bad things are becoming?

[Anonymous No.5209446]

>>5209430
How bad what is becoming?


Making posts with too many spaces for your delicate sensibilities?


Are you going to cry about the boogeyman outsiders from that OTHER WEBSITE

[Anonymous No.5209459]

>>5209446
Fucking kek, that was pure autismo sweet tea. Maybe you should go to another website.

[Anonymous No.5209525]

>>5209459
Why lol? This is so much fun.

[Anonymous No.5209567]

>>5206573

Walk them through the basics and sell them on it retard

Instead of just turning the game on and letting them fumble around, explain the cool things they can expect to do, don't give them literal Super Mario because that game is trash

Kirby is a good start because you don't instantly die, it's kind of easy and a very cool "sandboxy" concept with taking enemy powers and using them in interesting ways, especially Dreamland 3 or Crystal Shards

[Anonymous No.5209576]

>>5208537

>sonic game in split screen

Lol no retard

[Anonymous No.5209584]

>>5209525
If it's fun, why not lol

[Anonymous No.5209709]

>>5209567
When I was young, we didn't need to be "sold" a game, or lectured on how to play. We jumped right in and learned as we went. Furthermore, to shit on SMB (or SMBW) is to out oneself as either an incorrigible casual or contrarian shitposter. I feel genuine pity for your generation and their diminished mental faculties.

[Anonymous No.5209729]

I've noticed that young people have difficulty in mario because they of all the pits and also they are not used to controlling 2 buttons at once, kirby is better but still you can only take 6 hits. Puzzle games could be an option too.

[Anonymous No.5209765]

>>5209709
>Furthermore, to shit on SMB (or SMBW) is to out oneself as either an incorrigible casual or contrarian shitposter
>(or SMBW)
... let's be reasonable here...

[Anonymous No.5209803]

>>5209729
If you're on an emulator, put run on a trigger button; kids get that more easily.

[Anonymous No.5209875]

>>5208542
the only non-retard here

[Anonymous No.5210121]

>>5208525
These kids are gonna complain that their neices/nephews don't know what Roblox, Minecraft or Fortnite is. Don't worry about it.

[Anonymous No.5210126]

>>5209709
If you shat on SMW, it was because you were a SEGA fan boy. No self respecting Mega Drive owner would even acknowledge SMW was good (even though it was). We had to defend Sonic at all costs.

[Anonymous No.5210140]

>>5210126
>tfw I was a SNES/Genesis idort
feel sorry for you poor kids

[Anonymous No.5210149]

>approximately 1996
>kid from school comes over
>he never played games before but is eager to try
>tell him we can play 2 player kirby super star
>can't understand how to move despite repeated attempts
>doesn't want to play anymore
>later gets an n64 and loves it

[Anonymous No.5210197]

>>5209393
>>>/r/eddit
>>>/r/esetera
>>>/v/
Choose wisely

[Anonymous No.5210310]

>>5210197
So to follow your logic, I am sick of hearing people here complain about some other website, so I should go to that place instead? Shit you're stupid.

[Anonymous No.5210315]

My niece of 6 yers old love to play Bomberman 2 on Snes.

[Anonymous No.5210321]

>meet relatives
>check out what games my cousin is playing on his tablet
>some shitty minecraft zombie clone
>opens menu, ad
>closes menu, ad
>literally does anything, an ad shows up

I installed him regular pirated minecraft apk because what the hell, these free games are torturing children

[Anonymous No.5212261]

>>5210149
What an asshole

[Anonymous No.5212293]

>>5210310
It simply seems like you would fit in much better there and have far less interpersonal difficulty with the people who frequent those sites, but I’m just a casual observer in this particular conversation.

[Anonymous No.5212342]

>>5212293
What makes you say that? My whole issue here is that you keep talking about it and won't shut up about the fucking place.

[Anonymous No.5212371]

>>5207037
>>5208458
>kids these days don't like to lose
They like to play multiplayer games and they will lose, you fucking retards. Failing isn't the reason why they don't like old games.

[Anonymous No.5212379]

Isn't it wonderful how despite the harshness of the real world we have a warm and fuzzy place we can all come together to share our comfy hobby and the people here are so friendly and nice because we all have this thing in common that we can share and be friends and mutually support each other and get along and everyone is included, and all points of view are respected, what a lovely place this is.

[Anonymous No.5213569]

>>5206573
Yeah kids have eroded attention spans because of smartphones. A lot have lost the physical capacity to be human

[Anonymous No.5213579]

>>5206573
My nephew see's me as that guy who likes "pixelated games" whenever he comes over and see's my gaming setup.

He tried playing Super Marios Bros on the NES only to drop the controller after the first level and said it was too boring, yet he goes nuts for Madden and Call of Duty despite it being the same shit every year.

[Anonymous No.5213640]

>>5206573
I had similar experiences with young cousins, and this was in the late 90s.

I think for the most part they just saw that I had a huge pile of games, and they wanted to try as many as they could. They weren't really gamer kids, like yours they didn't really grow up with consoles or anything, their idea of having fun was trampolines and playing sports and other active based things cause their parents thought video games were stupid

[Anonymous No.5213676]

>>5209393
>bitching about that site
In this case it's just a complaint on the formatting style, which is called reddit-spacing. It's just how language works, dumbass, when a label sticks it sticks. Although in this case I think the tripfag's paragraphs were long enough to warrant spaces. There's no hard convention.

As for the use of derogatory reddit, it's less about hating the site and more about choosing the most appropriate insult for some brand of stupidity. For various reasons, Reddit has a reputation for being very shallow, conformist, and verbose, with plebian taste, "nerd chic" and a terribly lame sense of humor.

A post with those traits might get labeled reddit. Or someone will try to label a post reddit but fail. In that case it's up to you, the enlightened reader, to tell the difference.

The actual reddit site is large and diverse, of course. But, if you visit you'll almost certainly see those trends I mentioned are far more prevalent than they are on 4channels.

[Anonymous No.5213847]

>>5213676
Well more and more I suspect you people are either paid shills for the site or just straight up bots.

It's already a riddiculous claim that anyone using double spacing is because of that place. But then when anything is said the response is always "go to Reddit!" Even when it makes no sense like asking to stop talking about the site it every post, it's just the same line again. I guess it makes sense they'd be trying to drum up traffic through advertising, but it's still fucking weird.

[Anonymous No.5215084]

>>5213847
It's not really that common and you're a really annoying faggot

[Anonymous No.5215142]

>>5215084
Not that common? All I did was call someone a 12 year old for thinking paragraph breaks come from ribbit and it's resulted in days of you shilling the site.


btw
If they're not paying you, you're a damn chump

[Anonymous No.5215527]

>>5206573
another story for the universe of "shit that never happens"

[Anonymous No.5215559]

>>5206573
>Someone touches an enemy and loses a life
>"Uhm... I don't really wanna play this anymore."

Fucking pathetic, coddled pieces of shit.

[Anonymous No.5215798]

>>5210315
you should teach her how to make a penis explode.

[Anonymous No.5215842]

>>5206573
People people don't like games and some people are pussies. It sounds like the pussy gene is dominant in your family tree. FWIW I have a lot of success with kids of all ages enjoying games at my place. Some of what I think are key factors: I have a lot of people over with multiple setups, so people with different likes and skills can team up an play what they like. I have handhelds and shit like psones with an LCD for autistic losers so they can sit in the corner playing with themselves instead of ruining the party. I let the kids play whatever they want even iff it's"reeee not retro". The best gateway game to retro vidya is SSBB. It's easy and fun enough and once kids see how shit it is compared to the predecessors they open up to older stuff. The exception is RPGs. Aspies play with themselves in the corner. Having more than a couple meme consoles or le retron is is big plus. Many kids have played NES games. Few kids have even seen a G&W let lone played one. And don't forget lots of cheetos and greasy shit so they can really fuck up your controllers.

[Anonymous No.5215956]

Should have given 'em doom.

[Anonymous No.5216042]

>>5215559
Cringe
>>5215842
SSBB is the best of the series, try again.

[Anonymous No.5216049]

>>5216042
The best Smash game is Project M.

[Anonymous No.5216070]

>>5215842
Based pedophile poster

[Anonymous No.5216092]

I don't think it's that they just don't like old games. I think that because they play those mobile games they have short attention spans. But I guess it differs for each kid, like im 13 and have been into retro gaming and modding for quite some time now, but I've always been playing Pc games before that.

[Anonymous No.5216096]

>>5216049
patrician

[Anonymous No.5216102]

>>5215842
>"aspies" are the only kids that don't get molested
really dodged a bulle-

wait, but then why did I still get molested? wrong generation every time

[Anonymous No.5216123]

>be a kid
>go to weird neckbeard uncle's house
>he's always sipping on monster and talking about something called "sega saturn" and "turbographics"
>makes us put our phones down and turns on some pixelated "game" with anime girls jumping up an down
>"uhhh yeah.. I'm gonna go back to playing candy crush now"
>neckbeard uncle is visibly upset.

[Anonymous No.5216181]

>>5216123
this happened to me but with senran kagura
she eventually tried it out but died quickly

[Anonymous No.5216328]

>>5216123
My fucking sides!

[Anonymous No.5217170]

>>5216042
>SSBB
>turbo casual detected

[Anonymous No.5217236]

my nephews enjoyed playing retro vidya with me a few years ago, but now they got addicted to smartphones/tablets and youtubers, the result is that they don't give a damn anymore about my vidya. On the bright side they liked cuphead but that might be a result of youtubers talking about the game. Other modern games I showed to them provoke general uninterest. it's sad but I think they just won't care about games they don't know about through streamers. these kids have lost the ability to enjoy a game by themselves

[Anonymous No.5217326]

>>5208884
Millions of 80's kids made it through without becoming degenerates

[Anonymous No.5217345]

my niece loves retro games. when I discovered this I bought her a buffalo snes con and filled up her school laptop with emulators and roms, but she won't touch them because she thinks it's wrong. bitch, what's wrong is your 7 year old ass constantly breaking gameboys and crying to my sister to buy yet another one, which she does.

[Anonymous No.5217349]

>>5217326
Yeah but it also produced so many furries they have their own conventions now. Do you really want to make more?

[Anonymous No.5217357]

>>5217345
That's kinda cute though and will likely lead to a life long love of weird old hardware which is kinda awesome.

[Anonymous No.5217393]

>>5208860
its would have been like getting a child in 1990 to watch a black and white movie, I would have thought it was shit

[Anonymous No.5217416]

When I was a kid using the school computer was only for special occasions and gaming was something that was done on weekends and a new games would usually only happen a couple of times per year so you got really excited for a new experience so much so that even seeing a demo game system in a store was cause for excitement.
Now the new generation has parents who shove ipads and phones to their kids to shut them up so if they see a new games it like whatever. When I was very young seeing a computer in a persons house was a rare and curios thing. I wont hold it against them, when I was young many adults whined that the kids were spoiled because they played games and especially religious parents had some weird bullshit beliefs that they would spread to others such as thinking games cause children to misbehave. The thing that the kids are missing is that if you achieve something too easily then its no fun.

[Anonymous No.5217510]

>>5209393
Go the fuck back.

[Anonymous No.5217516]

>>5213676
>The actual reddit site is large and diverse, of course
>4channel
Join him.

[Anonymous No.5217542]

>>5217357
I showed her a picture of me playing my nes when I was 10 and she was super interested in all the colleco stuff that was stuffed in the entertainment center in that pic (my dad pretty much bought every colleco accessory there was) and started googling colleco on my sister's phone.

[Anonymous No.5217564]

>>5216049
This.

[Anonymous No.5217574]

>>5217542
That's honestly kinda awesome.

[Anonymous No.5217595]

Kids are pretty fucked desu, my nephews cant sit still for more than 5 mins unless its minecraft related. They get so much shit for xmas they still have unused toys from last year, and half that shit goes missing (pretty sure my brother sells it)

[Anonymous No.5219703]

>>5206573
My sister is 7 years old and doesn't care for video games at all. I truly envy that.

[Anonymous No.5219848]

>>5217510
That image is great. Great explanation.

[Anonymous No.5219962]

>>5206573
The current generation of gamers have been spoiled by tutorials in games, they just expect it at this point, but i'm not saying tutorials are bad. Games from the NES, SNES, and N64 days just threw you in and said good luck, if you died tough shit. We just played the games and figured it out as we played, you have a kid play an NES game today, they're most likely gonna put it down after a few minutes due to not having their hand held and short attention spans.

[Anonymous No.5220000]

>>5217595
>(pretty sure my brother sells it)
based

[Anonymous No.5220084]

>>5219703
Kids don't play video games anymore.

[Anonymous No.5220223]

it's got nothing to do with retro games.


It's attention span.


I played bored games with my nephew and he'd switch game after one round.
Every, single, time.


This is why I make short sentences and paragraphs.


So the kids can keep reading.

[Anonymous No.5220253]

>>5206573
well to be fair older games were hard as fuck. The children are used to easier games

[Anonymous No.5220276]

>>5220000
Not really he just spends it on his retro collection that he hoards, never lets his kids touch and never has time to play with

[Anonymous No.5220519]

>>5220223
I'm guessing this, plus a lack of graphical appeal. Kids will compare retro games to all manner of other computer graphics with much higher fidelity, colors, and animation. Sure the aesthetics on the old games might be better but kids aren't art critics they just know what excites them.

[Anonymous No.5220524]

>>5217516
And I thought the irony was too fucking obvious to be funny. I guess you're more retarded than I thought.

[Anonymous No.5220657]

>>5217510
>complain that someone won't shut the fuck about that site
>you should go to Reddit lol!!
>every time

I hope they're paying you well you spineless shill

[Anonymous No.5220726]

>>5209709
>When I was young, we didn't need to be "sold" a game, or lectured on how to play.
Sounds like you were poor and didn't have a lot of choices.

[Anonymous No.5221006]

>>5206573
You can't get them into retro right off. I broke my little in-laws in through tangential stuff like Broforce.

[Anonymous No.5221020]

This thread is pathetic.
Not everyone has the same expectations and experiences as you do. If you try to convince someone to enjoy the thing you like they're going to have greater expectations than if they found it themselves, and a greater disinterest when it doesn't match it.

[Anonymous No.5221031]

>>5221020
Git gud

[Anonymous No.5222947]

>>5216181
Dude really?