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[Anonymous No.5191227]

How do you pronounce polygonal?
like
paul-e-gon-ul
or
puh-lig-uh-nul

[Anonymous No.5191231]

>>5191227
Pal-E-gahn-ul
Y'all

[Anonymous No.5191237]

>>5191227
Paul-e-gon-ul. Anyways, wasnt that picture proven to be deceptive? It clearly has alot of bumpmapping just by the looks of it and in motion the differences may be apparent

[Anonymous No.5191238]

Poe
Lidge
Own
Al

[Anonymous No.5191239]

>>5191237
>Anyways, wasnt that picture proven to be deceptive? It clearly has alot of bumpmapping just by the looks of it and in motion the differences may be apparent
OP here. It's deceptive because they're taking the third model and just adding or subtracting polygons to it. The image doesn't account for artistry or the ability to use polygons well. I just used it because it's kind of related to the question and it's guaranteed replies around here.

[Anonymous No.5191240]

It's the 2nd one. Usually when there's a Y in the middle of a word it won't have the E sound, unless it's a "poly" type word that can exist with the prefix, like "polyunsaturated."

[Anonymous No.5191247]

>>5191240
without* the prefix, and I mean the E sound like in "free"

I need to go to bed now I think.

[Anonymous No.5191248]

>>5191240
This is what I always assumed and how I've always pronounced it but everyone I've ever heard use the word says it the other way.

[Anonymous No.5191279]

>>5191248
It’s a word that doesn’t have much use outside the realm of graphic design, so it could be one of those cases where even scholars wouldn’t necessarily correct you either way.

[Anonymous No.5191281]

>>5191227
That's such a retarded image it always makes me cringe a little.

[Anonymous No.5191282]

>>5191279
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/polygonal#other-words

Hear it for yourself

Everyone else is WRONG, WRONG, WRONG

[Anonymous No.5191285]

>>5191282
based

[Anonymous No.5191294]

>>5191282
yeah, if you just basically read enough and listen to enough discourse, it’s hard to see those kinds of word any other way, although I understand how it could seem the other way. It just doesn’t work that well with the long E sound once you start agglutinating adjectival/adverbial endings to it. I know that sounds like a haughty statement but I don’t mean it that way

[popeye No.5191298]

>>5191227
Puh-li-gun-nul. Has a better sounding than Pau-ly-gone-ul.

Do you pronounce "Ocarina" with an "Oh" or an "Aw?"

[Anonymous No.5191301]

>>5191237
>>5191239

[Anonymous No.5191313]

>>5191298
It’s Ock-a-REE-na, like Doc Ock. Unfortunately Nintendo chose to katakanize it with オ which probably added to the general pool of misinformation.

[Anonymous No.5191326]

>>5191227
po-ly-go-naall

[Anonymous No.5191339]

>>5191301
I like how this image thinks it is disproving diminishing returns only for its own example at the bottom to show barely any improvement from 20000 compared to 200 and 2000 other than a slight impression of bump mapping.

[Anonymous No.5191412]

>>5191227
sness

[Anonymous No.5191426]

>>5191227
Ur
A
Du
Mb
Fa
Ggot

[Anonymous No.5191427]

>>5191237
Video games today don't look much better than video games in 2006, so clearly no, its not deceptive.

[Anonymous No.5191440]

>>5191313
That's the normal way of spelling English words in katakana
if it were written アカリナ that would imply that the English word is pronounced Ack-a-REE-na, with an A sound like in the word "act"
For example, "Pocket Monster" is written ポケットモンスター, as パケットモンスター would make it "Packet Monster"

[Anonymous No.5191575]

>>5191426
That's a weird way to pronounce it anon
What are you, a dumb faggot?

[Anonymous No.5191626]

>>5191227
>It's another episode of English language being retarded
Any language where you aren't sure how to read properly things upon looking on the text is shit-tier by default

[Anonymous No.5191680]

>>5191427
If you had said 2010 that would have been more appropriate. Even so, PS3 and 360 held us back for quite some time.

[Anonymous No.5191691]

>>5191313
>It’s Ock-a-REE-na, like Doc Ock.
>Nintendo chose to katakanize it with オ which probably added to the general pool of misinformation.
>katakanize
>>5191440
>That's the normal way of spelling English words in katakana

Ocarina is an ITALIAN word you school rejects. The Japanese transliteration is not only fine, it is on fucking point.

[Anonymous No.5191746]

>>5191227
>paul
nah
>puh
nah
Pol, as in "politics"
Polly Gone al/el/ul

[Anonymous No.5191748]

>>5191626
excellent post
just what you'd expect from a bastard language created by inbred retards

[Anonymous No.5191797]

>>5191227
It's paul-E-dangerously

[Anonymous No.5191819]

>>5191339
to be honest the flat shading lighting model used i deceptive in its own right, in the top row the 3 to the right would look identical on a smooth shaded lighting model without the need for the extra polygons.

Polygons are performance killers though and most games heavily limit them on screen. But during the modeling phase they create ultra high detail models using sculpting tools like z-brush and then they render that extra detail out as textures, bump/normal/parallax/displacement mapping. Then they reduce down the model polycount as much as they can without noticeably losing detail.

[Anonymous No.5191897]

>>5191797
ding-dong diddly based

[Anonymous No.5191909]

>>5191440
This is bait, right? You just can't be this fucking stupid for real

[Anonymous No.5191995]

>>5191440
>>5191691
>it’s a “weebs swing their dicks around about who understands Japanese better” episode

I can guarantee you Nintendo wasn’t going for an authentic transliteration of the Italian pronunciation. Source: Japs are rubes, and the vast majority of their loanwords are from English, because their cultural boner for us is 10x harder than ours is for them. The Pocket Monsters example just makes my argument better, as it illustrates how they can’t even effectively choose which syllable makes for the better phoneme in their *own* writing system.

If you criticize the word “katakanize” without accepting its linguistic efficacy, you’re a closed-minded retard.

[Anonymous No.5192110]

>>5191227
That's either one of the most purposefully misleading or one of the absolute stupidest images ever. The fourth slot should be 10 characters at 6000, not one. Returns only diminish when used poorly.

Also anyone confused by the pronunciation is fucking retarded.

[Anonymous No.5192118]

>>5191995
> Pocket Monsters example just makes my argument better, as it illustrates how they can’t even effectively choose which syllable makes for the better phoneme in their *own* writing system.

Not him but that happens all the time translating languages with significantly different alphabets or structures. In general I think I agree with you though, "katakanizing" something is a mouthful to say but makes sense.

[Anonymous No.5193305]

>>5191440
I suppose if you were some sort of weird ass redneck you might pronounce it "packet manster"

[Anonymous No.5193326]

>>5192110
>Also anyone confused by the pronunciation is fucking retarded.
>t. pronounces it paul-e-gon-ul

[Anonymous No.5193559]

>>5191313
>Nintendo invented the word ocarina

[Anonymous No.5193787]

You pronounce it: "kwads"

[Anonymous No.5193813]

po-ly-go-nal

[Anonymous No.5193821]

πο-λύ-γω-νο

Take this to /lit/.

[Anonymous No.5195104]

English, German and French really are retarded languages. Most of the time, pronunciation is up for interpretation.

If you spoke Spanish or Japanese like me, this wouldn't be a problem at all.

[Anonymous No.5195165]

>>5193326
>t. native English speaker

[Anonymous No.5195167]

>>5195104
... but German pronounciation is pretty much what it's written. It's French and English that are trying to up each other who's gonna have more retarded pronounciation and reading rules. Apparently it never occured to either to make things sensible, rather than retarded in such crucial tool as a fucking language they use.

[Anonymous No.5195213]

>>5191339
Diminishing returns are a thing, but the OP makes it seem like there's no point whatsoever in increasing the polygon count.

[Anonymous No.5195340]

>>5191227

pə-ˈli-gə-nᵊl aka the second one.

Literally what is a dictionary and how does it work.

[Anonymous No.5195348]

>>5195104
If I spoke Spanish or Japanese like you I'd speak Japanese as well as I speak Njerep

[Anonymous No.5195368]

>>5191412
See-guh

[Anonymous No.5195430]

'polig'onal
This is how we butcher it in Norwegian

[Anonymous No.5195462]

>>5191227
Porygonal

[Anonymous No.5195515]

The real problem with high definition is the cost in manpower.

A modeler can do 10 rigs in low poly, but you need multiple modelers to create a face with microhairs and anatomically correct skin pores.

[Anonymous No.5195796]

>>5195368
so gay

[Anonymous No.5196135]

>>5191227
Yes.
As in sometimes one, sometimes the other. Never consistently.

[Anonymous No.5196151]

clit - oar - iss

[Anonymous No.5196164]

>>5191227

Po Lig Anal

[Anonymous No.5196298]

>>5191227
>This image.
It will go until we replicate the entire laws of physics including every single quantum physics laws known and unknown.
People are trying to create Matrix, not a videogame.

[Anonymous No.5196329]

>>5191227
The first one

Had no idea that people said otherwise

[Anonymous No.5196529]

Paw-li-guh-nal

[Anonymous No.5196542]

>>5191680
I'm thinking of select examples. STALKER actually looks better than Fallout 4. Medieval 2 Total War looks pretty much just as good as Warhammer 2 Total War, especially at the distance you play it at.

No games today don't literally look the same as those in the mid 2000s, but diminishing returns is well under way for at least a decade or more.

[Anonymous No.5197320]

>>5196164
Polly gone anal

[Anonymous No.5197445]

"Polygon" is phonetic (or at least "paul-e-gon") so why wouldn't the adjective form follow the same pronunciation?

[Anonymous No.5197448]

>>5191339
it literally states in the picture that he just haphazardly threw some extra details on there. if they were put to better use, it would look better you fucking nigger