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How do you guys feel about rom hacks of retro games?

>> No.5183653

Fine if done well, but they're almost never done well. Too many romhackers have a boner for making their projects as difficult as they can possibly make them.

>> No.5183660

They're good if done well, some can even be better than the vanilla game, like Star Road.

>> No.5183664

>>5183651
I'd say attention to detail is a crucial factor in a rom hack's quality.
And the legibility of Op's title graphic tells you all you need to know about that game's attention to detail.

>> No.5183669

The top 0.5% of them are spectacular, many times seeming like legitimate unreleased sequels. The overwhelming majority are straight trash, like at least 50% of hacks are just skinhead Super Mario Bros or something.

>> No.5183671

>>5183669
When you go download playermade mods for anything 99% of them are going to be garbage

>> No.5183681

I really like OPs hack despite its difficulty

>> No.5183731

does Ocarina have rom hacks?

>> No.5183740

>>5183671
This. A lot of these guys do them more for a challenge to themselves(or for epic lulz) more than trying to make something of actualy quality.

>>5183731
I know of at least one but I can't remember the name. Never played it, looks alright I guess.

>> No.5183748

>>5183740
>>5183731
Actually, the one I was thinking of was a massive hack. I also just remembered 3 hacks that each just change Link into Mario, Waluigi and Sonic(who does go fast).

>> No.5183751

>>5183748
fuck you in the ass

>> No.5183764

>>5183669

Nailed it. The idea of romhacks is great, the execution is almost always a let down.

>> No.5183765
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>>5183751
Calm down and play some golf

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>>5183651
How do you feel about me roming my dick into your mom's hack?

>> No.5183820

Haven't found a single one that isn't shit

>> No.5183834

>>5183820
sounds like you need to check out >>5183765

>> No.5183840

Good if they're fun or well designed.

Parallel Words though, is neither.

>> No.5183851

The best ones are ones that are simple, like the Richter to Trevor hack for Dracula X or play as Zero in MMX3

>> No.5183874

>>5183651
what a sad cautious tale that game was

>> No.5183881

>>5183731
I saw gameplay of one called Zelda's Birthday years ago. It looked alright, no new dungeons or anything like that, just some edited text and a couple new event flags.

>> No.5183884

>>5183660
>star road better than sm64
nah

>> No.5183906

>>5183731
Yes, and some are even quite good https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sotmg3OiVfI

>> No.5183914

>>5183851
>Richter to Trevor hack for Dracula X
Sprite replacement always feels too simple to me. I feel like you need something affecting gameplay for the hack to be worth it, even if you're just cleaning up gameplay issues from the original (e.g. the Playable Zero hack you mentioned).

>> No.5183929

>>5183765
Holy shit I quit ROM hacking earlier this month after 10 years and already my biggest character is given a golf game. Brings a joyous tear to my eye.

>> No.5183931

>>5183669

>like at least 50% of hacks are just skinhead Super Mario Bros or something.

Is this real? Are there really skinhead super mario bros hacks? I'd really love to see this nonsense if it exists. I've seen plenty of articles talking about these kinds of games, but haven't actually seen any of them.

>> No.5183937

>>5183931
Super Nazi Penis Cartel Freedom Fighters 3 is a timeless classic.

>> No.5183945

>>5183931
Go to Baddesthacks.net. its an entire website dedicated to shitty rom hacks.

>> No.5183949

>>5183931
boi, where were you in the early 2000s?

http://www.i-mockery.com/romhacks/

>> No.5183950

>>5183651
I think they're glorious

>> No.5183968

>>5183651
>>5183669
Yeah this. Mega Man Unlimited is the best fan game I'e ever played

>> No.5184309

>>5183651
They're fine if done right. I know people hate on how hard some of them can be, but I think hacks of stuff like Super Metroid, Zelda and SMW are meant to be for "hardcore" players who want more of a challenge than the original. You don't expect studio-quality plots, gameplay or that many changes to begin with so the difficulty boost is how you get to enjoy the hack. I've played FFVI over and over again but BNW really made me relive the game again instead of mindlessly beating it like it's on the back of my hand. Even Parallel Worlds I see as the same deal.

I'm not saying there aren't totally unbalanced, broken, cheap ass difficulty hacks though.

>> No.5184328

>>5183653
This. There are some cool ideas, but it's a great example of why you need quality assurance in any of your games. Even though the dev might think it's fun, A lot of these games are just not fun on the consumer side and need to be readjusted to find a balance.

>> No.5184332

>>5183929
Seriously? RIP dick Nazis

>> No.5184362

never been into romhacks, but i do like the ones that alter shitty features of old games like the unworked designs patches

>> No.5184387
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sjj6Nm17OZE

http://www.romhacking.net/hacks/3638/

>> No.5184426
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5184426

They can be pretty fun if done right. They add replayability to games you love and have the potential to fix broken things or annoyances. Wonder Boy with ram save hack is nice for not messing with passwords.

>> No.5184704
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Most of them are shit, but there some gems that really stand out if you can find them. I recently played Hyper Metroid, which was released in 2015. Damn good, felt like a whole new experience without bullshit. It's not perfect, doesn't flow the same was as SM, but i would recommend.

>> No.5184881

playing evil overlord ver of psII and it is fucking brutal. Grinding for days just to survive.

>> No.5185013

I like them.

However I think that hackers tend to focus a bit too much on changing superficial assets, like gee now there are characters with new faces, or here's a purple sword rather than focusing on level/map/gameplay design.

like DESU I tend to like the hacks more that use 100% vanilla assets but focus on creating new and interesting scenarios with them.

>> No.5185123

>>5183651
There are plenty of hacks out there that I consider flat out better than the original game.

>> No.5185135

>>5185123
Such as?

>> No.5185246

>>5185135
The Shadowrun race hacks. It cuts out the early grind and gives you more customization at the same time.

>> No.5185309

By and large shit. Only good ones are translations, bugfixes, and ones that restore content.

>> No.5185318

>>5185246

Oh god pls link.

>> No.5185330

>>5183651
They ruined my fucking life

>> No.5185521
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5185521

Why does it seem like Sonic(of all things) gets all the good rom hacks?

Everything else just seems to be LOL LOOK HOW HARD I MADE IT LE KAIZO EPIC

>> No.5185598

I enjoy quality-of-life hacks a lot. One's that improve the interface or controls without messing with the general design.

>> No.5185770

>>5183874
>>5183840

What's wrong with Parrallel Worlds? I had an old build that was pre-guardhouse nerf and the only problem I had with it was overworld bomb jumping for keys.

>> No.5186021

>>5183653
> Too many romhackers have a boner for making their projects as difficult as they can possibly make them.

SMW Kaizo rom hacks...

>> No.5186056

There are plenty of hacks which make MM games better. Lag reduction patches, bug fixes, etc

For MM3, there is "Improvement" which gets rid of all lag, fixes a lot of glitches, and also has some other additions/changes which you may or may not like
http://www.romhacking.net/hacks/992/

For Rockman 4 (doesn't work with MM4), lag reduction patch, there are two patches, one "standard" lag reduction, and another one which also changes other things like being able to switch weapons on the fly (but also gets rid of the autoscroll sections...)
http://www.geocities.jp/borokobo/zip/Rock4Optimization_v3.zip

For Rockman 5, but these ones also works with MM5. Lag reduction patch:
http://www.himaq5.xyz/rock5easily/archive/rock5_lite.zip
Lets you switch weapons on the fly (select, down+select, select+start):
http://www.himaq5.xyz/rock5easily/archive/rock5_weaponselect.zip

Rockman 6 (does not work with MM6):
Lag reduction patch but also speeds up the process of many things, like loading times, scrolling when entering a room, etc:
http://www.geocities.jp/borokobo/zip/Rock6Optimization101.zip
Fixed sliding. In the original MM6, and unlike other MM games, you couldn't jump during a slide, plus there is a small delay, wait time, at the end of a slide. This fixes both:
http://www.geocities.jp/borokobo/zip/Rock6FixSlide2.zip
With both patches applied, RM6 becomes 100% more fun.

Mega Man X3: fully playable Zero, but also makes the game better if you play as X, by getting rid of the delay when firing several charge shots, and by making level progression less linear (you can use a battle armor as soon as you have the tanks for it, and Zero can charge subweapons even without the upgrade, thus letting you open up levels in a less linear way):
http://www.romhacking.net/hacks/888/

>> No.5186734

Whenever I play a hack with a lot of sprites onscreen at once snes9x slows to a crawl. Is there a fix for this?

>> No.5189004

>>5183651
This right here >>5183653

I sunk a few hours into Parallel Worlds but it is just hard for the sake of being hard. You find next to no hearts and regular enemies wreck you immediately. I made it to the dark world lava area and then said fuck this.

There are lots of great romhacks that are well done. I played 3 Super Mario World hacks that felt like actual properly made sequels or different versions and they had good puzzles that weren't kaizo difficulty.

There are a couple well done Super Metroid hacks but they are on the more difficult side and require bomb jumping and wall climbing for progression, not just secrets.

>> No.5189017

>>5183651
What are the best LttP romhacks?

>> No.5190997

>>5189017
Have you tried doing a randomizer?

I have heard that Hyrule Tail is a good but cringy hack. Apparantly the gameplay is solid but the writing is all garbage and unfunny.

>> No.5191934

>>5185123
>simons quest redacted

>> No.5191936

>>5185330
Please go on.