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5191250 No.5191250 [Reply] [Original]

Does All Stars have the definitive versions of 1,3 and World?

>> No.5191252

They screwed up 1, otherwise it's fine

>> No.5191261
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5191261

>definitive version

>> No.5191263

>>5191250
nah, maybe 2, but the others all have worse art style and music, and the block physics are fucked in 1 (there's a rom hack that fixes this though)

>> No.5191264

>>5191250
people say that the jumps are different.

>> No.5191267
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5191267

>broken physics
>worse music
>uglier, cluttered graphics

>> No.5191303

>>5191261
Now that's just being a nit picking autist.

>> No.5191307

Who gives a fuck just play the damn games.

>> No.5191321

>>5191250
>not how the developers intended

>> No.5191483

>>5191261
>>5191267
>cluttered
>soulless
>generic
NESfags are fucking delusional. Kek.

>> No.5191489

>>5191261
I agree with all of these except that the underworld levels of SMB1 are clearly some sort of stone/brick walled dungeon or cave, and not meant to represent the interior of a pipe.

>> No.5191491

>>5191483
This. All stars was the shit yo!

>> No.5191761

>>5191261
I feel like the lego blocks really fit the weird dream world aesthetic.

>> No.5192187

>>5191261
aesthetic nitpicks aside the characters of SMAS "pop" just fine against the backgrounds and are defined perfectly well, no idea what the hell you're complaining about that for

"generic and soulless" are pretty arbitrary and lame complaints too... has it occurred to you that the "mario style cloud" in smb3 could be considered a lazy recycle by a dev who don't give a shit

i agree the lego blocks are a total mystery but it's subcon an actual dream world

>> No.5192403

SMB all stars plus world is a great package and only delusional grandpas will argue otherwise. There are some what different jump physics but shit like janky hitboxes in 1 are fixed. The save system on each game is also a plus.

>> No.5192460

I don't mind the graphics of the remade 1 and lost levels. However, the jump bug ruins those games, though there is a patch that fixes that. I prefer the original 2 and 3 over the all stars versions, both music and graphics wise. I like the new Luigi sprites in all stars.

>> No.5192478

>>5192403
I enjoyed All Stars a lot when I was a kid I don't have a problem with it but most of the criticism in the thread is on point.

>>5191303
It's probably nitpicking autists that made the Super Mario Brothers games so good in the first place. The problem is more the cherry-picking. The brown caves are objectively lazy from a theming perspective compared to the NES version. The airships have the same problem, where each one has a color in the NES version but in the SMAS version they are all just brown wood. But the game as a whole isn't as bad as that. There are plenty of shots you could take to make the SMAS version look better.

>> No.5192486

>>5191250
>the osts sound like shit
>mario isn't wearing red and black on Mario 3

>> No.5192492

>>5191267
> text says one thing and pics says another
what is anon trying to convey?

>> No.5192498
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>>5191250
SMB1 was kind of screwed up and I never liked how it looked in all stars
SMB2 is just fine
SMA4 is the best version of Mario 3
World is slightly better in all stars + world

>> No.5192580

>>5191267
I prefer the colors of the SNES version, but it's weaker otherwise.

>>5191303
>>5191483
>>5192187
>blah blah, muh autism
it's honestly weird to me that anybody would prefer the remakes's graphics, they're not the worst, they're not even really bad mostly, but the games nailed it the first time around, and the stuff that looks totally different is not an improvement.

now, the Kirby's Adventure remake image, that thing is autism. anybody have it handy?

>> No.5192776

the all stars versions are all better than the NES :)

>> No.5192894

>>5191261
That's cool and all but right is better.

>> No.5192964

>>5191250
I think the version of World in all stars is missing a background layer so wavy water effects do not work.

>> No.5192978

>>5192964
Bullshit. Shut up.

>> No.5193045

>>5192978
Only like one level had that wavy effect so it's not like anything major.
The one with the Torpedo Teds I think.

>> No.5193050

>>5191250
Yes.

Ignore >>5191261

>> No.5193278

>>5191250
Absolutely not, quite the opposite

>> No.5193659
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>> No.5193674

>>5191250
Definitive versions of the NES games? Definitely not 1, but 3 works fine. The save feature is a nice addition too.

>>5191261
You're just being a bitch.

>> No.5193692

>>5192486
>>mario isn't wearing red and black on Mario 3
That was one of the few actual improvements

>> No.5193701

>>5191261
the only one i agree with is the first. with the mario 3 caves, you could just as well say the originals lacked detail or depth and looked more like space than a cave. especially with the moon-esque unfitting ice tiles in the first example. the bigger clouds in mario 3 help separate the lower, main part of the level and the upper part and make the background feel more layered instead of just a bunch of cyan like the original. the 1-2 criticism is just retarded. it's obviously meant to be a general underground area, you only travel there through a pipe

>> No.5193772
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5193772

>just fuck my shit up

>> No.5193781

>>5193772
i'm ok with SMB1 but the rest can fuck off

>> No.5193789

>>5193772
>>5193659
>>5191261
did the allstars artists us mspaint?

>> No.5193791

>>5193772
They both look fine.

>> No.5193793

>>5193772
Why is the sky purple in SMB1?

>> No.5193796

>>5193772
what am i supposed to be noticing here? other than that mario 1 all-stars makes nes 1-3 look ugly as shit lel

>> No.5193803

>>5191483
Same shit happens when we discuss Kirby’s Adventure or Majoras Mask. These people are cancer. Simply having a pic related doesn’t make your point more right >>5191489

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>>5191261

Wow. I think you're right. All Stars looks like DOS shovelware.

Anyone up for a game of Skunny?

>> No.5193829

Bluepilled: All-Stars versions look better

Neutralpilled: Originals look better

Redpilled: Both look like shit - retro Mario games almost universally look awful

>> No.5193836

>>5193829
t. Sunshine/Galaxy/Odyssey babby

>> No.5194802

>>5193659
All the years I felt something was off with the SMB3AS Mario sprite but could never put my finger on it... and it just so happens to be his fingers and hands.

>> No.5194823

>>5191261
>no backdrop shadows on sm3 platforms
Wew what a shitfest. Never played it but wow. Nintendo is 1000% better when limited. Most artists are, but here's the proof.

>> No.5194837
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>>5191250
The plants in All Stars say "SEX" if you turn your head 90 degrees

>> No.5194869

>>5194823
that would've looked awful with the deeper background elements

>> No.5194874

>>5194869
Dude, I dont care that they had to compromise on aesthetics because they already fucked up the aesthetics too much. Do you understand how mindless you are?

>> No.5194884

>>5194874
apparently not having blaring cyan absolutely everywhere is fucking up muh aesthetic. how mindless of me

>> No.5194902

>>5194884
SMAS is better-looking and the gameplay difference in SM1 is inconsequential for regular players (who will be playing SM3 ten times as much anyway if they're unretarded), so just ignore them.

>> No.5194903

>>5194902
>SMAS is better-looking
You're a fucking retard.

>> No.5194937

>>5194903
it is lol, especially in regard to smb1. the nes version looks incredibly amateurish. just look at that 1-3 comparison that other anon posted. the detail on the platforms is literally just a black squiggle. meanwhile everyone itt is crying at smas for having the gall to add some depth and texture to things

>> No.5195049
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>>5191761
Those are quite obviously Nintendo's own N&B Blocks.

>> No.5195124

>>5194902
jfc, opinion invalidated three or four times in one sentence

>> No.5195139

>>5194837
Ajajajajajaja panocha

>> No.5195741

>>5195049
One of the levels in Super Mario Land 2 is completely made up of those blocks, even having the N&B logo in a couple spots.