/vr/ - Retro Games

[Anonymous No.5183459]

Don't mind me, just being the only good non-Nintendo Castlevania game.

[Anonymous No.5183464]

Lament of Innocence is legitimately my favorite Castlevania. You may now pepper me with your slurs about my shit taste.

[Anonymous No.5183471]

>>5183459
> rondo is bad now
ok

[Anonymous No.5183475]

>>5183459
>Rondo
>SotN
>Bloodlines

>>5183464
I will unironicall defend the N64 and PS2 Castlekino games and die on that hill.

[Anonymous No.5183512]

>>5183464
what goes through the artist's mind when she draws these pretty boys

[Anonymous No.5183518]

>>5183512
Say what you will, Leon is the best dressed Belmont.

[Anonymous No.5183683]

>>5183464
I love you unironically.

[Anonymous No.5183984]

Is chronicles the new meme game?

[Anonymous No.5184061]

>>5183984
Yes. Hipsters who are tired of hearing about how easy Rondo is and were at first excited for its re-releases are now disgusted it got them at all and that normalfags know all about it, so they've since attached themselves to a late-release PS1 remake of a X68000 game that normalfags won't possibly give a shit about for the next ten years at least. In that time, expect the meme to go strong.

[Anonymous No.5184065]

>>5183464
I like both this and Curse of Darkness, even if the latter felt emptier than the first one.
The way I look at it is that LoI and CoD are stiffer DMC games set in the Castlevania universe.
Also: not retro.

[Anonymous No.5184068]

>>5184061
X68k was my favorite before the remake was even revealed. Just because a game is good does not make it a meme.

[Anonymous No.5184072]

>>5184068

Sure it was.

[Anonymous No.5184073]

>>5184068
>b-but I liked it before it was cool, I'm not a hipster

[Anonymous No.5184086]

>>5184072
>>5184073
Believe it or not, some people become interested in older games from actively doing research on them instead of hearing about them for the first time from some remake and getting it for their latest current gen console as if the extent of their scope doesn't go beyond what's current and mainstream.

[Anonymous No.5184106]

>>5184072
>>5184073
Go ahead, make the assumption that people like games based off of some knee-jerk reaction to what's popular at the time. I wasn't excited about the remake because believe it or not, I've already played these games years prior instead of hearing about them for the first time from a remake. It's sad that /vr/ has stooped so low that the idea of researching games independent of current trends to find something that you like must be impossible.

[Anonymous No.5184195]

>>5183459
Rondo and sotn exists you imbecile

[Anonymous No.5184209]

>>5183459
Literally the only classicvania I never played.

[Anonymous No.5184262]

Super Castlevania had the second best soundtrack of the series, with SotN being the first.

[Anonymous No.5184498]

>>5183459
BEST VAMPIRE KILLER VERSION

[Anonymous No.5184516]

>/vr/ has gotten so fucking contrarian that they choose the shittiest classic Castlevania as their favorite
Congratulations

[Anonymous No.5184517]

>>5184516
Nobody calls The Adventure their favorite.

[Anonymous No.5184521]

>>5183464
Your taste sucks bro

[Anonymous No.5184568]

>>5183459
This is such a nonsensical opinion. This game sucks and this board only likes it to be contrarian.

[Anonymous No.5184570]

>>5184106
>Go ahead, make the assumption that people like games based off of some knee-jerk reaction to what's popular at the time.
I will, because that's exactly what's happening in Chronicles' case.

[Anonymous No.5184578]

>>5184061
It’s sad but it’s true. I’ve noticed a sharp increase in conversation about the x68000 version recently. It’s not even that fucking good.

[Anonymous No.5184606]

>>5184517
Gameboy games aren't real games, anon

[Anonymous No.5184623]

While it is weird that its getting so much attention here lately, I've always liked it a lot so I'm happy about it

[Anonymous No.5184686]

>>5184578
There's a dedicated shitposter here that hates IV and loves X68000. He has made countless threads about that game. I guess he got bored of the recent Rondo vs. Symphony shitposting and decided to go back his old ways.

[Anonymous No.5184726]

>ywn have as good of taste in Castlevania games as Australia-kun

[Anonymous No.5184730]

>>5184726

[Anonymous No.5184856]

>>5184606
Except for Wario Lands. Those have aged surprisingly well.

[Anonymous No.5184943]

>>5184623
me too, but alas now we are considered memers

[Anonymous No.5184953]

>>5184943
I'll say this much. I'm very happy that Smash isn't going with this Simon design.

[Anonymous No.5185112]

IV=X68K>Bloodlines>Dracula X SNES>Rondo

[Anonymous No.5185213]

>>5185112
CV3> CV1> Rondo> IV> Dracula X> X6800> Bloodlines> CV2

[Anonymous No.5185216]

>>5183683
:)
>>5184521
:(

[Anonymous No.5185219]

>>5184061
Holy run on sentence, Batman!

[Anonymous No.5185265]

>>5184953
Nintoddlers can't handle the bishy?

[Anonymous No.5185430]

>>5185265
The bishi is the least of it. Outside of CV: Judgement, that's simply the worst Belmont design.

[Anonymous No.5185604]

>>5185219
Holy ad hominem, No-argument-man

[Anonymous No.5185616]

>>5185265
Fuck outta here, fujoshit

[Anonymous No.5185663]

>>5185430
I hate Kojima's Trevor design more than her Simon, though that is bad too.

[Anonymous No.5185751]

If you want to be contrarian at least say the best one is Dracula X for the SNES, at least that game is good.

[Anonymous No.5185769]

>>5183512
"Muh feminine dick"

[Anonymous No.5185863]

People on here complain about SCV4 being too easy and champion this despite this also being piss easy.

[Anonymous No.5185906]

>>5185751
>Dracula X for the SNES, at least that game is good.
This guy gets it. I think Dracula X might be my favorite Castlevania if it weren't for how infuriating Dracula can be. Like he's the final boss and should be harder than everything else in the game but goddamn, someone got carried away. I've been knocked off platforms by his second form so many times it's not funny.

[Anonymous No.5185971]

Wow this game have gone up in price. I remember I bought this from a friend for 10€ in 2010 or 2011.

[Anonymous No.5186186]

>>5185663
Trevor is alright. Not great, but alright. At least he's fully clothed. Though his Netflix series design blows it out of the water.

[Anonymous No.5186368]

>>5183464
Not retro, but I almost agree with you. Leon is definitely my favorite Belmont and the lore/story of LoI is my favorite in the series.

[Anonymous No.5186467]

>>5185863
Post your 6-loop no-continues clear.

[Anonymous No.5186473]

>>5183459

[Anonymous No.5186806]

>>5185265
Uh, Smash is full of bishies, starting with Link.
Thank god they went for classic Simon though. Based Sakurai.

[Anonymous No.5186940]

>>5186368
Seems like a pretty rave review. Why only "almost" agree?

[Anonymous No.5186987]

>>5185430
>>5185663
Shut up nerds.

[Anonymous No.5186992]

>>5186987
>mfw I used to dress like an edgelord with a trenchcoat and had bishie hair in the early 00s
Shit was rad back then and it's actually so corny. Love it.
Simon is classic, never gets old.

[Anonymous No.5187153]

>>5186987
Only because Konami insisted to Kojima that she stay with Simon's "canon" design and not try to embellish it.

[Anonymous No.5187174]

>>5183464
>Lament of Innocence is legitimately my favorite Castlevania.
Nothing bad with that, LoI has great characters, music and story, combat isn't half bad either and I like all the little nostalgia touches here and there, it's my favorite 3DVania.

[Anonymous No.5187210]

>>5185430
<- I would fuck this man

[Anonymous No.5187213]

>>5187210
Yeah Dracula is a good lay.

[Anonymous No.5187381]

>>5185971
Not worth that price either. Only reason it goes for so much is that it was released so late in PS1 life cycle and barely anyone bought it.
My sister got me a copy as a birthday present when I was like 12. Wish I still had it, it's a decent game but not worth rape prices.

[Anonymous No.5188386]

All the classicvanias are good in their own ways (even 2).

However 3 is still my personal favorite

[Anonymous No.5188420]

>>5183464
>this passes for a non shitpost receiving unironic praise on /vr/ now
casual hour, pathetic

[Anonymous No.5189027]

>>5188420
This is a low-quality post.

[Anonymous No.5189312]

>>5188386

[Anonymous No.5189859]

>>5186467
I did loops 2 and 3 on a single continue, the only hard parts are the rising water in stage 2 (which is piss easy with the stopwatch) and that one jump in the last stage where you have to be right on the edge of the platform.

[Anonymous No.5190019]

>>5186940
Superficial elements can only carry a game so far.

[Anonymous No.5191695]

>>5185906
Duck and the knockback won't happen.

[Anonymous No.5191767]

>>5191695
Yeah, but duck + whip = knockback in full fucking force.
Plus there's the jumping to another platform when he gets above you, and adjusting yourself on the platform you land on just right so if you do happen to get knocked back you won't fall off, so staying ducked at all times isn't viable at all times.
Then there's the damage his fireballs can do if you get out of rhythm with your axe throws.
Or the damage the lightning attack can do if you find yourself on the same elevation or higher than he is, so if you do manage not to get knocked back he can still just straight up merc you.
I've beaten the game like 5 times now but it's a hard fight man.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[Anonymous No.5192593]

>>5184726
>Haunted Castle
How is this game?

[Anonymous No.5192620]

>>5185906
>I think Dracula X might be my favorite Castlevania if it weren't for how infuriating Dracula can be.
Eh, once you get the hang of it it's one of the easiest Dracula fights in the series.

[Anonymous No.5192634]

>>5192593
The worst.
Makes The Adventure looks like Castlevania III.

[Anonymous No.5192639]

>>5192620
>once you get the hang of it it's one of the easiest Dracula fights in the series.
That's a lie. I mean, you can easily enough manage it with the axe once you learn it, but CV1, SCVIV, Rondo and Bloodlines all have easier Dracula fights.

[Anonymous No.5192641]

Have you heard of Castlevania: Symphony of the Night? There's a version of it on the PSX PlayStation 1, perhaps you'd enjoy it. It's like Castlevania, but you get more weapons than just the whip, and there are fun rpg elements added to it. Lots of exploration which really improves the fun in a Castlevania.

[Anonymous No.5192663]

>>5183459
Here’s the correct picture

[Anonymous No.5192696]

>like the arranged version's music and effects
>hate Simon's gay sprite

Reeee

[Anonymous No.5192772]

>>5192696
I think you can choose which soundtrack to use by holding L1 and R1 when starting the game. Something like that.

[Anonymous No.5193495]

>>5192639
The platforms set up the perfect Axe throwing distance for you. Height differences makes it way easier to duck/jump his projectiles. 2nd phase you just have to dodge like 2 attacks and then he's dead. Shortest and easiest. Learn to not jump to your death.

[Anonymous No.5193565]

>>5193495
But the other Dracula fights are still easier
>Learn to not jump to your death.
I'm literally not you faggot

[Anonymous No.5193608]

>>5186806
Conan Simon best Simon.

[Anonymous No.5194279]

>>5193565
>avoid doing 1 big mistake vs avoiding a long series of tiny mistakes
¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[Anonymous No.5194398]

>>5193608
I like armored Simon best and feel Christopher should be the barbarian one

[Anonymous No.5194403]

>>5192593
feels like a Chinese knock off. Hardly fits in the Cv brand at all

[Anonymous No.5194551]

I picked this game up from Electronic Boutique back in the day. I took the bus to the mall several towns over with $50 in my pocket, and no idea what was available to purchase. I stumbled across this, and Megaman X6, which were $20 each. This was the year 2000 I believe. I got a lot of enjoyment out of it. It was a visual and audio upgrade compared to CV4, and yet a step down in the gameplay department. Anyone else have a normal fucking experience with this game that doesn't amount to shitting on it, or calling those that like it hipsters? I just wanted to play video games...

[Anonymous No.5194781]

>>5194403
And yet later games reuse its music constantly.

[Anonymous No.5194804]

>>5194403
The Arrange version feels kind of cheap, but the original is stellar.

[Anonymous No.5194965]

Why do Castlevania fans always have so many hot takes? Can we just enjoy the world without needing street cred?

[Anonymous No.5194997]

>>5194804
The post-chain was about Haunted Castle, not Chronicles.

[Anonymous No.5195006]

>>5194997
Just kill me now

[Anonymous No.5195027]

>>5194781
No one complained about the music.
That's like saying II isn't a bad game because it got Bloody Tears.

[Anonymous No.5195115]

>>5192696
Can I play the original version with barbarian Simon in Chronicles?

[Anonymous No.5195738]

>>5195115
Yes, though it'll still have the Arrange version's view-window and hitboxes.

[Anonymous No.5196710]

>>5185863
At least X68K's bosses aren't all completely braindead like IV's, and your whip isn't OP as fuck either.

[Anonymous No.5197107]

Shh.. John Morris can hear you all talking, we don’t want to upset him with this heresy.

[Anonymous No.5197123]

>>5197107
More like John BOREis

[Anonymous No.5197163]

>>5183464
Lament of Innocence, Harmony of Dissonance, and Bloodlines are the best Castlevanias.

Also the first Casltevania. That one is really good.

[Anonymous No.5197170]

>>5196710

The Shewolf bro!

Medusa was no joke either

[Anonymous No.5197184]

>>5197163
>Harmony of Dissonance
Why do you think so?

[Anonymous No.5197217]

>>5183464
FAG

[Anonymous No.5197219]

>>5196710
>At least X68K's bosses aren't all completely braindead like IV's
To be QUITE honest, most Castlevania bosses are brain dead, just look at CV1. CV games are about the level design, not so much the bosses.
Still, I love X68K, but
>HP refill herb
What the fuck.

[Anonymous No.5197236]

not better than this >>5183459

[Anonymous No.5197246]

>>5197236
As if metroidvanias weren't enough, we got GoWvanias too.

[Anonymous No.5197249]

>>5196710
The only one that requires effort to beat is the Wolf-Woman.

[Anonymous No.5197258]

>>5183459
You mean the X68000 original, right?

[Anonymous No.5197328]

>>5194398
For Chris, I go by the comic which makes.him a bit more of a gentleman

[Anonymous No.5197461]

>>5183512
>she

[Anonymous No.5197481]

>>5194551
I bought it off psn on ps3 for $5-$10. I enjoyed it, one of the only retro cv games i actually beat. I felt like a fucking genius when I thought to myself 'if I kneel in front of this alter I bet it'll give me health' and I was right.

[Anonymous No.5198203]

>>5195027
CVII has issues, but Haunted Castle is borderline unplayable garbage.

[Anonymous No.5198494]

>>5198203
Only if you're playing the version where things kill you in 2 hits.

[Anonymous No.5198516]

>>5198494
>things now kill you in 3 hits
Wow, what an improvement.

[Anonymous No.5198606]

>>5198494
Which only delays the inevitable since the game is still mechanically rigged to suck your quarters down fast.

[Anonymous No.5198609]

>>5198606
Not really, it's possible to 1cc the game when you git gud. Also only takes like 15 minutes.

[Anonymous No.5199485]

>>5197236
Fuck you.

[Anonymous No.5200302]

>>5198609
Good for you. Still competes with The Adventure for the shittiest CV game, though.

[Anonymous No.5200367]

>>5189312
WOW

[Anonymous No.5200498]

[Anonymous No.5200518]

>>5183464
You and OP should be forced to 69 each other in public while you get tarred and feathered for your shit tastes.

[Anonymous No.5201002]

>>5200498
I want to like this game but my autism is preventing me from it because it can't run in 240p and it's way blurrier looking than even the oldest of Castlevania games. It looks... OK at 480p but it's no replacement.

[Anonymous No.5201189]

>>5197481
Wait, what? Fuck me, I never knew about this lol

[Anonymous No.5201489]

>>5201002
It a retro-styled game but it's not actually old. Why would it run at 240p?

[Anonymous No.5201496]

>>5201489
I'm just saying the option should be there. It's there for the virtual console Castlevania games and they still look great. This one doesn't. Besides, I'm not gonna do something disgusting like play Castlevania on an HDTV.

[Anonymous No.5203815]

>>5185863
>Chronicles
>Piss Easy

How? It uses Rondo's "five hits and dead" balance on Normal Mode for starters, and it still features the ruthless platforming of the other Classicvanias. On the X68000 version/mode it goes with the classic "four hits and dead" and starts that as early as Stage 4. Furthermore, its loops are much harder than Chronicles' Hard Mode and increases on each loop.

[Anonymous No.5203843]

>>5200518
Joke's on you. I'm a gay exhibitionist who's into wet & messy play.

[Anonymous No.5204518]

>>5203815
Disregard him anon. Most of the faggots posting shit about how any given Castlevania is easy have completely forgotten what it was like to play through these games for the first time without speedrun videos and walkthroughs being a thing, or because they've played them too much.

[Anonymous No.5206758]

>>5197219
>To be QUITE honest, most Castlevania bosses are brain dead, just look at CV1. CV games are about the level design, not so much the bosses.

I half-agree with this. The first bat boss can occasionally bait out attempts to jump and whip it if you're standing on the ledges. That thing seems to have been programmed with at least some understanding of feints and running down the clock. It's too bad it doesn't use its fireball attack nearly enough. Medusa is a pretty simple boss, but occasionally she can float high and make jumping over her on the right side of the screen annoying. The Mummies are indeed super simple, and Frankenstein's Monster is also simple to an extent -- occasionally he'll have the wits to keep advancing while Igor's up to his bullshit.

The second half of the game is where the bosses with substance are, and it's more like 2.5 since Igor is the hard carry for Frankenstein's Monster.

[Anonymous No.5206782]

Am I the only one that sees waisted potential? How could Konami screw this series so harshly?

[Anonymous No.5206802]

>>5187210
Look at his muscles... he would fuck you.

[Anonymous No.5207005]

>>5206782
>waisted
You have a point, though it's not surprising. Compared to Konami's other efforts, Castlevania at least made it out relatively unscathed. I would love to see a new, innovative entry, but given the state of Konami, it ain't happening.

[Anonymous No.5207442]

If we ever get another Castlevania it'd just be another SotN clone.

[Anonymous No.5207796]

>>5207442
Someone missed Bloodstained: Curse of the Moon

[Anonymous No.5208446]

>>5207796
>we get a retro styled Classicvania
>it's pretty good
>honeymoon phase wears off
>it's only OK

[Anonymous No.5209224]

>>5204518
I first played Chronicles last month on an X68000 emulator (use XM6 Type G btw) and aside from a couple of tricky moments, it's really not hard at all. My point wasn't to shit on the game, my point was to make fun of all the contrarians shitting on CV4 who praise this game like it's the second coming of Jesus because "muh difficulty" despite the fact that neither are really that tough. Both are very good games worth playing.

[Anonymous No.5210958]

reminder red haired simon is

C A N O N
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[Anonymous No.5211393]

>>5208446
Hey, exactly like the NES castlevanias!

[Anonymous No.5211497]

>>5210958
It's too late. He's in his rightful barbarian look n Smash, thus solidifying that as Simon's look for an entire new generation of gamers.

[Anonymous No.5211534]

>>5211393
Fuck off retard

[Anonymous No.5212196]

I just tried the original version on emullator and... Did I do something wrong? I blazed through the game in one continue, barely taking any damage. Is there an easy mode, or was my copy hacked? I refuse to believe that the difficulty thing was an elaborate prank and that the game is actually easier than Belmond's Revenge.

[Anonymous No.5212201]

>>5211497
i appreciate REAL simon

[Anonymous No.5212203]

>>5212196
There's no good dumps of the X68K rom, you probably got a version where enemies don't do as much damage as they're supposed to.

[Anonymous No.5212209]

>>5212203
That's what I suspected.
Goddamit.

[Anonymous No.5212291]

>>5210958
Literally only that way in one version of the remake of a retelling of the first game.

And Judgement..but...ya know

[Anonymous No.5212313]

>>5209224
See
>>5212203

[Anonymous No.5213429]

>>5212203
>>5212313
Oh, well that kind of explains why I found it to be easier than SCV4 then, I doubt I'll ever get to play the REAL version then because both versions are expensive as fuck and the britfag here can't be arsed to set up a US or JP PSN account.

[Anonymous No.5214031]

Reminder Castlevania Adventure 2 is pretty fun

[Anonymous No.5214075]

>>5214031
It has great music.
/upper left castle first

[Anonymous No.5214086]

>>5214031
looks like shit lol

[Anonymous No.5214113]

>>5214086
If we're lucky, people will say the same about your games too soon enough.

[Anonymous No.5214387]

>>5212203
My ROM seems just fine, with all the enemies killing me in four hits like they should.

>>5212291
And Harmony of Despair, sort of. His sprite is 8-bit, but his character portrait is the Chronicles design.

[Anonymous No.5214428]

>>5214387
Do share, this version makes CV4 look brutally hard.

[Anonymous No.5214490]

>>5214428
I think I dug it out of the internet well over 7 years ago. I don't even recall where I found it.

[Anonymous No.5214629]

>>5214031
It's great, very easy though. Well, except for fucking Dracula. When they decide to give him only one form, you know it''s because it's a bullshit fight.

[Anonymous No.5214776]

>>5212203
Alright, I got the disk images on gametronik and this is the real thing (in many ways).
Great game. Is this the one where they started to put all kind of monster girls in Castlevania? They even genderbended the mudmen. I guess one of the designer was a man of culture.

[Anonymous No.5216628]

>>5183471
>weebshit
>unskippable FMV's
>too easy
>dull level design
Yes, it sucks. The definitive version of Rondo is on SNES.

[Anonymous No.5217509]

>>5183459
Hell yeah x68K is fucking grea-
>the only good non-Nintendo Castlevania
kys, the nintendo handheld games are boring, slow, gimmicky trash. Why anyone would want to play SOTN without wing smash or backdash shield canceling is beyond me.
>>5183464
It's honestly baffling how so many people can be so fond of a mediocre at best slog of a game just because they like a character design and because it needlessly explains the origin to a retro series of action platformers.

Here I thought /vr/ would have better taste than /v/'s smash idiots but I guess I was wrong.

[Anonymous No.5217525]

>>5216628
>weebshit
fair complaint, I like the cheesy 80's/90's anime designs but to each his own
>unskippable FMV's
also fair point but you only have to watch them once on a new file, the game lets you go back and select levels manually, and the game has plenty of replayability with the alternate stages, Maria, and rescuable maidens.
>too easy
It's easy but I like it a lot as a speed game. I don't upload speedruns or anything but I find it as replayable as the original and I like backflip whip cancels.
>dull level design
How? Alt stage 2 has an autoscroller, there are minibosses, alternate stages, bosses, and secrets, and each stage introduces you to new enemies. It's not like SNES Dracula X where you'll just see endless axe knights and purple lancers.
>The definitive version of Rondo is on SNES
Ah, you're just fucking retarded.

[Anonymous No.5217725]

>look at CV mods
>ALL of them have fuccboi Simon design

[Anonymous No.5217789]

>>5201189
Yeah near the end the maze level theres a breakable wall that goes to a little church alter and if you squat infront of the alter for a few seconds some item(can't remember what) pops out.

[Anonymous No.5218305]

I've been playing the original a lot lately. It is really difficult but, in a very fair way. There's no traditional difficulty spike like in most classicvanias (like the corridor of death, of Dracula's Curse's stage 9, or even SCIV's platforming), it's just hard in a normal way. It can be pretty annoying to lose 4 health points for touching a random bat though, especially since the damage piles up quite quickly. I understand why they tried to tweak the difficulty in the remake.

[Anonymous No.5218436]

>>5217789
A 1-Up is what appears.