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[Anonymous No.5175057]

What's /vr/'s take on Resident Evil 3: Nemesis? And how well does it fare against its predecessors?

[Anonymous No.5175081]

>>5175057
I've played 2 and 3, and had a better time with 2, the whole game feels kinda bigger and there's more shit to do.

[Anonymous No.5175085]

>>5175057
I love Resident Evil 3 and will say it's my favorite of the PSX trilogy. Yes, I like it more than Resident Evil 2 and Director's Cut, fight me.
I can see why people dislike it, though, since it's a little more action oriented than its predecessors, but that's what makes it great in my opinion. It hits a good balance between the exploration and puzzle solving of the first two and adds more tension and action with the Nemesis chase sequences, and I like that you are rewarded if you actually take out Nemesis in certain sections.

As a bonus. it features the M1887, my favorite shotgun in all vidya and Jill even cocks it like the Terminator

[Anonymous No.5175091]

>>5175057
Its being remade
>>>/v/439979656

[Anonymous No.5175103]

>>5175057
The best RE games are Outbreak and File 2.

[Anonymous No.5175217]

>>5175057
If REmake did not exist, 3 would be the best game in the series.

[Anonymous No.5175243]

It is the weakest of the good REs, those being 1 2 3 and CV. The 180 and dodge mechanic additions were very good, though the dodge is so hard to pull off it might as well not be there. I understand making that too easy to execute could trivialize the combat, but they went overboard.

Re3 place is the canon is muddy, and the downtown fetch quest took up half of the game.

[Anonymous No.5175329]

IMO, the gameplay machanics are better than 2's with the 180 turn, dodging, and being able to actually walk up stairs instead of having to press action to that. My only gripe is Nemesis not randomly spawning anywhere to keep the tension up since all his spawns are scripted.

[Anonymous No.5175405]

>>5175057
Least favorite of the trilogy, but it's worth playing.

[Anonymous No.5175443]

>>5175057

It is really rushed, with a weak story, and setting. And the gameplay is too action-y. Capcom was rushing out too many RE sequels at this time. That being said, it's a decent enough game. Weaker than RE2 whcih is the best balance of exploration

Also, it really lacks character scenarios. You should have been able to pick either Carlos or Jill at the start. Having one continuous mission with switching over is likely to reduce dev time.

Re2 is the best polished version of the RE formula. RE was the first, and has a lot of originality. RE3 is the weakest of the PS games, but still pretty solid.

[Anonymous No.5175445]

>>5175243
>The 180 and dodge mechanic additions were very good,

180 is essential, and should have been added to 1-2. But dodging is kinda lame. It turns your character into some kind of super ninja. And giving the Dodge button also the aim button makes you dodge randomly instead of it being skill based.

[Anonymous No.5175516]

>>5175217
>REmake
'No'

[Anonymous No.5175541]

>>5175057
RE3 used to be my favorite in the series. I say it stacks up well. It's better than most people give it credit for. I'm really happy Capcom decided to go ahead with more remakes after preorders for RE2 Remake did so well. The Nemesis encounters were better and scarier than the Mr. X parts of RE2, and was always more threatening.

>>5175103
Absolute shit opinion tbqh, but they weren't bad in concept. RE Outbreak 1 and 2 suffered from poor execution. No chat options whatsoever except for the terrible, TERRIBLE pre-written messages. No voice support, no option to even chat using a keyboard. Especially for a game designed around puzzle-solving, streamlining inventories and being in charge of individual tasks. Griefing was ubiquitous, you could collect a key item and then leave the game and it would be lost forever, requiring everyone else to quit and find another server.

Fuck I'm still pissed at how badly Capcom fucked up the Outbreak games. I hope they make another RE Co-op game similar to Outbreak and scrap any plans of having another shooty-shooty COD rip-off.

[Anonymous No.5175552]

>>5175443
I know I repeat myself in every RE thread I post in, but I'll never understand what people liked so much about RE2.

The story I just find silly for the most part, and the underground complex and g-virus shit is way to grand and over the top.

And it is sooo fucking easy.
I hadn't played it since my first playthrough in 98 or 99 when I was a kid when I bought it a couple years ago.
I didn't die fucking once on either of the carracters.
And Mr Generic, or "Mr X" is probably the lamest boss in the trilogy.

This game however, is one I'm actually a bit interested in the remake. I hope they tone down the g-virus stuff and make a hard mode where you actually have to conserve ammo and healing supplies.
And please leave out the Wesker bullshit I know they're gonna shit in there somehow.

Personally i love the simple story of RE3, just escape alive. It's easily my favorite in the series, one of my favorite PS1 games actually.

Nemesis is such a great fucking boss, and the different trigger points and changes to the story they make, gives it very good replay value I think.
Especially on hard where there is way less ammo and health supplies.
On easy I agree it feels much more like a "actiony" game starting with the M-16 with 300 rounds in the fucking mag.

I think it has great atmosphere, music and good varity of puzzles and scenery/sections like the city, park, clocktower and factory.


I agree it feels a little rushed in some places, the carlos dialog in particular. Way less than RE2 in any case.
And yes whould be cool if you could pick carracters to start, with different parts of the city for each.

I also always hated the grave digger monster worm, just silly like much of the RE2 stuff.

I definitely recommend giving it a replay on hard if you haven't tho.

>>5175445
>But dodging is kinda lame
100% agree, the hard mode should never have it atleast. I never learned how to do it on purpose, but I hate it.

[Anonymous No.5175557]

>>5175329
He doesn't spawn randomly, but there are quite a few different Nemesis scenarios depending on where you go first/puzzle you solve first in the city and clocktower.

Also I think there is 4 different scenarios through the game you can get with the dialogs when running into the umbrella mercs.

[Anonymous No.5175564]

>>5175541
Do you know if there has been any word on a RE3 remake?

I'm not sure I actually want it to be honest, I love the original so much and I KNOW they will fuck up the nemesis monster, probably including some shit from those ridiculous movies and forcing wesker in somehow.

[Anonymous No.5175568]

Also I'm gonna dump some fanart I've collected from deviantart and such.

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[Anonymous No.5175625]

>>5175516
'Yes'

[Anonymous No.5175626]

>>5175564
I'm not sure there's been much talk on it since Capcom's announcement. To be honest I wish they would make a new mainline entry and expand the story established in RE7 after RE2 remake. I'm more excited for a new story over retreding the same ground. I would still love to see all of the earlier RE games eventually get remasters though.

[Anonymous No.5175627]

It's an action game.

[Namefag No.5175653]

RE3 is simply the best Resident Evil. The one with the most replay value and the highest skill ceiling. It's a fantastic survival horror, and behind that, a great action game.

People who say it's a "cheap" sequel are the kinds of people who play a game maybe once and only look at the surface. They say it's like "RE2.5", but in reality 3 is more unique than 2, while 2 is but a cheap copy pasting of everything RE1 did while managing to fuck up the scenario system in the process.

>>5175627
all survival horror are action games. it's part of their definition. action-adventure with a horror theme. With no action they'd be adventure-horror games like Uninvented on NES.

[Anonymous No.5175662]

First time playing is really frustrating because of the surprise Nemesis encounters when you're low on stuff. Also the constant grabbing-throwing-grabbing again is really cheap.

6/10.

[Anonymous No.5175665]

>>5175662
grabbing isn't cheap, he only attacks with his dominant hand, ran pass his other side.

[Anonymous No.5175667]

>>5175665
Yeah but if he does grab you, it's really hard to get up and run away.

[Anonymous No.5175672]

>>5175667
Get good

[Anonymous No.5175705]

>>5175672
I beat RE3, doesn't mean I think it's a great game though.

[Anonymous No.5175860]

>>5175705
Beating it doesn't mean you are good though. Running around the mean streets of RC and dodging Nemesis and 1 tapping zambies with the eagle is extra special. If you don't like it though that's fine lol.

[Anonymous No.5175875]

>American release was made "harder" because of American video game rentals

[Anonymous No.5175928]

I think the original trilogy are all as good as eachother, but for different reasons.

RE1 is unforgiving the first playthrough and requires the most caution out of the trilogy. It features the best environment/scenario, and is a very satisfying experience.

RE2 feels bigger than the first game, but is over pretty fast. Its a cakewalk compared to the first game, and less satisying to beat as well.

RE3 is the easiest of the trilogy. Ammo is ridiculously plentiful. If you decide to fight nemesis (non-glitch mode) each time, it becomes the hardest of the trilogy. But only because Resi's tank controls are not designed for dynamic combat. Fighting Nemy is more often than not dependent on how many freeze rounds/herbs you have, over dodging skills. The new dodge mechanic as well is shit. Its still a great game, but ammo is far too plentiful, and the environments are too plentiful. Its nice to see more of raccoon city, but it seems like your taking a tour guide through the city, and most new environments are flown by pretty quickly. (Especially when compared to the mansion of RE1).

RE surivivor is a joke, but worth playing.

RE CV is pretty bad imo.

REmake is godly

DC1/DC2 are on par with RE1,2 and 3.

[Anonymous No.5176050]

>>5175928

No.

[Anonymous No.5176052]

>Enemy gets near
>Try to draw gun
>dodge is mapped to draw gun button
>start matrix dodging like a ninja

Very silly stuff

[Anonymous No.5176054]

>>5176052

There's nothing silly there, those are very doable dodges in real life. Don't forget she's not a civilian, not even a regular cop.

[Anonymous No.5176059]

>>5176052
>matrix dodging
Lol the autistic hyperbole around here is strong today.

[Anonymous No.5176067]

>>5176054
The point was it's silly to have the game force your character to perform a different action (dodge) when you press the button that in all other instances has one specific function (aim)

[Anonymous No.5176068]

>>5176052
Have you maybe tried thinking for a second how the game is designed?

if you're getting a dodge that you did not intended, it means that, if this was RE1/2, you wouldn't have had time to draw your gun and have gotten hit. You wouldn't have shot anyway.
RE3 gives you a chance, and then, you can try to master the dodge system to perform some sick stuff.

[Anonymous No.5176179]

>>5176068
This guy gets it.

[Anonymous No.5176817]

>>5176068
I'm absolute shit at dodging but I don't understand what that other guy's complaint is. Congrats, you just got out of taking some damage. Why complaint.

[Anonymous No.5176934]

>>5175928
>20 years almost since RE3 came out
>plebs still can't understand that handgun/eagle are the best weapons against nemesis

[Anonymous No.5176950]

>>5175057
The first time I played it, I didn't care much for it. With each subsequent playthrough, though, I grew to appreciate it a bit more until it eventually became my favourite game in the PS1 trilogy.

[Anonymous No.5176960]

>>5175928
>The new dodge mechanic as well is shit.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mdJoPZcsZ4s

get good

[Anonymous No.5177234]

>>5175091
so capcom becomes squarenix

[Anonymous No.5177256]

>>5175057
RE3 is the cool actiony Resident Evil from the PS1 era, but while I love that game and especially Mercenaries mode I still think that Dino Crisis 2 is the superior prerendered background action game and I don't think there's any game of the "muh tank controls" genre that is as satisfying.

[Anonymous No.5177261]

>>5177256
Too bad the 2nd half of Dino Crisis 2 is just shitty gimmicky mini games.

[Anonymous No.5177321]

>>5175243
>Re3 place is the canon is muddy,

{{citation needed}}

[Anonymous No.5177698]

>>5175057
It's a great game, but RE2 is better

RE3 is way too short

[Anonymous No.5177845]

so, what happened to RE3 PC fix patch with the high poly stuff?

>>5175564
RE3 wouldn't take too much time to do it, since it uses 90% of RE2's maps and such.

now if Capcom decides to put Patricia or Voss to voice and Mocap jill once again, its Pre-Order on day 1.

[Anonymous No.5177857]

>>5177321

A lot of details contradict RE2.

[Anonymous No.5177862]

>>5177321
>>5177857
RE2 happens between the time when jill is infected and when she wakes up 3 days later and its healed by carlos.
RE3 picks after Leon, Claire and Ada faces the last boss.

[Anonymous No.5177867]

>>5177321

A lot of details contradict RE2.

[Anonymous No.5177868]

>>5177862

The first half of RE3 happens before RE2, and the second happens after. The boarded up rooms in the police station and Marvin's state contradict that.

[Anonymous No.5177871]

>>5177868
i hope that the remake fixes it, Capcom doesn't need to work it that much compared to code Veronica

[Anonymous No.5178031]

>>5177871
Man, all I wanted Code Veronica to be was a side story to the original trilogy.
The gameplay was pretty fucking good, music and atmosphere spot on.

What I didn't want was Wesker runing on walls and doing matrix moves, as he fucking died in RE1. Yeah, fuck the remake.
Or a bitch throwing her blood around and magically lighting it on fire.
Or ANYTHING of all the bullshit they threw in there.

Just cutting all the dialog in that game whould make it 50% better.

Sadly, we'll probably only get more of the Wesker bullshit in the coming remakes.

[Anonymous No.5178187]

>>5175103
fuckthat, RE survior

[Anonymous No.5178281]

>>5178031
>What I didn't want was Wesker runing on walls and doing matrix moves, as he fucking died in RE1. Yeah, fuck the remake.

Wasn't this not in the original Code Veronica release?

[Anonymous No.5178331]

>>5178281
I don't know, I only played the PS2 CV:X version.

I'm gonna get a dreamcast one of these days with all the RE games for my next playthroughs and see how they compare.
That dreamcast hand controller looks fucking horrendous tho.

[Anonymous No.5178403]

im itching to buy the REmake bundle on sale, but idk.

[Anonymous No.5178414]

>>5178403
Don't know what is in the bundle, but REmake HD is fucking great, especially on a good PC.

[Anonymous No.5178437]

>>5178331
>PS2 CV:X version

DC Wesker was grounded and not stupid. In fact, that first Alexa encounter is way, way different in tone.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=anXHwYhh7MU

The ONLY thing I like about the CVX cutscene is the line about Chris being Wesker's best man.

[Anonymous No.5178446]

>>5175057

Gameplay-wise, RE3 is better than 1 or 2, but RE2 is such a better experience. The atmosphere, the set pieces, the story, the characters (except for Jill).

RE3 feels kind of like soulless, where RE2 has its own sense of self.

[Anonymous No.5178806]

>>5178414
REmake+RE0Make+The entire Skinpacks

[Anonymous No.5179012]

>He didn't play RE3 with the Regina costume
kek