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Is the severely blurred image and unreadable text REALLY worth it for a few fleeting effects like pseudo transparency and color smoothing?

>> No.5181759

hell yeah it is

>> No.5181761
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>>5181759
How can you have this opinion?

>> No.5181768

Absolutely.

>> No.5181804

>>5181756
Blurry text is instant headache for me so

>> No.5181832

>>5181756
No it's not. Raw dithering has its own aesthetic without compromising the rest of the game.

>> No.5181840

So let's say I get a sega genesis.
Should I connect it only with composite?

>> No.5181843

Genesis/Mega Drive has native RGB output. The transparency dither is meant to be seen by the developers.

>> No.5181917

>>5181756
Yes, Mega Drive dithering is ugly as fuck and readability issues like that aren't going to be a problem on a CRT.

>> No.5182326

>>5181756
>>5181761
use s video and get the best of both worlds!

>> No.5182504

>>5181761
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Cec2iAgW1Q

>> No.5182564

>>5181756
>>5181761
the comparison pictures should swap slower goddamnit. wat faggot made these gifs?

>> No.5182572

>>5181761
We all know composite looks like shit. Why bother with gifs?

>> No.5182729

>>5181761
>>5181756
>creates neat gradients/antialiasing/transparency-effects
>rapes letters and lines
sad!

>> No.5183176

>>5181756
I would think a CRT's "Sharpness" setting would help with that, but I haven't used one in years because I despise color bleeding with a passion plus my old one's gotten to the point where the picture is no longer stable.

>> No.5183347

>>5181840
You should aim for RGB.
>>5181756
A decent display won't completely get rid of that dithering via composite either. You'll still be able to see it. You need shaders to completely get rid of it. Composite is a joke.

>> No.5183353

>>5183347
>You should aim for RGB.

Considering how easy it is to mod, might as well do it.

>> No.5183371
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>>5181917
He’s right you know, though I really only feel this way about MD, AND it depends on the TV/display. If the display is really sharp such as pv/bvm, lcd or kv310 then anything above composhite is unbareably garish to me. Even MD rf isn’t terrible if done correctly, pic related related is a ‘82 rf only Mitsu.

>> No.5183389

>>5183371
To add, in addition to a kv-310 I also have a kv-300. The kv-300 still has a good amount of pixel bloom so HQ MD video still looks good, such as with the HD retrovision component cables. The kv-310 has a much “drier” image with very little bloom causing MD dithering to become unbearable.

>> No.5183393

>>5181756
Composite isn't even that bad, you people don't have any experience with this stuff do you?

it looks fine on a CRT

>> No.5183398

>>5181756
Of course not. The only people who actually like composite are underage kids who didn't have to live with it back then.

Man, I'd have killed to have an RGB-capable TV in the '90s. My cousin actually had one (some tiny broadcast monitor with BNC inputs) and I was always jealous, but it was too expensive to get one in a decent size. I did eventually get a TV with S-Video during the N64 and PS1 era, then later one with component for PS2/GameCube (yes, I was one of the few who actually bought the GameCube component cable from the Nintendo web store). It blows my mind that some people actually want to go back to the bad old days of composite when better inputs are so readily available now.

>> No.5183415

>>5183371
>depends on the TV/display. If the display is really sharp such as pv/bvm, lcd or kv310 then anything above composhite is unbareably garish to me.
Depends if there's a comb filter or not for me. Composite on PVMs can look decent enough but it's guaranteed shit on vast majority of LCD displays because of how those sets handle 240p content.