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From the absolute trash littering their home computers to the more competent attempts of companies like Core, generally speaking this country only seemed capable of producing mediocre games or at best games teetering on the lower and of average. They seem really good at programming and pushing systems to their absolute limit like in pic related and tons of computer demos, but they seem to fundamentally misunderstand what it is that makes games fun.

>> No.5185496

>>5185492
>pic related
Whoops I was planning on posting this pic of Sonic R.

>> No.5185498
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5185498

>>5185496
shit

>> No.5185520

>Europe
>country
This isn't talking about retro games, this is just /int/ shitposting.

>> No.5185557

>>5185520
What do you call it, a region?

>> No.5185564

>>5185492
>what is Grand Theft Auto
>what is Gianna Sisters
>what is Goldeneye
>what is Donkey Kong Country
>what is Elite
Yeah that’s about it pretty much

>> No.5185586
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>> No.5185786

>>5185557
Nation state

>> No.5185873

They invented and sell large quantities of farming simulator
Thats all you need to know

>> No.5185889

>>5185564
>what is rayman and tetris?

>> No.5185905

>>5185492
But Richard Garriott is ENGLISH and literally one of the best game designers of all time.

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5186000

>>5185492

>> No.5186079
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5186079

That's just like, your opinion, man.

>> No.5186083
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5186083

>>5185873
>invented

>> No.5186193

>>5185786
You might want to read this before spouting any more bullshit
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nation_state
Europe is continent, EU is a supranational political and economic union.

>> No.5186257
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5186257

>spawned a whole new genre

>first game to come up with the technique to use 3D models in 2D pre-rendered backgrounds
>technique which then influenced the entire indstury up until the PS2 era, think of how even games like Final Fantasy VII or Ocarina Of Time used it etc

>one French guy

>> No.5186318

>>5186257
So in another words, it was yet another euro tech demo?

>> No.5186398

>>5186318
You missed the "spawned a whole new genre" part

>> No.5186446

>>5186398
Dodging the point that it isn’t a good game.

>> No.5188139

>>5186446
Shitposting, because you are fishing for easy (You)s, isn't a good game either.

>> No.5188145

>>5186079
I'm still mad Settlers 1 & 2 were build around hexes and not squares. It would make road-laying so much easier...

>> No.5188512

>>5185786
I can hear your sweating fat ass from reading this post, ameriburger.

>> No.5188937

>>5186257
what I'm looking at?

>> No.5189056

>>5188937
Some trash.

>> No.5189309

>>5188937
Alone in the Dark.

>> No.5189313

>>5185492
They are bad (for you) because nintendo isn’t there, otherwise they would’ve good and praised by the zelda and metroid lovers in here

>> No.5189349

>>5185492
Cool /v/tard, /int/tard thread

>> No.5189662

>>5189349
>>5189313
Why don't you fucks try actually replying to the OP proper instead of screeching "/v/!!!!! /int/!!!!! AMERIFAT!!!!"

>> No.5189676

>>5185492
Anothe World
Flashback
The Chaos Engine
Cannon Fodder
Lemmings
Populous
Rise of the Robots
Jimmy White’s Whirlwind Snooker
Syndicate
>checkmate yanks

>> No.5189691

>>5189662
>HURR WHY ARENT YOU RESPONDING TO MY BAIT

>> No.5189704

>>5185492
What i've noticed when playing European games, is that they are usually very well made when it comes to graphics, sounds and presentation, but the gameplay just isn't there, it feels "off". Like, they were made by talented people that obviously put a lot of effort on developing their games, but seemed to lack the knowledge of what makes a game "fun", or maybe they just didn't think that this was important.

>> No.5189717

>>5189676
>Rise of the Robots
Anon...

>> No.5189720

Why would you post this on /vr/?

Team 17, Naughty Dog, Gremlin, DMA Design, Bullfrog, Adeline Software International... so many great Euro devs. What are you talking about?

>> No.5189723

>>5189720
Apologies about Naughty Dog - replace that with Rare.

>> No.5189876

>>5186079
3D was a mistake. So many sims and strategies from Germany went to shit once they've left isometric

>> No.5189884

When the OP is starting the thread by not knowing the difference between a continent and a country, you know we're in for a winner.

>> No.5190004

>>5185564

>> What is Gianna sisters
>> What is grasping at straws

>> No.5190009
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Idk op. Pic related is pritty gud. Definitely above average. It's an 8/10 for sure.
t. burger boomer

>> No.5190106

Europe was just a shitty place when it came to games back in the day. 5/6 speed games,, my fuck. Eurofags are so butt hurt about it that they still shit post here about how they ALL modded their consoles and played import games for 60hz.

>> No.5190112

>>5190106
Euros played games at superior 70Hz.

>> No.5192170

>>5185492
crysis is decent but far cry has overshadowed it completely and i semi-ironically love classic tomb raider

i'm a euro myself but i agree we largely have no idea what we're doing and it saddens me

>> No.5192171

>>5192170
would like to add that 80s/early 90s stuff like another world and captain/commander blood has a large place in my heart as well, with atmosphere no us/jap games have really tapped into in the same way

>> No.5192193

>what is wipE'out"

>> No.5192194

>>5185492
>europe
>country

mutt education

>> No.5192542

>>5190106
Games made in Europe were normal speed in Europe, dumbo.

>> No.5192571

>>5185492
>EU flag
>really good at programming
>reall good at pushing systems to their absolute limit

well, i work for a macroregional EU program (which is good and useful) and i passed out from exhaustion in an austrian castle at a EU party before, so both checks out.

>> No.5192608

>>5189704
Same here. It always felt like they got bogged down on the technical side of things and kept pushing for more complexity and "depth" with no regard for whether or not any of it was enjoyable or even made sense.

>> No.5193538

>>5185492
Dont know about Europe but Germans are unable to separate work from play which is how they came up with Gothic

>> No.5193546

>>5185564
>what are a handful of overrated games spread out over 20 years
>>5189676
>Rise of the Robots
>grasping at this many straws
>>5189720
>>5189723
Congrats for listing the only passable Euro devs.

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5193547

Well, at least Norway somehow managed to make the best P&C ever.

>> No.5193748

>>5192542

>>Thinks all genesis games were made in europe

>> No.5193751
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5193751

um, no sweety
europe generally sucked because noone was going to waste their lives running a software gaming company in those days. that took epic america/jap retardation to do.

>> No.5193767

Europe will never make good games. Never ever when they're getting swamped with rapefugees. Rapefugees which by the way happen to be durka durka goat fuckers who hate vidya. Enjoy your sharia.

>> No.5193794

>>5193546
>such a sperg he can’t parse sarcasm

>> No.5193806

>>5193547
This.

>> No.5194062

>>5193751

Sour grapes, the post

>> No.5194143

>>5194062
>Factual economic data
>Sour grapes
Shit anon, it's like you never realised the chief reason why there was almost nothing aside "indie" dev in all of Europe was the fact nobody wanted to invest in that branch at all and the existing devs were predominately (but not exclusively) hobbists. All while Amerifat in the same time pumped money in that, because Amerifat.

>> No.5194183

>>5194143
Perhaps it had something to do with the fact that European laws cuck citizens so hard that they don't want to/don't have the money to set up companies, while Americans have better opportunities when it comes to starting businesses. Just think of how many of the biggest companies in the world are based in America as opposed to Europe.

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5194221

>>5194183
2/10, made me post gif

>> No.5194270

>>5193538
yikes

>> No.5194290

>>5194221
He's correct, the government taxes entrepreneurs out the ass.

>> No.5194293

>this country

Do you fuckers not have schools in the USA?

>> No.5194295

>>5189676
Call of Duty DLC
>checkmate europoors

>> No.5194316

yall laughing about us yuros when the yuro scene was and is perfectly fine and huge, and the big question mark is actually south america

>> No.5194331

>>5185492
Where I live we have state capitalism and 3M people, which means that big companies don't exist, and it's more profitable for companies to research technology instead of making games because of the state research fund.
Compare that to the industry in USA and 100x more people and you can easily see the reason.

>> No.5194343

>>5194293
they really don't
also trying to convince an American that Europe consists of many different countries with different ruling structures and culture
is like convincing an ape to not eat it's own shit

>> No.5194402

>>5194343
Everyone fucking knows that retard, I just didn’t know what to call the entire landmass itself since I’ve never had to before.

>> No.5194413

>>5194290
Are you at least semi-aware that (a) we are talking /vr/ here, predominately 80s and (b) you have no clue how taxation works at all and (c) treat Europe as a country, befitting a moron

>> No.5194414

>>5194402
>I never had to use word "continent"
Are you retarded, retarded or retarded? Mutt education at its fucking finest

>> No.5194426

>>5194414
No sweetie your backwater *continent* is just so irrelevant that up until now I’ve never had to refer to it in this manner.

>> No.5194431

>>5194426
I can't tell if this is trolling or not.

>> No.5194452

>>5194431
Nobody ever talks about Europe here.

>> No.5194465

>>5194431
The funny thing about threads like this is that you can have both: there are actual retards with no idea what they are even talking about and still trying to bait anyway.

>>5194452
... and?

>> No.5194472

>>5194465
Stay mad. It’s obvious you’ve only latched onto that one mistake in the OP to avoid the fact that Europe has always been shit at making good games.

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5194473

>>5194472
Whatever you say, mutt

>> No.5194507

>>5194473
What am I projecting? Now you’re the one using words wrong.

>> No.5194515

Japan: pink gayness
USA: gritty brownness
Britain: happy medium which everyone knows is best

>> No.5194524

>>5194515
>Britain: gritty gayness
>Britain: pink brownness

can confirm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R9oZaP-my5E

>> No.5194537

>>5194515
jp: pedos
us: psychos
eu: pedo psychos

>> No.5195325

>>5193748
The thread is about European games.

>> No.5195328

Because good Euro games aren't considered Euro games. They're just games.

>> No.5196243

>>5194143

Butthurt, the post

>> No.5196245

>>5195325

Yes it is, anon. Your games sucked. All of them

>> No.5196259

Because most European governments subsidize game development, meaning that funding is less on merit, design and appeal and more about waiting for your place in line to receive government gibs.
Thanks socialism.

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5196262

>>5188145
WTF, that's like one of the biggest appeal of the game.

Also pic related for building roads.

>> No.5196714

>>5196245
>he hasn't played The Ultimate Tapan Kaikki

>> No.5196743

>>5196262
Roads can be build only on three axis. You literally can't build them straight if you want go up or down. This annoys me to no end, especially once buildings start to get dense.
Having all 4 axis (from square grid instead of hex) would be great

>> No.5196974

>>5196743
>Roads can be build only on three axis.
there is an intersection with four directions in the pic of >>5196262.