/vr/ - Retro Games

[Anonymous No.5181172]

I checked all the threads and there doesn't seem to be a thread suited to what I want to talk about.
I'd like to buy a used PS2 because I never had one as a kid and because it handles PS1 games as well (I dreamt of having a PS1 even more than the PS2, actually).
Anyway, what should I look out for? I'm not interested in modded consoles because games are dirt cheap anyway. Are there any ways of quickly checking if a console is in good condition? What are the most common problems with used PS2s? Are there wireless controllers for it and if there are are they any good?

[Anonymous No.5181204]

I found an SCPH-90000 at a value village this week for 40 CAD. I did not buy it because those aren't moddable, last I checked.

Unless you're in Ottawa then I don't know if this helps but know there's hope for finding a thrift unit, op.

[Anonymous No.5181209]

>>5181172
Fmcb

[Anonymous No.5181219]

>>5181204
Even then $40 for a ps2 at vv is way too much, that's what you'd pay at a game store so why pay that at a thrift store

[Anonymous No.5181226]

>>5181172
Just get a PS1. They are literally dirt fucking cheap and are less of a headache to maintain than the PS2.

[Anonymous No.5181229]

>>5181219
I don't know if that's what I would have paid at Microplay, but then it would have at least come with accessories.

[Anonymous No.5181232]

>>5181172
>I'm not interested in modded consoles because games are dirt cheap anyway.
That's not entirely true when talking about PS1 games.
>Are there wireless controllers for it and if there are are they any good?
There are third party controllers that are wireless but I've never used one in my life, and I've never seen anyone who ever used one so I couldn't tell you if they are actually any good
>what should I look out for?
If you are planning on playing on a CRT through component or RGB then get a PS2. If that's not available and you are going to play on an HDTV then just get a PS3. It already has wireless controllers and all PS3 models are compatible with PS1 discs, while only the fats are compatible with PS2 discs, however if your dream is playing PS1 that won't be an issue for you.

[Anonymous No.5181235]

>>5181172
Any fat model, adult owned, tested and working, no major signs of damage. Get a Logitech wireless controller for PS2, the black and blue one. You can get a bundle with all the hookups and a controller for around 50 to 60 bucks on eBay. Games are dirt cheap, and combined with the PS1 you have a library of like 5000 games. A fantastic investment for anyone who likes games, have fun.

[Anonymous No.5181260]

>>5181172
I had an officially licensed wireless PS2 controller (called the Katana, apparently).

I hated it. Tried playing God Hand with mine. The thumbsticks would slip all over the place. The buttons felt chunky. I was a young'n but even I noticed the difference in input timing.

[Anonymous No.5181275]

OP I was just like you a year ago.

After a bit of research I settled for an older FAT PS2 because it allowed me to shove a HDD in it and easily soft mod it.
God got mine for 20€ and it came with a controller, memory card and a couple of games I didn't want to get but the guy offered them for free after I already paid.

I had however difficulty finding an official network adapter.

I found one for 25€ together with a compatible HDD so I got it.

I know you said you're not interested in modding it but it's worth considering for those few rate and expensive games you might want to play.

Best of luck to you anon.

[Anonymous No.5181291]

>>5181275
This could have been me too, except I looked over this list here:

http://www.psdevwiki.com/ps3/PS2_Classics_Emulator_Compatibility_List

and when I discovered that every game I wanted to play was perfectly playable on my modded PS3 slim, I lost interest in ever getting my would-be third PS2.

[Anonymous No.5181296]

>>5181291
I'll be honest, I didn't bother looking over the compatibility list.
I got mine mainly to play some games I wanted to play for a long time like Silent Hill, God of war and Resident evil.

I have a ps3 too but last I checked it was umoddable, I don't know if things changed, I'll check later.

[Anonymous No.5181313]

>>5181296
>>I have a ps3 too but last I checked it was umoddable
it's been broken open for several years now. even the ps4 has been hacked.

[Anonymous No.5181423]

>>5181313
I'll have to check and see if my model is compatible, last I checked it wasn't compatible to whatever mods are available or due to firmware.

[Anonymous No.5181425]

>>5181172
NOT RETRO
NOT RETRO
NOT RETRO

[Anonymous No.5181427]

>>5181425
It is if you use it to play ps1 games like I do.

[Anonymous No.5181443]

>>5181172
>Anyway, what should I look out for?
The slim is great since it's so small, quiet, and stays cool. However there are a few compromises you make when you get one over an original style model. Besides modding you can't use the same type of multi-tap that a fat uses and you can't use the System Link feature, which is pretty neat for some games but that's PS2 only.

>Are there any ways of quickly checking if a console is in good condition?
Test some games. The most likely part to break on a PS2 is the laser so it'll be obvious when it doesn't read discs or reads them very slowly. Try out a number of games since some games work better on a worse laser than others do. Try out a couple DVDs too if you really want to.

>What are the most common problems with used PS2s?
The laser, as I said. I also have one with a broken controller port plug guide, though the port works fine with out it. Otherwise most people have never cleaned their PS2s so it'll probably be dirty as hell on the inside.

>Are there wireless controllers for it and if there are are they any good?
Yes, I use the Logitech controller a lot. The shape is kind of awkward but it works well. I also use the Pelican/Gamestop wireless models, but they leave a lot to be desired with their plastic guided analog sticks that wear down so much they feel as loose as hell. The shape of the body is godly though, what with it's tiered shoulder buttons. Now I tend to stick with controller wire extension cords so I can use whatever controller I want at a distance.

[Anonymous No.5181446]

>>5181275
OP anon, listen to this anon. You can now get the "network adapters" on ebay that are just hard drive adapters that take sata connections. They are cheap, like $15 or so. It's honestly worth it to buy a pre modded fat ps2, they are very cheap.

Also, don't discount a modded PS1. you will have to burn games but they work very well, also good for imports.

[Anonymous No.5181447]

>>5181204
I got a 900000 8D model, and it is indeed moddable. They won't get the modded bios menu where you manually select between the apps but if you hold triangle while booting the console you will get straight into the uLaunch and then you can manually start any app that you want. Or assign custom apps to custom gamepad keybinds for quick booting.

Very common myth.

[Anonymous No.5181452]

>>5181443
>Besides modding you can't use the same type of multi-tap that a fat uses

This is true, however you can fix it. There is a video on youtube about it. Basically you just unscrew the male jacks on the multitap, push the plastic tip further outside so that it can reach the male jack in the console and just put some super glue so that it doesn't go back anymore.

[Anonymous No.5181453]

>>5181172
IIRC, anything below 9xxxxx will be able to run free mcboot to play burned games. However, a lot of people prefer the older fat models because you can use the netplay thing and a harddrive to play games that way without needing to burn them to CDs/DVDs.

[Anonymous No.5181467]

>>5181446
I was against buying the cheap adapters because I didn't know how good they work.

As for the modded PS1, I have one as well.
I personally ran into a lot of problems with it, I had to restart the console a lot untill it read my burned discs but after that it was smooth sailing.
I managed to somewhat fix it by adjusting the laser resistance, but it still needs a bit of time untill it reads them.
Then again, maybe I should buy a new laser altogether.

[Anonymous No.5181471]

>>5181172
Dont get a slim, they are garbage, if you get a slim do this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e0Pzp5Q3Ov4

if you get a fat do this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CKNL9PZM11o

[Anonymous No.5181476]

>>5181260
The logitec PS2 controllers are totally great. No sync issues (but the initial sync is a pain) but they are hard to find.

[Anonymous No.5181475]

>>5181471
What's wrong with the slim?
t. slim owner

[Anonymous No.5181479]

>>5181453
I'm using a slim with a raspberry hooked to the ethernet port so I can run .iso from its SMB share using OPL
pretty straightforward to configure and works perfectly without slowdowns, you can download game art with opl manager, it's silent af, loading seems faster than reading from disk (at least I don't find crash wrath of cortex loading times annoying as someone says, didn't measure it but sure it's under 10 sec)
only jak and daxter didn't work out-of-box but you just need to activate compatibility mode like described in ps2-home forum
my experience is 10/10 for now, better than using original discs (my laser is loud and probably scratching them, I sure treat them well)

[Anonymous No.5181492]

>>5181475
I have to replace the laser 7 times in the last 10 years, soldering up a modbo 6.0 was a bitch, no ethernet support so i have to relay on disk, until the raspi 3 solution came up, even then using a fat + ethernet to sd adapter is the fastest way to play games

[Anonymous No.5181548]

The problem with modded ps2, is that some burned games won't run.

I say this because I have a slim ps2 but some burned games don't run such as parappa the rapper 2 and half-life. If somebody knows any other way to run these games (don't tell me the usb way pls), please tell me, i'll be very grateful.

[Anonymous No.5181558]

>>5181548
look up OPL with SMB

[Anonymous No.5181579]

>>5181219
Where I live there's contant tides with used PS2 prices. One month you can get one for $25, and a couple of months later they're $100. Demand rises and falls for them drastically and constantly here.

>>5181172
Make sure it works. That's the obvious. Never under-estimate the ability of some asshole to sell you a busted console.

[Anonymous No.5181584]

>>5181172
Got a PS2 from eBay for $7. Bought a new laser for $12 and had a perfectly functioning unit.

[Anonymous No.5181605]

I have my original PS2 fat, to nly issue is a crack on the corner of the console it got during a move but noticed it's having a hard time reading purple ps2 disks, is this a sign of laser failure?

[Anonymous No.5181663]

>>5181204
They are actually moddable.
Mine came with a Infinity Matrix chip pre-installed and I didn't even know it did when I bought it.

[Anonymous No.5181707]

6th generation consoles aren't /vr/ yet. Wait until 2020

[Anonymous No.5181720]

>>5181707
ps2s play ps1 games

[Anonymous No.5181765]

>>5181471
Based aussie.

[Anonymous No.5181793]

>>5181558
thanks for the help anon

[Anonymous No.5181865]

>>5181425
Go away, hall monitor.

[Anonymous No.5182752]

>>5181447
>Very common myth.
that addon obviously meant "softmoddable" (aka FMCB), which the vast majority of 90000-series ps2 can't do.
thus it's shit and should be avoided.

[Anonymous No.5182807]

>>5181476
These are great and my old one still works. Used controllers are available but I would be hesitant to buy one. While my controller is still technically functional, the rubber pad under the X button has lost its springiness. The X button sticks ever so slightly and no amount of cleaning or lubing helps. The only measure that can be taken is to swap the rubber pad under the button with one of the lesser used buttons, but this isn't a great solution.

[Anonymous No.5183774]

>>5181172
If I can't talk about the GBA, you can't talk about the PS2.

[Anonymous No.5183826]

Can I boot PS games from an HDD? Or should I just emulate PS on my computer/another console?

[Anonymous No.5183859]

>>5183826

The latter, you can't do a whole lot PS on a PS2 in general, just load backup discs if it's hardmodded.

[Anonymous No.5183894]

>>5183859
Yes it's hardmodded (that's why I can boot games from HDD), but honestly I don't even know if the laser works anymore. Will just play them on the PS3 or whatever, then

[Anonymous No.5183905]

>>5183826
You can't boot PS1 games from a PS2 HDD unless you do some janky emulation stuff though POPS. You can still do the swap trick though.

[Anonymous No.5184003]

This is not retro. This is a 6th generation console, out of 8 generations.

[Anonymous No.5184543]

>>5184003
It plays FIFTH GENERATION video games, you dumb fuck.

[Anonymous No.5184602]

>>5184003
PS3 plays PS1 games and it's retro you dummy.

[Anonymous No.5185202]

>>5184543
Great logic, so my xbone is retro!

[Anonymous No.5185234]

>>5181172
Buy a FAT PS2 that has a network/HDD adapter and call it a day. You can install a hard drive, McFreebot and have all the games on both libraries at your disposal. Total cost is like $50 including system, controllers, and memory card.

[Anonymous No.5185259]

I guess I'll piggyback on this thread since a faggot nigger mod deleted my thread asking about a DS3 controller to play RETRO games.

I would like a wired DS3 (official, I hate 3rd party design) controller to emulate ps1 games on my computer but I can't find a wired one on Amazon at all.... so how does the bluetooth stuff work? If I buy a wireless DS9, does it come with a thing that I plug into a usb port on my computer? I'm running mid range early 2017 gaming PC with w10. Can ANYONE give info?

[Anonymous No.5185260]

>>5185259
get a mini usb cable. Now you have a wired controller

[Anonymous No.5185275]

>>5185260
I thought they dont transmit real time information though? A USB cable transfer stuff from my computer to my phone, but I cant plug in a usb cord to a ds3 and play a game??

[Anonymous No.5185282]

>>5181172
PS2 isn't retro, fuck off newfag.

[Anonymous No.5185314]

>>5185282
Yes it is

[Anonymous No.5185321]

>>5185314
Not by the definition of this board:

>This board is for the discussion of classic, or "retro" games. Retro gaming means consoles, computer games, arcade games (including pinball) and any other forms of video games on platforms launched in 1999 and earlier. With the release of the 8th generation of consoles, the Sega Dreamcast will now be considered "retro", though the remainder of the sixth generation (Xbox, PS2, GameCube) will not.

[Anonymous No.5185323]

>>5185314
>>5185321

You see the part where it says PS2 is NOT considered retro, you dumb faggot?

[Anonymous No.5185356]

>>5185323
2000 is still retro you fucking cuck, it is the cut off, you retarded faggot cuck Hillary supporter.

[Anonymous No.5185364]

>>5185202
If you want help on getting it to play those retro games, then yeah. Tell us about your Xbone, shit for brains.

[Anonymous No.5185367]

>>5185356
>With the release of the 8th generation of consoles, the Sega Dreamcast will now be considered "retro", though the remainder of the sixth generation (Xbox, PS2, GameCube) will not.

MODS!!!

[Anonymous No.5185369]

>>5185356
Go back to /pol/, disparaging remarks against homosexuals, cucks, and Hillary are not advertiser friendly nor are they welcome on 4channel.

[Anonymous No.5185693]

>>5185282
Discussing emulation of PS is allowed. That's what this thread is about.

[Anonymous No.5185697]

>>5181443
slims are good but i would avoid the two tone model. Those were the last run and sony started cheaping out with them an you can not fmcb them. also slims can scratch discs if the ribbon cable comes up. it was glued down but most of them have popped up now. something to check if you score a slim

[Anonymous No.5185707]

>>5181172
Sure, you can get away with playing PlayStation games on PS2 but keep in mind that it is pretty soulless compared to the original grey console. If you want to recreate the true retro vibe that us hardcore gamers experienced in the 90s then stick to the original hardware. Emulation is like masturbation compared to sex with a real lady.

[Anonymous No.5185709]

>>5185693
You're the guy that wears an AR15 around the city and shouts at cops about your rights.
Obviously using "ps1 emulation" is a transparent excuse to talk about ps2s, no one is buying your shit newfag

[Anonymous No.5185719]

>>5185709
powerful

[Anonymous No.5185790]

>>5185709
I've been here since before you were born, newfaggot.

[Anonymous No.5186046]

>>5185709
fuck off bootlicker
we talk emulation all the time and nobody (I would hope) is using a 90s PC and Wii threads are never taken down

[Anonymous No.5186090]

>>5185275
why not get a ds4?

[Anonymous No.5186634]

>>5181425
Fuck you fag

[Anonymous No.5186643]

>>5185234
>McFreebot
Got a KEK from me, anon

[Anonymous No.5186665]

The fat ones will last you much longer and you'll probably find them for similar prices to the slim. They're all solid, though, so if you happen upon a great deal for a slim then you're fine. Damage should all be very obvious, just make sure the DVD drive still works, that's the most common point of failure. Have fun with your PS1 games, anon.

[Anonymous No.5186679]

>>5186665
>The fat ones will last you much longer
??? I've never seen a defective slimline PS2 in my life, the fat one on the other hand...

[Anonymous No.5186947]

I thought PS2 wasn't considered retro on this board?

[Anonymous No.5186982]

>>5186947
I'm learning real fast that mods only delete whatever they feel like, regardless of rules. The rules are more of a suggestion to them.
In fact, they'll probably delete this very post and then ban my ass afterwards for calling them out on it. You just watch.

[Anonymous No.5187006]

>>5185367
>>5185323
>>5185282
>>5185321
You people are ruining any chance for this board to become less of the repetitive nonsense it became 4 years ago. Same threads daily in and out. 6th gen can help that.

Only 4channel pretends 6th gen as a whole isn't retro. Even reddit and 9fag are ahead of us here. Shit I bet that resetera is too.

[Anonymous No.5187341]

Call me old school but I only play regular release games on disc, never done anything with backups or bootlegs or HD loaders. Got access to a Free Mcboot memory card, but haven't really fucked around with it in any way. Where to start? For PS1 games only of course.

[Anonymous No.5187508]

>>5187341
if you are going to use an hdloader for ps1 games you may as well just use an emulator because hd loaders use an emulator to play ps1 games
if you want real hardware performance get PSIO

[Anonymous No.5187548]

I don't really feel like this thread is retro.
If it is, then I don't see why I can't make a thread about the newest video cards under the guise that I want to emulate using MAME with them.

[Anonymous No.5187560]

>>5187548
Lol!

[Anonymous No.5187563]

>>5187548
because old cards are what you want that support 15khz

[Anonymous No.5187573]

>>5186982
Moderation is all over the place.
For reference, the day this thread was deleted there was a thread about the GBA hamtaro game up for days later.

[Anonymous No.5187579]

>>5187563
No i prefer to use LCDs for emulation. So i might make a thread about Nvidia gtx 1080 ti's because i want to play mario with one :D

[Anonymous No.5187648]

posting in this thread because I don't see another:

I just set up PCSX2 and I have a 1070/i5 6600K.. can anyone suggest any good games that are expensive/rare? ie rule of rose

games I would never have a chance to play otherwise or legit

favorite ps2 games are MGS3, NBA Street, FFX

[Anonymous No.5187656]

>>5187648
go on ebay and sort by highest price

[Anonymous No.5187665]

>>5187656

yeah, but i want to know which of those are worth playing? heres a few I found that had interesting cover art:

haunting ground:$500
kuan: $429

the other ones i knew or looked dumb

[Anonymous No.5187669]

>>5187665
that's what metaljesus is for

[Anonymous No.5187670]

>>5187665
>>5187648
You're talking about PS2 games which aren't retro.

MODS!!!

Sheesh, the mods on Reddit are much more timely and attentive.

[Anonymous No.5187892]

>>5185234
It's my understanding you can't load ps1 isos from the hdd, or it has bad compatibility

I'd love to be proven wrong, tho

[Anonymous No.5188134]

>>5186665
>They're all solid
except for 50000-series killing its laser

[Anonymous No.5188138]

>>5187670
>Sheesh, the mods on Reddit are much more timely and attentive.
Sounds like you know where to go back to then

[Anonymous No.5188254]

>>5187665
God Hand

[Anonymous No.5188326]

>>5187648
>>5187665
>this lame attempt at proving this thread isn't retro
get a load of this baby. obsessed

[Anonymous No.5188396]

>>5181548
That's odd. I have a modded ps2 and the only burned games that have refused to run are cd games and bad dumps.

Try downloading the games from somewhere else, or just switch to OPL like the other anon suggested (best option imo).

[Anonymous No.5188473]

>>5181204
>>5182752
>>5181447
if the highlighted bit on your scph-9xxxx says 8a or 8b, softmodding (FMCB) works. 8c is hit or miss and depends on your bios.

[Anonymous No.5188516]

>>5181172
>ywn be able to have comfy PS2 threads on /vr/ without also having to allow Halo

[Anonymous No.5188523]

>>5188516
you realize halo is now on par with super mario for nostalgia?

[Anonymous No.5188527]

>>5188523
I'm ready for whatever awaits me in the afterlife.

[Anonymous No.5188531]

>>5181548

Parappa The Rapper 2 straight-up doesn't work burned, my console used to comically eject it shortly after boot as if calling me a dirty pirate. Switch to OPL and use either a hard drive or SMB, since it's a rhythm game I reccomend a hard drive since its lagless. Compatibility is much better in general.

[Anonymous No.5188579]

Pulled my childhood PS2 out of storage to see if my CRT was the problem because my PS1 was putting horrible green lines all over the screen. Checked the bottom and it's a 30003R model. It's kind of janky though and takes ages to read the disk. What are my options?

[Anonymous No.5188607]

>>5188579
I just fixed my mate's 30003 yesterday.

Open it up, take the top off the optical drive (4 small screws) and clean the laser lens, large screw gear and metal rails.

[Anonymous No.5188765]

>>5188531
>since it's a rhythm game I reccomend a hard drive since its lagless
I didn't notice any lag with SMB, seems better than using the original disc

[Anonymous No.5188986]

>>5186665
i love my fat for hd loading but it is most certainly not more reliable than a slim

[Anonymous No.5189005]

>>5181172
It's probably been said already, but this thread is long already. On ebay, there are a lot of ps2s with new lenses bundled with an hdmi adapter and a mcboot memory card (for burned games) for a nice price. I know you aren't looking for mods, the mcboot memory cards boots burned games without any modding. Great for games like rule of rose, kuon or haunting ground.

[Anonymous No.5190096]

>>5189005
>he mcboot memory cards boots burned games without any modding.
no, they're not. that just works with ESR.

but we're way off-topic now anyway.

[Anonymous No.5191858]

PS2 is not retro.

[Anonymous No.5191872]

>>5191858
Keep screaming it until 6th gen is allowed around here. Then keep screaming it more.

[Anonymous No.5191879]

>>5181172
Same here, but interested in getting a SCPH-5001 (FAT) for softmodding. Is there anywhere in the UK where I could get a decent working one for as cheap as 30 to 40 quids? eBay is the last resort honestly. Fuck the prices over there desu.
Bonus points for somewhere that could sell the OG network adapter as well.

[Anonymous No.5191978]

>>5191879
SCPH-5001 is a US PS1. Sure that's what you want?

In any case, try CEX and Cash Converters. Unless you want CiB, all theirs are under 40 docs.

[Anonymous No.5191985]

What do you guys think of Maximo? Is it a good 3D adaptation of Ghost 'n Goblins?

[Anonymous No.5192073]

>>5191985

The first one is really good. The second not so much.

[Anonymous No.5192123]

>>5191985
NOT
RETRO

[Anonymous No.5192186]

>>5192123
>imagine being this autistic about some made up rules.